If all incarnate/physical life contains spirit; then logically spirit preceded all physical life (on this planet, in this universe, the multiverses or whatever). However, how or why did spirit exist before physical life?

Did spirit evolve from early phyiscal life; or did early phyiscal life evolve from spirit - which came first?

As they say - discuss...

What if spirit is the emission of the after life on the other side of dark energy!? What if it's all recycling; Life death and what we think is spirit, i.e. the invigorator behind it all, is really that next energy which is what is expended after the creative energies reach their unique peaks and disintegrate (die). Re-cycling self-evolving polarized energetics. Cyclical involution & evolution.

Hmmm....... .now that is a good question!
kind of the unanswerable one, like the chicken & the egg..................

actually the spirit realm is older then the physical one so the spirit is older

There isn't any before or any after. They both have always existed and will always exist, because they are part of one another and not separate. They are both part of the dream, they are both states of illusion. The spiritual is simply less of an illusion than the physical.

No point raising easy questions

no, the spirit realm was always there while the physical realm was created

Wouldn't a spirit technically be a physical entity? It takes up space somehow in some dimension.

Its all energy.
No scientist can tell us where energy comes from.

Its good to be humbled.

the laws of the spirit realm are different the laws of the physical realm so it would not be physical as we know it

So then what created the spirit realm and it's rules?

as far as i know it's always been

Then you run into the whole "What was before that?" paradox.



Why do you believe that the spiritual realm has no beginning, but the physical does?

it's what i learned from spiritual beings

For something to be defined, such as spirit, it is to then indict that something defined as having a source for the object definition. Therefore there is no thing that can have always been. It must have a source for it to be. All energy has a genesis.

Existence is proof of a source, that is the source born from the source of powers to create. To ever truly know the source of all that exists in mortal form would then alter the mortal consciousness that is aware to the degree it was created by it's source to reside in and as mortal form. This would then destroy that consciousness contained within the limits it was created to exist inside of, and this would in turn destroy the source to that which exists as one created from the source of all that manifests the one creation of a mortal.

In other words, for the true answer one has to die.
But then we'll still be asking the question, because the answer one has received after passing, can never be acknowledge by the created and survived.

the spirit realm does follow the same laws so something can have always been there, it is not restricted by physical boundaries

Curious that you are only apparently acknowledging two realms?

what do you mean

Sorry, if you have to ask the question...

I believe thought came before the spirit and before the physical.

I mean why wouldn't i only acknowlede those two

True the energy came before the physical, then into a soul it developped once the human came to be, I guess. maybe the soul "formed" in consequence from that energy?
depending on some beliefs, the energy that the soul comes from is not limited to this earth...........So... did the Earth human get created in order for the soul to come experience physical life?

I think part of the responsibility for a conflict in reaching an accord as to at least a affirmation something is at work in manifesting all that is, is that because we dare ponder the question we do so from that egocentric perspective. As if this particular one of the many, is somehow the same but especially different.

To define the unseen to a particular cosmogony begins the search from that egocentric platform. As in; I exist for the reason to know why all else is here. And some call it god.

While others icon is wrapped into hypothesis and theorem, yet still endowed with the same compulsion. To define an answer to everything we can think of. Imagine the millions of dollars the pursuit of an answer garners in the course of one year. In either community of spirit or science. Everyone has a notion; Religionists see it as god, science sees it as....well depends upon the denomination. However no matter what field of thought/faith, one attends it is all based on observation as cause to keep the pursuit of the definitive answer, current. In religion the only true answer shall be when we die, making the question immaterial. In science the same can be said. One fact in common. All else is the subject to question. Do we materialize our perception (we see it when we believe it) or does our perception exist materially? (We believe it when we see it). Maybe the answer is both, and that's why no matter which side of the question is looking for the answer, what keeps both going is faith there is a source, if only in that which compells the wonder at all that is, that may be in itself what keeps it all alive.

Maybe we are god. And this is our world to make what we see for ourselves. After all, think how you feel right now and ask what is first responsible for becoming host to that. You!

Ever seen that book titled; "Behaving as if the god in all things mattered" ?

What if it could also be said in another way? "Behaving as if we are the god of all our matters." ?

What then would we choose to believe ourselves worthy of moment to moment faithfully in the process of witnessing the fact we are in receipt of the results of our personal choices. Responsible for our actions and how that affects those around us. While anything unseen is just an after thought, to what we witness come to life through us. The creator of that personal reality wherein we are not alone as others do the same. Effect and Affect. Faith in fact, in that "This is me" is the first imagining that that is what one knows as mortal truth.