Hey streetpumps, whos toung and mouth is that in ur pic? - curious. like george

It was off of some dating ad.

For the Record:



Detective Ronald Y. Ito Illegally and Criminally Suppressed The
Information that I gave him regarding Rocky Bateman and MORE from
The Defense in The OJ Simpson Case Criminal Trial.


It came out in The Robert Blake Case Civil Trial that He he "DID NOT"
Follow up on Leads like he should have (Possibly another Killer). An
Audio Tape was Played in Court with Ito Doing this. GOOD GRIEF.


In My last Conversation with Detective Ronald Y. Ito in January of
1995, Ito said he was NEVER going to Acknowledged he talked with me. I
DON'T THINK SO.


Detective Ronald Y. Ito in The OJ Simpson Case Criminal Trial, was a
"Lead Chaser" for The LAPD and The Prosecution in this Case.


Last Year, during the summer, I Faxed over some of my OJ Simpson Case Legal Paperwork to Brad Gage (One of Notorious B.I.G's Family (The Wallace Family)
Attorney's), Mr. Gage was VERY INTERESTED with the Information I had
concerning the Criminal and Illegal Parker Center RHD Detective Ronald Y. Ito. VERY INTERESTED!!!!!!!!!


For those who don''t Know, Ito Also Illegally Covered-up Parts of The Rampart Investigation concerning The Tupac and Notorious B.I.G. Murders. Sly Stallone is doing an HBO Movie about Russell Poole. Poole investigated the Tupac/Notorious BIG Murders. His 40 Page report on the murders was Whittled down to a 2 page report by>>>>>Detective Ronald Y. Ito and another LAPD COP.

With Detective Ronald Y. Ito, his ILLEGAL Crimes never seem to stop, well, I would think After The Robert Blake Civil Trial, Ito's LAPD Criminal doings are Over. I HOPE.




This is from Cinescape Movies----Beyond Entertainment:

Sylvester Stallone is writing and will direct RAMPART SCANDAL, a new film based on the murders of rap stars Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls. The picture will also touch upon the controversial element of police corruption within the LAPD and how it affected the investigations of Shakur and Smalls' murders.

Stallone will also star in the film as Detective Russell Poole, the real-life cop who investigated the murder of Smalls and promised his family that he would find out who killed him. The film may also star Death Row Records exec Suge Knight.


Filming is expected to commence on September 1. The movie is being produced by Franchise Pictures, whom with Stallone made the films GET CARTER and DRIVEN.



Mario G. Nitrini 111
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The OJ Simpson Case

Hmmm. Yet another one goes down. Wonder why?


Rapper 'Proof' of D12 Killed at Detroit Nightclub
Tuesday, April 11, 2006



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DETROIT — Proof, a member of rap group D12 and a close friend of Eminem, was shot to death early Tuesday at a nightclub along Eight Mile, the road made famous by the 2002 film that starred Eminem and in which Proof had a bit part.

Proof, whose real name is Deshaun Holton, was one of two people shot in the head after an argument escalated into gunfire, said Detroit police spokesman James Tate.

The other person — a 35-year-old man — was critically wounded, Tate said.

Plans for a memorial service were incomplete, said Dennis Dennehy, publicist for D12's label, Interscope Records.

"His friends and family would appreciate privacy during this difficult time," Dennehy said in a statement.

D12, whose members include Eminem, has been around since the mid-1990s, when members of the rap group met at Detroit's Hip-Hop Shop, a clothing store by day and a hip-hop club by night.

Proof was the best man at Eminem's wedding in January and often appeared alongside the superstar rapper at concerts and public appearances.

The two men were shot inside the C.C.C. nightclub, a small bar in a strip of businesses along Eight Mile, which divides Detroit and its northern suburbs, Tate said.

Wende Berry, a spokeswoman for St. John Health System, said Holton was dead on arrival at St. John Conner Creek, an outpatient treatment facility.

In December, another member of Eminem's inner circle — rapper Obie Trice — was shot while driving on a Detroit-area highway.

you could make millions and you dont have to actually have any talent.

It's not the music, it's the present day mainstream image of hip-hop which is pissing me off, underground and the older stuff is the only way to go for me.



It was a horrible thing, but you do know that slavery that started in Western Africa was Africans selling Africans right? Europeans did not just land their ships on the shores and round up people.



It's not hip-hop, it's just the fact that ghetto people listen to hip-hop because it's their music, Hip-Hop originated in the Slums of Brooklyn when it was a mess in the late 70's.

Anyways, the best rappers are usually the ones that were well educated, had a good perception about the world. It's a sad thing though that when going through a bad neighbor hood, not even a respectable rapper is safe.

