Got this in my emial today...

March 20 marks more than just the vernal equinox -- it's also the day the Sun moves into Aries, the first sign of the zodiac.

an Astrological New Year.

um...sweet!?!

... in the Age of Aries some 2160+ years ago. Today we're on the cusp of Pisces/Aquarius it's closer to March and even Feb. If I'm not mistaken, that is.

And speaking of Illuminati Dates, consider that in Persia the iconography for Aries was the Lamb. At the Spring equinox the Sun passes-over Aries, the Lamb, slaying it. Hmm. Can you think of any religions that started out with the symbolism of a lamb slain on a cross? Well, actually today it passes through the Fish (Pisces) and soon the Waterbearing Man (Aquarius).

Incidentally, the reason why Mary is present at the crucifixion is because Virgo is opposite Aries at the pass-over, to the NW on the horizon. Just as Virgo's feet were stamped on the ground at the Winter Solstice when she gave birth to the Solar Child.

Anyways ... back to your regularly scheduled paranoia.

im a virgo.

could you repeat everything you just said in simpler terms.. im feeling like an idiot.. im gonna stay this way for a while.

i kinda get the changes of the ages... but not much else. how could i know.



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look for political movements on this date. actions. but dont watch tv all day. go out and do something nice. wake up the 21 and catch the morning news.

You're not an idiot ... in spite of my occasional sarcastic remarks. The precession of the equinoxes forms the basis for many of the ancient religions, including Christianity. The Great Year of Plato is some 26,000 years or so, the time it takes for the sun to move through the 12 zodiac signs due to the earth's wobble. Each sign takes about 2160 years or so. During each of the aeons (ages) the religious symbolism of that zodiacal age mirrored the iconography of the zodiacal sign. In the Age of Taurus, roughly 4000-2000 BC, in Egypt the religious symbolism of the "bull" or Taurus was prominent. Apis, the bull-headed deity, was prominent in Egypt. Later, around 2160 BC, the Age of Aries (The Ram) began. Amun-Ra was a ram-headed god. Zeus-Ammon was also Ram-headed. In Judea, the sacrifices of the Temple of Solomon were commenced with Lamb and ram sacrifices. The Persians used the Lamb to symbolize Aries. In the Exodus the Jews were criticized for using the religious symbolism of the previous era, the "golden calf." Their new symbol was the Lamb ... which was slain at the Vernal Equinox. The previous sign the Sun passed through was Taurus.

The Sun, you see, was always a symbol for the Soul. The sun represented the divinity within. Therefore the ancients made up certain stories around the sun's journey through the constellations in order to depict the Soul's journey though life and death and rebirth. Darkness, the sun's "enemy" was personified as Set, the Sun-god's evil brother. The spring equinox represented the solar hero's (Osiris) victory over darkness as the days get longer than the nighttime at the spring equinox. Isis (Virgo) represents matter, or Mother Earth. Mater = matter. The Sun's entry into matter represents the incarnation. Draco, the Dragon, was essentially the polar axis of the universe, and was associated with Set, the badguy. One of his "evil" allies was Scorpio, a month that heralded the coming winter. Eewww. Capricorn (the goat) was considered one of the gateway months as the Milky Way was closest to the southern horizon and so Soul's could journey more easily to earth then. So, the goat-man (Capricorn) sort of became a symbol for man's incarnation. Thus, you had the early Greeks constructing satry plays (half-men-half-goats) depicting the Soul's battle with the lower goat-man (animal nature). These goat-songs or goat-stories are how the "tragedy" was invented.

Later, this same basic format of the solar "astro-mythology" story was adopted by the Christians. Virgo (Mary) did battle with her old nemesis Draco and Cetus, the Sea-Beast, who spit out a river (Eridanas) in order to swallow her up before she could give birth to the solar child, the conquering hero. Thus, before the Soul is born the Sun-God must do battle with the old beasts, just as Apollo had to do battle with Python and the Satyrs, representing the complexes of the unconsciousness and the ego. The ego must step aside to allow the heiros gamos, the Sacred Marriage in order that the Soul can assume its place on the throne of the Inner Temple. Then, just as in the Eleusian mysteries, the initiate undergoes the enthronement and receives a crown of laurels, that they may conquer and put on the Golden Fleece, the "New Jerusalem" that descends from Above, the 12-gated City with streets of "transparent gold."

That is a short synopsis. Clear as mud?

That being said, the Illuminati count their days from the reign of Amenhotep IV ... so it's the year 3000 something. You can rest assured that June 6, 2006 means nothing to them.

Cro maat,
A frater

Aren't we moving into/already in the Aquarian Age?

I'm a Psices btw. Yay for me.

Psices = the GAYEST Zodiac Sign. LOL

Well, yeah, some you could say already feel the zeitgeist of the Aquarian age. But, as you can see, many will desperately cling to the "GAYEST" notions of the Picean era for as long as they live ... despite all reason and sanity.

