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The Marijuana Conspiracy
THE REAL REASON HEMP IS ILLEGAL

And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger
in the land.


-- Ezekiel 34/29





The real reason Cannabis has been outlawed has nothing to do with its effects on the mind and body.

MARIJUANA is DANGEROUS. Pot is NOT harmful to the human body or mind. Marijuana does NOT pose a threat to the general public. Marijuana is very much a danger to the oil companies, alcohol, tobacco industries and a large number of chemical corporations. Various big businesses, with plenty of dollars and influence, have suppressed the truth from the people.


The truth is if marijuana was utilized for its vast array of commercial products, it would create an industrial atomic bomb! Entrepreneurs have not been educated on the product potential of pot. The super rich have conspired to spread misinformation about an extremely versatile plant that, if used properly, would ruin their companies.


Where did the word 'marijuana' come from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was created to tarnish the good image and phenomenal history of the hemp plant...as you will read. The facts cited here, with references, are generally verifiable in the Encyclopedia Britannica which was printed on hemp paper for 150 years:


* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974.


* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981.


* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.


* George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW HEMP; Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America.


* Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer.


* For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for cannabis; Webster's New World Dictionary.


* 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin.


* The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives.


* The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th Century; State Archives.


* Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt.


* Rembrants, Gainsboroughs, Van Goghs as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen.


* In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture


* Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act.


* Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.


* Hemp called 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 1938.


* Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article entitled 'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It stated that if hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the single largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world.


The following information comes directly from the United States Department of Agriculture's 1942 14-minute film encouraging and instructing 'patriotic American farmers' to grow 350,000 acres of hemp each year for the war effort:


'...(When) Grecian temples were new, hemp was already old in the service of mankind. For thousands of years, even then, this plant had been grown for cordage and cloth in China and elsewhere in the East. For centuries prior to about 1850, all the ships that sailed the western seas were rigged with hempen rope and sails. For the sailor, no less than the hangman, hemp was indispensable...

...Now with Philippine and East Indian sources of hemp in the hands of the Japanese...American hemp must meet the needs of our Army and Navy as well as of our industries...

...the Navy's rapidly dwindling reserves. When that is gone, American hemp will go on duty again; hemp for mooring ships; hemp for tow lines; hemp for tackle and gear; hemp for countless naval uses both on ship and shore. Just as in the days when Old Ironsides sailed the seas victorious with her hempen shrouds and hempen sails. Hemp for victory!'


Certified proof from the Library of Congress; found by the research of Jack Herer, refuting claims of other government agencies that the 1942 USDA film 'Hemp for Victory' did not exist.


Hemp cultivation and production do not harm the environment. The USDA Bulletin #404 concluded that hemp produces 4 times as much pulp with at least 4 to 7 times less pollution. From Popular Mechanics, Feb. 1938:


'It has a short growing season...It can be grown in any state...The long roots penetrate and break the soil to leave it in perfect condition for the next year's crop. The dense shock of leaves, 8 to 12 feet above the ground, chokes out weeds.
...hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably to American agriculture and industry.'


In the 1930s, innovations in farm machinery would have caused an industrial revolution when applied to hemp. This single resource could have created millions of new jobs generating thousands of quality products. Hemp, if not made illegal, would have brought America out of the Great Depression.


William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of timberlands. The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst's grandfather, a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose billions because of hemp.

In 1937, Dupont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. Dupont's Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil. Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of Dupont's business.



THE CONSPIRACY

Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.


Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of America.



MEDIA MANIPULATION

A media blitz of 'yellow journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst's newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality.


Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed.


Examine the following quotes from 'The Burning Question' aka REEFER MADNESS:


a violent narcotic.
acts of shocking violence.
incurable insanity.
soul-destroying effects.
under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an ax.
more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana!

Reefer Madness did not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN.


In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it had to be true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the parents of the baby-boomers.


On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter. He insured that the bill would pass Congress.


Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was hemp.


Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been reading about on Hearst's front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA understood cannabis to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products sold over the last hundred years.


In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since.


Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight.


Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet's energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices.





THE WONDER PLANT

Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime.




ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural.


MEDICINES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when the AMA supported cannabis cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out legally to only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on chemicals. Pot is only healthy for the human body.


WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming pot seeds is the best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds.


CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from pot, down to your grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist television. Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans?


