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| QUOTE (Infowarrior @ Sep 20 2003, 04:06 AM) |
Good job of avoiding the questions cuff  |
It's Cufflink to you, infowarrior. Or sir.
And it's you who dodged the questions. And you obviously ignored Schadeaux's post as well. If you don't wish to apologize for whichever remarks you made in your edited post, that's your business.
Like I said, start a new post, and we'll talk about that.
| QUOTE (Cufflink @ Sep 20 2003, 04:12 AM) | ||
It's Cufflink to you, infowarrior. Or sir. And it's you who dodged the questions. And you obviously ignored Schadeaux's post as well. If you don't wish to apologize for whichever remarks you made in your edited post, that's your business. Like I said, start a new post, and we'll talk about that. |
Whats to discuss?You think Alex Jones is a whackjob....I don't. So I don't know how to carry on a discussion with you about it.
| QUOTE (Infowarrior @ Sep 20 2003, 04:21 AM) |
| Whats to discuss?You think Alex Jones is a whackjob....I don't. So I don't know how to carry on a discussion with you about it. |
Thank you.
We both agree on something. That we disagree.
A good place to end it.
| QUOTE (Cufflink @ Sep 20 2003, 04:30 AM) | ||
Thank you. We both agree on something. That we disagree. A good place to end it. |
Cuff
Infoboy,
Not only were you told not to refer Cufflink as Cuff, but Cufflink also said it was a good place to end. Knowing there is nowhere else to go with this discussion, your only replied was "Cuff".
Your purpose is make this personal, and cause further problems on this forum, and you are the only one that would suffer because of it. Your absurd behaviour definately is not welcomed here.
Not only were you told not to refer Cufflink as Cuff, but Cufflink also said it was a good place to end. Knowing there is nowhere else to go with this discussion, your only replied was "Cuff".
Your purpose is make this personal, and cause further problems on this forum, and you are the only one that would suffer because of it. Your absurd behaviour definately is not welcomed here.
mmm dunno what happened here but back to the video,well maybe Mr. President got hit by the lunar thingy,is it a full moon the night before this thing happened?? 
but i have to say that guy whom came with the question was a lil emotional though..... 
but i have to say that guy whom came with the question was a lil emotional though.....
| QUOTE (Engulf @ Sep 20 2003, 04:54 PM) |
| mmm dunno what happened here but back to the video,well maybe Mr. President got hit by the lunar thingy,is it a full moon the night before this thing happened?? but i have to say that guy whom came with the question was a lil emotional though..... |
Even if he was emotional its still no reason to be hauled off by cops
I have arrived for a short tour of duty, and what do I find?
A potentially decent political discussion on citizens' rights, turned into a useless catfight because of a simple broken link by the originator, and the membership of a buffoon with no political awareness whatsoever, both of them engaged in off-topic banter with the latter supported by a group of arselicking Bush sycophants who consider that a lynch mob is their answer to their country's decline to levels of stupidity unwitnessed before in its history.
If you want to post on this topic again, be prepared with ALL information about how these actions by the Bush admin will be increasingly common under the USA PATRIOT and Victory Acts, and also be aware of the Executive Order provisions for no-protest zones (uniquely engineered under this administration) so that retarded idiot George W Bush doesn't have to face any dissenters in person.
I cannot believe my countrymen can be such fools as the Bush sycophants who have reared their ugly heads in this Forum.
Cease your lives of video gaming and indolence, and get an education, fools.
A potentially decent political discussion on citizens' rights, turned into a useless catfight because of a simple broken link by the originator, and the membership of a buffoon with no political awareness whatsoever, both of them engaged in off-topic banter with the latter supported by a group of arselicking Bush sycophants who consider that a lynch mob is their answer to their country's decline to levels of stupidity unwitnessed before in its history.
If you want to post on this topic again, be prepared with ALL information about how these actions by the Bush admin will be increasingly common under the USA PATRIOT and Victory Acts, and also be aware of the Executive Order provisions for no-protest zones (uniquely engineered under this administration) so that retarded idiot George W Bush doesn't have to face any dissenters in person.
