And who do you propose we get to do these horrific acts? Its bad enough to kill someone; thats why it appears that you are all in favor of punishing someone for doing it. Why is it ok to have a state sanctioned killer, let alone a state sanctioned torturer?
Someone has to pull the switch. That is already hard enough. Why do you WANT someone in the world both capable of meeting out these excessively horrendous punishments and rewarded for doing so?

As for allowing the victims family to take part in the murder of the murderer (and, for whatever reason you can give, and in every instance, killing another human being is MURDER): that won't give them their loved one back. Nothing will bring them back. Why sully the memory of your loved one by making the last act you take in their name the same act that so brutally ripped them from your life? Take solace in the fact that the person who did this to your family has been punished, and move on with your life as best you can.

The murderer should be executed in a quiet ceremony, attended by the executioner, the attending physician, and the holyman of his choosing. No witnesses. No pomp or circumstance. Let the condemned know that the only people there for him at the end of his miserable life are the person to kill him, the person to make sure he is dead, and the person to usher him to the afterlife.

Sorry, but if a member of my family were to be murdered, and the killer afterwards convicted and sentenced to death, I WOULD NOT want to take part in his execution let alone in torturing him to desth.

Why should the miscreant, who has already taken so much from me, now be granted the right to turn ME into something as dark and as bloody and as corrupt as HE is?

If someone killed a member of my family, I would see to it that they spent their whole life in a concrete prison, contemplating what put them there.

Not get the easy way out. I can only imagine how many long-term prisoners can't wait to die.

By demanding that the murderer feel the terror and pain of his victims, I'm no better than he is?
How ignorant. At least I'm not killing an innocent person. I'm demanding the death of someone who clearly is not only a danger to society, but has demonstrated the loss of their humanity through murder.
If I were suddenly kidnapped tomorrow and tortured to death, I'd want my tormenter to feel the same terror, agony and debasement I felt. Read about the confessions of serial killers who tortured their victims. How their victims cried out for mercy. Some victims reverted to a child-like state, begging for their mommy or daddy to rid them of the pain.
Read about the glee the torturers experienced as they witnessed this. Read about how these monsters tried to think of new, creative means to torture their victim. One woman, after enduring hours of torture while naked, had Windex window cleaner injected into her veins. Not enough to kill her, mind you, but to make her ill. And her tormentor laughed at her agony, before slipping a plastic bag over her head.
The last thing she saw on this Earth was her laughing tormentor.
The man who did these things died in prison an old man, after years of three hot meals a day, a warm bed and plenty of reading material.
What an insult to his victim!
Think about those sickening, revolting hours and days of torture before you accuse ME of being no better than them.

But, as someone corrctly pointed out, the U.S. Constitution would make burning at the stake illegal.
Okay, so I vote firing squad.
Gary Gilmore, who taunted and terrozied his victims before shooting them, was executed in Utah in 1976 by firing squad.
He was tied to a chair. A black hood placed over his head. A target placed over his heart. Five Utah Highway Patrol troopers filed in and took their place in a series of cubicles constructed of plywood. Gilmore could not see their faces. A hole large enough to stick the gun barrel through was all he could see.
At the command, five .30-30 bullets slammed into his heart. Gary sat bolt upright in the chair and then sagged. Death was instantaneous.
I believe that execution by firing squad is probably the quickest method of execution.
Today, six rifle barrels could be controlled by remote control, with laser sights centered on the heart. One man would hit a button and all rifles would fire at once.
I know a great deal about ballistics. I can tell you that the effect of six .30-caliber bullets hitting the heart at once will be devastating. The shock alone will make the person unconscious instantly. He or she will never know what hit him.

