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GEORGE W. BUSH…KEEPING IT IN THE FAMILY:
ANOTHER COCAINE SNORTING LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE

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I have been reading a copy of Fortunate Son, the book which exposes the truth about George W. Bush, the Governor of Texas, and the front runner to become President of the United States in the year 2000.

This son of the drug-taking, drug-running, paedophile, serial killer, and former President, George Bush (see The Biggest Secret), used his family and Illuminati connections to have the book withdrawn by the publisher to prevent his hypocrisy and lies being exposed to his potential voters.

Some 90,000 copies were withdrawn from sale by the publisher, Thomas Dunne Books, because it highlights information that George W. Bush was forced to perform community service in 1972 after being caught in possession of a controlled substance, cocaine.

The author, J. H. Hatfield, has been vilified for writing the book and yet, as a researcher myself, I find his attention to detail and his acknowledgement of the nature and reliability of sources to be first class. There are 52 pages of small-type source notes. This guy did his homework.

Hatfield details how sources told him that Bush was ordered to do community service with an operation called Project P.U.L.L., a program for poor African-American youths in Houston, Texas. This is not disputed by Bush and, indeed, he has spoken about it publicly as used his “caring” gesture to support his presidential campaign, ironically.


We are asked to believe that George W. Bush, a hard-drinking, hard playing, romeo, driving his expensive sports car and flying for the Texas Air National Guard, suddenly dropped everything, worked voluntarily for this charity, and then suddenly left the project and went back immediately to the above lifestyle once again as if nothing had happened. Yeah, and Bill Clinton is a celibate nun.

Hatfield was alerted to the cocaine story just as his book was being completed. He read a story in the internet magazine, Salon, which reported on August 25th 1999 about allegations that Bush was “ordered by a Texas judge to perform community service in exchange for expunging his record showing illicit drug use and that this service was performed at the Martin Luther King, Jr., Community Center in Houston.”

Hatfield followed up the story through sources close to Bush, who had helped with other earlier sections of his book. They confirmed to him that the basis of the story was indeed true, but Bush had not been sent to work at the Martin Luther King Jr. Community Center. Instead his community service was performed in Project P.U.L.L, of which his father, George Bush, was a “benevolent supporter”.

Madgelean “Madge” Bush (no relation), the director of the Martin Luther King Jr. Center denied, quite rightly, that Bush junior had ever attended her establishment, but she refused point blank to answer Hatfield’s follow up question:” Did Governor Bush perform court-ordered community service at ANOTHER agency in Houston or elsewhere in Texas other than the Martin Luther King, Jr., Center?”

There was a long pause, Hatfield reports in his book, and then she said:

“No comment because Madge Bush is not gonna talk to you…I am not getting off into anything about George except he’s the governor of Texas. That’s all I’m gonna say about George W. Bush”. With that she hung up.

Hatfield next called a former Bush classmate at Yale University where Bush, like his father and grandfather, had been a member of the infamous Illuminati bloodline operation called the Skull and Bones Society (see The Biggest Secret, And The Truth Shall Set You Free, etc.). This classmate, a family friend who had partied with Bush in the sixties and seventies in Houston, had contributed information to Hatfield for other sections of the book which proved to be accurate.

Hatfield asked him if George W. had volunteered to work for Project P.U.L.L. in 1972 or if he had been ordered to do so by the courts. Bush’s classmate replied:

“I was wondering when someone was going to get around to uncovering the truth. Evidently, you kind of glossed over it in the book (the manuscript at that time) like a lot of other reporters have done in their newspaper and magazine articles. It doesn’t fit, does it?”

“George W. was arrested for possession of cocaine in 1972, but due to his father’s connections, the entire record was expunged by a state judge whom the elder Bush helped to get elected. It was one of those “behind closed doors in the judge’s chambers” kind of thing between the old man and one of his Texas cronies who owed him a favor. In exchange for successfully completing community service at Project P.U.L.L, where Bush senior was a heavy contributor and honorary chairman, the judge purged George W.’s record.”

