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frogfish
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Can you prove it frogfish?????

The toothfairy? Yes, it was a myth made up by parents to collect the teeth of their children.
novaceleste
QUOTE(420_toker @ Mar 23 2006, 02:13 PM) [snapback]1117508[/snapback]

Was I the only one brought up not be a jack ass to a female?

Thank you Toker!
novaceleste
Yes Forgfish, I know what the toothfairy is. I am a parent and we only did that until our kids were 7. I think you are getting off the subject because you can't prove anything.
frogfish
What do you want me to prove then?
Pax Unum
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Mar 23 2006, 02:06 PM) [snapback]1117482[/snapback]

But there are still people who believe. And there are some unexplained events that happen around fairie mounds. Can you PROVE fairies and nymphs are just myths?????? no.gif


A fairy is a mythical being of folklore and romance. Fairies are often depicted as diminutive winged humans with magical powers. The tooth fairy exchanges presents, usually coins, for teeth left out or under one's pillow at night. Fairy godmothers are protective beings, like guardian angels.

so, are there tooth faires, and fairy godmothers as well?.... dontgetit.gif
Robert1
Alisa, your last three photos were definitely much clearer than the others you've
posted. Thats what I meant when I said to keep taking photos and maybe you'll
capture one that will convince us all. I'm not saying that I believe in fairies or that
you captured a photo of one. I'm still very skeptical about this subject but you are
on the right track. Keep up the good work. thumbsup.gif
novaceleste
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Mar 23 2006, 02:22 PM) [snapback]1117540[/snapback]

A fairy is a mythical being of folklore and romance. Fairies are often depicted as diminutive winged humans with magical powers. The tooth fairy exchanges presents, usually coins, for teeth left out or under one's pillow at night. Fairy godmothers are protective beings, like guardian angels.

so, are there tooth faires, and fairy godmothers as well?.... dontgetit.gif

I think we were discussing nature spirits. Toothfairies and Fairy Godmothers were made up by parents and Disney!
frogfish
Again, they were just leaves that wer eoutlined to look like something...Kind of like how the mind sees boats, cars, and faces in clouds.
GrayTone
QUOTE(420_toker @ Mar 23 2006, 12:09 PM) [snapback]1117493[/snapback]

Ok so what about this one?

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So no one has an explanation for this one?
frogfish
A flower bud or dead leaf thumbsup.gif
novaceleste
I can say that isn't just a plant. To me the pictures aren't clear enough to say what it is.
GrayTone
She should go back to where she took the pictures. See if in fact there is a bud or leaf with facial features. If its a dryed out bud, she could pass it off as a fairy head and make millions.
frogfish
I bet she could tongue.gif
Pax Unum
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Mar 23 2006, 02:24 PM) [snapback]1117546[/snapback]

I think we were discussing nature spirits. Toothfairies and Fairy Godmothers were made up by parents and Disney!


There's a tradition from 18th century France of a "tooth mouse," likely based on a fairy tale, La Bonne Petite Souris, in which a fairy changes into a mouse (or perhaps the other way around) to help the good queen defeat the evil king. The mouse hides under a pillow to taunt the king, and punishes him by knocking out all his teeth. Perhaps this was the origin of the tooth fairy, but no one knows for sure.

The tooth fairy as we now know her didn't make an appearance until the early 1900s, as a generalized "good fairy" with a professional specialization. The child loses a baby tooth, which is put under the pillow at night, and the tooth fairy exchanges it for a present, usually money but sometimes candy. Exchanges of this sort are common in many rites of passage (like an exchange of rings at a wedding, say).

The tooth fairy grew slowly in popularity over the next few decades. The Tooth Fairy, a three-act playlet for children by Esther Watkins Arnold, was published in 1927. Lee Rogow's story "The Tooth Fairy" appeared in 1949 and seems to be the first children's story written about the tooth fairy. She became widely popular from the 1950s onward, with a veritable eruption of children's books, cartoons, jokes, etc., including more focus on children's dental hygiene. Parents cheerfully bought into the idea and the tooth fairy became part of family life. The 1980s saw the commercialization and merchandising of the tooth fairy, with special pillows, dolls, banks, etc.

