silverhorse
Mar 16 2006, 03:29 AM
I've recently bought this book " Astral Projections to reveal the secrets of Heaven." by Sapphire.
It is a great book, everybody wants to know about heaven, and no one can really know about heaven, and this person Sapphire is able to astral project there and personally view the heaven himself.
There is a reason why it is called Heaven, and many secrects about Heaven, totally unique and wonderful book, I recommend it.
http://people.lulu.com/users/index.php?fHomepage=189892
ShaunZero
Mar 16 2006, 04:46 AM
Anyway you can highlight some of the interesting parts for us?
Unless you're just trying to sell the book. -_-
sub_x0ne
Mar 16 2006, 05:16 AM
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Mar 15 2006, 11:46 PM) [snapback]1106714[/snapback]
Anyway you can highlight some of the interesting parts for us?
That would be nice. Astral projection is very interesting.
scipherel
Mar 16 2006, 05:52 AM
That is true especially if you are religious or spiritual.
The best time to do it is around 2 a.m. because heaven shuts down at 4 a.m in your zone time. Only few people can do it because it requires prayer or if you are pure in hearts.
There is no real technique of doing Astral projection.
ShaunZero
Mar 16 2006, 07:54 AM
QUOTE(scipherel @ Mar 16 2006, 05:52 AM) [snapback]1106772[/snapback]
That is true especially if you are religious or spiritual.
The best time to do it is around 2 a.m. because heaven shuts down at 4 a.m in your zone time. Only few people can do it because it requires prayer or if you are pure in hearts.
There is no real technique of doing Astral projection.
It closes down? What the hell?
RamboIII
Mar 16 2006, 07:57 AM
shut up whoever said heaven closes down, thats BS. how could you even say something so stupid
ShaunZero
Mar 16 2006, 08:05 AM
QUOTE(RamboIII @ Mar 16 2006, 07:57 AM) [snapback]1106861[/snapback]
shut up whoever said heaven closes down, thats BS. how could you even say something so stupid
Whoooa now Rambo. Please try to at least show some respect. Yeah, it was a farfetched comment, but no need to call them stupid... or their comment stupid, lol. It's cool man, it's cool.
scipherel
Mar 16 2006, 10:00 AM
That is not a comment and you're always free to say whatever you want. I don't care.
I'd rather said, The gates of Heaven closes at 4 a.m. in your time zone.
Only special person could enter in.
scipherel
Mar 16 2006, 10:05 AM
sometimes...even you just close your eyes...heaven will open up and you could see like a clear day without doing astral projection. Do you think this is a comment ? That is knowledge of God my friend.
Tokoyo
Mar 24 2006, 04:44 AM
QUOTE(scipherel @ Mar 16 2006, 05:00 AM) [snapback]1106936[/snapback]
That is not a comment and you're always free to say whatever you want. I don't care.
I'd rather said, The gates of Heaven closes at 4 a.m. in your time zone.
Only special person could enter in.
wait, so you're saying this is true regardles of ones time zone? also, when does it open. I'm not sure I agree with your phrasing but I do know of other things which support similiar concepts, so I'm just trying to figure out exactly what you mean.
scipherel
Mar 24 2006, 05:03 AM
QUOTE(Tokoyo @ Mar 24 2006, 04:44 AM) [snapback]1118224[/snapback]
also, when does it open.
After 6 p.m.
ShaunZero
Mar 24 2006, 05:09 AM
Why does it close down?
What does it mean when it's "open"? People can go in and out or something?
How do you know this?
scipherel
Mar 24 2006, 07:34 AM
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Mar 24 2006, 05:09 AM) [snapback]1118246[/snapback]
Why does it close down?
What does it mean when it's "open"? People can go in and out or something?
How do you know this?
Never mind...sometimes, some things should be left untouch.
I'm only talking about astral travelling.
ShaunZero
Mar 24 2006, 08:05 AM
Nevermind?
I just want answers. I'm honestly just curious as to what exactly you mean.
Heaven is open for astral projectors to enter at certain times?
scipherel
Mar 24 2006, 08:12 AM
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Mar 24 2006, 08:05 AM) [snapback]1118352[/snapback]
I just want answers.
Oh you're curious! ...the answer is "Be Good" no matter what you believe.
Heru
Mar 24 2006, 06:40 PM
Heaven? You mean the christian heaven? But I thought no one could go there except thru jesus, so whats he look like seeing as you had to see him. Or hes an expert in gnostic teachings.
What about the isreal heaven I thought no one could go there except a select few. Or hindu, islam, buddah and ancient religions is this the same heaven as there heaven or just "your" heaven.
Should read up on shamanism if your gonna do the whole astral projection thing.
But seriously you think all thru the years even during the time of our ancestors who knew more about this than we do, shamans who spent years and years astral planeing and never reach that high. Then this man who hasnt done one thing except utter words and you seriously believe hes been to heaven.
Im gonna have to label sapphire a false prophet.
Sapphire
Mar 26 2006, 09:49 PM
QUOTE(silverhorse @ Mar 16 2006, 03:29 AM) [snapback]1106632[/snapback]
I've recently bought this book " Astral Projections to reveal the secrets of Heaven." by Sapphire.
It is a great book, everybody wants to know about heaven, and no one can really know about heaven, and this person Sapphire is able to astral project there and personally view the heaven himself.
There is a reason why it is called Heaven, and many secrects about Heaven, totally unique and wonderful book, I recommend it.
http://people.lulu.com/users/index.php?fHomepage=189892 
I am the one who wrote this book "Astral Projection to Reveal the secrects of Heaven".
I guess I could answer some question here.
Sapphire
Mar 26 2006, 10:03 PM
QUOTE(ZeroShadow @ Mar 16 2006, 04:46 AM) [snapback]1106714[/snapback]
Anyway you can highlight some of the interesting parts for us?
Unless you're just trying to sell the book. -_-
Some highlight of the book:
* What is it like over there? * There are two biggest secrects about Heaven, it is regarding why it is called Heaven and what is so wonderful about Heaven?
As a human, you suffer hunger, sickness, aging. How about over there? Who is there? Who will you see over there?
Oderint
Mar 26 2006, 10:07 PM
so why IS it called heaven?
Sapphire
Mar 26 2006, 10:09 PM
QUOTE(Prawus @ Mar 26 2006, 10:07 PM) [snapback]1121737[/snapback]
so why IS it called heaven?
The main reason is written in the book, but I can tell you a hint, it is age related.
Sapphire
Mar 26 2006, 10:10 PM
QUOTE(Heru @ Mar 24 2006, 06:40 PM) [snapback]1118869[/snapback]
Heaven? You mean the christian heaven? But I thought no one could go there except thru jesus, so whats he look like seeing as you had to see him. Or hes an expert in gnostic teachings.
What about the isreal heaven I thought no one could go there except a select few. Or hindu, islam, buddah and ancient religions is this the same heaven as there heaven or just "your" heaven.
Should read up on shamanism if your gonna do the whole astral projection thing.
But seriously you think all thru the years even during the time of our ancestors who knew more about this than we do, shamans who spent years and years astral planeing and never reach that high. Then this man who hasnt done one thing except utter words and you seriously believe hes been to heaven.
Im gonna have to label sapphire a false prophet.
I can project to kingdom of the gods, not to mention Heaven.
Heaven is a lower level than the kingdom of the gods.
Kingdom of the gods, is where all the gods live.
Oderint
Mar 26 2006, 10:11 PM
so we actually have to pay money to know why heaven is called heaven?