When pressed for more details, the source said:” I’ve told you enough already. There’s only a handful of us that know the truth. I’m not even sure his wife knows about it…Just keep digging. But keep looking over your shoulder.”

The very same story was told to Hatfield, he says, by another longtime Bush friend and “unofficial political advisor”. This source said:

“Take this any way it sounds, but do you think George would take time out from speeding around town in his TR-6 convertible sports car, bedding down just about every single woman – and a few married ones – and partying like there’s no tomorrow to go work full-time as a mentor to a bunch of streetwise black kids? Get real man, this is a white-bread boy from the other side of town we’re talking about”.

Exactly.

Next Hatfield called George W.’s presidential campaign spokesman, Scott McClellan, who had previously refused to comment on the original allegations in Salon about the Martin Luther King, Jr., Center. Hatfield asked him about Bush’s involvement in Project P.U.L.L. in 1972 as a condition of having his cocaine possession charge purged. Hatfield reports what followed in his book:

“There was a moment of electric silence, and then McClellan muttered an almost inaudible “Oh sh**”, and after hesitating for a moment, finally said, “No comment”.

“After McClellan abruptly terminated our conversation, I called the Bush presidential exploratory committee back, but a Megan Moran answered and informed me that either Karen Hughes or Mindy Tucker, two other Bush campaign spokespersons, would return my call. Neither one of them ever did.”

Another long-time associate of George W., and a man close to his campaign team, also confirmed to Hatfield that the cocaine story and its’ connection to Project P.U.L.L. was correct. This guy added:

“I can’t and won’t give you any new names, but I can confirm that W.’s Dallas attorney remains the repository of any evidence of the expunged record. From what I’ve been told, the attorney is the one who advised him to get a new drivers license in 1995 when a survey of his public records uncovered a stale, but nevertheless incriminating trail for an overly eager reporter to follow”.

(It is officially confirmed that Bush did indeed get a new drivers license at that time.)

“Bush won’t admit he’s used drugs before 1974. Period. Because we’re not talking about experimenting with a little pot like a lot of baby boomers did back then. Hell, for a significant number of us, drug use was a youthful indiscretion, a misguided rite of passage” he continued “But W. got caught with cocaine in 1972 and because his daddy was oil rich and influential in Harris County politics, he got his son off with a little community service at a minority youth center instead of having to pick cotton on a Texas prison farm”.

George W. Bush was one of twelve presidential hopefuls asked the same question by The New York Daily News on August 4th 1999. Had any of them ever used cocaine or marijuana? Bush was the only one who refused to answer. He has also refused to deny that he took illegal substances before 1974. This source told Hatfield:

“I personally advised him to stay on course and never admit anything…I said George, once you start answering, you’re never going to be able to stop. The press will trick you by claiming that if you answer one more question, they’ll get off your ass. But he ignored my advice and now everybody wants to know why he won’t rule out drug use prior to 1974”.

Well the answer to why he can’t rule it out is, quite simply, because he DID use cocaine and he WAS caught in possession and he DID have this record erased because of who he was in return for working at Project P.U.L.L.

George W. Bush is, like his infamous father, lying through his teeth to the people of America about his cocaine possession and much else besides.

IF THAT IS NOT TRUE “JUNIOR” THEN ISSUE A WRIT AGAINST ME AND LET’S HAVE A PUBLIC DEBATE ABOUT THIS IN COURT, OK? AND WHILE YOU ARE ABOUT IT, ASK YOUR FATHER TO ISSUE FURTHER WRITS AGAINST ME FOR EXPOSING HIM AS A PAEDOPHILE AND MURDERER AND LET’S GET THAT INTO THE OPEN ALSO.

LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU, GUYS.

Let me make it clear that I am not seeking to condemn Bush junior for taking cocaine or any other drug in itself. That’s up to him as long as he doesn’t force it on anyone else. But here is a guy who has raised fantastic amounts of money from Illuminati sources to become the latest bloodline President of the United States. As president he will have the power to send Americans to war (no matter what the law may say) and yet like his father’s vice-president, Dan Quayle, he used his family connections to secure a place in the National Guard during the Vietnam War to ensure that he would never have to go overseas and fight, suffer, and die, in Vietnam in the manner of so many of his fellow Americans in that Illuminati-created conflict.