The world is crazy...but that does not mean you have to join the insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes your children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word 'marijuana.' Realize the history that created it. Make it politically incorrect to say or print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to favor the agenda of the super rich) and the bulls***. Hemp must be utilized in the future. We need a clean energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE HEMP!

The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars a day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies. We have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: ‘It's more dangerous than we thought.’ Lies from the powerful corporations, that began with Hearst, are still alive and well today.

The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-pot commercials say: If you buy a joint...you are promoting TERRORISM! The new enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way THEY see fit.

There is only one enemy; the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the war-makers and nature destroyers. With your funding, they are killing the world right in front of your eyes. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL. NO ONE HAS EVER, EVER DIED FROM SMOKING POT!! In the entire history of the human race, not one death can be attributed to cannabis. Our society has outlawed grass but condones the use of the KILLERS: TOBACCO and ALCOHOL. Hemp should be declassified and placed in DRUG stores to relieve stress. Hardening and constriction of the arteries are bad; but hemp usage actually enlarges the arteries...which is a healthy condition. We have been so conditioned to think that: Smoking is harmful. That is NOT the case for passive pot.

Ingesting THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being.


{One personal note: During the pregnancy of my wife, she was having some difficulty gaining weight. We were in the hospital. A nurse called us to one side and said: ‘Off the record, if you smoke pot...you'd get something called the munchies and you’ll gain weight.' I swear that is a true story}.


The stereotype for a pothead is similar to a drunk, bubble-brain. Yet, the truth is one’s creative abilities can be enhanced under its influence. The perception of time slightly slows and one can become more sensitive. You can more appreciate all arts; be closer to nature and generally FEEL more under the influence of cannabis. It is, in fact, the exact opposite state of mind and body as the drunken state. You can be more aware with pot.


The pot plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that cannabis is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for cannabis. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuallity. Growers know to kill the males before they fertilize the females. Yes, folks...the most potent pot comes from 'horny females.'


The reason this amazing, very sophisticated, ET plant from the future is illegal has nothing to do with how it physically affects us…..

…POT IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!



ps: I think the word ‘DRUGS’ should not be used as an umbrella-word that covers all chemical agents. Drugs have come to be known as something BAD. Are you aware there are LEGAL drugstores?! Yep, in every city. Unbelievable. Each so-called drug should be considered individually. Cannabis is a medicine and not a drug. We should DARE to speak the TRUTH no matter what the law is.







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Related Links
www.healing-source.com (online sales of hemp seeds)


HEMP SEED: THE MOST NUTRITIONALLY COMPLETE FOOD SOURCE
IN THE WORLD http://www.ratical.org/renewables/hempseed1.html


HEMP, THE PREMIER RENEWABLE RESOURCE
http://www.ratical.org/renewables/index.html


Pot Shrinks Tumors; Government Knew in '74
In 1974 researchers learned that THC, the active chemical in marijuana, shrank or destroyed brain tumors in test mice. But the DEA quickly shut down the study and destroyed its results, which were never replicated -- until now. http://www.alternet.org/story/9257/


Major government studies on cannabis
http://www.cannabisculture.com/





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et's daddy
ok i appluad your thuroughness

but i do have a point and question

my point is that i do believe hemp is addictive, to some atleast, when they smoke it, which is bad

i have spoken to doctors that smoked it and then drove and they said it affected thier motor skills too much to safely do that

i smoke cigarettes and it has never affected my motor skills


there are countries where hemp is leagal, why arent they using it for oil ?

if other countries used it for oil, anyone just one documented case, i would much more easily buy the arguement
robbo1331
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 20 2006, 03:18 PM) [snapback]1112497[/snapback]

ok i appluad your thuroughness

but i do have a point and question

my point is that i do believe hemp is addictive, to some atleast, when they smoke it, which is bad

i have spoken to doctors that smoked it and then drove and they said it affected thier motor skills too much to safely do that

i smoke cigarettes and it has never affected my motor skills
there are countries where hemp is leagal, why arent they using it for oil ?

if other countries used it for oil, anyone just one documented case, i would much more easily buy the arguement


I've smoked it for years and its not physically addictive like cigarettes (i used to smoke) u don't crave for it or get frustrated etc but u do feel like u do feel like u need it, its a strange one its hard to explain but what i do know is that it turns u into a lazy git, as i say i've smoked it for years but in the last year i have hammered it and i've had more time off work through just skiving and through illness, it definatly lowers ur immune system if there's been a bug or a cold going round in the last year i have got it.
twopits
Very good info Louie.