Aside: What gets me ticked is that you are hearing about all these recent murder trials against rappers who I don't doubt are guilty, for the most part, and people now get the idea that Hip-Hop is all about guns and getting high/drunk.

I hear you man... but you think all the kids in the burbs, sitting in their leather lazy-boys, wearing their hats backwards and embracing rap (really not getting how it represents struggle!) have any trouble with Gang violence? lol. It's those who actually live it, they are influenced by gang violence, as they are born into it... you can only blame the system.

I think for people who talk shyt bout biggie and pac have obviously never ever listened to their lyrics.. Those lyrics are powerful. TUPAC was on a whole another level and was way ahead of his time, too bad he had to go. I got love for all types of music, what makes me mad is the people who don't like hip hop is that they stereotype it and just don't really like music for music and appreciate all different forms of it. But there is some whack ass hip hop out there i'm not gonna lie bout that, but the music that pac and biggie did was CLASSIC and will ALWAYS BE CLASSIC.

RIP TUPAC AND BIGGIE

after tupacs first shooting in 94 he declared war on biggie thinking he had been set up
and when tupac was in jail people were telling him it was biggie who set him up
plus it was people who were with big who were alleged to have shot pac
and were seen wearing his jewellery after the first shooting

but people seem to think pacs murder came out of the blue when in fact there had been a few confrontations between tupac and numerous east coast people since his first shooting
during these confrontations shots were fired and people were hit

so i believe biggie had tupac killed in vegas to stop things from going any further
maybe biggie regretted it and the gangsters who were extorting him and puff daddy and who would have been the hitters feared they couldnt trust big to keep his mouth shut so they had to kill him too
maybe im wrong but its the most realistic situation to me

but in the words of saigon:
"who do yall niggaz think that it was that killed biggie?
A.southside crips cos puffy owed em a grip?
B.some crazy pac fan that flipped and unloaded a clip?
C.missles from pistols from government officials?
D.the same cat that came back and sang "i miss you""

lol. no doubt bredrin.

Yet, i do doubt biggie had 2pac killed, but there is rumors of this. I think Pac knew Big had nothing to do with the first shooting, considering biggie visited pac in the hospital and they talked for hours after the shooting while Pac was in the bed. Big and Pac were also seen hugging, shortly after an award show when they were supposidly "beefing". I believe Suge Knight had something to do with it, inching Pac to use all this for publicity to start his "world wide westside" idea. Big and Pac were boys, they didn't want War. Things were tooken out of context by the media.

Any emotion, or event that happend to Pac he would right it down. And make a hit out of it, thats how he got sh** off of his chest. So if he was mad at Biggie for the shooting, not helping, etc. Pac would go at Biggie on a diss track, or in the media. Even though later on his mind frame would change. Pac was a poetic street prophet, emotional at times.

When you grow up in the enviroment Tupac and Biggie did your options are limited. Poverty and violence surrounded them ,they just did what they learned on the streets. I don't know if you have ever really listened closely to any of Tupacs music but it does have alot of truth to it. If you don't know anything about these people how can you down them for what they did in the past? R.I.P. Tupac and Biggie.

Concrete Rose

Have you heard of the rose that grew from a crack in the concrete?
Proving natures law is wrong, It learned to walk without having feet.
Funny it seems, but by keeping it's dreams it learned to breath
fresh air.
Long live the rose that grew from a crack in the concrete
when no one else cared.

By: Tupac Amaur Shakur

In The Event of my Demise
In the event of my demise,
When my heart can beat nomore,
I hope to die for a principle or a beleif that I have lived for,
I know my time is coming,
Cause i can feel the shadows depth,
So much I wanted to accomplish before I reached my death,
I've come to grips with my destiny,
and wiped the last tear from my eye,
I loved all who were positive,
In the event of my demise.

Written By: Tupac Amaur Shakur

Old thread - I know! - but I felt I had to add something on a topic that is very close to my heart indeed (even though I am a British, White, 33 year old Male - that has listened to Hip Hop for more years than I care to remember without going down the wrong tracks as people like to stereotype people that do listen, understand and enjoy the musical genre), and even got 'inked' with a tribute & memorium to Tupac Shakur upon myself less than a week after the murder. As I type this, it would be Pac's 36th birthday in 7 days time (coincidence and no inferrence intended to the 7 Day Theory that has been put about after the album of the same name released by Tupac under the Makaveli alias).

