I saw this video this morning,after making the post about Portuguese Discovers and this explains how the masonic or the illuminati people reached to europe and the directions they went.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpzZt5fXrXg...le%20antichrist

Another awsome video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMn0V6-c0Gk

thank you. ill look at it later.

Thank you for those video links EndyMion!

...the second one ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMn0V6-c0Gk ) also reminds me of "Operation Northwoods" from the early 60's... but now I wonder if a plan like this was used for 9/11??



Some info about the "Operation Northwoods" found here:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662

This is the PDF document here:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

ALL THIS makes you wonder about "WHAT IS REALLLY GOING ON??"

There is also a bit of information regarding "CIA and UFO's" in Nick Cook's "UFO's: The Secret Evidence" video from Oct 2005. (I am working on trying to get that shared..)

great videos!! got anymore??

To pass some time, check out Part 2 of this found here:

The Illuminati (Part 2) - The New World Order

*I am still waiting for Google Video to approve the video I uploaded *sigh* I should have just uploaded it as a link from YouSendit.com! *

it aint working

just outta curiousity has anyone read the book called angels and demons. by richard or robert langdon. i can't remember the first name. sorry. well anyway i just read the first cover and the back of what the book is about and i saw two very farmiliar words on it illmaniti(sorry im a bad speller)and vician. Which I read on here this thread. And I'd just thought i'd tell you guys about it. it also said that the author of this book and some other dude went out and investigated this and the evidence that they found to support this subject was very shocking and intriging.

The last one I posted?? yea, it does.. YouTube.com can be a bit "buggy" at times. If it does not play for you, click on the PAUSE button, wait a bit, then hit play..

BTW, I've posted this before elsewhere.. but thought to post it in here...

Another that makes one wonder...

you should post more videos

Sorry about that - If I am annoying you.. I was trying to help pass time waiting for more posts from God's Soldier..

But if you were not being sarcastic, or for others interested.. if you click on the last vid clip I just posted, you can then click on the RIGHT of the video, you will see a link called "MORE FROM THIS USER"
A list comes up there.. check out "YESTERDAY'S TECHNOLOGY" or "How to Rule the World" (shocking to see Bush JR on this!) just to name a few...

I'm serious!! I'm interested its amazing whats happening right under our noses

*whew!* cool ok.. lol

I've been around for some time (ie: not a gal in her twenties- but wish I were!) ... and only recently started to really open my eyes (finally) Thank heavens for the Internet!

There is really underhanded strange things going on.. for instance- look at what SONY recently did with over 30 of their music CD's - it planted a "root-kit" on your PC if you play the Music CD on your computer (the root kit was determined that they were SPYING on you, and often this root-kit would crash your computer!)
.. Thankfully because of Blogs and the internet blowing this sky high Sony got caught with their nasty deed!

But what other nasty deeds from governments and churches and corporations are really going on that we are not aware of?? and for HOW LONG? *scary!*

I've been now waiting 2 days for Google Video to approve the video I uploaded.. it's another video that is very interesting that I found and downloaded from BitTorrent.. I don't get Channel 4 from the UK here (my husband is from the UK and misses TV there) , and I found it interesting what Nick Cook presented in his lastest video.. the CIA seems to have had there hands in "some things".. but other things are clearly not from the government.. such as the lights over the White House in 1952 etc.

One review about Nick Cook's presentation found here:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/secretufos.htm

Did you know they are also brian washing us with subliminal messages!!

The Lost Bible

**These are my personal views and findings**

I advise you to read through all of it again because I had added a lot of sections to nearly every part (Most of the pieces are kept the same, but read through it all just in case you miss out on something.), there is a small about me section in the bottom. Also I’ve moved around some parts, so it’s chronologically accurate. Hope you have a good read.

What your going to read is my personal view and findings, if you don’t like it then post why, if you find any inaccuracies please post them down - I am here to read and understand as well. Also please post your own view. DO NOT post any irrelevant rants.