Being a baby boomer I have partaked in this fabulous weed. Nothing about the effects of MaryJane in your post comes as a surprise to me. The history and its many uses did come as a surprise though, thanks for posting this.

HurtingSpirit
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 20 2006, 03:18 PM) [snapback]1112497[/snapback]

ok i appluad your thuroughness

but i do have a point and question

my point is that i do believe hemp is addictive, to some atleast, when they smoke it, which is bad

i have spoken to doctors that smoked it and then drove and they said it affected thier motor skills too much to safely do that

i smoke cigarettes and it has never affected my motor skills
there are countries where hemp is leagal, why arent they using it for oil ?

if other countries used it for oil, anyone just one documented case, i would much more easily buy the arguement


Well ET, you have a point in some ways I think. When I first started smoking marijuana back in 96, whenever I would smoke and drive, it SEVERELY effected my motor skills. But as time went on and I still smoked, that went away for the majority. Although it cannot possibly fully go away, I mean come on ur stoned rofl.gif ..
But ET, do you remember those first cigarettes when you were younger?? MANNNNNNNN, you cant tell me those didnt make you have the spins, get all dizzy, and feel goofy. Of course that went away with time, but so does that effect with marijuana.
et's daddy
now that you say that i agree lol

if i go several hours at work without a smoke, then suck one down quick i still get a little light headed

but i really have np with people smoking pot

i never did for my own reasons

my main question was about its use for oil, i have great intrest in that, as im sure many in the world do

but as i said, if it is so great, why isnt it being used in countries where it is leagal ?
robbo1331
QUOTE(HurtingSpirit @ Mar 20 2006, 04:06 PM) [snapback]1112556[/snapback]

Well ET, you have a point in some ways I think. When I first started smoking marijuana back in 96, whenever I would smoke and drive, it SEVERELY effected my motor skills. But as time went on and I still smoked, that went away for the majority. Although it cannot possibly fully go away, I mean come on ur stoned rofl.gif ..
But ET, do you remember those first cigarettes when you were younger?? MANNNNNNNN, you cant tell me those didnt make you have the spins, get all dizzy, and feel goofy. Of course that went away with time, but so does that effect with marijuana.


u do get used to it therefore the effects seem less but as u say ur still stoned. All i can say when u compare it with alcohol there's no comparison i mean not just the medical effects & the addictiveness(spelling probably wrong), when i used to go out drinking i'd get into all sorts of trouble fighting, criminal damage etc but now i don't get in any trouble (when i'm out drunk). So it might make us all mental but at least we won't fight each other grin2.gif
et's daddy
i do find it much safer then drinking

but i still wanna know about the oil

lol
Purplos
Hemp & marijuana are two different things that both come from the Cannabis plant.

"Cannabis is the only plant genus that contains the unique class of molecular compounds called cannabinoids. Many cannabinoids have been identified, but two preponderate: THC, which is the psychoactive ingredient of Cannabis, and CBD, which is an antipsychoactive ingredient. One type of Cannabis is high in the psychoactive cannabinoid, THC, and low in the antipsychoactive cannabinoid, CBD. This type is popularly known as marijuana. Another type is high in CBD and low in THC. Variants of this type are called industrial hemp. "

http://www.naihc.org/hemp_information/content/hemp.mj.html

You can buy hemp products legally.
robbo1331
QUOTE(Purplos @ Mar 20 2006, 05:46 PM) [snapback]1112670[/snapback]

You can buy hemp products legally.


U're right i've got a t-shirt made out of hemp, purchased from a high street store
jobot37
I did a bunch of research on this subject a while back and there is some information which is completely vital to this arguement. If someone wanted to smoke hemp to get high (hemp not marijuana) they would have to smoke 40 pounds, and would be throwing up and curled into the fetal position before they could get that far. Marijuana affects the mental synapses and what not, but hemp is a very different plant that poses no threat to peoples safety, health, or whatever you can think of. The only reason hemp has such a bad reputation is that some politicians cannot tell the difference and that hemp looks similar to marijuana. Marijuana contains THC, hemp ( for all practical reasons) does not, it is there but only inh miniscule amounts, and would theoretically be pretty easy to breed a variety of hemp that contains none at all.
riotboy555
only in america gunsmilie.gif
Kaknelson
Very impressive argument. Keep up the good work Louie.