My own thoughts on the Tupac killing, is that it was set up by Suge Knight due to Pac saying that he was leaving Death Row Records due to not being paid circa. $10 Million that he was owed. Obviously if Pac left the label, the rights to his music would go with him including back catalogue - which would be worth significantly more to Knight than the $10 Million owed over time. Suge knew that Pac would not be wearing his bulletproof vest that night in the car after the Seldon - Tyson fight, and set up Orlando Anderson in the lobby whom Pac and his crew assualted (how it started has never been made fully clear). This in turn gave an excuse for the Anderson's 'gang' friends to later carry out the shooting on the Strip. I find it very strange that Pac very rarely went out in public without wearing his bulletproof vest, yet on this night, he was not wearing it and ended up getting shot. Coincidence? Maybe, but it is going to take a lot more than that to persuade me it was coincidental. Less than a year later though, Orlando Anderson is killed in a LA shooting (possibly orchestrated by Suge due to the Police getting too close to pinning the killing on Anderson and Knight being scared that Anderson would drop him in it as a bargaining offer for reduced sentence).

The short answer, is that Knight orchestrated both deaths using two LA cops as the triggermen. The reason for Tupac's death was financial as explained above. Sadly, Biggie's death was simply a clean-up. A fact confirmed by a man known as "the bookkeeper," a financial whizz serving time for impersonating a lawyer. In no uncertain terms, he claims he heard Suge Knight and associates plan Biggie's death using Harry Billups (whom was a Police officer along with David Mack, whom both made extra money freelancing as bodyguards for Knight) as the trigger man. Not only did he hear it, he helped pay for it, he says.

DAMN! it has to be the fact this is a social forum, because else i would have swore you full. Against persons like Tupac YOU are the dirtbag.

You don't have the same backgrounds!
You didn't got raised where he got raised, in the harsh ghettos of america!
If you would be a broke thug, don't you want to have money and fame?

2pac did not only do it for the money, but he was a SOLDIER, POET, HUMAN RIGHT ACTIVIST , ACTOR, and he rapped to earn a living. He was the living evidence of good in this world. He set up Thuglife, raised projects for ghetto children to help them in the future.

SWEETPUMPER, you dont know anything about this wonderful man. Listen to his songs, search for his lyrics

There's, never a good day, cause in my hood they
let they AK's pump strays where the kids play
And every Halloween, check out the murder scene
Can't help but duplicate the violence seen on the screen
My homies dyin 'fore they get to see they birthdays
These is the worst days, sometimes it hurts to pray
And even God turned his back on the ghetto youth
I know that ain't the truth, sometimes I look for proof
I wonder if heaven got a ghetto, and if it does
Does it matter if you blood or you cuz
Remember how it was, the picnics and the parties in the projects
Small time drinkin gettin high with them armies
Just another knucklehead kid from the gutter
I'm dealin with the madness, raised by a single mother
I'm tryin to tell you when it's on
You gotta keep your head to the sky and be strong, most of all hold on

Millions of people got INSPIRED by his music to live on, and keep your head up in hard times, because you only fail when you give up. Tupacs songs are way more interesting and inspiring then loud rock bands who scream their lungs out on stage with drunk groopies yelling at them. I must admit, hiphop has alot of rappers which live in that circuit, and i have to say 2pac's lifestyle had him killed.

But dont tell me 2pac is a dirtbag, because there was never anyone like him and there will never be anyone like him. Making comments like that makes him 10 times more a real man then you Sweetpumper. Think before you comment

He's dead. It doesn't matter anymore.

I don't like the whole "gangsta" thing. They made some good music but that's it, I don't like em for who they were

is it at all possible that they had it coming in the sense of street retribution ? that they stepped on someones toes and thought they were too big to touch ? maybe fame gave them big mouths that fit their egos' and someone in the hood didn't like it ?

act like a thug die like a thug. it's that simple.

^ I couldn't agree with you more.

It does. Calling him dirtbag after he is dead while he was one of the better people on this earth is pathetic and cowardly.


There is something wrong on this earth. Tupac just told his story and wasn't afraid of people telling him to shut up.


''They claim that i'm violent just because i refuse to remain silent.'' - Tupac Shakur

It's called 'rap music'.

No, it's not. You know this, but your comment is just a childlish way out from this topic. Rap is commercial, it is. But hiphop is something else. 2pac was in hiphop. Hiphop is meant for telling people how weak and lowhearted the politic in a country is, like America.
Think about it. THe klu klux clan is an example, and like alot other organisations. White people started it themselves, by slavery and other forms of discrimination. Black people like 2pac just did not take it anymore and that's why he had a beef with the president and other high people in America. Tupac was just seeing things on the streets which were wrong and America did not do anything about it. When he tries to tell people the truth, the FBI and all those other suckers are on him. That is weak. America is weak.

We'll stop now before one of us gets a cap popped in a drive-by.

That is not a reason for the criminal to take away any innocent persons life; thug or not. And we don't even know how these two lived.

* yawns *

...

don't you mean "rawr" ???

The Governemt may have killed him...think about it.