What's the origin of the tooth fairy?
Alisa
I have found all the comments very enlightening. Thanks!

I have couple of points that I want to make in response to some of the posts. Firstly, about motive and money making...all of the photos I take and the book I have written thus far are free. I feel too passionate about the wonders that I am finding to chance anyone missing out on them by not wanting to pay a fee.

Secondly, my personal philosophy has changed over the past few years of spirit world exploration. I decided that I believe most people are sincere and genuine. I choose to treat everyone I meet as innocent and honest until proven otherwise. I have found it rare to meet pathological liars, and though they exist, why should the majority of us be penalized for the insincerity of the few?

As for whether the fairies are leaves, or the wolf is sky and trees, in these photos that I borrowed from another gallery to make this point, see how the spirit world uses objects in the physical world to manifest? So while one person may argue that this picture is of bed sheets and pyjamas, and another argues it is of a man in a fishing hat, can't they both be correct?

(I believe this man in the hat is a spirit connected to the patient who used the physical surroundings to project his image in the same way the wolf showed himself using the sky and trees--they want to be seen).

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GrayTone
Am I to be looking at the blue tubes?
novaceleste
Alisa, I really, really, really want to see these things, believe be I do. I also find you words very enlightening and true to my beliefs as well. Please help me to see the picture of the man. Maybe I'm a moron. crying.gif
Sweetsalem82103
I think the picture looks too much like that little cartoon girl strawberry shortcake. . .it was hard to see it at first because I wasn't sure what I was looking for. . .I don't believe it. . .unless there are little strawberry shortcake girls running around. . .that'd be weirder than faeries. . .not saying I don't believe in them, because I'm pagan and very interested in the subject. ..I just don't think they're likely to be photographed. As for the Cottingly photos, they were all disproven. Besides, the idea that faeries were tiny little winged things didn't come up til the victorian era. Shakespeare did a good bit in encouraging that idea with his works, especially "A Midsummer Night's Dream". They were originally human sized or larger if you read the older accounts. More like the elves in LOTR. Try reading The Fairy Faith In Celtic Countries if you are really interested in the subject.
Sweetsalem82103
I think, if memory serves me correctly, that smaller "faerie" creatures do exist, but they aren't faeries in the traditional sense. "Faerie" is a generic term used to explain many different types of beings. True faeries are, like I said earlier, human sized or larger. Elementals may be smaller, as are things like gnomes. A Witch's Guide to Faery Folk by Edain McCoy is another good book to check out on the subject.
novaceleste
QUOTE(Sweetsalem82103 @ Mar 23 2006, 05:20 PM) [snapback]1117845[/snapback]

I think the picture looks too much like that little cartoon girl strawberry shortcake. . .it was hard to see it at first because I wasn't sure what I was looking for. . .I don't believe it. . .unless there are little strawberry shortcake girls running around. . .that'd be weirder than faeries. . .not saying I don't believe in them, because I'm pagan and very interested in the subject. ..I just don't think they're likely to be photographed. As for the Cottingly photos, they were all disproven. Besides, the idea that faeries were tiny little winged things didn't come up til the victorian era. Shakespeare did a good bit in encouraging that idea with his works, especially "A Midsummer Night's Dream". They were originally human sized or larger if you read the older accounts. More like the elves in LOTR. Try reading The Fairy Faith In Celtic Countries if you are really interested in the subject.

I agree with the Shakespeare comment. That is a great play and book.
GrayTone
Damn I knew thos things reminded me of something, a few of them look EXACLTY like the sh** my little sister use to play with
novaceleste
QUOTE(420_toker @ Mar 23 2006, 05:52 PM) [snapback]1117889[/snapback]

Damn I knew thos things reminded me of something, a few of them look EXACLTY like the sh** my little sister use to play with

Please explain to me what exactly we are to be looking at in that picture. I can't see it.
Alisa
Here is an outline around the man in the fishing hat. Original below for comparison...