Legalize it !!
Bebi
Damn... Purplos and Jobot beat me to explaining the differences between hemp and marijuana tongue.gif

As for marijuana causing mental illness, I find it helps mine. It stops the thoughts that run through my head 24/7 much better than this so-called medication I'm on...
speaker of the house
Freakin Pot Heads...they'll say anything in an attempt to legalize weed no.gif
bboy
If you're a smoker, and the spelling in your thread title is caused by that, then I never want to smoke marijuana, EVER!
Dark Bloody Wind Goddess Haruka
personally i think it should be legal weed that is just make it like alcohal dont drive iv tryed it once i wouldnt do it again because yea it hurts your lungs but it doesnt dramatically change you a few friends have gotten paraniod because of it but its not like drinking where youll do anything it didnt take away my fear of heights but it did make me run into a wall it just makes you feel good
dnb420
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Aticus
Every one of you is missing the point here. The point is that hemp can be used for hundreds of uses. Smoking it is one of the last things that should be on the list, but it is beneficial also if done in moderation as everything should be done.
This plant is truly God's miracle plant which has been taken away from us by the Luciferians that control this damned planet
jobot37
QUOTE(Aticus @ Mar 25 2006, 08:26 PM) [snapback]1120967[/snapback]

Smoking it is one of the last things that should be on the list,


Especially because smoking hemp would only make you sick...
dnb420
Everybody Must Get Stoned
Cycledelic
The uses and benefits of hemp are endless. The company I am doing web work for sells nothing buy hemp and organic cotton clothes, and hemp based food products also.

Many people are waking up to the benefits as oil based products are increasingly depended upon. Hemp seed is extremely healthy and protein rich - a great subsitute for meat for all the veggies out there. original.gif

Hemp clothing can be made very soft and lasts much longer than cotton, and is more durable also. These are simply the popular consumer benefits, but it is still a SHAME that the use is so realtively small compared to other products.
Mr. Blonde
Hemp is a multiuse crop, it can be used to create any type of clothing really, rope, sh**ty itchy blankets, or a groovy backpack, which i happen to use haha. But it also can be used to power cars & all that sh** with a proper generator ect ect. I think JFK wanted to do that haha, but never did. But yeah, dont smoke Hemp, thats so stupid & dont legalize pot either.
et's daddy
i weep for the future

seems most of you here promoting smoking pot couldnt spell your way out of the 1st grade

and i have yet to see anyone explain why if it is so great for so many uses, why arent the countries where it is leagle using it for oil and gas for cars ?

and dark bloody, i dont know wth youve been drinking but ive never seen it do away with a fear of heights or anything like that
dnb420
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 26 2006, 11:02 PM) [snapback]1121799[/snapback]

i weep for the future

seems most of you here promoting smoking pot couldnt spell your way out of the 1st grade

and i have yet to see anyone explain why if it is so great for so many uses, why arent the countries where it is leagle using it for oil and gas for cars ?

and dark bloody, i dont know wth youve been drinking but ive never seen it do away with a fear of heights or anything like that

Um, look at my posts, then look at yours. You can't even form a correct sentence let alone a paragraph. Please don't stereotype, there are 'less smart' people everywhere.
Bebi
QUOTE(Dark Bloody Wind Goddess Haruka @ Mar 23 2006, 11:17 PM) [snapback]1117744[/snapback]

personally i think it should be legal weed that is just make it like alcohal dont drive iv tryed it once i wouldnt do it again because yea it hurts your lungs but it doesnt dramatically change you a few friends have gotten paraniod because of it but its not like drinking where youll do anything it didnt take away my fear of heights but it did make me run into a wall it just makes you feel good


The main reason marijuana hasn't been legalised is because before now there was no test that will show you've been smoking it recently. The current test available only showed if you've smoked it in the last few weeks, there is no way the authorities could test at the roadside like they can for alcohol. However, there is a test developed that checks the fingerprint for drug residue. I do have some concerns about this test, what happens if you've not actually been using, just picked up some residue on your hands round a friends house?