Lets go back when the Earth was just created, and the Heavens existed peacefully there was no such thing as sin, but there stood an angel constantly gaining support - why? Because he was very jealous of Jesus, Gods only son. He was very annoyed that God tells Jesus all the secrets of life. Lucifer wanted to know everything and yet he couldn’t, he shouted to other angels (note) reaching out to their ego’s “You will be the rulers of heaven and earth” “You will have knowledge of life and death” - but of course he lied to them - the first sin. He called up for a rebellion against those in heaven, and so the war started. Jesus called the remaining angels and easily defeated the opposing force. Lucifer apologized, begging for forgiveness… but that didn’t help him as the holy God knew his intentions of the future… he cast him down to Earth and made the angels that helped him look like the “Ugly and the damned” (Enoch).

So the now what is known as the Devil, was furious, he knew he has lost all respect in Heaven… he wanted to get back at God but he wasn’t going to announce himself as the devil, he was going to condition the people to believe false lies, commit sin and in turn worship him instead of God. From what was left of the aliens (fallen angels). He created this world that we know now, he created Satanism - he set down the church of Satan, he created a false Vatican - after Jesus did say “there will be many that come in my name, but not in my name”. But the devil made things too obvious to those who look for the truth, all you need is a keen eye to search for clues.



This is the great George Washington statue.



And this is just coincidence right? (Please meet Baphomet , Satanists idol )

That’s not all, it seems that the church has been poisoned as well, here are a few reasons why I left the church and the Vatican, and later I will explain what huge role it plays in the end of time. Anyway judge for yourself - Satan in the Vatican? :

-One of the commandments are : Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. - What this means? make no statue or any poster to admire, not even a statue of Mary or Jesus because we DON'T know what they look like, yet we see the Pope bow down to these images every day.

-The upside down cross in the Vatican, why i mean why hasn't anyone realized this in the Vatican, there are upside down crosses everywhere, it is a satanic symbol! eash.



-The bent cross, okay so you saw the upside down cross, yet the Vatican doesn’t stop their because the Pope insists to hold a bent cross - what does that symbolize? a devil symbol, it was used in the sixteenth century by Satanists. It shows a messed up figure as Jesus, which sorcerers used.



Notice the difference now with this normal cross.



-The fact that the Bible says there will be a virus within the religion, Satan will do anything to turn down the people of God, he exists whether you like it or not, he has conditioned the world in Every aspect to go against God. And the Lord has stood and awaited for those that seek the truth.

-“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color , and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, mystery, Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the Earth” -Revelation 17:4,5. The Vatican call themselves the Mother church.

These are just a few examples as there are way too many to bring up.

AGAIN i am not writing to change anyone’s view.

Now before I get to the Bible codes or anything of that sort i will try to clear out some events using the great and precious History (which sadly no one seems to seek). I am doing this to show you that events that are happening in the modern world are no different to that of Historical events, you just need to research it.

-9/11 - we all know it as one of the most tragic events in America, but seriously do you actually believe the government had absolutely nothing to do with it? All I am going to do is just mention TWO events in history VERY similar to that of September 11th:

- This one I need the History Buff’s help , but this is basically what happened, in one of the Roman cities a General (Don’t know his name) wanted to clear out all the barbarians of that area, but the people of that city did not want any war, they wanted to end the bloodshed - but the General was going to make sure he would win the peoples mind, he did this by burning one of the great shrines. People were furious as to who could have done this, and the general blamed it on the barbarians. Soon the war’s followed.

- This event is much more known as I hope we all know about it, it is the Reichstag fire in Germany, that everyone knows Hitler burnt to give him the enabling acts (Power over the military). What he did was burn the Reichstag and blame it on the communist, he threatened a communist to burn it. People again were furious, angered with a blind eye, they wanted to get revenge - this event greatly helped Hitler rise to power.

