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PLEASE READ AND DISCUSS!!!!!!! Namaste sheri

Please if you have any storys of anyone who got autism or retarded or a seizure disorder after the shots please share the story.....

OMG

I know...any other thoughts dream????

hard to think of one's privacy

Again agreed!!! Do you beleive it????and why or why not???

Unfortuently nothing new there to me. I've had 2 of my children start their vaccinations both having adverse reactions. My second child went as far as irritation to the brain and was hospitalised. He now has numerous problems.

My youngest was only given certain sections of the vaccines or none at all. She has most definitely been the healthiest child. Thank God I live in Australia we're not forced to immunize here.

your lucky then
it's strange how the governments people blieve them, and yet the government only gives us lies. Is it just for torture or for respect?

Wow Tia, I had problems with my oldest he develoed a seizure disordeer after the DPT shot was on phenobarbital for a year, It gave him learning disabilities also.....

I didn't immunize to much with my 2nd but i was scared not too, I didn't know anything then.....

the third child i didn't at all but I was prepared they tell you can't get your child in school but many states now have a waver but if not they will take your child from you for neglect if that isn't ironic, i'm in a state that has the waver, but you have to ask for it....I know so many autistic kids because of the MMR........I also know peopel who have moved because they were pressured to give shots and they didn't want to...

You are lucky i didn't know that about australia...

this is sort of off topic but deals with a vaccination from hell none the less

you should have seen the shots they gave us when we went to Korea when i was in the Army

was with a gun device that held like 8 needles and they all injected you at once

if you moved during the shot it ripped a big chunk out of your arm

then every year they would march us to the closest base clinic for a flu vaccine, although as much as i trust the gov from the LSD experiments and such, i cant be so sure if flu shots is what we actually got

Did you get sick at all ET , it relates i'm easy........

I'm sorry about your son Sherri, it sounds like both our boys have similar problems now.

All Australia does is say that if an outbreak of the disease happens at school your child may be made to stay home for that period.

The government does offer you financial incentives to vaccinate now, I'm not sure of the amount all I know is my childs health is more important then money.

I do have to get my youngests tetnus/ diptheria updated soon and it'll be a big pain as I'll have to see the doctor to get the special script to try and track down this certain vaccine as most contain whopping cough, all the while having people tell me that the whopping cough won't hurt my child. MMR is one I don't touch at all, the oldest 2 had theirs as a baby but not the followup one. That's only because I did some serious research into all this after their first.

It was interesting they were doing vaccinations at high school (which my daughter did not recieve) and on the information sheet she brought home for once it was included that this vaccine can cause serious effects and even death. Maybe there's been too many reactions to be ignored any longer.

Tia and the same to you and your son, its tragic our govements are so deceitful...


IMO there isn't a tougher subject to have to decide, i literally was sick over this one and very alone , many people don't want to take a chance and NOT vaccinate, or vaccinate and maim your child.. i had the support of my hubby otherwise i don't know that I could of stood as strong as i have,... I found a doctor that supported the non vaccination and read everything he said and told me whta to do about school etc....so may kids have attention span problems or behavioral issues or adhd or something its suspected its all vaccination related....My freinds mother in law begged her not to give the MMR she had two children get autism, my friend listened and often we go together to educate other parents...for me when i started reading on the shot and such i couldn't give them in all good conscience...


the thing is when you research the diseases, why do we give these shots.My 8 year old is quite remarkable he has never been on an antibiotic he is gifted and no behavioral issues or learning diabilities we are also vegan..some of these shots alter your immune system...

As parents we have to start standing up......thankyou for sharing Tia

wait if vaccinations are bad, then what about those metal vacinations?
Like when you get cut from metal?

Ok, if they ask me to take a vaccine, I'm going to say **** that!


I've only had one that I know of. It was for chicken pox. My arm stayed sore for almost a week, lol.

it's usaully for a week. But it said the CIA harrassed him to take them.