I cannot believe my countrymen can be such fools as the Bush sycophants who have reared their ugly heads in this Forum.
Cease your lives of video gaming and indolence, and get an education, fools.
| QUOTE (Infowarrior @ Sep 20 2003, 11:57 PM) | ||
Even if he was emotional its still no reason to be hauled off by cops |
yup,but i never said that that guy should be arrested for his emotional act
it's just one of those days that the leaders just want it thier ways i guess
| QUOTE (Engulf @ Sep 21 2003, 05:26 PM) | ||||
yup,but i never said that that guy should be arrested for his emotional act it's just one of those days that the leaders just want it thier ways i guess |
Bush shoulda been arrested for violating his 1st amendment rights!
| QUOTE (DeathlokTheDemolisher @ Sep 21 2003, 04:52 PM) |
| I have arrived for a short tour of duty, and what do I find? A potentially decent political discussion on citizens' rights, turned into a useless catfight because of a simple broken link by the originator, and the membership of a buffoon with no political awareness whatsoever, both of them engaged in off-topic banter with the latter supported by a group of arselicking Bush sycophants who consider that a lynch mob is their answer to their country's decline to levels of stupidity unwitnessed before in its history. If you want to post on this topic again, be prepared with ALL information about how these actions by the Bush admin will be increasingly common under the USA PATRIOT and Victory Acts, and also be aware of the Executive Order provisions for no-protest zones (uniquely engineered under this administration) so that retarded idiot George W Bush doesn't have to face any dissenters in person. I cannot believe my countrymen can be such fools as the Bush sycophants who have reared their ugly heads in this Forum. Cease your lives of video gaming and indolence, and get an education, fools. |
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| Cease your lives of video gaming and indolence, and get an education, fools. |
I couldnt have said it better.
| QUOTE (Infowarrior @ Sep 22 2003, 02:50 PM) |
| Bush shoulda been arrested for violating his 1st amendment rights! |
.....okay,suit you then
You know, this is ridiculous. Saruman or someone, can you please take down the picture of Bush with his mouth taped. I am really mad. I am all for expression. But, that is OUR leader, and I do respect him, seeing him like that, is insulting. Please take it down...
Reese
Reese
| QUOTE (reese2 @ Sep 22 2003, 05:51 PM) |
| You know, this is ridiculous. Saruman or someone, can you please take down the picture of Bush with his mouth taped. I am really mad. I am all for expression. But, that is OUR leader, and I do respect him, seeing him like that, is insulting. Please take it down... Reese |
He's your leader not mine.
Yes he is, and that doesn't matter. You should post your propaganda somewhere else.
| QUOTE (reese2 @ Sep 22 2003, 05:59 PM) |
| Yes he is, and that doesn't matter. You should post your propaganda somewhere else. |
No he isnt... he lost the popular vote by 500,000 And if was ever in my town I'd give him the middle finger salute,and by the way Shrub,Cheney,rumsfeld and Wolfowitz are the propaganda spreaders not me.
I am not getting angry about this, because that is what you want. Instead of coming to this board, and giving any well thought out posts, you have now turned it into a 'turn this place upside down' mentality. Call this a hunch, but you won't last long here.
All right I think you've made your point, infowarrior - I think everyone would appreciate it if you'd stop the flow of anti-US Government picture attachments and one-liners now, thanks. Protesting against George Bush is not the purpose of this forum.
| QUOTE (SaRuMaN @ Sep 22 2003, 06:07 PM) |
| All right I think you've made your point, infowarrior - I think everyone would appreciate it if you'd stop the flow of anti-US Government picture attachments and one-liners now, thanks. |
Well if everyone wouldn't attack me right off the bat,there wouldnt be a problem...i guess this place doesnt believe in freeom of expression
You see this a lot if you peruse other message boards on the 'net.