no offence, but that sounds like christian logic
Sapphire
Mar 26 2006, 10:16 PM
I am going to breifly answer everyone's post.
Heaven does not have closing hours. Yes, some human need visitor pass to when astral project to Heaven. But it is possible.
It is opened for visitors, the reason is they want everybody not just earth human have a goal to go over there afterlife.
Yes, You will see Jesus there.
Oderint
Mar 26 2006, 10:22 PM
let me just try a little line of thought here
If Heaven is only a "subdivision" of "The Kingdom of the Gods", then surely other religions version of heaven must exist as well, or?
Is there a Valhall for the Aasatru? is there a Nirvana?
are the heavens for muslims and christians seperate?
If there are no other "subdivisions", why is the other place called "Kingdom of the Gods" (plural)?
Oderint
Mar 26 2006, 10:31 PM
oh, and another one
How is God and Allah coming along in the Kingdom of the Gods? Are they pals? if so, how do they feel about the situation in the world today?
ShaunZero
Mar 27 2006, 03:51 AM
Sounds.... a bit farfetched..... Well.... not just a BIT, but ALOT.
novaceleste
Mar 27 2006, 03:58 AM
QUOTE(Sapphire @ Mar 26 2006, 04:16 PM) [snapback]1121754[/snapback]
I am going to breifly answer everyone's post.
Heaven does not have closing hours. Yes, some human need visitor pass to when astral project to Heaven. But it is possible.
It is opened for visitors, the reason is they want everybody not just earth human have a goal to go over there afterlife.
Yes, You will see Jesus there.
I believe that when we project that we go to the astral plane which is way lower than the "heaven" level. Spiprits and beings are there from their own planes. To me heaven and the God/Goddess level is not accessable until we die. Then, I think it is still questionable as to that level being accessable for just plain old spirits like us.
Sapphire
Mar 27 2006, 11:41 PM
QUOTE(Prawus @ Mar 26 2006, 10:11 PM) [snapback]1121746[/snapback]
so we actually have to pay money to know why heaven is called heaven?