I don't view the death penalty as barbaric, not in cases where there is no doubt that the condemned is guilty. Today, much of that doubt is erased, or bolstered, by DNA profiling.
If my torturer/murderer were captured, and the proof of his guilt irrefutable, I would certainly NOT want him living easily the rest of HIS days.
Face it, prisons may not be cakewalks but they're far from uncomfortable anymore. Prisoners get three meals a day, a warm bed, reading material, even an opportunity to get a college degree!
But most of all, my torturer/killer would get to breathe the same air I once breathed.
Why does America have such a high crime rate, as some of you have claimed?
Well, a major factor is the knowledge by criminals that they will not go to a horrible place of imprisonment. They have no fear of jail or prison. They have no fear of the death penalty, either, because it's NEVER EVER carried out immediately.
There are men and women on death row who have been there 20 or more years. Their guilt is a certainty. They have ample time to file dozens and dozens of specious pleas to forestall their punishment.
They laugh at the American Criminal System. It's a game to them. There is no longer any justice to be found in the (broken) system. We who have never committed a crime greater than speeding pay to house, feed and entertain these murderers.
Most people sentenced to death die of old age or have their sentences reduced to Life because the horror of their crimes is dimmed over the years.
I say, send them to Hell. Clean out our death rows. I'd volunteer to do the job myself. A .45-caliber bullet at the base of the skull is quick, certain and inexpensive.
I don't believe in public executions. I say let them die without an audience, without some whiny, weepy excuser of their crime present to offer any comfort.
Opposing the death penalty is only embracing the perpetrators of evil.
Would you likewise oppose the execution of members of the SS who murdered an estimated 12 million people in the death camps?
The death penalty places the highest value on life by telling the murderous, "You wantonly or maliciously take a life, and you'll pay the greatest price that can be exacted."
That places the highest value of life where it belongs --- on the memory of the victim.
I know I'd rest easier if my murderer were executed.
My family and friends would feel better about my death too, knowing that justice was exacted.

I chose the electric chair. Might as well let them fry if we are going to kill them.

im goin with the old school French, the Gullotine (spelt wrong im sure) quick, painless. getting your head cut off, yeah kinda messy, but it would be instantaneous.

Voted 'Other.'
I agree with dp on the guillotine(I also don't know how to spell it...) or just beheading in general.

I think it's consistent with my belief that criminal punishment should be for removing these pieces of trash from our world, to prevent them from harming any more people, rather than to make the criminal suffer.

I won't vote just yet. But I do support the death penalty. Only because if you killed someone, you to desverse to die. That's my own opinion on the death penalty.

i think the firing squad,i don't like needles

My thing is when there is video footage of you doing the crime and your face is clearly visable, that trumps all your appeals. But, once again, let me clarify as I have in so many other posts:

1). Death penalty only if there is unquestionable evidence, (like the video mentioned above).

2). Death penalty only for murder, rape and childmolestation.

3). No technical appeals. If the mistake inthe case wouldn't change the outcome, no appeals. Remember the case where the KKK got an appeal in a murder case because there were no blacks on the jury?

4). Execution should be as soon after the trial as possible and it should be public. No more of this putting murderers to sleep garbage. Personally, I prefer a public hanging. Hanged until DEAD. If it takes all day, I hope you packed the kiddies some snacks.

I think that public hangings in the town square are ideal. Photograghy should be encouraged. Televised hanging should only be allowed in the case of bad weather. That way the townsfolks children don't have to stand in the cold or the rain all day to get the message.

I'm not so sure about making a public event of it...aside from upping the cost, it changes the tone of the death penalty - instead of being a functional method of society defending itself from scum, it turns into some kind of theatrical affair. It cheapens the notion of it...people may very well start wanting the death penalty simply as a means of entertainment; people would want to see someone hanged simply because they wanted to see it, not because of any concept of justice - this attitude may end up colouring the courts as well.

Well seeing is believing and also it puts a good taste of "this is what will happen" into the viewers.

I do get the second half of your post as well. A lot of people have a curious notion about death so they'll watch it just to see it. I know I've done it. Though, I've yet to go out and commit a crime, just me though.

I was always a believer in letting the punnisment fit the crime, but that offcourse cannot apply to certain crimes which 'the worst' and most unforgivable being child molestation and rape.
Premeditated murder/mass murder is also up there without a doubt.
If ever they bring back the mandatory death sentence it should be for those three crimes.

Just my personal opinion.

Edit: Take your pick as for the method used.

The punishment should fit the crime! The two men who murdered my sister and her girl friend are very content with life in prision thanks to our tax money that feeds them cools them in the summer and warms them in the winter and gives them stuff to do when they are bored. I hate the system! Get rid of these murders,child molsters,rapist!!!!

I totallly agree ASOP. Though I don't wish death on anyone-I do hate the thought of them getting off on that fact that they get life in prision and although they will be lacking company of opposite sex, freedom to the world, and the ability to drive then they pretty much have it made.
But I know if someone ever hurt my child or loved one then I'd want them to pay and if I had to pick then it would be gas chamber or electric chair.
I hate that thought but I couldn't watch someone be scott free in prison or possibly set free for hurting my child or loved one.