Zero the chicken pox is relatively new, i have a story on it, there was a pox outbreak and everyone got it but my son who was not immunized against it lol Actually a breast fed child gets through the colostrum all the things the mother has an immunity too and I had chicken pox as a child...they say the shot lasts 10 years and if an adult gets CP it can be deadly...
Not to mention chicken pox is painless and the benefits are a lifetime immunity , the same with most of the vaccinations...

but this topic is supposed to be about how they screw with you immunity system

metal vaccinations do you mean tetnus? If you cut yourself or something. That is one I do get not just for the kids but for the whole family.

It is a damned if you do and damned if you don't area. I believe no one should be forced to have a vaccination, and all the details should be released about adverse reactions etc.

It's up to the parents to make the decision as they're the ones that will have to live with the consquences whether it be from the needle or from the disease.

I won't do any of them, the tetnus only if needed...I could look it up there is an alternative to every thing such as hepatitus etc( Off the top of my head i forget) What the doctor explained to me is nothing is life threating even if something happened...

Before I had the vaccination I was around CP ALOT and never caught it, lol.

why did you get the shot? Do they have the waver in your state???some states take the children from the parents if they don't immunize...

sounds like someone has a great immune system, same here.

I don't even remember why, lol. It was a while back.

Something similar happened to me.

Recently I discoverd what was one of the root causes of alot of my allergies and fatigue.

When I was a baby, I was immunized with what I believe was the mumps/measels shot. This stressed out my body enormously, as told to me by my mother and i was sick for weeks after. During the winter my skin was so dry it cracked and bled constantly (when i was a baby). Later on in life 2-3 yrs old my parents discovered I had severe allergies to many things.

Currently modern medicine is at a loss on how to explain where allergies come from. Alot of people ascribing it to genetics and as such its a condition you live with for the rest of your life. Quite sad really.

The thing is its possible and quite proabable that immunizations stress the immune system so badly, and the immune system stays stressed because the injection leaves a small aprt of given virus in your body. What happens after is a snowball effect. With each succesive immunization and flue/disease you catch, the immune system slowly gets weakened more and more. And you become more sick with time. Your body becomes so stressed out, it has a a hard time defending itself, and your chance for things like cancer increases.

On another note, A lady I knows has been counter-treating vaccinations on many people using somethign called Bioresonace therapy. And shes discovering alot of peoples allergies disappear, once the initial vacciantion source has been elliminated from the body.

Bioresonance technology has even helped people with learning disabilities, and Autism, and mental retardation, where the root cause was immunizations.

sounds like warning signs should be used more, sorry for your horrible young life, but like me, i not allergic to anything.

Actually venom many vaccinations are linked to most eveything they have no reference for..including allergies, toxins are in those shots and toxins live in the fat on our body....good post ...sleep disorder hmmm , you know alot of people have difficulty sleeping, not to your degree but none the less, also ADHD, behavioral issues are also vaccinine related.....

but some times usually, when you treat venom against venom, some venom is left over, causing either harmful, or helpful causes.

I have not had either of my boys vaccinated at all. They have been remarkably healthy and have never been on antibiotics or any other medication. My youngest is autistic to begin with - I hardly wanted him to get something else in him that could upset his health.

I homeschool, so the vaccinations needed for school don't apply to me. I have to look more into the laws in my state however. I'd like to see someone try to take my kids from me (growl) .... no, I wouldn't.


A very good website about avoiding vaccinations -- http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/vaccgov.htm

My boyfriend is quite badly diabetic and his mum blames the MMR he got when he was 18months old, that the stress of it triggered it to become as severe as it is. He probably always had it, his mum just believes the vaccine brought it on badly.

scary subject and a tough decision for parents to make. I had all 4 of my children vacinated for everything the doctor had to offer. They were all fine afterwards but i consider us to be very lucky. I know other children who have had problems afterward and I also know adults who have never been immunized and are still healthy and never came in contact with any of the diseases.

thankyou for sharing I also homeschool My youngest, although he did attend school for a few years, i had no issue getting him in once I knew what form to ask for, So many parents are lied to on the shots thing the first time I went I was told he couldn't get in without his shot records, the second time i knew the way to get around it, they just say if there is an outbreak of something they will send him home.....I was actually surprised on how few states are exempt from the immunizations...