In the same way, as Governor of Texas, George W. Bush’s monumental hypocrisy can be seen again in his attitude to young people convicted of drug possession. As one of Hatfield’s sources close to Bush said:

“You know what makes me sick about all this sh**? It’s Bush’s hypocrisy. Cocaine use is illegal, but as governor of Texas, he’s toughened penalties for people convicted of selling or possessing less than a gram of coke, Ok’d the housing of sixteen year olds in adult correction facilities, and slashed funding for inmate substance-abuse programs. Texas currently spends over 1.45 million dollars per day keeping drug offenders behind bars and other $28,000 a day incarcerating young people for drug offences”.

“I’ve known George for several years and he has never accepted youth and irresponsibility as legitimate excuses for illegal behaviour – except when it comes to himself”.

So how come that Hatfield’s book, Fortunate Son, which clearly tells the truth about George W. Bush and his stunning lies and hypocrisy, can be withdrawn by the publisher at precisely the time when the people of America need this information before they make decisions on who should be their next President? I need say no more than to quote a warning given to Hatfield by one of his Bush-connected sources:

“Be careful and watch your back every step of the way. Without sounding paranoid, I think I would be amiss if I didn’t remind you that George’s old man was once director of the CIA. sh**, man, they named the building after the guy not too long ago. Besides, W.’s raised a staggering sixty million dollars for his White House run in a matter of only a few months and his corporate (ILLUMINATI) sponsors and GOP (republican) fat cats aren’t going to roll over and play dead when you expose the truth about their investment.”

NOR DID THEY.

WELCOME TO THE LAND OF THE FREE.

DAVID ICKE


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The above picture of Governor George Jr. was extracted from a public State of Texas owned and paid for website. Paid for by the People of Texas. Purportedly every image on the site is copyrighted. How can the Texas legislature take pictures of the legislative chambers, paid and maintained by TAX monies, and then presume to hold a copyright on PUBLIC property? If you don't believe this...

http://www.governor.state.tx.us/legislative/index.html
http://www.governor.state.tx.us/

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http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/bushblood.html
THE WINDSOR-BUSH BLOODLINE Or why George W. Bush is the favourite to be President of the United States in the year 2000!

Bush's Boys Club-Skull and Bones
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/magazine/vol-5/bushsucks.html

Biography of George H.W. Bush

http://www.50megs.com/davidicke/icke/magaz.../bush/bushb.htm

Yogurt Shop Murders ~ Attorney's Investigation into the cover-up of Child Murders and Abuse by Governor George BUSH Jr. and the Texas Judicial System
http://www.50megs.com/davidicke/icke/magaz...urt/yogurt1.htm

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Other Articles by David Icke
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/article.html



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The Doctor
Shouldn't this be in the conspiracies section? rolleyes.gif
David Icke is full of crap.
Demae
Look, I really don't care about what some guy says.. I think bush is alright... He's decent... not that great of a president, but he's average... I know he probably wouldnt do that though... Good lord. *shakes his head with his fingures to his forehead*
QueenVixxen
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I think bush is alright... He's decent... not that great of a president, but he's average


I Just threw up a little in my mouth
exponential_sly_de
QUOTE(QueenVixxen @ Mar 19 2006, 06:32 PM) [snapback]1111367[/snapback]

I Just threw up a little in my mouth



me2 that guy needs a reality check.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(exponential_sly_de @ Mar 19 2006, 12:37 PM) [snapback]1111370[/snapback]

me2 that guy needs a reality check.

Bush is not the brightest, but he is not the devil. He does not have the smarts to pull off conspiracies.

Also, never put David Icke as a source. It destroys any credibility. He is crazy as a loon.
Dominik
Where does it say anything about him being a paedophile?
angrycrustacean
I'm so sick of people hating Bush just because it's cool. Most of them probably don't have a good reason to hate him. Look, he's just a guy, he screwed up badly several times, but let's get over it. It's not like America is a barren wasteland, nor is he going to make it one. He's not the first president to make big mistakes.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(angrycrustacean @ Mar 19 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]1111559[/snapback]

I'm so sick of people hating Bush just because it's cool. Most of them probably don't have a good reason to hate him. Look, he's just a guy, he screwed up badly several times, but let's get over it. It's not like America is a barren wasteland, nor is he going to make it one. He's not the first president to make big mistakes.

