Man, i haven't posted in like 2 years, it been a long time. Well i'am going to renew my findings to you guys ( and i will say this again just like before - i do not post to change people minds or to convert them to any way or liking - it is my view of the world and how it goes around). Well anyway lets get back to buisness, Those of you who know me will Know iam Christian Catholic, an Assyrian (NOT A Syrian). I DO NOT FOLLOW THE CHURCH though, i follow God and ofcourse i've commited sin - no one is perfect (btw iam well aware of how people view God in these forums - but meh, sue me.), Well guess your wandering why i don't follow the Church let me just put down 3 small reasons:

-One of the commandments are : Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. - What this means? make no statue or any poster to admire, not even a statue of mary or jesus becuase we DON'T know what they look like, yet we see the Pope bow down to these images every day.

-The upside down cross in the vatican, why i mean why hasn't anyone realized this in the vatican, there are upside down crosses everywere, it is a satanic symbol! eash.



-The fact that the Bible says there will be a virus within the religion, Satan will do anything to turn down the people of God, he exists wether you like it or not, he has conditioned the world in Every aspect to go against God. And the Lord has stood and awaited for those that seek the truth.

AGAIN i am not writing to change anyones view.

Now before i get to the Bible codes or anything of that sort i will try to clear out some events using the great and precious History (which sadly no one seems to seek).

-Aliens, i will make this a bit brief, aliens are fallen angels - read the Book of Enoch ( which was taken out of the Bible, i wander why? as it explained that aliens DID exist. This was not the only book taken out - so where books that Jesus explained that men AND women are equal and should be treated equally... but ofcourse the great Vatican took it out. ). The greys in which most people see are the working force for the Reptillians, The reptillians are the fallen angels the annuki they all were fallen from the heavens in the rebellion. And it is when Satan also fell, and sought Earth for destruction, Earth was Gods new world for our race... Anyway you and i are well aware that most if not nearly all alien abductions end up by the abductee saying that the aliens told him/her that he was the chosen one to lead the world when it reaches its end. Well the abductees love this (not all of them please note) and they seek to contact these demons again to get a better understanding. What they don't get is the aliens are reaching out for there Ego... JUST as Hitler in germany was able to fool the German people by reaching out to there Ego "You are the master race" "You are the chosen one" "You will be the rulers of the world" blah blah blah, and yet the people love and truly believe this, The devils happy knowing he got humans on his side when the end of time comes to fool the world.


Well iam going to write the rest tommorow - iam going to sleep soon, its 2:04 am here. Anyway i will stay online for a bit.

Oh yeah and trust me when iam finished, this is going to be a Huge read.

I have always believed something to this affect. I'm a christian, but I also believe that God isn't a single devine entity. I believe that God is actually a civilization not on this earth.

In my opinion, Religion through the years is kind of like when you have a room full of people and you wisper something in one person's ear; then instruct everyone to pass the message around the room and when it gets back to you it's a totally different story.

Anyway, the "God" civilization chose a planet (at that time, infested with large reptiles). God didn't like the lizards, so it used it's might (military) to banish (kill) the Dinosaurs (OOPS! I mean reptiles). God then planted humans (made man in his own image) on earth and the rest is history.

The whole dispute between good (God) and evil (Devil), in my opinion, was basically a mutiny by some of the top leaders on planet "God". The mutiny failed and the traitors were banished to another planet (Hell). People from Hell hate us because we are "gods" children. They've done many things through history to influence our destruction. It's more fun (and challenging) to influence US to kill ourselves, rather than them physically showing up and slaughtering us.

I did not post this to irritate any religious people out there. Believe it, or not, I believe in God and I worship him. I just don't believe in the "organized" part of religion.

Disclamer: I used the words God, Devil, Hell and other terms as figurative terms. I did not intend for them to be the actual names of planets and races of people. I also have absolutely NO proof of any of this. These are just theories that I've had for many years. That's all.

Nice post, but i have to disagree on your view of God. To me he is a single devine entity, but i will explain this tommorow

Let me just take this time to tell people that please do NOT post anything stupid like users did on my last topics, if you have something smart or logical or if you want to dispute, then please do i don't mind. I respect all posts like this one. But don't make it like before were posts ended talking about "star treck" (or however you spell it). I am not an admn, nor am i trying to act like one but i see it just being rude when people post irrelevant rants.