no offence, but that sounds like christian logic

What I meant "Heaven" is not the place but a feeling.
To live in Heaven, it is almost same feeling like hitting lottery. Many surprises over there. Out of ordinary human thoughts.
Sapphire
Mar 27 2006, 11:44 PM
QUOTE(Prawus @ Mar 26 2006, 10:22 PM) [snapback]1121761[/snapback]
let me just try a little line of thought here
If Heaven is only a "subdivision" of "The Kingdom of the Gods", then surely other religions version of heaven must exist as well, or?
Is there a Valhall for the Aasatru? is there a Nirvana?
are the heavens for muslims and christians seperate?
If there are no other "subdivisions", why is the other place called "Kingdom of the Gods" (plural)?
Heaven is not a subdivision, this will help you to understand. Try imagine this. They are two planets.
Desty
Mar 30 2006, 06:05 PM
I have a question for you sapphire, (well many) but ill keep it to one question.
How is it that you are able to travel there in astral form? to heaven that is.
maybe i didnt phrase the question correctly, not sure all the terms of astral projecting, ive never done it myself except once when i was a little kid. i did it for like a minute. and barely left my body at that.
strange that most people would as questions like whats heaven and whose there did you see what god looks like? lol but me i ask this... im curious (personal reasons)
Heru
Mar 30 2006, 09:33 PM
I hope no one is actualy buying into this.
Not only does his teachings go against early and modern christian religion (bringing this up because of the mention of jesus) But all modern and ancient religions except new age, which is pretty much anything u can imagine is true.
But unlike most prophets or messengers he charges you for it.
Now again since he mentioned jesus. From his stories hes not very big on making a prophet off of religion, the whole trashing the market ordeal. But yet not only has he met or maybe just seen jesus but hes touched heaven who most have described as a life changing expierence.
Anyone know how much Buddah charged for his book?
Kaknelson
Apr 1 2006, 08:06 AM
Saphire... if what you say is true... have you met jesus?
If so, what is his skin color.. i mean if you saw him?
scipherel
Apr 1 2006, 10:40 AM
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Apr 1 2006, 08:06 AM) [snapback]1129461[/snapback]
Saphire... if what you say is true... have you met jesus?
If so, what is his skin color.. i mean if you saw him?
...lol...now, the author was more farfetch than me.
Anyway, to answer your question...
Jesus always wear a brilliant white robe and a blazing face.
You will be ashamed to look at Him.
scipherel
Apr 2 2006, 09:26 AM
I got one question for you Saphire.
Have you been to a place where there's a very long cue of people who died
and there is a person who's holding a key and that he was also had a book
in his hand that he look if the persons name was on the book?
MoseyT
Apr 27 2006, 09:21 PM
When I visited Heaven I saw that place scipherel. I saw Bill and Ted there and got a chance to talk to Station.
Irish
Apr 27 2006, 09:39 PM
QUOTE(RamboIII @ Mar 16 2006, 01:57 AM) [snapback]1106861[/snapback]
shut up whoever said heaven closes down, thats BS. how could you even say something so stupid
No need to compete for the title Rambo!
exeller
Apr 27 2006, 11:43 PM
In my religion it is clearly stated that HEAVEN can not be described by any tongue, or depicted by any pen. And yet this man is claiming he has been to heaven and offers a simple explanation of what it is, and what exist in it

Are you sure you are not high or dreaming when you visit heaven

If this book was truely what you claim it is, you would give it away for free instead of selling it. I don't think anyone if fooled. I'm with you Rambo
klamath
Apr 29 2006, 02:07 AM
I've been reading many books on OBE and AP. In one particular they were talking about different tiers of heaven. There's levels of heaven that a spirit goes to for a short time before they are reborn. Then there's the last level (tier) of heaven that old experienced souls/spirits go to and do not have to be reborn again. Supposedly the only way the author (of the book I was reading) got to this tier was with his spirit guide. A obe'r or AP'r cannot go alone and have to be invited to this level of heaven. Maybe this is what the poster was talking about??
R3LOAD
May 10 2006, 01:41 AM
QUOTE(scipherel @ Mar 24 2006, 04:12 AM) [snapback]1118358[/snapback]
Oh you're curious! ...the answer is "Be Good" no matter what you believe.
this is so confusing
Ferran the Skeptic
May 10 2006, 01:59 AM
alright ive got quite a lot i could say about this...
1) Jesus and Heaven are very much Christian theology. Christianity says there is one god, so how can there be a "kingdom of the gods"?
2) Its "open for visitation"? If thats true, why are you the first to visit?
3) The name "Heaven" cannot possibly pertain to how OLD it is. Heaven is ageless. Thats the point.
4) Of all the places on all the "planes of existence" you might have projected yourself, how in the hell did you manage to stumble upon Heaven itself?
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