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Beckys_Mom

Mar 27 2006, 11:19 PM

QUOTE(zandore @ Mar 27 2006, 09:36 PM) [snapback]1123096[/snapback]

As I said.....using the Bible to prove the Bible......

Lets see what other books we can do that with?
For a start:
1) Moby Dick
2) Pinocchio
3) Cat in the Hat
4)

STAR WARS

Anybody else want to add?

Yea ok

5) Harry Potter
6) The Never Ending Story
7) The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrope
8) Sherlock Holmes

9) The Voyage of Sinbad
10) The Wizzard Of Oz

Tangerine Sheri

Mar 27 2006, 11:41 PM

QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Mar 27 2006, 05:19 PM) [snapback]1123284[/snapback]

Yea ok

5) Harry Potter
6) The Never Ending Story
7) The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrope
8) Sherlock Holmes

9) The Voyage of Sinbad
10) The Wizzard Of Oz

Aesops fables
Grimms fairy tales
Green eggs and ham
Alice in wonderland
The world according to Garp..............

Beckys_Mom

Mar 28 2006, 02:16 AM

Little Red ridinghood

The 3 little piggies

The little engine...that says I think I can

Bluefinger

Mar 28 2006, 07:28 AM

QUOTE(zandore @ Mar 27 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]1123096[/snapback]

As I said.....using the Bible to prove the Bible......

Lets see what other books we can do that with?
For a start:
1) Moby Dick
2) Pinocchio
3) Cat in the Hat
4)

STAR WARS

Anybody else want to add?

Ah, then I guess I'm at a loss for words. All I can say is that excavations of the town have been underway. This isn't Bible reference, but refers to a town in the Bible. I thought this would be credible. Sorry.

Permakid

Mar 28 2006, 07:45 AM

QUOTE(Bluefinger @ Mar 27 2006, 11:28 PM) [snapback]1123749[/snapback]

Aww

You're doing just fine, Bluefinger. Hang in there. I, for one, am actually learning quite a lot from both sides through reading this thread. That was kind of its' point in the first place. Besides, I don't think anyone can realistically expect to prove/disprove any religious views. That's why it's called "faith."

Bluefinger

Mar 28 2006, 08:01 AM

QUOTE(Permakid @ Mar 28 2006, 01:45 AM) [snapback]1123760[/snapback]

Aww

I wasn't exactly giving up. I was being sarcastic kinda. He wanted a Biblical reference of the town Nazareth in the OT. I told him there wasn't one because Nazareth wasn't that big a deal and most likely came about around the time that people weren't writing the Bible. I told him that they found excavations of the town, and he doesn't want to here it. But thanks for the ecouragement and its for yours and others that want to learn more about the faith that I even keep posting. God bless!

zandore

Mar 28 2006, 02:41 PM

QUOTE(Bluefinger @ Mar 28 2006, 03:01 AM) [snapback]1123771[/snapback]

I wasn't exactly giving up. I was being sarcastic kinda. He wanted a Biblical reference of the town Nazareth in the OT.

No I wanted "NON-BIBLICAL" references to the existence of Nazareth PRIOR to the 1st century AD and you told me to look it up for my self.
I said Nazareth was not mentioned in the OT.

heretic5

Aug 18 2007, 01:06 AM

QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Mar 21 2006, 04:23 AM)

I would answer it thus: The original words are the infallible word of God. There are a few MINOR contentious points , usually associated with translation from the original language and other such clerical errors. On the whole though, the Bible is remarkable well-preserved as far as discrepencies go.

Your point on corrupt man putting God's perfect word on paper, I would counter that by saying if God created us, and wanted to communicate, surely he would have had a failsafe, ensuring his ability to communicate effectively with us.

And for the KJV - I WOULD NOT deny the Old Testament! I don't know any Christian who would. What I would do is make mention of the many wrongs translated in the KJV, point them to a more reliable translation, and say that the scriptures in the original language are still there for us to use and cross-reference if you so need/choose.

But that's just me.....

Regards, PA

A recent discovery shows that the Bible contains the word of God and the word of humanity. It also shows how to separate the one from the other. The details are at http://greatriddle.flifree.com/c-bible-errancy.htm

antiaging

Aug 18 2007, 12:00 PM

QUOTE(Permakid @ Mar 20 2006, 05:01 AM)

I'm agnostic and a good friend of mine is Christian. I mean hard core Christian! He's studying at a very prestigious school working on a Master's degree in theology.

The other day, we were having one of our usual religious discussions. You know, he tells me I'm going to Hell and I tell him that his mind has been warped by fear tactics and childhood indoctrination (all jest, of course). Then he said something that blew my mind. My well-educated and normally very rational friend (except when it comes to religion IMO) actually believes that the Bible is infallible. He claims that it contains no contradictions whatsoever.

Now, I have no intention of trying to shake my friend's faith or anything like that because I believe in respecting other people's beliefs.* However, I would like to delve deeper into this theory of his, so I'm asking for your help. Please post your favorite Biblical contradictions here. Or, if you agree with my friend, defend/explain the contradictions.

Thanks!

*More detail on this respectful discussion between my friend and me can be found here: Post #14. Please don't lecture me on how I am being a bad friend unless you have read that post.

It is just too time consuming to show you how the apparent contradictions in the KJV bible are not contradictions. I am a KJV bible scholar that believes the KJV bible is the real bible, and it is infallible, WHEN IT IS UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY. I used to resolve apparent contradictions and show how they are not really contradictions but it is just too time consuming.

According to the scriptures, poeple that are not saved born again Christians can't understand the bible correctly. That is the real problem about these apparent contradictions, which are not really contradictions.
1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1 Corinthians 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Bye! -- Too time consuming to resolve the SUPPOSED contradictions for you.

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