Not to burst your bubble, but you say you are a Christian. The complete basis of Christianity is the Holy Trinity. Three separate "beings". Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Thats not proof.



Just as much as Star Wars, Star Trek, Stargate, hell, any scifi show today explain that...

Yes it is proof, however much of the bible and the books which belong in it (and arent) can be interpreted in many different ways.

for me the bible is the most misinterpreted & misunderstood, book in the world, not to mention edited and censored, like what was mentioned before so its difficult to believe everything i read from it.

I myself was raised in a christian environment, i declared jesus my savior when i was 8 or so. After attending church and a christian school until 10th grade I declared myself non christian at the age of 16. I simply realize i was not thinking on my own along with 90% of the rest of the world. I Refuse to blindly believe in something that is supposed to base weather you go to heaven or hell. I refuse to be told how to think by the government and the church.

I am glad that there are others in this world like me (LOL). Those who chose to open their eyes and see for themselves i salute you.

I do believe in god, i do not believe in the bible.

also common teaching during jesus' time was reincarnation and there are many refrences to this in the bible and in the books which were taken out of the bible. (just fyi) dont believe me? check for yourself...

i also thought it was interesting that you think aliens are fallen angels. who knows maybe their just angels? maybe both? there are versus regarding people

thought this was really interesting this guys a linguist of ancient languages. and speaks of what he interpreted from the bible. goes along with what you said, kinda but much more descriptive. and i do believe that humans were genetically engineered, by aliens(or god before reading this) never had it summed up with versus to intermingle.
http://experts.about.com/q/UFOs-Aliens-213...information.htm

Going by Enoch all angels in the flesh would appear to be aliens, not just the fallen ones.
Also reference the biblical texts used. Angels seem to travel through the air while demons seem to walk on the ground.

Thy kingom come, they will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
That does seem to indicate a form of extraterrestrial government doesn't it?
Once there was no differentiation between God and the angels. They were all just God the group, the Elohim.
Perhaps the more we learn and can understand there will be additional differentiations made.
It might be possible that those who were perceived as being God could be another form of life that also love God and perceive God differently from ourselves then and today.

The lost bible?..........OOHHHHHHHHH you mean The Best Of Uncle John's Bath Room Reader
it's a good book you guys should read it some time
O and on my serious side how can people belive in christianty but not belive in greek mitholgy I find greek mytholgy more intresting PICTURE THIS in stead of going to church we would make sacrefices to the gods like killing sheep.(HMMMMM comparing boreing church KILLING SHEEP boreing church KILLING SHEEP) what would you rather do?

I would rather go to church , why would I want to kill a sheep for?

the topic is from the lost bible

PSSSSHHHHHHHH you dont want to piss the gods off do you they well throw lighting bolts at you if u dont sacrifice sheep

I see that this topic is again turning into childs talk, so i will only answer back to those who were serious.




They are three seperate manifestations - all of them are the one true God in the end.

When do you think the end will be??

OR it means that, we should spread the word of God in the World.

And by reading the book of Enoch it talks about, those angels that were fallen, and those that are Gods personal army.

And Stellar iam well aware of your views of the Bible, to you it just nonsense - but this is the heart of my finding, i can see why you really try to oppose my ideas though.

Gods army is alive and well..........

so were stuck in between a war between good and evil

When God wants it to be, BUT i truly think its between now and 2009 we will know that were living in it, if nothing happens, i will gladly make a topic called the "Laugh at Gods_Soldier topic". But hey, God can call events to happen when he wants, and Jesus does tell us that the K.O.G will come like a thief in the night, remember he says the K.O.G - so its probable that when Satan has great contol of this world he will think that he can stand up against those in Heaven, yet the KOG comes at a time when Satan least expects it. and with the Power of heavens he crushes this evil.

I kinda feel sorry for the bad people living today...they dont know what awaits them

PART 2.