Vaccinations are very helpful. I would if died several times over...especially since I go to India. I almost died from Scarlet fever...they said the vaccination helped me fight it off before it could.

frogfish, its a personal choice (or should be!). People need to read & research and make up their own mind. Hopefully no one would decide to either get or not get vaccinated just because of what a few people said on a forum.

Agreed

I'm a little 'biased' anyways...Both my parents are doctors. I love medicine. (The field!)

Purlos it definitley is a decision made by the parents (fully informed), no one can tell you what to decide frog where did you get scarlet fever again, it is my understanding that it is a bacteria similiar to strep throat and treatable with antibiotics.....I hadn't heard of anyone dying from it...sorry the skeptic in me questions everything, i have gotten my youngest to almost 9 with not one antibiotic or any sickeness that wasn't over in a day........

I've been vaccinated against TB, with the BCG and with the MMR (once as a child, and the second 'booster' a few months ago), the 2nd MMR had a bad reaction and I couldn't use the arm it was injected in to for two weeks, luckily it got better over time. Before I got any of them my mum done some research about all of the different vaccinations and told me everything so I could make my own decision about it.

About antibiotics, when I was much younger (around 5 years old or so), when ever I got sick and taken to the doctor, he would prescribe antibiotics, but every other month I kept getting sicker and sicker. Once again my mum done some research on antibiotics and found out how they work, once she found everything out she stopped taking me to the doctor and I stopped taking antibiotics full stop; since than, in 10 years I've only ever gotten sick two times.

thankyou for sharing

Oh, I came down with it after I came back from India. I was hospitalized in Chicago for 4 days. I was 6 at the time.

i havent been sick scince i had CP lol

good thing i went to the health department to get my shots i only got the ones nessesary for middle school

one time the "nurse"(dont know if she was qualified..it was the health dept.) she put the needle in my arm and started shooting me with the vaccine and she must have missed my vein or something becuase you hear it squrting all over, and some of the vaccine was comming back out of my arm...it was nasty

im not getting anymore shots i can tell you that

vaccines? vaccine? bla no thank you

this stuff is not good. I hope i don't have to be vaccinated to beable to get into this program called job corp. that i've already been excepted to. if i will have to be i'm gonna just say it's not worth getting sick over or dieing because of the vaccine. and leave it at that. i won't take any vaccines what so ever. and if i'm pressured to do so. i'll say to them to bad. it's my choice. so deal with it and leave me be. or else i'll sue your asses. And i'll reveal everything that the vaccines causes and go public with it. After all i'm a fighter who fights for what she truly believes in no matter what.

CP what does that stand for. does it stand for Cerebal Palsy. Cause I have Cerebal Palsy.

Really? I always thought people with Cerebral Palsy were completely unable to control their bodies (athetoid or spastic).

I have very very very mild cerebal palsy. so if you would see me in person. i would look like a normal person just going about their own busissness.

I was born premature. Do you think there could be a link between cerebal palsy and vaccines. just wondering.

They know and have known for a very long time which one is causing damage.
It is the pertussis vaccine. link

Scarlet Fever is Group A beta-hemolytic streptococcus bacteria.
There is not viral connection at all, so no vaccine could have helped in any way.

And in good ole pat on the back in goverment style they ignore it..........When i started researchiong i couldn't beleive the storys from people and many have them. Agin thankyou for all contributing you storys. PREVENTION is a mighty kind word in my world....

I have all my vaccinations in day (not that I want to)...
When I was a kid I used to get the flu a lot, and I was treated with antibiotics, I seem to get it later again, when I just said stop to that and I refused to take any kind of drug I began to feel better, nowadays I can walk in the rain for hours with just a T-shirt and a jacket as upper coverage and I never get sick.
On a side note, one of my grandparents as never taken any drugs or vaccinations or anything and he is the healthiest person I've ever seen!