This board is not a publicly owned entity and as such is not subject to the cries of "freedom of speech/expression". The owner/admin has every right to set rules and guidelines for use. When I come here I do not expect "freedom of speech/expression". This is Saruman's board, he owns it, he operates it and as such I will respect his rules. The day Saruman comes to your house and "represses" you for your thoughts, then and only then, has your "freedom of speech/expression" been violated. It baffles my mind that people don't grasp this concept. We are only guests here. Play by the rules.
BTW, reese2, I totally agree, that picture is extremely tacky. Just student politics as usual.
This board is not a publicly owned entity and as such is not subject to the cries of "freedom of speech/expression". The owner/admin has every right to set rules and guidelines for use. When I come here I do not expect "freedom of speech/expression". This is Saruman's board, he owns it, he operates it and as such I will respect his rules. The day Saruman comes to your house and "represses" you for your thoughts, then and only then, has your "freedom of speech/expression" been violated. It baffles my mind that people don't grasp this concept. We are only guests here. Play by the rules.
BTW, reese2, I totally agree, that picture is extremely tacky. Just student politics as usual.
You know, I think years ago, before I started coming here, I did check out other places on the web, but this place for some reason is the one I have always liked best. I guess because we are all like family, and everyone is so insightful. Ever since being spoiled here, I don't think ANY other place would compare.
That pic, just bothered me for some reason.. I guess it was the last straw. After all, there were many others, attached with every post of his... Well, he gets what he deserves.
Hope your well rested and hurricane damage free now, PH..............
Reese
That pic, just bothered me for some reason.. I guess it was the last straw. After all, there were many others, attached with every post of his... Well, he gets what he deserves.
Hope your well rested and hurricane damage free now, PH..............
Reese
The country is at one of its most divided stages of all time within its people, and the Bush admin has to silence dissent.
Homeland Security, TIA, the PATRIOT Act and the Victory Act are all already being used to encompass crimes, misdemeanors and even basic expressions of freedom of speech in disagreement, to incarcerate people in the name of 'anti-terrorism'.
How many people are really happy to speak out against the government in public? Why are the tactics of fear and terror necessary at all?
Most people I talk to around the world actually believe 9/11 would not have happened if the the puppet Bush had not been appointed in the post-election coup.
Of course there is going to be more dissent, and of course they will want to shut it up. They don't want the truth in the hands of the people!
Homeland Security, TIA, the PATRIOT Act and the Victory Act are all already being used to encompass crimes, misdemeanors and even basic expressions of freedom of speech in disagreement, to incarcerate people in the name of 'anti-terrorism'.
How many people are really happy to speak out against the government in public? Why are the tactics of fear and terror necessary at all?
Most people I talk to around the world actually believe 9/11 would not have happened if the the puppet Bush had not been appointed in the post-election coup.
Of course there is going to be more dissent, and of course they will want to shut it up. They don't want the truth in the hands of the people!
What are you talking about now????????? You rattled on like a poet without rhyme, making no sense. You claim things, yet have no example of them to give. What people are in divided stages? USA? It's called democracy. Everyone has an opinion. But, we pull together just fine when we want to, and we are quite strong when that happens.
It is funny that you are telling us how we are, when if I am not mistaken, you are not even from this country. How do you know what goes on here? And what people do you have HERE that even tell you how they feel about Bush? And, I mean besides what you read on the internet, I want some flesh and blood people that actually speak to you, and tell you what it is like here, with Bush in office. I can guarantee that if you do talk to people here, they are fanatics, not level minded people. Which takes away from your whole point.
And one more thing, why are you going out of your way to try and get your self attacked here? You moan about how you are being treated here, even using that as your excuse to act idiotic, but don't you think you are leaving yourself wide open for what you get?
Reese
It is funny that you are telling us how we are, when if I am not mistaken, you are not even from this country. How do you know what goes on here? And what people do you have HERE that even tell you how they feel about Bush? And, I mean besides what you read on the internet, I want some flesh and blood people that actually speak to you, and tell you what it is like here, with Bush in office. I can guarantee that if you do talk to people here, they are fanatics, not level minded people. Which takes away from your whole point.
And one more thing, why are you going out of your way to try and get your self attacked here? You moan about how you are being treated here, even using that as your excuse to act idiotic, but don't you think you are leaving yourself wide open for what you get?