Starlitkate the thought of some one doing anything bad to my children or my sister and mother sends me over the edge I cant even think about that I get to upset. I do not wish death on anyone who dose not deserve to live child molesters,murders,rapist they should not be able to breath air let alone play cards in jail I mean how many times has anyone heard of a child molester/murder changing his or her life around? Not to many in fact I never heard of one.

Yes, exactly!!

I think anyone who is againest the dealth penalty should have to take these scum bags home with them. You think they can be rehabilated lets see if that can be done let me know how things go from your end and if you find out that these people are dangerous to society well I guess you found out what the previous familys already knew.

There are groups who want Christians to suffer for what past Christians did and non-whites who want whites to suffer because of what whites in the past did, and on and on. Many have this fixed in their heads as being justice and no amount of explaining can reach them that it is not justice at all.

For the state to kill a helpless person who is not a threat to anyone, against their will, is a perverse reinactment of the crime itself. It is not stating that what the criminal did was wrong, just that they did not have the legal right to do it and in the right circumstances with the right people doing it it is perfectly acceptable and actually a good thing to do.

Imprisoned for life they are not a threat and to kill them is to state that their actions were not insane and evil, they only did not receive the proper authorization as to time and location.

Prison is hell. Those who think it is not know very little about them. There is a reason those who go in come out even worse if they are ever released and it did not come from playing cards and watching television. Prison is a nessesary evil until we come up with a better system and we will not come up with that until we try to move forward and not backward.

Perhaps one day mental institutes and prisons will be merged, at least for those who are condemed to spend the rest of their lives in them, where science has better reach and control over what is done and how they respond. Justice is where you try to put things right and human testing on criminals with life sentences is one way that can be done. It can hardly be considered inhumane compared with the death sentence which offers no chance of improving anything for anyone.

Life in prison is only a punishment to people who have something to live for. Many of these scumbags are just as happy as a clam to spend the rest of their life in the joint. They don't have to get up to go to work, they get free food, color tv, little programs to pass the time. When you compare that life to the life they had on the street, it's ike dying and going to heaven.

Sure, they can't leave anytime they want to but, where else would they rather be? You know, the outside world costs money. In the outside world, if you don't want to work, you live under a bridge and you get chilly in the winter. Why would they want to live like that when they can stretch out in a nice, safe, comfy cell and read pornos?

Very sorry to hear about your sister and her girlfriend ASOP.

I agree 101 percent, the system is far too soft on these SOB's and if i had my way there would'nt be one single pedophile, rapist and murderer left in prison, i would have them all turned into human fertilizer in the blink of an eye. The money spent keeping them in prison cost the tax payer ''hundreds of millions'' a year...f***ing unbelieveable, and the majority of these scum are laughing at that same system that put them in prison in the first place.
I don't know about you, but i can think of at least a million far better places to spend that kind of money.

As i posted above yours about ''letting the punishment fit the crime'' and how it can not applyed it to certian crimes.....
Then how would you apply it to the human trash that sexually molesters/rapes children and rapists in general?.....
You can't, so i say turn them into compost for the local parks and gardens, that way at least they contribute something back into society.

Then i clearly stated at the end the post that the death penalty should only apply to the ''three crimes in question'', child molesters/rapists, rapists in general and murders/mass murderers as they are by far the worst and most unforgivable of any other crime

Take care ASOP,

Rebel.


Edit: From the end of the 2002 financial year it cost the tax payer in the US $28,787 a year PER prisoner to keep them incarcerated, keeping mind that that figure was back in 2002.(North Carolina Dept of Corrections)
The way i see it they are looked after a lot better than the unemployed citizens are.

I say if they are not going to bring in the manatory death sentence, place all prisons in private hands, that will ensure the prisons are run so much more sufficiently and also the public has satisfaction a little more knowing that the prisoners pay their dues rather than bludge and loathe of the system presently run by the government.

You need to get out of the Atlanta area and visit the outer areas more often. I see them out working in the hottest and the coldest weather all year long, hard work.

This arguement is one I hear often from the bleeding heart, anti-death penalty camp, and it's one that I simply can't get my head around...

For a start, you're making it sound as though the state is just lining up Joe Public and executing him...the people being executed are the lowest scum in society (well...some of the lowest scum. There are a lot of crimes that aren't punnishable by execution that I think should be). I see no difference between the state hanging a murderer, and someone being attacked by said murderer killing him in self defence (or do you think killing in self defence is wrong too?)

The very fact that these people commit the crimes that they do proves that they're a threat to society. Whether in prison or not, so long as they're alive there's the potential that they might reoffend - whether killing another inmate (can't say I'd shed many tears about that), or a prison guard, or as a worst case scenario they might escape, or some scumbag laywer might win them an appeal.