By the way, I'm smoking marijuana at the moment - how's my spelling? tongue.gif



Edit: This quote shows how easy it is to get a false positive...
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2.2 DrugAlert:
DrugAlert is a $19.95 home test kit enabling parents to test their children. This is the most inaccurate test being used, and it's also the newest. The test kit is a small brown pad giving off an Oxy pad odor. The [uninformed] parent wipes the child's clothes, books, and anything belonging to the child. Then the pad is sent to Barringer Technologies via mail. (Note that it's a felony to send controlled substances through the mail. If the sample is positive, Barringer Technologies is knowingly urging parents to break the law). The lab puts the pad in a microwave looking machine, which detects residue from seven different illicit drugs. The child fails the test if s/he uses drugs, or unknowingly comes in casual contact with a drug user. Simply borrowing a pencil from a classmate that uses drugs will pass enough residue to render a positive test and an angry parent. When we have statistics like - 90% of all paper currency shows traces of cocaine, this test kit is quite foolish. Your only defense is to continually clean everything you touch with disinfectants.


http://www.marijuana.com/2b.php3
Snowball
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 27 2006, 12:02 AM) [snapback]1121799[/snapback]

i weep for the future.

It seems most of you here promoting smoking pot couldn't spell your way out of the 1st grade.

and i have yet to see anyone explain why if it is so great for so many uses, why aren't the countries where it is leagle using it for oil and gas for cars ?

and
dark bloody, i don't know wth you've been drinking but i've never seen it do away with a fear of heights or anything like that.


16 spelling or grammatical errors, and you accuse others of not being able to spell their way out of the first grade.
jobot37
O_o....apostrophes are not errors...
lonelyalpacafarmer
QUOTE(Snowball @ Mar 30 2006, 11:46 AM) [snapback]1126706[/snapback]

16 spelling or grammatical errors, and you accuse others of not being able to spell their way out of the first grade.


LOL
Kaknelson
" To smoke or not to smoke, that is the question: "

- Ganjearean Shakespearean
louie
spelling or not you guys are missing the point.
its not about smoking pot to get stoned its about the benifits in so many areas of hemp and why are they being crimnalised and not being used to benifet people by the very large companys that produce synthic drugs when many cures are allready in nature..
and i agree a spell check would be invaluable in these forums.
Kaknelson
My question is as follows:



devil.gif How is tobacco, or better known as cigarettes, still completely legal? The tobacco industry kills more Americans than AIDS, alcohol, car accidents, murders, suicides, drugs and fires combined. This is a known fact, not to mention the highly addictiveness aswell.
I have known many Ganja smokers, hemp activists, big marijuana smokers, and i have never heard of anyone killed from the consumption of it. Infact, in Jamaica Rastafarians smoke and use hemp from early ages starting at the age of 13 or younger until death. Rastas live a natural life, growing and never cutting hair, or any flesh, and cleaning with only pure water. They're diet is strictly organic aswell. These people condone hemp, and believe it was a sacred herb from god, written in the bible, grown around the grave of King Solomon.

As far as i know, there have never been any recorded deaths due to Marijuana/Hemp. Tobacco evidently kills, they should switch these laws around.
JeremyGTS
yeah hemp is great i used hemp lotion before and my hands were sooo soft. grin2.gif and yes i do like to endulge myself every day a few times a day and i can drive fine... and its been like this since i was 15 im 20 now.
jobot37
Everyone seems to be missing the fact that marijuana and hemp are not the same thing! Hemp is a completely harmless plant with thousands of practical uses. I don't care if marijuana is legalized or not, that doesn't affect me or the way I live, but demonizing hemp because it bears a superficial resemblance to marijuana is simply ignorant.
Bebi
Well said Jobot thumbsup.gif

Going back to the OP and this sentence "Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. ".... I found this pic online while browsing and thought I'd share.

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ToySouljah
QUOTE(dnb420 @ Mar 26 2006, 05:21 PM) [snapback]1121823[/snapback]

Um, look at my posts, then look at yours. You can't even form a correct sentence let alone a paragraph. Please don't stereotype, there are 'less smart' people everywhere.



Yeah, I'm a smoker too. I started smoking in the 6th grade and still smoke to this day (I'm 26 now). So for about 13 years I've smoked and I hold down a job and am a "productive member of society". So the idea that smoking makes you stupid is well....stupid...lol. It's just a shame that I have to keep it a secret for the fear of losing my job, and yet you are legally aloud to drink yourself to death. Now that to me is stupid. I personally don't drink since I don't like the taste or effects that it has on me.
Kryso
QUOTE(speaker of the house @ Mar 23 2006, 01:33 PM) [snapback]1116898[/snapback]

Freakin Pot Heads...they'll say anything in an attempt to legalize weed no.gif


I think you have missed the whole point of the thread!