Amen. thumbsup.gif
joc
As far as I am concerned he hasn't made any big mistakes.
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(angrycrustacean @ Mar 19 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]1111559[/snapback]

I'm so sick of people hating Bush just because it's cool. Most of them probably don't have a good reason to hate him. Look, he's just a guy, he screwed up badly several times, but let's get over it. It's not like America is a barren wasteland, nor is he going to make it one. He's not the first president to make big mistakes.


As a Canadian I can see where you might think that. I am not totally convinced that he isn't the devil. The shrublet has lied more times to the american people than anyone can possibly count.

Please educate yourself before making such statements as its cool to hate Bush. Those of us who follow the happenings in this corrupt admin dont find it amusing or cool at all. We are deeply concerned with our nation and its current and future state. "screwing up badly several times" is not even close to accurate!

BTW, I am the fiance of a 24 YO disabled vet. When you have to be treated by VA you can tell me how wonderful you think he is. When you have lost everything because your significant other needs 24hour care and the governement, the military and the va give you the finger and tell you have a nice life, we can't help you. You can tell me how great the shrublet is. Maybe you should go to the va, and take a look at the people there who sit for hours past thier scheduled appointments, the very same appointments it took 3 months to get.

When you have lost a $30k entry level job with a promo after only 3 months. Lost your healthcare (which you know nothing about) and your life savings is going to pay monthly bills just so you can keep a roof over your head, then you can tell me something, I have no doubt you will never be able to tell me anything about how the shrublet isnt such a bad guy.

FYI a few years back, he gave the military a raise, geez that was mighty good of him huh? The truth is the money he used to give them a raise was taken from the housing budget for military families. Also those great tax cuts we recieved about 5 years ago, most of america got between $300-600, he took that money from social security. The top 1/5th of earners receive 2/3rds of all benefits and the bill excluded extending the child tax credit to 4 million low income families who do not qualify.

I could go on and on about the horrible things this dictator has done to our nation but I don't have the rest of week to waste explaining it to you.
angrycrustacean
Sorry, you seem to have misinterpreted me. I don't personally find that Bush-hating is cool; I thought the rest of my post made that obvious.

Edit: In response to the rest of your post, I appreciate your opinion. In your case, I think that you have every right to hate Bush. I just have a problem with the people who hate him while knowing very little about the situation.
Carajbu
Queen Vixen you need to calm down.

We don't really care what happened to you, complain to someone else. Life is unfair. It's not Bush's fault. He isn't a dictator, ever heard of Congress? It seems like you need a reality check. There is a lot of problems with our government but Bush isn't the only one to blame. HAHA it's not like he's the only one with power. tongue.gif
joc
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BTW, I am the fiance of a 24 YO disabled vet. When you have to be treated by VA you can tell me how wonderful you think he is. When you have lost everything because your significant other needs 24hour care and the governement, the military and the va give you the finger and tell you have a nice life, we can't help you. You can tell me how great the shrublet is. Maybe you should go to the va, and take a look at the people there who sit for hours past thier scheduled appointments, the very same appointments it took 3 months to get.


Please, don't make the mistake of blaming casualties on the president...any president.

I am sorry that your fiance is disabled...but it isn't Bush's fault. How about blaming the enemy? If we didn't have an enemy we wouldn't be in a war to begin with.

I am convinced that everyone who hates Bush and claims the war in Iraq is a huge mistake, would be the very first in line to blame him for not acting against Sadaam if another 9/11 had happened and Iraq was implicated. You people cannot have it both ways.

Just an aside. Every soldier knows what they are getting into when they join. No one is forced into this military...everyone joins...don't be blaming the president for anything.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(joc @ Mar 19 2006, 03:33 PM) [snapback]1111650[/snapback]


Just an aside. Every soldier knows what they are getting into when they join. No one is forced into this military...everyone joins...don't be blaming the president for anything.