How they are similar? well think about it, the German people did not know who had burnt the Reichstag, and when the communist name was brought up - they stuck to that decision without thinking twice. It took the future Historians to decide who had really caused it fire, now this maybe happening with 9/11, but all I am asking you is to decide whether if there is ANY doubt that the President and FBI did not know about it.

-Aliens, i will make this a bit brief, aliens are fallen angels - read the Book of Enoch ( which was taken out of the Bible, I wander why? as it explained that aliens DID exist. This was not the only book taken out - so where books that Jesus explained that men AND women are equal and should be treated equally... but of course the great Vatican took it out. ). The greys in which most people see are the working force for the Reptilians, The reptilians are the fallen angels the annuki they all were fallen from the heavens in the rebellion. And it is when Satan also fell, and sought Earth for destruction, Earth was Gods new world for our race... Anyway you and i are well aware that most if not nearly all alien abductions end up by the abductees saying that the aliens told him/her that he was the chosen one to lead the world when it reaches its end. Well the abductees love this (not all of them please note) and they seek to contact these demons again to get a better understanding. What they don't get is the aliens are reaching out for there Ego... JUST as Hitler in Germany was able to fool the German people by reaching out to there Ego "You are the master race" "You are the chosen one" "You will be the rulers of the world" blah blah blah, and yet the people love and truly believe this, The devils happy knowing he got humans on his side when the end of time comes to fool the world.

Now the devil plans for everyone to worship him, and like I said he loves to give small clues that no one suspects, he is the creator of the new world order, and nearly all other satanic forces, Such as N.E.S.A.R.A and white knights. For now God has let him disrupt the world until he comes. But it is at the end of times when God gives Satan a full 3 and a half years to rule over the world, and it is then when that time limit is over the heavens open and strike the whole world (Now note, like I said I think the time is between now (2006) and 2009, most probable in 2009 why? Because think about it, a countless amount of cultures believe that the world will cease to exist in 2012. Hmm let’s see here, 2009 Satan (antichrist) fools the world. 2009 plus three and a half years is 2012, but yes I know stellar, this is just putting to ideas together… but again we will have to wait and see wouldn’t we?)

Damn I am moving ahead way to much, now I hope you all know about freemasons, and the 33 degree (Or do I have to make a topic about that?), well they are the rulers of America, and the world. Let’s just see some clues they have given us to search.



Now I am sure that everyone is aware of this right? What it represents is the all Seeing Eye, the pyramids represent a class – we are at the bottom, and masons are at the top (obviously). The righting at the bottom means: New Order of the Ages NOT the mistranslation of the “new world order”, as that would be Novus Ordo Mundi. But look at it again, order of the ages. The new order of the ages. It is Satan’s new order, his new rule for the world, anyone still remember the speech when George Bush publicly announced the new world order, and then it became a dominoes game, as presidents around the world did as well in the weeks to follow.



33rd degree is the highest.

* Blue Lodge or Craft Lodge

1° Entered Apprentice
2° Fellowcraft
3° Master Mason

* Scottish Rite

4° Secret Master
5° Perfect Master
6° Intimate Secretary
7° Provost and Judge
8° Intendant of the Building
9° Elu of the Nine (Master Elect of the Nine)
10° Elu of the Fifteen (Master Elect of the Fifteen)
11° Elu of the Twelve (Sublime Master Elected)
12° Master Architect (Grand Master Architect)
13° Royal Arch of Solomon (Master of the Ninth Arch)
14° Perfect Elu (Grand Elect Mason)
15° Knight of the East or Sword
16° Prince of Jerusalem
17° Knight of the East and West
18° Knight of the Rose Croix (Knight of the Rose Croix of H.R.D.M.)
19° Grand Pontiff
20° Master of the Symbolic Lodges (Master ad Vitam)
21° Prussian Knight (Patriarch Noachite)
22° Knight of the Royal Axe (also known as Prince of Libanus in both jurisdictions)
23° Chief of the Tabernacle
24° Prince of the Tabernacle
25° Knight of the Brazen Serpent
26° Prince of Mercy
27° Knight Commander of the Temple (Commander of the Temple)
28° Knight of the Sun
29° Knight of St. Andrew
30° Knight of Kadosh (Grand Elect Knight Kadosh)
31° Inspector Inquisitor (Grand Inspector Inquisitor Commander)
32° Master of the Royal Secret (Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret)
In the Southern Jurisdiction, a member who has been a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Mason for 46 months or more, is eligible to be elected to receive the "rank and decoration" of Knight Commander of the Court of Honour (KCCH)) in recognition of outstanding service. After 46 months he is then eligible to be elected to the 33rd Degree.
33° Inspector General (In the Southern Jurisdiction a recipient of the 33rd Degree is called an "Inspector General." He can be an "Inspector General Honorary," or a "Sovereign Grand Inspector General" if he is the head of the Rite in his "Orient," or state.)