There are simply people who, frankly, are a danger to society so long as they're breathing. I have no qualms whatsoever about society killing them to defend itself. None whatsoever.

You made a good point Serapina, killing someone in self defence(manslaughter) is no were near the same as premeditated murder and therefore should not be punishable by death, otherwise were do you draw the line.

Well...that wasn't really the point I was making I was simply drawing a comparison. I believe that state executions are society defending itself from people who intend to do it harm.

I dont actually have a problem with the death penalty. If a person is truly guilty of such a crime, then bring it on. THats were the problem comes in. I cant seem to shake the fact that I dont have much faith in the legal system. Only some intelligence and a bit of luck is needed to get away with things. Point: Weve probobly excecuted the innocent before.

The death penalty should really only be reserved for those caught red handed. Timothy McVeigh, Public shooters, ect.

Point: No doubt Xenojjin.

McVeigh caught red handed; There was nothing in that case that indicated that he was caught red handed otherwise it should have been an open and shut. Instead it was dragged thru the courts for years costing the taxpayer millions.
I say the real crims were the lawyers, milking it for all it was worth.

But very few murderers are caught "red handed." Neither John Wayne Gacy (34 victims) nor Ted Bundy (up to 200 victims) were so apprehended.

Theoretically, at least, somebody else could have buried all those bodies under Gacy's house. That was, in fact, Gacy's claim and one of the reason a long trial and extensive appeals (by Gacy's attorneys) became legally neccessary.

Almost no murderers are "caught in the act," or immediately thereafter while still holding the murder weapon, which is what "red-handed" means.

And even being caught with that weapon isn't definitive proof of guilt. I'm sure we've all seen the old motion picture cliche where innocent Mary Jones hears a scream from her boss's office, runs inside to find her/him stabbed to death, pulls out the knife - then the police burst in and immediately arrest Mary for capital murdxer.

While I think it's quite likely that at least a few innocent people probably have been executed...I'd imagine the number is negligable; certainly in recent years at least. The current legal system, in the west at least, is geared in every possibly fashion in favour of the defendant. Getting a conviction is hard enough as is, without overwhelming evidence; juries, by and large, are unwilling to send people to their deaths unless they're absolutely convinced of their guilt.

Bearing in mind, of course, that near constant advanced in forensics technology is making it less and less likely that the wrong person will be convicted.

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While I do support the death penalty as a neccessity, and have both voted and campaigned in its favor, I wish I could be quite so certain of the above as you are.

The execution of an innocent person is a human sacrifice carried out by the State, just as effectively as had it been performed by some ancient priest of Moloch.

I've a little iffy about proposals to execute "all child molesters."

Do we really want to give exactly the same punishment to the monster who rapes, tortures and mutilates a 10-year-old girl and to the pig who sticks his hand inside her swimsuit?

The monster deserves the death penalty and the pig should spend a long time meditating on his crime while staring through chrome steel bars.

But I think I know American juries, and faced with a choice of death or freedom for the pigs of the world (and only that choice), a lot of pigs are going to walk free.

We had a somwwhat comparable case here in my area around 20 years ago - a man was tried for driving drunk and killing six family members in another car.

He was being tried for FIRST DEGREE MURDER."

The jury's only choice was between Guilty and Not Guilty.

So the jury voted Not Guilty.

"We weren't willing to vote for premeditated murder," a jury member said later. "We wanted to put this guy in the slammer for 20 years, but we simply weren't given that choice!"

The community at large didn't blame the jury. It blamed the prosecutor for over-reaching and thus blowing the case.

Thanx Rebel and I agree with you all the way. Bella-Angelique I never said (helpless) people should be killed when you say (helpless) who are you talking about? Looking back at what happened to christians,slaves,jews etc etc. my point of view on that is to teach our children that it was WRONG and to make sure that it dose not happen again in the future. As far as prision being hell what do you think it should be? You think they should have tea partys? Prisions are for BAD PEOPLE its a punishment and I dont think its as bad as you think not according to the one guy who killed my sister he even stated that in a town news paper about 6 yrs ago.

Excuse me, OTR, you make some very valid points. The one thing I will disagree with you on is the 'pig' that sticks his hand inside her swimsuit statement. Speaking from several experiences, and no I was never raped because of my own ingenuity, I know what would have happened if I hadn't fought like a wildcat and left a scar for them to remember me by.

I was ten years old when it first happened and I can tell you right now, sticking his hand down my pants would not have been the end of what he/they would have done to me.

