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manticoreconfusion
I've been away for a long time from this forum and i'm making a comeback with a theory of dragons.

Right many dragon sightings have been reported from the old days of 1222 and one as early as 793 but then a number of sightings decreased as the number of air machines were made.
Now we can think about it.

The dragons could be scared of the air machines as new terrors of the sky and they have gone into hiding ( Like a terrorist with a nuclear bomb would if the government were looking for him )but you may ask we have they all gone? Why don't we see them?
Well there has been a couple of sightings and the Pickled Dragon Mystery but I have had a theory of where they may have gone. One of the places on Earth noone can get into.
I say ON Earth, Not inside it. Somewhere that we have tried to get to but noone has come back. The Bemuda (however you spell it) Triangle.

We don't know whats in there and any communication is broken when entered. This could be due to and eletrical storm which also caused planes to go haywire and crash.

The storms itself could be a defence by the dragons in using the spark pouch inside their mouths (Which is used to light the hydrogen they eat and breath out into fire) to cause the storm.

A theory but a theory none the less, I'm not saying it's true, just that it might be.
Twisted_Dragon
Well, first things first, a theory is defined as :a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory". Now, I highly doubt you tested this in any way, have any evidence to back it up, or that you have any experts on your side. So, start by calling it what it is, an idea.

Moving on though, I, personally, do not believe, and never have believed in the existance of dragons. Such a large beast would most certainly have left behind some sort of evidence, such as remains, to validate its existance. But, there seems to be nothing of the sort. As for your idea, I must say...it is a new one. IF there were dragons, and that is a tremendous if, I can agree with you that they would probably deter themselves from aircrafts, which would decrease the number of sightings. Taking refuge, also a plausible idea. BUT, the bermuda triangle? Remember, that is not a portal into some other world. All it is is a large stretch of ocean where some weird things happen, barely a suitable hideout for large, flying, reptilian creatures. Mind you, they could survive on fish, there is almost no land mass for them to inhabit, so to live, they'd have to be in constant flight. Then, consider that to remain in flight, they would need obscene amounts of energy. How do they get this energy, food. So, consider the mass of a dragon, something which is percieved to be like a dinosaur. It would probably be a couple of tons. In order to sustain a whole species that size, they would easily wipe out all life in the area, just to have enough energy to stay in flight, nevertheless produce storms (which is preposterous in itself). So, I don't think you have much there....
Astronema
well look who came back
frogfish
the bermuda is a patch of water....the only storms there are the occasional tropical storms and hurricanes.
Astronema
the triangle
manticoreconfusion
We humans need all this space but we don't blow it up and destroy everything....most of us anyway so why say dragons actually HAVE to?
Acenaspheru
QUOTE(manticoreconfusion @ Mar 19 2006, 06:55 PM) [snapback]1111779[/snapback]

We humans need all this space but we don't blow it up and destroy everything....most of us anyway so why say dragons actually HAVE to?


the idea behind the triangle is that there are hidden islands so i guess if you could proove that was true you might be able to say that they moved to these islands. i've never heard of dragons making storms though. actually the most plausible place you might be able to find them would be the rain forests in south america. there was tribesman who claimed that some of the hunters killed a dinosour, a long neck to be exact. without having any idea of their existance having never left his village before, he correctly identified a long neck as the beast that was killed and eaten. apparently it made them very sick. so i guess if you can hide dinosours there you could also hide dragons. though i don't think they are alive anymore.
AnuKabal
or isolated parts of africa
Twisted_Dragon
QUOTE(Acenaspheru @ Mar 20 2006, 02:53 AM) [snapback]1112033[/snapback]

the idea behind the triangle is that there are hidden islands so i guess if you could proove that was true you might be able to say that they moved to these islands. i've never heard of dragons making storms though. actually the most plausible place you might be able to find them would be the rain forests in south america. there was tribesman who claimed that some of the hunters killed a dinosour, a long neck to be exact. without having any idea of their existance having never left his village before, he correctly identified a long neck as the beast that was killed and eaten. apparently it made them very sick. so i guess if you can hide dinosours there you could also hide dragons. though i don't think they are alive anymore.



Well...to the best of my recollection, there is no dinosaur called a "long neck", and identifying one wouldn't be all that difficult...
psyche101
QUOTE(Acenaspheru @ Mar 20 2006, 12:53 PM) [snapback]1112033[/snapback]

the idea behind the triangle is that there are hidden islands so i guess if you could proove that was true you might be able to say that they moved to these islands. i've never heard of dragons making storms though. actually the most plausible place you might be able to find them would be the rain forests in south america. there was tribesman who claimed that some of the hunters killed a dinosour, a long neck to be exact. without having any idea of their existance having never left his village before, he correctly identified a long neck as the beast that was killed and eaten. apparently it made them very sick. so i guess if you can hide dinosours there you could also hide dragons. though i don't think they are alive anymore.



Geez, of course there is such a thing as a long neck - ever heard of littlefoot? The Great Valley?

Think you are talking about Mokele Mbembe (Congo, Africa). I would love it if a cryptid of such alleged magnitude was to be found. Unfortunatley, expeditions just always seem to fall short of proving the evlusive beast. It seems it is far more likely that his 'Dino" is a Rhino. There have been many reports of missionaries who claim to have seen the beast, and one would hope that they would know the difference between a dinosaur and a Rhino. So perhaps there is something new to discover. I suspect a new breed of Rhino more adapted to marshy/semi-aquatic conditions than a Dinosaur though.

Here is a link to the story of the Mokele Mbembe being killed.

Mokele Mbembe at Lake Tele
draconic chronicler
Manticore,
Dragon sightings go back a lot further that 793 AD, and virtually in every human culture. The Loch Ness monster, first reported in the 5th century was originally referred to as a dragon (draconis) in the original latin text story of St Columba who ordered it away in the same language.