- This is taken from Wikipedia, as there is no way I can remember every class.

Sorry if I move kind of fast its because I have so much information that I might miss out on something, that why I wait for users to post questions so I can answer them. Okay so you guys don’t believe that our precious US president has nothing to do with devil nor does any other president?



These are the three versions of El Diablo, the devils hand sign. Some of you might have picked up on that the right one bears a great resemblance to the deaf sign for “peace” but I urge you to on Helen Keller who created that deaf sign, and then you will notice that she herself was an occultist and Theosophist but that’s just coincidence she didn’t really do it purposely right?

That sign when flashed means: “I'm yours forever, Satan, heart and soul I'm yours”

PICTURES OF PRESIDENTS USING THE HAND SIGN, goto page 3 and look at my uploads.


Please look at the attachments, when Bush was asked why did he do that sign, he remarked it was because he was a Texas long horn fan, hm he never attended there, and I don't think Arafat did either, but Nahhh this is just coincidence.

I am still not finished, we got a long way.

PART 4

Note: these are my personal views and findings.

So what are these aliens (fallen angels) doing here what is there role? , well as I explained they were there in the rebellion - they actually believed that Lucifer can win over the Mighty, boy they were wrong. Well some of the fallen angels deserted the devil - not believing in him anymore with his lies, he has cast them down from heaven. But most of the fallen angels remained faithful to Lucifer, they believed that they can strike back at God. But again they know that the world will not follow there ways if they announce they are workers of the Devil. They play a role as “aliens”, they abduct people, they heighten there ego’s, they tell the people that there is no God and that THEY put us on Earth (not always the case - other times they say that “we are from another planet type of thing“, this makes the abductees thing twice about religion). Abductees in some occasions remember the alien entity telepathically saying to them words such as “I am I am”, hmm now wasn’t that what God said to Moses, are they mimicking God or is it just coincidence? (If you’ve read the book of Genesis then you should be familiar with the Adam and Eve story, it talks about a snake (type of reptile) that HAD Legs and hands, it was able to walk - but because of the sin he made Adam and Eve commit, he was stripped of the body parts.) Now it is theses reptilians that are the fallen, they created the Grey’s - the Grey’s are not fully biological, abductees tell us that there movement is somewhat robotic, there movements are stiff. It is because they are - well the best word for this is robots. Why did the reptilians create the Grey though? It is because the Reptilians needed a stepping stone for there operations, it is the greys that mostly abduct the humans (true in some cases these are reptilians). Now the devils got his own army, against that of Gods but it isn’t enough. He needs the world. And how will he do this? Well lets just say get ready for the biggest lie to be told in History.

Note: these are my personal views and findings.