Lets go back when the Earth was just created, and the Heavens existed peacefully there was no such thing as sin, but there stood an angel constantly gaining support - why? Because he was very jealous of Jesus, Gods only son. He was very annoyed that God tells Jesus all the secrets of life. Lucifer wanted to know everything and yet he couldn’t, he shouted to other angels (note) reaching out to their ego’s “You will be the rulers of heaven and earth” “You will have knowledge of life and death” - but of course he lied to them - the first sin. He called up for a rebellion against those in heaven, and so the war started. Jesus called the remaining angels and easily defeated the opposing force. Lucifer apologized, begging for forgiveness… but that didn’t help him as the holy God knew his intentions of the future… he cast him down to Earth and made the angels that helped him look like the “Ugly and the damned” (Enoch).

So the now what is known as the Devil, was furious, he knew he has lost all respect in Heaven… he wanted to get back at God but he wasn’t going to announce himself as the devil, he was going to condition the people to believe false lies, commit sin and in turn worship him instead of God. From what was left of the aliens (fallen angels). He created this world that we know now, he created Satanism - he set down the church of Satan, he created a false Vatican - after Jesus did say “there will be many that come in my name, but not in my name”. But the devil made things too obvious to those who look for the truth, all you need is a keen eye to search for clues.



This is the great George Washington statue.



And this is just coincidence right? (Please meet Baphomet , Satanists idol )

Stay tuned for Part 3.

what is your veiw on "the passion"?? what do you think of the devil in there ??

Not sure what you mean by "the passion", can you explain it please?

The passion of Christ .....the movie that came out in 2004

Hmm never really thought about that, guess i should do some research - but i did find it wierd that they created Jesus in that way, those who have read the Bible know that there is not one description of him, NOT ONE. So he can be black or white or both (dont ask). Why is that important? i will explain it later, lets just say the Devil condtioned us to believe that he looks like this all these years, remember the pictures you see every were of him? he's white, long hair - you know what i mean, and i bet you any money that when the anti christ makes himself known - he will look like that. Satan smiles.

Soldier do you believe Christ is here fighting the battle with satan..or the aliens?

Nope, Christ is not doing anything right now... he is waitiing to see those that he can trust, he is awaiting the end of time when he come back not to declare world peace as the antichrist would, but to declare all evil banished, to take revenge on those that worshiped the devil.

He's does though talk in our hearts but it is a tiny voice that you need to understand to be heard, why is it when we do something bad we always have this tiny tiny voice saying don't do it. Yet we don't listen, but after all Jesus did say it is much easier to commit sin, that to walk through heaven.

Belief, not fact.



Belief, not fact.

See where I'm going with all this? How about you start indicating that its all simply your belief, isntead of trying to pass it off as fact?



Why would the son of god have to wait to see who he can trust?

#1 I'd like to say please go on, it seems very interesting of what you speak, its good to be open minded to the bible and life, you seem to have done your research well please continue when you have time.

#2 Why do you use that name? "Gods_Soldier" if you care to explain.

Why do you christians have to be so negative the world is not going to end....at least not in are lifetimes. And to the guy who said gods army is alive and well where was gods army when the nazi's were killing off 6 million jew's????

Your right Stellar right now this is based on belief but remember fact cannot arise without belief, when i continue in part 3 you will see what i mean.

What are you talking about belief cannot arise without fact
you have to have a fact to belive in something or else where did the belife come from

Read what i said , you twisted my words.

So until this is all fact, please, identify it as belief.

I did.

haha du'h

Until today, I've never seen that pic with the upside down cross pictured with the Pope until I read Gods Soldiers first post on this thread.

And now I just finished watching this interesting video someone made and uploaded here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgB5IsaxSNM

It has a lot of various pics and meanings in this video, but I ALSO saw that same pic and another one with the upside down cross pictured with the Pope on this video..

*very strange and makes one wonder!*

PART 3

Now the devil plans for everyone to worship him, and like I said he loves to give small clues that no one suspects, he is the creator of the new world order, and nearly all other satanic forces, Such as N.E.S.A.R.A and white knights. For now God has let him disrupt the world until he comes. But it is at the end of times when God gives Satan a full 3 and a half years to rule over the world, and it is then when that time limit is over the heavens open and strike the whole world (Now note, like I said I think the time is between now (2006) and 2009, most probable in 2009 why? Because think about it, a countless amount of cultures believe that the world will cease to exist in 2012. Hmm let’s see here, 2009 Satan (antichrist) fools the world. 2009 plus three and a half years is 2012, but yes I know stellar, this is just putting to ideas together… but again we will have to wait and see wouldn’t we?)