If it's going to be them or me...it's going to be them... to this day....

I say a shot to the forehead while looking them in the eye...or public hanging works, too...

I have a feeling I'm going to get an exceptionally good workout...beating up the body bag today.

By the way...I agree with Sera...and Talon wherever he is.

Boys go through this too.

Numerous times between the ages of 12 and 15 I had adult men whom I knew slightly, "respected" business and political leaders in my home town, approach me on the public streets, grab my penis through my trousers, and announce "Getting to be a real man, aren't you?"

Worse even, they'd often do this is the presence of their wives!

I regarded these incidents as have been in screamingly bad taste, the very worst insults I have ever received (and I'm now 65).

But do I believe that these birds should have been EXECUTED for what they did to me?

Does that really require an answser?

Yes, it requires an answer...

...no...they were playing the male macho card with you in public...not a male gym teacher backing a young girl over his desk or up against the wall in seclusion. Not to mention the science teacher that let you stay after class for extra credit because you loved science....or the history teacher that didn't have anything better to do in his time off than nail 12 year olds.


I would take an old b**** grabbing my tit any day over that.

Those politicans, respected business leaders even local clergy men etc are the worst kind of slimmy scum, using their ''power of influence'' and community trust to literally get away with their crimes, rendering their innocent young victims helpless and emotionally scared for life. In short they destroy life before it even has a chance to start.

On this particular issue, i say f*** the law, once it has been established and the child molester/pedophile identified amongst the community have them ''publicly named and shamed'', in all states even.

Well REBEL, if it's any consolation... the predators that I refered to haven't worked in the school system since 1977. I kept close track of them..

I went with firing squad, if were going to kill you why shouldnt we save money doing it.

It's great to see your out there doing the job Michelle that in reality should also be done if not more so by the proper authorities especially where the pedophile/child molester has been trialed convicted and the eventually re-released back into the public. Most of these sick scum continue to move around from place to place as to deter being caught again.
I think that once a pedophile/child molester has been re-released back into the public domain, they should be named and shamed from in whatever personal dark hole they dwell in. Its the RIGHT of every parent to know were these predators relocate. Countless studies have proven that once re-leased these predators will strike again within the first two to three weeks...eight times out of ten of them anyway, the other three percent either leave the country or pass away(my heart bleeds). The few that leave the country you can bet your life savings that they've moved to a country were the laws on pedophilia are a complete joke and that's putting it mildly.

As for the known, that's KNOWN predators by the community & authorities alike, but not convicted...well thats a bit of a tough one.
Simply because these slime use their *lawful given rights to move about freely among the community without question or restraint, even more so with the ones that work and reside in the higher and more authoritarian parts of society. Thats were i think the laws should be changed.
If it's known by the 'majority' in and around the community ''beyond doubt'' then yea, put these slime bags names and faces on billboards if we have to. Personally i like the idea of putting their names and faces on milk cartons but if not to keep most people from throwing up whenever they have their cereal and coffee in the morning.

*(strange how they seem to know more about it than we ever will.)

edit: far too many spelling errors.

I think this thread is a sad one. I think it's sad how quickly and easily you would all(mostly)wish death upon another for errors made during their life. You see I can look at it from the other side... I sat and stressed for ages that I was going to be sentenced for life, for a murder I didnt commit. Yes I actually killed someone but it was an accident and no-one really believed me or cared because they were too busy trying to get revenge for the police officer who's younger brother had died. So I had the police really wanting to pin as higher charge as they could possibly go for. Now that made me stress lots and I had almost decided to not live if I was to be actually found guilty, because taking a life is the complete opposite of everything I have always believed in deep down(as taking my own). I had many people on the outside wishing death upon me with this eye for an eye attitude.. and they were all so blind... none of them knew what I knew and they were just after this blind revenge because they felt it was 'justice', in a mob mentality.. It was sickening. Anyway basically.. I'm very very happy that I wasnt living somewhere with capital punishment, because I dont think I couldve handled that stress ontop of it all, and if I had had a blind judge, like those police, I might not be here and couldve been murdered legally. It just makes me wonder how many others get charged poorly.. The system is not perfect which is one reason why you shouldnt take life with it. imo

Also.. I think its rare that people can know everything beyond doubt and its more common that people jump to conclusions. From what I've seen anyway.

So I vote none and shame on you all.