Exactly. No one is promised when they joined," you will never see combat".
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(joc @ Mar 19 2006, 03:33 PM) [snapback]1111650[/snapback]

Please, don't make the mistake of blaming casualties on the president...any president.

I am sorry that your fiance is disabled...but it isn't Bush's fault. How about blaming the enemy? If we didn't have an enemy we wouldn't be in a war to begin with.

I am convinced that everyone who hates Bush and claims the war in Iraq is a huge mistake, would be the very first in line to blame him for not acting against Sadaam if another 9/11 had happened and Iraq was implicated. You people cannot have it both ways.

Just an aside. Every soldier knows what they are getting into when they join. No one is forced into this military...everyone joins...don't be blaming the president for anything.


Saddam had nothing to do with 911, Bin Laden found him to be repulsive. He got us into this bogus war because of oil, Ya it is definately his fault. Our enemy is in the WH. Q, You are the one who needs reality check dear. I have my facts str8.
The Doctor
I'm fed up of people making out like Bush and Blair are both so bad, I'm not saying I support everything they've done but there have been worse leaders I mean they're hardly Hitler and Stalin are they.
joc
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Saddam had nothing to do with 911, Bin Laden found him to be repulsive. He got us into this bogus war because of oil, Ya it is definately his fault. Our enemy is in the WH. Q, You are the one who needs reality check dear. I have my facts str8.


I'm sorry, but you really don't have any facts sraight or str8.

Facts are now pouring out about Sadaam's involvment with AlQueda with the release of thousands of pages of documents from Sadaam's computers.
Carajbu
Str8?

I definetly believe you.

Because Bush can declare war on another country? Only Congress can, hun. Might want to blame them. wink2.gif
krichter33
Goebbels would be proud...
The Doctor
QUOTE(krichter33 @ Mar 19 2006, 09:55 PM) [snapback]1111681[/snapback]

Goebbels would be proud...

Of who huh.gif
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(Qarrah @ Mar 19 2006, 03:54 PM) [snapback]1111680[/snapback]

Str8?

I definetly believe you.

Because Bush can declare war on another country? Only Congress can, hun. Might want to blame them. wink2.gif


Yes an approval vote based on the shrublets lies. Saddam was no threat to this nation. Curious how he didn't declare war on the saudi's, after all they were the ones funding the terrorists. Perhaps it's because they are long time butt buddies, the saudi's have been lining the pockets of the Bush family for years.
Stellar
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Saddam was no threat to this nation.


He was a threat to his people, thats indesputable. You dont even care about that though, hmm?

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Perhaps it's because they are long time butt buddies, the saudi's have been lining the pockets of the Bush family for years.


Or perhaps because they can sink the US economically even more than the Iraq war has done...
Astronema
QUOTE(krichter33 @ Mar 19 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]1111681[/snapback]

Goebbels would be proud...

wtf
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(Stellar @ Mar 19 2006, 04:12 PM) [snapback]1111702[/snapback]

He was a threat to his people, thats indesputable. You dont even care about that though, hmm?
Or perhaps because they can sink the US economically even more than the Iraq war has done...


I care about my country first and everyone else second, maybe you should consider your own before you worry about some other country's problems.

I think the shrublet has done a fine job of sinking this country I dont think we need the help of his butt buddies.
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(joc @ Mar 19 2006, 03:45 PM) [snapback]1111667[/snapback]

I'm sorry, but you really don't have any facts sraight or str8.

Facts are now pouring out about Sadaam's involvment with AlQueda with the release of thousands of pages of documents from Sadaam's computers.


Yeah the timing is fantastic don't you think?

I have stated before the two hated each other.

The Real Bin Laden

I don't believe it took all this time to translate documents. They have put older info out alot faster in the past. You will see what they have put together for you to see. This admin wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the arse. There is a word for people who believe everything shrublet says, they are called "Sheeple"
joc
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There is a word for people who believe everything shrublet says, they are called "Sheeple"


There is also a word for people who fall in step with the AlGore/Clinton march...