Damn I am moving ahead way to much, now I hope you all know about freemasons, and the 33 degree (Or do I have to make a topic about that?), well they are the rulers of America, and the world. Let’s just see some clues they have given us to search.



Now I am sure that everyone is aware of this right? What it represents is the all Seeing Eye, the pyramids represent a class – we are at the bottom, and masons are at the top (obviously). The righting at the bottom means: New Order of the Ages NOT the mistranslation of the “new world order”, as that would be Novus Ordo Mundi. But look at it again, order of the ages. The new order of the ages. It is Satan’s new order, his new rule for the world, anyone still remember the speech when George Bush publicly announced the new world order, and then it became a dominoes game, as presidents around the world did as well in the weeks to follow. Sorry if I move kind of fast its because I have so much information that I might miss out on something, that why I wait for users to post questions so I can answer them.
Okay so you guys don’t believe that our precious US president has nothing to do with devil nor does any other president?



These are the three versions of El Diablo, the devils hand sign. Some of you might have picked up on that the right one bears a great resemblance to the deaf sign for “peace” but I urge you to on Helen Keller who created that deaf sign, and then you will notice that she herself was an occultist and Theosophist but that’s just coincidence she didn’t really do it purposely right?

That sign when flashed means: “I'm yours forever, Satan, heart and soul I'm yours”

Please look at the attachments, when Bush was asked why did he do that sign, he remarked it was becuase he was a texas long horn fan, hm he never attended there, and i don't think arafat did either, but nahh this is just coincidence.

I'am still not finished, we got a long way.

Very nice find, great video but i feel i know most of that - but i realize some of the facts are fake, like the picture of the map, he drew those streets if you look closely, but wow i am glad other people are there with me.

Gods Soldier! Those pics were also in that video I just posted too!

*I have the chills now*

lol do you know the guy? i 'd like to contact him.

so were on the bottom of the pryamid...how do we get to the top??

No.. I wish I did. The only person related to this upload is a person named "Toumba" and you can send him a private message if you sign up with YOUTube.com (I have signed up, it's free)
He might know more details or he may have even created this.. I am not sure.

Earlier you mention the year 2009 ... (MORE CHILLS) The young boy named Boriska, predicts mammoth catastrophes in 2009. Boriska apparently is an Indigo Child.

You can find two articles about him here:

http://english.pravda.ru/society/anomal/29.../9151-boriska-0

I thank you greatly for posting this
but this might sound weird but do not be scare for they will suffer sadly and the true believers will be taken up in heaven. people say the end is near and i do believe it is near
look at all the signs and i think the holy god who created everything will come before things get to bad

33rd degree is the highest.

* Blue Lodge or Craft Lodge

1° Entered Apprentice
2° Fellowcraft
3° Master Mason

* Scottish Rite

4° Secret Master
5° Perfect Master
6° Intimate Secretary
7° Provost and Judge
8° Intendant of the Building
9° Elu of the Nine (Master Elect of the Nine)
10° Elu of the Fifteen (Master Elect of the Fifteen)
11° Elu of the Twelve (Sublime Master Elected)
12° Master Architect (Grand Master Architect)
13° Royal Arch of Solomon (Master of the Ninth Arch)
14° Perfect Elu (Grand Elect Mason)
15° Knight of the East or Sword
16° Prince of Jerusalem
17° Knight of the East and West
18° Knight of the Rose Croix (Knight of the Rose Croix of H.R.D.M.)
19° Grand Pontiff
20° Master of the Symbolic Lodges (Master ad Vitam)
21° Prussian Knight (Patriarch Noachite)
22° Knight of the Royal Axe (also known as Prince of Libanus in both jurisdictions)
23° Chief of the Tabernacle
24° Prince of the Tabernacle
25° Knight of the Brazen Serpent
26° Prince of Mercy
27° Knight Commander of the Temple (Commander of the Temple)
28° Knight of the Sun
29° Knight of St. Andrew
30° Knight of Kadosh (Grand Elect Knight Kadosh)
31° Inspector Inquisitor (Grand Inspector Inquisitor Commander)
32° Master of the Royal Secret (Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret)
In the Southern Jurisdiction, a member who has been a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Mason for 46 months or more, is eligible to be elected to receive the "rank and decoration" of Knight Commander of the Court of Honour (KCCH)) in recognition of outstanding service. After 46 months he is then eligible to be elected to the 33rd Degree.
33° Inspector General (In the Southern Jurisdiction a recipient of the 33rd Degree is called an "Inspector General." He can be an "Inspector General Honorary," or a "Sovereign Grand Inspector General" if he is the head of the Rite in his "Orient," or state.)