They appear in the oldest known sumerian writings and their depictions in art from those times look surprisingly like those from the middle ages. And then there are the prehistoric depictions of them.

I would agree though that they cannot be "normal" biological animals or we would have found evidence of them by now. However, virtually every world religion has some kind of "dragons" connected with it, and imply they are supernatural/immortal creatures that would therefore not leave any remains to be found if none have ever "died". They even play a prominent role in the Judao-Christian religions, though this is largely unknown and misunderstood in our mdoern times due to continuous editing and retranslations of the Bible.

Virtually every world theology has some kind of dragons in it. So if there is "truth" to any religion, it may explain why dragons have been seen all over the world for thousands of years, yet leave no physical sign of their existence. If the Judao-Christian religions have truth to them, ancient scriptures describe "dragons" that reside deep in the oceans, like the fire spewing "leviathan" as well as the winged seraphim-dragons of heaven, sent to earth to perform acts of heavenly retribution in the past, and supposedly in the future.

Acenaspheru
QUOTE(psyche101 @ Mar 20 2006, 08:03 PM) [snapback]1113236[/snapback]

Geez, of course there is such a thing as a long neck - ever heard of littlefoot? The Great Valley?

Think you are talking about Mokele Mbembe (Congo, Africa). I would love it if a cryptid of such alleged magnitude was to be found. Unfortunatley, expeditions just always seem to fall short of proving the evlusive beast. It seems it is far more likely that his 'Dino" is a Rhino. There have been many reports of missionaries who claim to have seen the beast, and one would hope that they would know the difference between a dinosaur and a Rhino. So perhaps there is something new to discover. I suspect a new breed of Rhino more adapted to marshy/semi-aquatic conditions than a Dinosaur though.

Here is a link to the story of the Mokele Mbembe being killed.

Mokele Mbembe at Lake Tele


rofl.gif i always get locations mixed up! ^^ thanks for the link that was it. huh.gif The show i saw it on never said the rest of that so it was an interesting update.

XD i probably should have jumped out there and made an educated guess on plesaosour. ^^; i think that's the right name for long necks anyway. a lot of people on here only seem to know the scientiic names for things. i'm not really into zoology of any kind so i'm not particular about what names i use unless it's something unknown. blink.gif but yeah i thought pretty much everyone had heard of tha movie. and i'm pretty sure those are supposed to be a real breed of dinosour.

laugh.gif at any rate i like your idea of a new species of something but i'm not sure it would be a rihno. the description sounds more like a lizard of some kind. maybe an adapted kimodo? or what are those with fans around their necks that get really really big?
frogfish
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XD i probably should have jumped out there and made an educated guess on plesaosour. ^^; i think that's the right name for long necks anyway. a lot of people on here only seem to know the scientiic names for things. i'm not really into zoology of any kind so i'm not particular about what names i use unless it's something unknown. but yeah i thought pretty much everyone had heard of tha movie. and i'm pretty sure those are supposed to be a real breed of dinosour

Plesiosaurs are not dinosaurs...Plus, Mokele Mbembe is supposed to be some kind of sauropod...even though it is more likely a rhino.

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at any rate i like your idea of a new species of something but i'm not sure it would be a rihno. the description sounds more like a lizard of some kind. maybe an adapted kimodo? or what are those with fans around their necks that get really really big?

KOMODO Dragons live on the island of Komodo in Indonesia...no where close to Africa. Lizards with frills? You mean the Frilled Lizard, native to AUSTRALIA and does not grow any bigger than 2 feet?

You watch waaay too much Jurassic Park.
kourui
this is interesting...maybe some facts...anyone? original.gif
Acenaspheru
QUOTE(frogfish @ Mar 21 2006, 05:38 PM) [snapback]1114725[/snapback]

Plesiosaurs are not dinosaurs...Plus, Mokele Mbembe is supposed to be some kind of sauropod...even though it is more likely a rhino.
KOMODO Dragons live on the island of Komodo in Indonesia...no where close to Africa. Lizards with frills? You mean the Frilled Lizard, native to AUSTRALIA and does not grow any bigger than 2 feet?

You watch waaay too much Jurassic Park.


actually i don't like those movies. just because they're known to be in one place doesn't mean someone couldn't have brought them to africa, or perhaps was accidently brought over. you know, kind of like the wild pigs that are tearing up parts of Hawaii? And just a tip, but sarcasm is only good to a point.
frogfish
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just because they're known to be in one place doesn't mean someone couldn't have brought them to africa, or perhaps was accidently brought over.

I HIGHLY doubt Komodo dragons and frilled lizards are brought over to Africa. Plus, frilled lizards are small...not the monsters you claim it to be.

What sarcasm?
Robert1
A very interesting notion. But with the absense of facts I would prefer to keep
Dragons within the confines of fiction and folklore. thumbsup.gif
Twisted_Dragon
QUOTE(Acenaspheru @ Mar 21 2006, 01:11 PM) [snapback]1113999[/snapback]


XD i probably should have jumped out there and made an educated guess on plesaosour. ^^; i think that's the right name for long necks anyway. a lot of people on here only seem to know the scientiic names for things. i'm not really into zoology of any kind so i'm not particular about what names i use unless it's something unknown. blink.gif but yeah i thought pretty much everyone had heard of tha movie. and i'm pretty sure those are supposed to be a real breed of dinosour.


I have heard of the movie, and i saw like 1-4 but little foot was a brontosaurus to the best of my knowledge, there was never a "breed" (I think you mean species) of dinosaur called a long neck, though i belive either brontosaurus or brachiosaurus translates to "Long-necked lizard".
frogfish
The child's term "Long necks" refer to a group of DINOSAURS called SAUROPODS.
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