QUOTE(louie @ Mar 31 2006, 09:37 AM) [snapback]1128107[/snapback]

its not about smoking pot to get stoned its about the benifits in so many areas of hemp and why are they being crimnalised and not being used to benifet people by the very large companys that produce synthic drugs when many cures are allready in nature..

QUOTE(jobot37 @ Apr 1 2006, 12:21 PM) [snapback]1129593[/snapback]

Everyone seems to be missing the fact that marijuana and hemp are not the same thing! Hemp is a completely harmless plant with thousands of practical uses. I don't care if marijuana is legalized or not, that doesn't affect me or the way I live, but demonizing hemp because it bears a superficial resemblance to marijuana is simply ignorant.

Its not about the drug side of it, but rather the benefits of the Hemp plant in everyday use! As stated above!
moomooman
So next time I get me a bag of seed infested weed I should eat the seeds? I knew they had protein I mean come on, they're seeds, but they have good fatty acids in them? Are they like omega 3's or anything? Hemp seeds and weed seeds should be basically the same thing right? Would you have to use oil from the seeds Because some weed seems oily already. Hemp is very versatile, but to people who think smoking weed for the THC is bad, just remember that all the health risks can be taken out by eating it, or using a vaporizer.
et's daddy
QUOTE(Kryso @ Apr 2 2006, 11:15 AM) [snapback]1130939[/snapback]

I think you have missed the whole point of the thread!



Its not about the drug side of it, but rather the benefits of the Hemp plant in everyday use! As stated above!


after all the posts here endorsing smoking pot you pick his out ?

and i have yet to see one explain why if it is such a great oil to run cars it isn't used where its legal
moomooman
Cause in the countries where it's legal they smoke it and then watch t..v not drive cars.
Snowball
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Apr 3 2006, 01:00 AM) [snapback]1131376[/snapback]

after all the posts here endorsing smoking pot you pick his out ?

and i have yet to see one explain why if it is such a great oil to run cars it isn't used where its legal


Where is it legal?
Kaknelson
How does marijuana impact the body? “The Cannabinoid Network”
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Cannbinoid: The Journal of Clinical Investigation study showed rats given a cannabinoid were less anxious and less depressed.
But UK experts warned other conflicting research had linked cannabis, and other cannabinoids, to an increased risk of depression and anxiety.
They suggested this could be because different cannabinoids acting at different levels have contradictory effects.
Cannabinoids have been shown to relieve the symptoms of multiple sclerosis and pain relief in humans.
They are naturally present in the body, as well as being found in cannabis.


As soon as the oil-based marijuana molecules contact almost any part of our body, there is instant, enthusiastic, electromagnetic recognition through an extremely sophisticated mechanism designed to respond only to cannabinoids. There are two kinds of cannabinoid compounds: cannabinoids from the marijuana plant and cannabinoids produced in the brain. Both activate certain structures on many of our cells that are called “cannabinoid receptors.” These are specifically “keyed” receptor-molecules that are embedded in cells throughout our body, in all our systems, including circulatory, neurological and immune, and in most areas of our brain, in our reproductive organs, our stomach, heart, pharanx, lungs, in our eyes. and all over our skin. The main cannabinoid produced in our brain was aptly named “anandamide,” from the Sanskrit word ananda which means “bliss,” in honor of its marijuana-like effect of contentment. Interestingly, the brain cannabinoid is actually a completely different shape than the plant compound evidencing a subtle, electro-magnetic identity of charge between the two – perhaps harkening backward in time to before the division between the vegetable and animal kingdoms.

The cannabinoids and their receptors are intricately connected to each other in network like fashion – actively engaged all the time. Each receptor is like a little computer station (receiving, sending and storing messages) and all the receptors are exclusively connected to each other, and all of course to Hypothalamic Headquarters. Each of these single receptors can be imagined as uniquely-designed relay stations designed to carry out the main goal from above, which, of course, is healthy balance. This is affected by the cannabinoids (plant or brain) which “dock” onto the receptors, thereby activating their processes. Cannabinoids work like master keys or passwords and at any moment – hundreds, perhaps hundreds of thousands of dockings will be taking place, some will result in turning the specific computer-station on, some will be interpreted as holding patterns, while still others will produce a shut down or slow down in the station’s reactions. The appropriate activation to fulfill the mission of homeostasis (balance) is carried out via chemical changes in each of the cells.