What the devil will do is become the anti-Christ, when the anti-Christ comes he will announce the end of the new world order. He will tell the world everything about the illuminati and the new world order - he (The anti-Christ) will tell us how him and his army of aliens defeated the New world order, how he got rid of there military camps, how he prevented the outbreak of war, and now he will declare world peace - but in turn, when everyone is believing on what he’s saying and loving the fact that this “Jesus” is going to stop all wars, he is actually lying to them again. Think about it it’s the perfect plan, create the New world order, create yourself as “Christ that came back” and denounce your operations of the New world order - I ll tell you this, people will listen to him and believe him - after all he can make “fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” Revelation 13:13. And in today’s society Its enough to make the strongest of hearts bow down. So here he comes bringing world peace , he will make us come to terms with the aliens and will tell us that they are the “angels” - if you call those things angels then wow. But again, people will believe this - technology the world has never seen before will come when this “Jesus” arrives, people will love these new items but will forget the clear warnings from the bible, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." - Matthew 6:19-21. . He will create a one world religion a one world government - wait a second wasn’t that the goal of the New World Order?.

Part 5, is were it gets really interesting.

PART 5



“Hey that’s Jesus” is what your probably thinking, well why don’t you go to www.google.com and image search “Sananda”. Now your thinking “wow, that guy looks like Jesus”, the thing is that Jesus never did look like that, it was always the anti-Christ. We were conditioned to believe that Jesus looked like this, so that when the Anti Christ comes no one questions his looks. He calls himself Master Lord Sananda, or the Ascended master - to me personally, he’s a lying bastard . He is the so called leader of N.E.S.A.R.A, http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html - Hopefully you’ve heard of them, Lets see what they promise (Taken form the NESARA website) :

NESARA initiates PEACE IMMEDIATELY and
1. Provides forgiveness of credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt as remedy for bank and government frauds;
2. Abolishes the IRS; creates flat rate non-essential "new items only" sales tax revenue for government;
3. Initiates U.S. Treasury Bank System, which absorbs the Federal Reserve, and new precious metals backed U.S. Treasury currency;
4. Restores Constitutional Law;
5. Requires resignations of current administration to be replaced by Constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates until new elections within 120 days;
6. Requires the President Designate to declare "Peace" enabling international banking improvements to proceed smoothly; ends U.S. aggressive military actions immediately, and many more improvements.



Wait I just found out something, just as I am writing this. Go to their link, and look at the number points, can you see that tint of pink? Well copy all those number points on word and paste them there, notice how it turns out to have a yellow background. Why? Its because yellow is the first colour noticed by the eye. Anyway that’s just something I noticed as I was writing this, I guess they really want you to notice there points.

Initiates world peace immediately? Restores constitutional law? Provides forgiveness of credit card? Wow those sound way too good but why don’t they mention there real intentions? Those that are following the page Click on the Dove in the bottom Left. Look at the 2006 reports, NESARA ends fascism in America? NESARA saves our world and ends dangerous actions? These people are great! (Huge sarcasm). This NESARA will take over the New World Order, it is Satan’s latest plan, the announcement of NESARA, this so called act when announced will inform the world about the “evil doings” of the New World Order. It will be the largest announcement all shows on television will halt for the public announcement, and this “Jesus” come along with thousands of Ufo’s. He will act quickly making a scene of those who oppose him, and to those who oppose them he will call them “Devil worshipper” and “Liars” he will use the ad-hominem tactic (going against the man) he will attack them personally because he knows every human committed sin - and he can use that to his advantage “ How can you believe this guy when in 1978 he stole a phone?” - just an example of what he might do. Somewhere along the lines of his rule he will announce the Chip or the mark of the Beast? But do you really think he will say “put this chip on guys - trust me its good” , no he will make sure your conditioned to believe its something totally safe. He will tell us the chip is used instead of credit cards, it can also track all humans so that no son or daughter will go missing, it will make sure that locations of criminals and terrorists are known. Man that sounds good! Too bad that’s not the real intentions. George Bush would resign at his announcement, and all US military would cease for a small amount of time.