They had to deal with a black man that was trying to get the black people in America to be rebellious against the country. This theory is very acceptable, like you can see in this DVD coming out this year, more then 10 years of the sgocking murder.

http://www.tupacrevelation.com/

Straight to the pont.

Bless yah!

I did. ROCK ON!

sweetpumper, I heart you.

I'm so glad we've gone full circle and everything is now ironic, I mean I can say that Biggie smalls was one fat N-word and it's not a problem!
C'mon..He was though wasn't he... seriously the FATTEST N-WORD I've seen in a long time.
It's all good clean fun.. and not racist...
Anyway on topic, I think Puff Daddy P diddy killed Tupac and Biggie Smalls. He either ordered the 'hit' or he did it himself.

who cares!!

Just had to bump it to give my opinion on the matter.

2Pac was tired of Death Row (more specifically Suge Knight) screwing him over. Suge owed Pac a ton of money (not sure how much) and 2Pac had told his bodyguard Frank Alexander about leaving the label to form his own label, Makaveli records. He would be taking with him all of his riches, all of his music, etc. So Suge got Frank to fabricate a story about a Crip gang member, Orlando Anderson, stealing a chain off a Death Row employee at a shopping mall. Tupac came across said crip member, Orlando Anderson, and beat him down in the MGM Grand Casino the night he was shot. I'm not sure if Orlando himself was the eventual shooter of 2Pac, but Suge definitely set the murder up (going as far as threatening 2Pac's bodyguard, Frank, to kill him if he didn't comply with the plan). BTW Orlando Anderson was later shot and killed (in '98 or '99 I believe) at a car wash by a rival gang member.

As for Biggie, he was killed by Amir Muhammad, a close friend of a corrupt cop/Death Row affilated David Mack. Suge set this one up so that people would blame it all on the "East/West" rivalry that had been brewing as a result of the 2Pac/Biggie feud and try to pass it off as retaliation for the Shakur murder.

I'm not even going to bother replying to the "good riddance" comments and the like. Both were talented rappers (2Pac's one of my favorites, never got into Biggie much) and up there in my top 5 or 10 (Rakim of course is the GOAT). But when people treat them like they're "prophets" or something of that stature that's when I think it's ridiculous IMO.

Lol.... "Rap sucks, it glamourises violence".... As soon as a rapper gets killed.... "Whoo! Good riddance, they should shoot more of them!."...

Funny...

Apparently rap doesn't take talent, because being a poet just isnt talent... Edgar Allen Poe should be ashamed.

The mainstream image of rap has gone to hell, yes. But saying all rap is like whats presented on TV is like saying South Korea is just as bad as North Korea for the sole purpose that they both have the name Korea.

Though history repeats, remember what they said about rock wayyyy back in the day....

I listen to everything, I don't care...it's just music. I don't blame the actual music for "glamorising" anything, just the idiot fans that take it too seriously.

In a way yes,the music was like a lesson,dont do what I do,and it was Legal,making money leget and not selling drugs and the MAN will leave you alone,but they had gone too far to turn back ,for all their crimes and sins caught up with them,they paid the ulltamet price"Their Lives".Tupoc died in his car by an AK47 not a cop gun,Biggie in a hail of bullets,Why? goes to show "WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND". I feel bad that they died,really I do but lets let them rest in peace.

Errr...after 4 pages of pointless crapping on, back to the topic at hand.

The most acceptable theory for the murders of 2pac and Biggie in my oppinion is that it was all plotted out by the manager of Death Row records, Suge Knight.

2pac was owed millions of dollars in loyalties and rumour was it that Pac was going to break away from Deathrow and start his own record company taking with him the hundereds of songs that were not yet released, the easiest way for Suge to keep the songs and royalties was to put a hit on 2pac and be in the car with him when it happened, the perfect alibi.

The death of Biggie Smalls was also necessery to take all blame away from Suge Knight, this way, Biggies death could be blamed on a retaliation for 2pacs death as people first suspected because of the beef between East and West.

I don't understand why people in this thread are such ignorant ****s....u can't confused late 80's and 90's hip hop with the mainstream crap that comes out now in the likes of 50 cent. Modern rappers are now simply milking the genre of gangster rap, young kids get influenced by them because they are morons and don't understand how fake images of modern studio rappers are.

Once upon a time rap had meaning and was in no way beneath true poetry. . .but thats not what this thread is about

Thought this was as good a place as any. I guess someone 'dissed' her.

(AP) Grammy-nominated rapper Remy Ma was arrested Saturday on charges of attempted murder in a shooting outside a trendy Manhattan nightspot, police said.

http://www.showbuzz.cbsnews.com/stories/20...in3059059.shtml

tupac died while he was on the toilet








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