....but I can't use it on this forum. original.gif

Your hate is going to eat you up inside....and that is nobody's fault but your own...

...one great human truth if I may be so bold:

It isn't really what happens to you in life that is important, rather it is how you 'think' about what happens to you....think positive.

There is no room for hate in a positive thought process. You can't change the war...you can't change your fiance's disabilities...all you really have control over in this world is your own thought process.
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(joc @ Mar 19 2006, 05:33 PM) [snapback]1111824[/snapback]

There is also a word for people who fall in step with the AlGore/Clinton march...

....but I can't use it on this forum. original.gif

Your hate is going to eat you up inside....and that is nobody's fault but your own...

...one great human truth if I may be so bold:

It isn't really what happens to you in life that is important, rather it is how you 'think' about what happens to you....think positive.

There is no room for hate in a positive thought process. You can't change the war...you can't change your fiance's disabilities...all you really have control over in this world is your own thought process.


Im not a fan of Dem's either I find them to be spineless. I am an indy and a centrist. My hate for this admin. is simply that I don't like to be lied to, and I don't like the fact that he is an obvious dry drunk. We had no reason to go into Iraq, even the shrub admitted that there were no wmd's and now all of a sudden he say's there were. You can't have it both ways. Once a proven liar, there is no trust for that person ever. Do you actually believe God talks to him? C'mon. BTW Hitler also thought God talked to him.

et's daddy
QUOTE(QueenVixxen @ Mar 19 2006, 06:42 PM) [snapback]1111835[/snapback]

Im not a fan of Dem's either I find them to be spineless. I am an indy and a centrist. My hate for this admin. is simply that I don't like to be lied to, and I don't like the fact that he is an obvious dry drunk. We had no reason to go into Iraq, even the shrub admitted that there were no wmd's and now all of a sudden he say's there were. You can't have it both ways. Once a proven liar, there is no trust for that person ever. Do you actually believe God talks to him? C'mon. BTW Hitler also thought God talked to him.


you dont care about anyone but you and yours

and you expect us to care about you ?

Iraq had and still has WMD's

you have not been lied to

and now you want to blame Bush for your treatment at the VA ? are you totally nuts ?

i guess if you have a hard time at the post office its Bush's fault too rolleyes.gif

edit: btw, how is this topic an ancient mystery ?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(QueenVixxen @ Mar 19 2006, 05:42 PM) [snapback]1111835[/snapback]

Im not a fan of Dem's either I find them to be spineless. I am an indy and a centrist. My hate for this admin. is simply that I don't like to be lied to, and I don't like the fact that he is an obvious dry drunk. We had no reason to go into Iraq, even the shrub admitted that there were no wmd's and now all of a sudden he say's there were. You can't have it both ways. Once a proven liar, there is no trust for that person ever. Do you actually believe God talks to him? C'mon. BTW Hitler also thought God talked to him.

All you sound like is angry. No one will listen becuause all you do is preach hate. Pull it back a little and maybe more people will listen. The way you talk, it sounds like Bush stole your lunch money.
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 19 2006, 05:56 PM) [snapback]1111849[/snapback]

you dont care about anyone but you and yours

and you expect us to care about you ?

Iraq had and still has WMD's

you have not been lied to

and now you want to blame Bush for your treatment at the VA ? are you totally nuts ?

i guess if you have a hard time at the post office its Bush's fault too rolleyes.gif

edit: btw, how is this topic an ancient mystery ?


I don't expect you to care about me, you don't even know me, the point I was making was that he got us into this war and now we have an untold amount of men and woman who are hurt and your boy refuses to fund the very agency that can assist them.
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Mar 19 2006, 06:03 PM) [snapback]1111856[/snapback]

All you sound like is angry. No one will listen becuause all you do is preach hate. Pull it back a little and maybe more people will listen. The way you talk, it sounds like Bush stole your lunch money.