Now let’s sum up what you’ve read in a chronological order:

-Lucifer was the first Angel to rebel against God, it was the war in heaven.
-Satan rebels - and looses, he and his army of evil were no match for Gods mighty Angels.
-God casts them down to Earth and makes them look like the “Ugly and the damned”
-Satan is angered by this, him and his supporters want to get back at God for kicking them out.
-Satan wants to set his own “Kingdom” in Earth, after all he tried it in Heaven and failed badly (very badly - you don’t mess with the big G)
-Satan continually creates sin in the world, lies, murder, theft. (Here’s something for you to think about, if we did not know what a lie was - would we ever lie? Because it isn’t an option…
-The Devil and his army of army create themselves as the “aliens”, they fool God’s people with fake knowledge such as existence of other worlds, and that God never existed. From this they start to win over some people.
-Devil and his army create sculptures, build great and massive buildings as an assault on God, they make people bow down to these sculptures, when in fact they’re worshiping fake Gods.
-Jesus comes to this world teaching everyone about the word of God - it’s too late the majority did not listen (God has already spread his name through various prophets and men before). This would be the last time Jesus comes to Earth, the next time is when he destroys it, God has given the world many chances for his people to turn their ways. (NOTE: The devil cannot change the Bible in ANY WAY, the Bible is the word of God, BUT the devil can make his own version - and change\twist many of the texts, compare NIV Bible with the King James version. That’s why I would advise the King James as it keeps it authority.)
-Lucifer is not finished setting up his kingdom, he knows that the majority still believe in God, not him.
-He creates Satanism, a fake Vatican and employs a Pope to fill the role of the “talker for Gods people”, millions are fooled.
-Still though, the devils empire is not complete, he hasn’t finished getting anyone to follow him.
-His New World Order plan is already known by many, so he creates N.E.S.A.R.A and plays the role of the good guy.
-When N.E.S.A.R.A announces itself he will quickly make sure that the world know how he is.
-But still he needs support…

That’s why the Vatican for the Devil was so important, this is why he put the Vatican, to condition the vast millions, so when this fake wannabe “Jesus” comes, the Pope will call to all Christians to believe in him. Millions had loved the Pope before, so they will easily follow what he says. And that’s not all, people world wide would start to believe in him - even those that were atheists or even Satanists - would the REAL Jesus let this happen? (Yes but not on him, not a fake Jesus). But what happens to those that oppose him? Well I hate to say it but the Devil is smart. He made sure that without the chip - no one can buy a thing, no food no water - so to put it in terms, it’s a necessity for survival. Also if your caught without the chip by civilians, you will be called and seen as a Satanist (Again Lucifer made sure that its all planned out).

Statues will be made all around the world of this “anti-Christ”, and all those who oppose him will soon vanish, the Devil will be the closest he has ever gotten to take the Earth (Remember God has given him three and a half years to fully take it, but I don’t think Lucifer knows that.) And when that time comes, God’s army will come from the opened heaven (Note the seals would have been opened already, there are curses out there, natural disasters all from Gods anger to his people.)

What the, weres the rest! admins i need your help!

interesting to read all this, I hope you guys keep posting more information that connects,

We should all make a website called "TheConnectedTruth.com" or something like that, made out of collected information from people all around the world like videos, images, facts etc..*evidence*A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment. Which proves whats going on under our noses, and some predictions* that happend and will happen like that stuff from september 911, crop circles, 2012 and good videos from Jaime Maussan, uncensored bible etc... and have the community vote that it does connect with what is really going on in an orginized way, and well have several people researching deep into the subjects to conclude connection, and post the information so everyone can view the site, but look forward seeing evidence" images videos scientist etc.. A credible site made by a lot people specialized in researching in their topics stacking up all the information into one subject and connecting the subjects into one website.

I Would pitch in my part in providing this link that some people may or may not seen yet, I discovered it about a year or 2 ago: http://www.disclosureproject.org/
also i can make websites and could translate into spanish so we have it multiple languages.

LETS GET ORGANIZED PEOPLE THIS IS THE INTERNET

Very nice idea man!

...never mind...

Well i hope you post it later

mybe I should make a New Topic on my idea and who would jump into the project, because just like that my reply gets lost in this forum thru pages and pages.

Sorry God Soldier, just go on with your job.