“...the system appears to modulate the excitability and responsiveness of neurons by influencing intra-neuronal events such as the formation of energy-providing compound and the transport of calcium and potassium across the nerve membranes. In this covert role, the cannabinoid - andamide system undoubtedly interacts with many other neurotransmitter/neuro-modulator systems.” (British Medical Association)

The net effect of all of these continuous “bindings” to receptor sites of the Cannabinoid Network is a “chemical event” of the most subtle, yet far-reaching kind. Cannabinoids affect almost every body system. Their receptors are found abundantly in the Hypothalamus suggesting autonomic processes are directly connected to the Cannabinoid Network which (from all the scientific tests) is working toward moderating our responses. The over-reactivity of our imbalanced systems appear to be calmed quite noticeably with the marijuana compounds, most probably because the receptors attach to the plant’s molecules with 2 or 3 times more affinity than they do with anandamide. So with marijuana, more of our natural receptors are being activated which does not suggest more cell activity but may actually quiet or slow (re)activity to accomplish balance – consequently quieting the organism.

We can speculate that marijuana enhances all the functioning of the Cannabinoid Network so naturally because of its prehistoric connection, “conserved throughout evolution for over 500 million years”...with our organisms which according to the latest research, suggests an important and basic function.”

“(Cannabinoids operate) in tonal control of certain functions. As a tuning system of numerous finely regulated physiological functions... disruption may cause and / or contribute to some disorders in both the central and the peripheral tissues... may... exert a neuro - modulating role...and in tuning of hypothalamic functions... may interact with hypothalamic thermo-regulatory centres, ...may act as chemical signals between different immune cells or between sensory fibers and blood cells. Moreover the wake / sleep cycle could also be regulated by (body) cannabinoids.” (DiMarzo)

Actually, the expansive extent of what this means has not been digested by the scientific community sufficiently; it cannot therefore distance itself from the details to see the whole picture. Two issues are relevant:

1) What are the anthropological implications of the fact that our own receptors prefer marijuana cannabinoids to anandamide?, and

2) What is the holistic interpretation of the full effects of marijuana on the body?

Since marijuana molecules are more attractive to our receptors than our own brain cannabinoids are, the fact that the form of these two type cannabinoids is so different is significant. The question is: which came first on the evolutionary tree? Since the receptor does not answer to shape (form) in reference to its cannabinoid-connection, science has determined that the key to opening the receptor is actually an electromagnetic lineage. This then is a vibratory signature unique to compounds that activate cannabinoid receptors. Following this logic, we hypothesize that the structure of brain cannabinoids took shape during the division of life into plants and later into animals (suited to its different hosts). Since seed plants were the dominant earth life 100 million years ago, eons before our ancestors first inhabited the planet, we can deduce that the plant cannabinoid is the evolutionary precursor. It carries the original charge (before separation into different forms) which is why our organisms recognize it immediately. The re-boot or alteration from dormancy, i.e., the awakening from being in an unconscious freeze to being activated to consciousness-raising balance is the marijuana experience of non-separateness – now explained – at the cellular level – which can be viewed as a chemical remembering, a biological deja vu.

Our stress-filled days constitute a constant taxing of our life systems that causes a predictable degradation in the body’s balancing mechanism, and results in a circle of distress. “Burn-out” can be understood as the farthest extension of over-reactivity. Our organisms are always trying to re-balance themselves at the fundamental cellular level. Marijuana molecules, in their ability to evoke responsiveness from a system that has stopped responding effectively (because of burn-out from too much action in our life situations), are serving as a channel back – to before differentiation.

Further, this over-used mechanism theory fits with the lack of recognized effects of marijuana in children. Tests with children and reports on children and marijuana indicate that they often don’t note any alteration in consciousness. This may well be because their systems have not yet been abused and they are still chemically new, not degraded and in precise working order. Not burnt- out. They don’t notice a difference because there is no difference. Their natural Cannabinoid Network is still working on all fronts.

http://www.benefitsofmarijuana.com/ask.html


Bebi
QUOTE(Snowball @ Apr 3 2006, 09:06 AM) [snapback]1131707[/snapback]

Where is it legal?


Amsterdam for one.