Im so pleased you know me well enough to make statements like that. I don't need anybody to listen to me. Anybody who can read can see the blatent lies of this admin. Here is a little something for you, so that you know something about me instead of making ignorant comments about me. I have built a computer lab for the residents of a disabled housing building. I also teach them how to use the internet. I don't get paid for it, I volunteer my time. Now you know something about me. All I do is preach hate, I think not.
et's daddy
QUOTE(QueenVixxen @ Mar 19 2006, 07:14 PM) [snapback]1111863[/snapback]

I don't expect you to care about me, you don't even know me, the point I was making was that he got us into this war and now we have an untold amount of men and woman who are hurt and your boy refuses to fund the very agency that can assist them.


see thats the difference between us

i actually do care about you, even though it is hard with your attitude

i also care about those people in Iraq Sadaam was slaughtering

and i feel it is our duty to help them

it's a sad state that you dont no.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(QueenVixxen @ Mar 19 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]1111868[/snapback]

Im so pleased you know me well enough to make statements like that. I don't need anybody to listen to me. Anybody who can read can see the blatent lies of this admin. Here is a little something for you, so that you know something about me instead of making ignorant comments about me. I have built a computer lab for the residents of a disabled housing building. I also teach them how to use the internet. I don't get paid for it, I volunteer my time. Now you know something about me. All I do is preach hate, I think not.

I spend time at shelters. Big deal. You do want to be heard, you are in a public forum. So that does not fly. All you are doing on here is spewing hate. Thats easy to gather from your posts.
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 19 2006, 06:22 PM) [snapback]1111872[/snapback]

see thats the difference between us

i actually do care about you, even though it is hard with your attitude

i also care about those people in Iraq Sadaam was slaughtering

and i feel it is our duty to help them

it's a sad state that you dont no.gif


Let me rephrase, It is not that I don't care that those people are being slaughtered, but my priority is with my neighbors. When everyone in our country has a roof over thier head and food to eat and a job, then I think we should help others. Our jobs are being outsourced to India and Mexico. The mexicans are no better off with NAFTA either. The only people making money is the corporations, the same in this country.

Granted Saddam was a horrible and brutal dictator, however there are far worse in Africa, but we didn't choose to go Africa. The premise for going to war was a lie.

My soldier is 6th generation military, and my family has 4 generations of military. I do support the troops as they did not have a choice. I send care packages to men I don't know and never expect to meet. War is always a last option and for the shrub it was not his last option. All presidents lie, I agree with the person that said that, however some lies cannot be dismissed and going to war on false premise is one of them. We have lost far to many men and woman, and too many have been mamed, and for what? Oil? We are there for no other reason that I can see. Like I said, if it was to save these people from this dictator, then we should have gone elsewhere, like Africa. The Iraqis have guns and plenty of ammo, the africans do not. Shouldn't we have gone thier first if that was his mission.

I just cannot understand how people can be so blind to his lies, and defend his actions.


joc

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I just cannot understand how people can be so blind to his lies, and defend his actions.


We aren't blinded by lies...you are blinded by hate!
Stellar
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I care about my country first and everyone else second, maybe you should consider your own before you worry about some other country's problems.

I think the shrublet has done a fine job of sinking this country I dont think we need the help of his butt buddies.


Your country will survive, and if the insurgency stops, theres the added benefit of the Iraqis living far better lives.

Stellar
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Granted Saddam was a horrible and brutal dictator, however there are far worse in Africa, but we didn't choose to go Africa. The premise for going to war was a lie.


That is irrelevant. What is relevant is that it'll help.

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We have lost far to many men and woman, and too many have been mamed, and for what? Oil?


Helping the Iraqis?
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(joc @ Mar 19 2006, 07:06 PM) [snapback]1111924[/snapback]

We aren't blinded by lies...you are blinded by hate!

Blah Blah Blah
I know you can read so read this.

Lies

joc
QUOTE(QueenVixxen @ Mar 20 2006, 01:19 AM) [snapback]1111934[/snapback]

Blah Blah Blah
I know you can read so read this.