I have a whole multitude of question for you. I will, however, only ask a couple at a time. I've noticed that most people won't read long posts.

How does Islam fit into your beliefs? Keep in mind, it is a much larger religion (in terms of people). I'm not saying it because I'm Muslim (I happen to be christian).

When you mentioned the Authority version of the Bible being the King James Version, it too is a re-write (Hence the name "King James Version" ). I was told that King James edited the Bible to his own liking (Lucifers influence). Are there any clues to an English Version of the ORIGINAL (or at least as far back as humanly possible) transcripts?

By the way, I saw in the news today that they are trying a man in an Afganistan court for converting from Islam to Christianity. They are seeking the death penalty. These same people will tell you that we (Christian and Muslim) worship the same God. Really?

I'll ask more questions later.

Hey, maybe ETs Dad was right. Maybe this whole string should be moved to the religion or the consperacy forum. I really like this topic and will continue to read it and add to it. I was just thinking that we're getting off topic with the whole UFO/ET thing. People who come to this forum, looking for UFO topics might start adding some (unwanted) negative comments.

I'm not trying to anger anyone. I'm just trying to be logical, that's all.

Comments anyone?

Well its all up to the admins, i wander why fluffybunny hasn't commented on this?

Pardon me GS, but this line was bothering me.

What if Mr. Bush suffered heart attack and died within this week ?

erm..yay?

Sorry i missed those questions, replying time!

How does islam fit into my beliefs? I can't and will not comment on this as i know it will offend loads of people (No it's not becuase i don't like them - i have islamic friends, and some fammily members - cousins etc)

Are you sure King James Version edited to his liking or are you mixing stories with King Henry? (Sorry i am just making sure) Reason why i believe in the King James Version is because like i said it keeps its authority here is an example:

KJV version:
LUKE 2:33:

"And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him"

NIV Version:

"The Child's father and mother marveled at what was said about him"

See what i mean? (If you still didn't catch it, NIV replaces Joseph with Child's father not mentioning his name - why?)

Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God.

thats a good idea, id be for it



theyre seeking death?!?!?! wow



good posts everyone keep it up this is very interesting

I will get back with you on the editting comment. It seems that I have homework to do.

Good for us

Now GS I must ask you something,that inverted cross isn't the St Peter cross? when he was crucifice with the head down to the ground.

Well I never studied/researched (although I follow up discussions on the matter) on UFO's (which is the main subject of this thread,no?), and so what I am going to say is just what I think (which may be wrong) is the most bealievable and likely theory.

truthorder ' said that these 'alien' beings are ourselves in the future! They are travelling back in time. Wouldnt this be possible? I think that with the rate tech is advancing, this will be possible in less than a hundred years.

However, I am suprised why noone followed on this subject...wh yare we ignoring the "most likely" theories and following on the "less" likely?

Anyhow, very itneresting posts, with very interesting videos...."food for thought" as one of you guys said in the beggining

That aliens could be ourselves or the illuminati people generation in the future,I said illuminati because almost people trhough History that discovered or invented something very useful for mankind had relations with mason and with those illuminati.

I don't know about any hidden messages in the bible but I don't trust this guy;

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And I don't trust this guy.

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I don't trust it when this guy and that guy alledgely meet up together.

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With many lies and many false people,the better we have to do is to not trust in anyone,we must find this by ourselfs and understand it in our own way,you will realize that you will reach to what we are talking,just putting the pieces together and the results is this.

Yeah Knowlegde is power.

WOWOWOWOW

People you must see this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SrxgDZM4cI&search=illuminati

This video scares a lot about them,and it have a lot of things because it have 21 minutes.

Well i think its best if someone does create a new topic, loads of great videos are getting lost within the pages.

Sorry i missed this question, the cross is actually not inverted its still a normal cross, goto any satanist website and you will see an upside down cross - why because it marks a rejection of Jesus Christ. They mock his name.