Shame on all of us? No I DONT THINK SO. I do not know the details of what you have done and I dont want to know thats some thing you have to live with for the rest of your life and you sound very sorry for what you have done. BUT to say shame on all of us, you dont know what my family has gone thru or any other family that loses a loved one to a monster who takes joy in killing,rapeing,molesting some one. These scum bags im talking about take pleasure in what they do they do it over and over again how can that be considered (oh well a error in life!!!!)

And yet some would take joy in bringing pain to the killer's family in the same way by gloating over an execution. There is no moral high ground to take in that stand. Gutural satisfaction over death of a human being is repulsive and gruesome whether it comes from an action on a street or in a gass chamber.

So we put them to sleep permanently...no pain/no fuss...just put them.
I'll even say a small prayer for them as there souls drift off to meet the
great spirit.

One less pedophile/child molester/rapist/multiple murderer on this planet can only be a good thing in the eyes of common sense and true justice.

Speaking for my self I would not call it (gloating) but I would say thats one less scum bag to deal with. Its not easy for either side so dont make it soud that way.

I'm sorry, but the person who has inflicted that suffering on the killer's family is the killer himself, for commiting whatever act warrented the punishment. You can't possibly be saying the state is responsible for any pain caused to the guilty party's family, whether he's being sent to prison or to execution..."Oh, no, we'll have to let him go. We wouldn't want to cause his family and grief."

I'm afraid I stop caring about what the guilty party thinks, or what his family feels for him, the second he commits a crime. Whether we're talking about a hard crime worthy of execution, or some little pratt spray painting walls...I don't think criminals should be treated the same way as normal, law abiding people. I think if you willfully break the law, then you're scum...you should be considered scum, treated like scum, and refered to as scum.

Do I care of the family of a murderer is upset because their darling boy was sent to the gallows? Nope, not one tiny bit.



I don't know what you did, and I don't really care. I'm not going to offer any conjectures on what your crime may or may not have been, since I don't know you, I don't know the details, and I don't know the evidence...but if you think your SOB story is going to change my stance on the death penalty, you're very mistaken.

Anyway, all you really did was prove my point...you were charged with murder, and by what you wrote you weren't convicted. If you're innocent as your claim, then all well....didn't I earlier say that the law is, in every way, shape and form geared towards getting the defendant off the hook? Getting a conviction without very solid evidence is extremely difficult in this day and age...so I fail to see why your case has anything to do with the issue.

Personally I believe the death penalty should only be used where the evidence is 100% verified against the accused, and no, DNA testing is not 100% accurate.

Also it is possible for the evidence to be rigged by law enforcement, other governmental or indeed any other agencies. This process of evidence collection and verification should also be guaranteed 100% reliable before the death penalty is considered.

However, given the above criteria are met, I voted for lethal injection as it is supposed to be the least brutal/painful/whatever-you-want-to-call-it method of execution. The death penalty should not be used as a form of torture prior to death.

Why support the death penalty. Well I see the death penalty being only used against those who have denied their victims the very right they are having taken away. IMO lifetime incarceration is actually crueller than death. Even if released a long-term prisoner can often never reintegrate with society. They are often left more psychologically damaged than when they went to prison.

In the case of the mentally ill, who have no control over a compulsion then secure hospitalisation may be better, although the real benefit is debatable.

In extream cases of child molestation/rape and murder, to anyone that opposes the death penalty...think again. Once these convicted predators are sent to prison they will endure a long agonising pain worse than death.(it just would'nt be right now would it )
It's no secret how other inmates feel about pedophiles/child molesters and i'll be willing to bet that if given the chance these slimmy predators would have taken the alternative.

*Studies have shown time and time again that these predators have no feeling, remorse or even conscious awareness of their inhuman acts, before during and after, against their young victims.

google search;
*(Psychological profiles of pedophiles child molesters)

There is very rarely a 100% case, Leonardo...but, twenty some odd years for a repeal is far too many in most cases and I don't relish the fact that my taxes are houseing this scum.

If I didn't have to pay for it I would let them suffer in prison.

I look at it kinda like this.. Why do people do the crime? Because of life and the cards they have been dealt. Everyone gets dealt different cards from the dealer and everyone just tries to kinda play at life as best they can. Yes some seem to suck at it and play badly but I dont think thats a reason to call it game over for them. Because we are not the ones who dealt the cards for them to learn how to play. And I dont believe in people not learning how to play alittle better as they grow older. To me that is what life is about... growing and learning, which I think criminals can do if given the right chance.

I dont believe in people being hopeless cases either. They might act it, but how often do people give them hope, so that they may not be hopeless cases?