I haven't actually bothered to observe the eastern sky the night before the Vernal Equinox to see how far the Sun has moved into Aquarius versus Pisces. I've never really been able to locate either of these two constellations in the sky. To me they aren't like Orion or the Big Dipper that you can just pick out easily with a casual glance at the stars. All that is to say that there really is an actual astronomical event involved.

Pisces rule!!! But, yes, I'm afraid it is time to move on.

so what will be the theme of this new age? the water age? the light age? will a fith element be introduced? ether? will anything happen at all?

and what are the "gay" notions of the pices age?

Before we get there we will likely take a step "backwards" due to wars and environmental catastrophes. As a result, people will awaken to "authentic" spirituality instead of its empty shellcases. People will realize the negative aspect of commoditization of everything and want to return to the days of the artisan and the craftsman ... when people made things with their own hands instead of buying everything at Wal-Mart. People will sense a greater connection with Nature and be more in harmony with her cycles and her energies. Major earth-changes will open up "new" frontiers that were once inhabited in former ages. The Hopi "stepping stones" of the Third World will reappear. There will be a renewed "tribalism" and a return to the ways of our ancestors, a remembrance of things long forgotten. Herbalism will flourish as a medicine culture reemerges. Shamanism will be more prominant, albeit tailored to each cultural tradition. Whereas in past ages the focus was on the material world and "outer space," man will turn his attention to the exploration of his "inner space." The "psychonauts" will be valued as they once were in Tibet.

Think Frodo in the Shire, sitting by the tree reading a book awaiting the arrival of Gandalf ... the Druidic priest/magician to arrive ...

so am i wrong to think occult groups and their end justify the means mentaility and warcraft will cause these enviromental setbacks?

To repeat ...

It isn't the occult groups who have a militaristic/fascist mentality. It has always been religious fundamentalists. And war profiteers. The best occult groups also tend to be more sensitive to Nature ... so clearly they aren't the ones to blame for raping Mother Earth.

---Rosencruez

Your advice sounds like an ominous prediction. I had a strange experience regarding 3/20. You may be right.

BTW: What will the Age of Aquarius bring??? The Water bearer will bring floods, hurricanes and tsunamis , living up to his name.

im not sure sure about this. there is always some humpbacked dude whispering in the puppets ear.. and with bush its not jesus christ. but i dunno

What wer the "Gay" Notions of the Pices Era?

what was the strange experience?

-catch ya tomarrow.

Well said. I don't believe for one minute that occult groups want to harm our Mother Earth!!

no they wouldnt... but would they set a perscribed fire to it?

my forestry class taught me about perscribing fires... its when humans, in charge of preserving wildlife, set fire to it. They do this bc it frees up the strangling underbrush, clears the sun blocking canopy, and allows new, fresh, beatiful growth to grow from the ashes, which benefits the forests and wildlife on almost every aspect.

this is all and well. and for the longest time animal rights groups protested this act. they said it destorye wildlife habbitation and enviroments and killed animals there... and it did.

so the current residents get screwed... but in short time, a matter of years, there is new wildlife that replaces the old... there is actually more there than b4 the fire. the habitation is better, and the wildlife in general is better..


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now we have humans, who are like trees, and powerful secret society enlightend who for the longest time raises humanity(the forest). and the elite are the forest keepers(who like the forest keepers are playing god, but not with trees, but humanity)

If you look around, society and the world in general is due for forest fire. we aredestorying the enviroment. we are over populated, and our nature is irresponsible and apathetic towards everything besides ourself. We are deseised growth. And our children(new growth) are growing up in this... this makes bad crop..

something is going to have to change soon. only the rich with families might argue this point with me.

so occult groups could set up and allow the warlords to destory themselves and almost everything else.... purifying fires from the sky.... dstorying the beast of capitolism and the conflicting ideals of zionism and islamic facism.(AKA the current war of ideals btwn the west and east... which if humanity is not careful could lead to WWIII).

from the ashes emerges the tribalistic society that rosencruez has mentioned of the comming age.


i hope my forethought is proven to be wrong though.

Apophenia, adbox, apophenia. Beware of it. Just because you might make a connection in your head, doesn't mean such a connection exists out there in the "real" world. We can all convince ourselves that there is some connection between something you learned in forestry and the Illuminati (or can we? that one takes a bit of effort) ... but it may not be a healthy thing in so doing.

99 percent of the posts here in this section would vanish were it not for apophenia. Or so it seems.

The Crying of Lot 49 continues.

i am aware.. thats all i can say.

anything happen today worth posting?

nada piniata!! Atleast, not so far!

I think this New Age isn't began,because its supposed to be a very pacific age,where people became more espiritually (not religious) and left the material interests,everyone life in harmony without prejudices,mans with mans,womans with womans will not became a problem anymore because the most important is love each other no matter if you are the same sex or not,and the people will kill less animals to eat (or fun) and will became more vegetarian.

If this will happen I think it will when every wars and confronts and interests go to a end,that makes people thinking about what is happening in the world and became looking to themselfs.

So mote it be.