Just in case someone has missed it all the latest version of "The Lost Bible" can be found at page 8.

phew...Thank god these people aren't going to be in leadership positions.
Hey..what do mean they are?
We've got problems.

They are already in leadership position,they are planning the III World War as they planned the attack of Iraq with the 9/11,this is getting serious.

GS thanks for your explanations.

These were posted earlier, but it was from a slow website and divided into 8 parts.
So here they are in google video in 2 parts.
Part One - 44 mins
Part Two - 1h 10m

Pretty interesting
In part two you even see a supposedly real Exorcism, freaky stuff

edited to add time

.. and I apologize for interjecting some of the video links on this thread. But because of this thread, and the various things you and others have brought up, expanded things a bit - Things I never realized..until this thread started.

It's like a big huge puzzle.. like a big secret huge puzzle and trying to "fit" these pieces ALL together. There is a big possibility of all things being involved: The government(s) (not just the USA), "the secret society", the various religions, the various corporations, the various military from various countries and their technologies and more.. and last but NOT least the true UFO's and / or Aliens.

The many YEARS of "secret projects or operations or cover ups" that have gone on behind our backs while we've been sleeping is absolutely mind boggling.

The more I research, the more I wonder.. "What the h3ll is really going on?"

Somehow I feel like I am just a "pawn" in the middle of someone's worldly game...

Yes and its easier to the people understand better this things by videos than reading,the videos are most realistic.
In this thread we have texts and videos that fortunately shows both things connected,so people can't say that isn't true,even if isn't like this I'm sure that kind of things are happening badly today,and it will have a deeply negative impact to the world.

That's a good point.
I feel that if full disclosure ever happened; it would be much more complicated than say "yep the aliens are visiting us"
God knows what it could be though.
Although, you could construct quite a plausible case in favor for the ‘aliens are already in control’ hypothesis.
An Intelligent takeover bid.
If true, we'd have never seen it coming. We've created so many blind spots in our culture; blind spots in our science, blind spots in our media, military, human hierarchy system etc. A place where the aliens could operate with impunity.

I can safely say these aliens are already taking advantage of certain blind spots. eg taking us at night so most people assume they’re dreaming. Manipulation of memory.

Great video and thank you for posting this one as well!

BTW, I never voted for Bush Jr. and in the last election, I finally got my behind up and VOTED for the OTHER guy.. although we did not have much of a choice, but I did not want Bush. (yea.. just your typical US West state did NOT want Bush)

I still have NO idea how Bush won.. Did you know that in this last election year that Bush won- the same year I finally VOTED?? It was one of the biggest "turn outs in voting" since the 60's!??

That tells us something.. don't know what but it DOES.

There is a saying in the "business" world -- "That for every complaint heard, there are at least 10 complaints that go unheard" ie: Many don't take the time to bother to give their complaint .. but I did.

Two days after Bush won this last election, I again, got off my "behind" took 3 hours to write up a letter and faxed the White House my 2 cents. Don't know if he read it.. but it is a "complaint" and I betcha' there are at LEAST 10 complaints to mine that have gone "unheard"

*I still wonder how the heck Bush won this last election!*

.. it all hits toooo close to "home" for me..

Thank you for wording this far better than I ever could.

Thanks.

Now about the video I didn't understood that ritual and the men was talking I didn't get what he was saying about the ritual,he said about the Pope and Devil that was the only things I got.
Can someone explain??
My ears aren't good for english language.

so why did john kerry lose the election??

Not sure- outdated "electorial voting system" or the worst thought, something underhanded went on?? I have NO idea.. or maybe the "swing against Kerry" was something his wife said towards the last days before voting.. I just don't know.

.. and like I said, there was NOT a whole lot for us to choose from right?

But it was one of the BIGGEST voting year turn-outs since the 60's and Bush still won.

Didn't really matter that Kerry lost the election, both him and bush are part of the same "club", the Skull and Bones, supposedly part of the american Illuminati. So they answer to the same people, and those people are NOT the american public

See my two video links above for more info.