Reese
Yes, you're mistaken.
I don't care about being attacked by you, I am waiting to see if there is anybody with some substantive knowledge of US or world affairs to take your place. Real people know what is being said, and it sure isn't pretty poetry.
Examples of abuses of the PATRIOT Act and all the enabling legislation already through the Court are more detailed scrutiny of library and bookstore records, classifying someone caught with a pipe bomb as being in possession of a WMD, and classifying meth manufacturers as manufaturers of WMDs. It is just all encompassing garbage. Not to mention the no-protest zones when Bush is in town.
I get the feeling you are in the wrong place, not me. Government conspiracies seem to be the title at the top of the page, you misread the sign for a Denial room.
Is there anyone here who actually has read the PATRIOT act and its extensions?
I don't care about being attacked by you, I am waiting to see if there is anybody with some substantive knowledge of US or world affairs to take your place. Real people know what is being said, and it sure isn't pretty poetry.
Examples of abuses of the PATRIOT Act and all the enabling legislation already through the Court are more detailed scrutiny of library and bookstore records, classifying someone caught with a pipe bomb as being in possession of a WMD, and classifying meth manufacturers as manufaturers of WMDs. It is just all encompassing garbage. Not to mention the no-protest zones when Bush is in town.
I get the feeling you are in the wrong place, not me. Government conspiracies seem to be the title at the top of the page, you misread the sign for a Denial room.
Is there anyone here who actually has read the PATRIOT act and its extensions?
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| "The country is at one of its most divided stages of all time within its people, and the Bush admin has to silence dissent." |
Not even close, Einstein. The Nixon administration of the Vietnam era holds that inglorious distinction. The US hasn't even come close to encountering that level of divisionism and dissent.
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| "Examples of abuses of the PATRIOT Act and all the enabling legislation already through the Court are more detailed scrutiny of library and bookstore records, classifying someone caught with a pipe bomb as being in possession of a WMD, and classifying meth manufacturers as manufaturers of WMDs. It is just all encompassing garbage." |
Choosing to make a generalized statement regarding a massive piece of legislation is hardly objective, is it? True, much of it was rammed through Congress on the heels of a soul shaking tragedy, but it isn't the first time. Does Pearl Harbor ring a bell with you? You're such a knowledgeable history buff, I suggest you go back and refresh yourself to the laws that were enacted after that event. Many of those dealt with 'restricting' our freedoms and which also ostracized an entire race of people. They were measures deemed to be necessary at the time, similar to the laws being passed today. What's important to remember, however, is that many of them were later stricken and/or expunged, due in large part to the vocal opposition from the citizenry about their inherent unjustness and violation to constitutional freedoms. That is the beauty of democracy, flawed as it may be, but ever changing and adaptable.
There is already increasing opposition to portions of the Patriot Act, the perceived abandonment of individual freedoms does not sit well with your average American, however, there is still the need for greater security. Hard as it is to accept for some, long gone are some of the overly relaxed freedoms we've enjoyed and let make us complacent. Sacrifices have to be made, and will be allowed to a certain extent as long as the focus remains on justifiable threats. What won't be tolerated would be the dissolution of the basic tenant's of freedom, all those things the conspiracy crackpots claim to be extolling for our benefit. This particular stick only has so much bend to it, and the backlash that can and will occur if pushed beyond its limit would be a terrible thing to behold. There wouldn't be enough police or National Guardsmen available and/or willing to stand against the resultant demonstration or revolt.
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| "I get the feeling you are in the wrong place, not me. Government conspiracies seem to be the title at the top of the page, you misread the sign for a Denial room." |
No, you are mistaken. This is a forum whose primary focus is the paranormal. The 'conspiracy' category was intended to address those issues that deal with UFO's, aliens and other subjects related to the genre, not a political platform for those interested in spewing strongly biased, extremist political rhetoric (thanks Cuff). As has already been stated by the administrator, bashing George Bush (or any other specific government official) isn't the purpose of this forum.
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