Lies


If you subscribe to the idiocy of sites like this no wonder you are so filled with hate. Open your heart and your eyes girl. Blah, blah...you ARE blinded by hate. That is what hate does...it blinds. I couldn't stand Bill Clinton but I never hated him. You need to grow up. Please do your fiance a favor and don't marry him. He doesn't need that kind of hate in his life. Eventually you will turn your hate on him. Mark my words.
et's daddy
QUOTE(QueenVixxen @ Mar 19 2006, 08:19 PM) [snapback]1111934[/snapback]

Blah Blah Blah
I know you can read so read this.

Lies


what a slanted pile of horse manure
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(joc @ Mar 19 2006, 07:36 PM) [snapback]1111953[/snapback]

If you subscribe to the idiocy of sites like this no wonder you are so filled with hate. Open your heart and your eyes girl. Blah, blah...you ARE blinded by hate. That is what hate does...it blinds. I couldn't stand Bill Clinton but I never hated him. You need to grow up. Please do your fiance a favor and don't marry him. He doesn't need that kind of hate in his life. Eventually you will turn your hate on him. Mark my words.

You need to educate yourself. I don't see how you can deny facts. That was my point about sheeple. You follow blindly without seeing what is right in front of you. Im so sure about your words. Ive got 5 years in with my man, we would have been married already, however the money for the wedding was lost, just like this farce of a war. Why don't you grow up. I can't help it if you don't like the truth.
et's daddy
QUOTE(QueenVixxen @ Mar 19 2006, 08:50 PM) [snapback]1111966[/snapback]

You need to educate yourself. I don't see how you can deny facts. That was my point about sheeple. You follow blindly without seeing what is right in front of you. Im so sure about your words. Ive got 5 years in with my man, we would have been married already, however the money for the wedding was lost, just like this farce of a war. Why don't you grow up. I can't help it if you don't like the truth.


pray you never need help like the people of Iraq, as you may find it slow in comming
joc
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You follow blindly without seeing what is right in front of you.


I think you are the one following blindly sweetheart. original.gif
QueenVixxen
QUOTE(joc @ Mar 19 2006, 07:59 PM) [snapback]1111976[/snapback]

I think you are the one following blindly sweetheart. original.gif


If that's the case defend the things he has done, or prove the facts wrong
ImOne
What sickens me is the layers of bureaucratic secrecy, manipulation, mis-direction, and control over information and the media to point that we don't know what the hell happened. We never will know. People in power only reach their position by playing into the people in power. We're screwed. Doesn't matter who you elect, they've all bought in.

What makes people think they have any honest information is beyond me. The game of politics has nothing to do with truth and honesty. It's power for it's own sake. There are exceptions, but they don't last long.

You guys talk about truth and lies as if you some how know what the truth is. The only time they tell the truth is when it suits their purpose, same as when they lie. Truths and lies support each other to the point that it's impossible to decipher. What we're left with is our beliefs. Beliefs we create from the corrupted information that's available to us.

Concerning the Iraq war, people in positions of power had reasons for it. It seems pretty obvious they don't want to tell us the real reasons. I'm sure they think it's for our own good. We may never know.

ior
Carajbu
That may be so ImtheOne, but we're not completely ignorant.

And Queen Vixen, you're looking at all the bad things the war has done. Look at the good; Saddam is overthrown.
If we had a dictactor and couldn't help ourselves wouldn't you want another country to help us? And what if the US hadn't gone to Iraq? I honestly don't believe anyone else would have intervened.
I don't care if Bush went to Iraq for what...oil? We're not even controlling the oil factories over there.
I'm glad the Iraqi's are free of Saddam. Now we need to get them jobs and money but we're working on it right?
frogfish
I'm not believeing any of this propaganda...the author of this thread is the one who is scared of a big asteroid that won't hit us...
riotboy555
QUOTE(QueenVixxen @ Mar 19 2006, 11:42 PM) [snapback]1111835[/snapback]

Do you actually believe God talks to him? C'mon. BTW Hitler also thought God talked to him.

That's the one thing I don't like. If anybody else said God talked to them, they'd go straight into an asylum.
Carajbu
Hitler saw a vision that told him he was to save Germany. He believed that the Jews were Satan and he was Jesus and it was his duty to get rid of the evil Jews.
But I don't see how Hitler ties to Bush?
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