Prime minister Blair is 33rd degree, i think it was also mentioned in the video - can't remember. Now to go up in ranks you have to join the freemasons, hopefully you don't

Erm this may sound off topic but how do i change Country in my user description as i recently moved to Arizona, USA.

I have to say, Wow! A lot has happened sinse I went to bed. Many more posts. That's a good thing! There's a few things that I'd like to touch upon. But first, the DISCLAIMER: I have absolutely no proof of any of what I'm about to type. It is merely my belief, and by the way, it IS possible to believe in something without having proof or fact. Area 51, I believe that you are a very intelligent person.

First, I like a little more clarification on how to see the Goat-head devil guy in George Washington's Statue. If you are refering to the hand gestures, then you're really reaching for it, in my opinion, of course.

One of the constant criticisms that I always face when I share my beliefs with anyone is: "If you believe in God, then where is he, and why is there so much suffering in the world.....(Yadda yadda ya)......." I think Area 51 also mentioned this

" Why do you christians have to be so negative the world is not going to end....at least not in are lifetimes. And to the guy who said gods army is alive and well where was gods army when the nazi's were killing off 6 million jew's????"

Well (once again, my opinion) If you approach this whole issue like you would with a parent trying to raise a child (a very stubborn child, at that). Look at the stories from the Old Testament. God (parent world) took a very active role in our upbringing. When we got too out of hand, he punished us (Noah and the flood, Sodom and Gomorea, and so on). This time period of a literal "punishing" God lasted for a couple of thousands of years. There came a time when God (just like a parent) said,

"This kid is just not getting it. It's time to change my tactics. I'm going to have to let this child of mine learn by his own mistakes. I will continue to monitor his actions, and I'll step in when my child has finally gone too far."

World War II was a travisty. I think everyone will agree with that (except maybe the Iranians). But, we (us humans) finally handled the situation. That's why we didn't see "Gods Army".

I think we (earth) are heading down that road again. The road to self-destruction. We've traveled down that road before. I think there's a certain point down that road, where "God's Army" will have to bail us out. I honestly don't think we've reached that point in the road yet. We might in our lifetime, who knows?

Just my thoughts.

i agree with your thoughts

I am not so concerned about myself but of my 3 children. My twin boys are only 2.5 years old. *sometimes a parent feels guilty having brought children into this world*

But then again, I thought things were "near" when I saw with my own eyes, Mount St Helen's blew her top off , then later when with the Gulf War, then when WE witnessed a very strange UFO in 1992 right in my neighborhood, and again later with the war in Iraq, then the Tsunami in 2004, then the Katrina Hurricane...

I also had a "end of the world dream" which was my first ever (and I never have dreams like this!) but I still remember it very clear as though I dreamt it yesterday. The morning I woke up from this dream, I hear the news of the terrible earthquake in Pakistan Oct 2005.

Sometimes I feel there is something really big that's going to happen - moreso in the last 8 months - And reading the recent news that Saturn's moon has water sparked that "feeling" a bit more. I don't know why..

actually no





shouldnt this be in the religious section ?



actually this has already been discussed in the conspiracy section





again a whole section that should be in the religious section

it has nothing to do with UFO's or extraterrestrials, as you believe they fell out of heaven and not outer space

Dont be scare for your children!! They are so pure and innocent and are loved by god

I am getting there dont you worry.