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Kaknelson, very interesting and informative post, thanks thumbsup.gif
Purplos
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Apr 2 2006, 08:00 PM) [snapback]1131376[/snapback]



and i have yet to see one explain why if it is such a great oil to run cars it isn't used where its legal


Why don't we get all our electricity from solar power? Why don't we all use bio-diesel? Because petroleum products are still being used.

I've never heard of hemp oil being used for running cars. It does have a high Omega-3 amount though. My son gets some daily. Tastes a lot better than salmon oil.
moomooman
So eating the seeds would give me omega-3 then? Would eating weed also give me omega-3, cause i got those damn fish pills that stink bad.
Snowball
QUOTE(Bebi @ Apr 3 2006, 12:04 PM) [snapback]1131761[/snapback]

Amsterdam for one.

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Kaknelson, very interesting and informative post, thanks thumbsup.gif


It isn't legal, it's just tolerated, there's a similar situation in Portugal, but I think you'd be hard pushed to find anywhere where cannabis is actually legal rather than merely tolerated.

Non-enforcement

Cannabis remains a controlled substance in the Netherlands and both possession and production for personal use are still misdemeanors, punishable by fine. Coffee shops are also illegal according to the statutes.

However, a policy of non-enforcement has led to a situation where reliance upon non-enforcement has become common, and because of this the courts have ruled against the government when individual cases were prosecuted.

This is because the Dutch Ministry of Justice applies a gedoogbeleid (policy of tolerance) with regard to soft drugs: an official set of guidelines telling public prosecutors under which circumstances offenders should not be prosecuted. This is a more official version of the common practice in other countries, in which law enforcement sets priorities as to which offenses are important enough to spend limited resources on.

Proponents of gedoogbeleid argue that such a policy offers more consistency in legal protection in practice, than without it. Opponents of the Dutch drug policy either call for full legalization, or argue that laws should penalize morally wrong or decadent behavior, whether this is enforceable or not.

In the Dutch courts, however, it has long been determined that the institutionalized non-enforcement of statutes with well defined limits constitutes de facto decriminalization. The statutes are kept on the books mainly due to international pressure and in adherence with international treaties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_the_Netherlands
Kaknelson
Snowball:

To me personally, and others, It should be legal, i do not consider it a drug at all. It can be smoked regularly, and has shown to be cleaner (compared to other smoke type pruducts) for your system, in that people haven't died. Im not saying one should attempt to be a "guniea pig" in the situation. But i have known those that have lived long healthy humble lives smoking ganja. Hemps possiblities are endless, in more ways than just smoke, as louie says. As it is natural and easily producable, and a possible money saver. However, Tobacco on the other hand, should logically be illegal. Hemp and any other product related to Hemp should be legal. aka. Cannabis. Just due to the death ratio facts. Tobacco is horrifically addicting, and is digging the graves of the adicts as they puff today. The world should open their eyes to the truth.
Snowball
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Apr 4 2006, 09:53 AM) [snapback]1132928[/snapback]

Snowball:

To me personally, and others, It should be legal, i do not consider it a drug at all. It can be smoked regularly, and has shown to be cleaner (compared to other smoke type pruducts) for your system, in that people haven't died. Im not saying one should attempt to be a "guniea pig" in the situation. But i have known those that have lived long healthy humble lives smoking ganja. Hemps possiblities are endless, in more ways than just smoke, as louie says. As it is natural and easily producable, and a possible money saver. However, Tobacco on the other hand, should logically be illegal. Hemp and any other product related to Hemp should be legal. aka. Cannabis. Just due to the death ratio facts. Tobacco is horrifically addicting, and is digging the graves of the adicts as they puff today. The world should open their eyes to the truth.


I totally agree, the reasons for controlling the substance seem to be far less involved with health issues than either tabacoo and/or alcohol which seems to point towards some other reason, which may well be the reasons mentioned at the beginning of this thread. I was just trying to make ET aware that his 'Why aren't they using it where it legal' argument doesn't hold water, it isn't legal anywhere AFAIK.
Bebi
QUOTE(Snowball @ Apr 4 2006, 09:26 AM) [snapback]1132906[/snapback]

It isn't legal, it's just tolerated, there's a similar situation in Portugal, but I think you'd be hard pushed to find anywhere where cannabis is actually legal rather than merely tolerated.


Thanks Snowball, my mistake original.gif
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