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The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Alisa @ Mar 23 2006, 06:00 PM) [snapback]1117900[/snapback]

Here is an outline around the man in the fishing hat. Original below for comparison...

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Looks like a lighting effect. I think you are wanting to see all this.
novaceleste
I can only see the bed sheets. sad.gif
Alisa
In response to comments, I agree that the pink and blue fairy does look very cartoony. I think he's dang cute. Many of the fairies that live around here or that I photograph seem to have this look. If I was going to fake a fairy, I would have been more apt to do the Cottingley fairy type or this: user posted image

But I was not even thinking about fairies at the time I was originally photographing them. I was trying to capture orbs and spirits. In fact, one photo had a fairy sitting under a tree that was very crisp and clear. I was so sure there were no fairies that I wrote this off as an interesting optical illusion, but not part of my spirit collecting interest. I didn't give the photo a second thought and deleted it. I nearly cried when I found this first Strawberry Shortcake fairy (good description, Sweetsalem) in my photo and then remembered deleting the fairy sitting under the tree a few days before. crying.gif

But I have to dispute the idea that Shakespeare was the first person to mention fairies. To state this as a fact would mean that the person stating it had read every single piece of literature written before Shakespears Midsummer Night's Dream. Otherwise, how do you know? I actually find that the fact there is so much literature and tales referring to fairies to be validating of them. Some people see them without the aid of a camera. There are plenty of stories of people seeing all kinds of folktale things. Hundreds of what I consider amazing, believable experiences from ordinary people are here:

http://paranormal.about.com/library/bltales.htm

Unless every single one of these people are lying, then there is a lot of amazing stuff going on out in the world. wink2.gif


novaceleste
There are amazing and magickal things happening all the time. But catching something on film is difficult!
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Alisa @ Mar 23 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]1117927[/snapback]



there is a lot of amazing stuff going on out in the world. wink2.gif

Or maybe theres not. Maybe life is just a little boring. Maybe imagination explains alot of things.
novaceleste
How can you say life is boring. It is what you make of it, right? Anyways, anyone who has experienced a true synchroncity can't tell me that amazing things don't happen.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Mar 23 2006, 06:30 PM) [snapback]1117937[/snapback]

How can you say life is boring. It is what you make of it, right? Anyways, anyone who has experienced a true synchroncity can't tell me that amazing things don't happen.

I am saying lot of people are disenchanted with how normal life is, so they invent stuff.
GrayTone
True, alot of it is imagination. But there's still strange things happening every day, things no one can totaly explain.
novaceleste
Toker, I'm with you on this one. There is always something magickal happening to someone somwhere.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(420_toker @ Mar 23 2006, 06:33 PM) [snapback]1117942[/snapback]

True, alot of it is imagination. But there's still strange things happening every day, things no one can explain.

Maybe, but fairies are not one of them.lol
novaceleste
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Mar 23 2006, 06:35 PM) [snapback]1117945[/snapback]

Maybe, but fairies are not one of them.lol

okay, as I said to frogfish eariler, can you prove they don't exist???? no.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Mar 23 2006, 06:37 PM) [snapback]1117946[/snapback]

okay, as I said to frogfish eariler, can you prove they don't exist???? no.gif

It is not up to me to prove they don't exist.Thats what normal people already think. Extrodinary claims require extrodinary proof.
GrayTone
Its pretty hard to prove the un-exsistance of something
Alisa
Regarding the photo of the guy in the hospital, here is the original link:

http://paranormal.about.com/library/blgallery52.htm

Here is the blurb under the photo:

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These photos were taken within a couple of seconds on my digital Nikon camera. It's the picture of a dear friend struggling to stay alive. Arnold is 80 years old and entered the hospital to have knee replacement and ended up having heart surgery that lead to infection, kidney failure and fluid on his lungs. Family came in from all around the country on the advice of the doctors. Some how although Arnold was in a coma for days he has continued to live and after a couple of weeks he opened his eyes. He has had more surgery to relief the lung fluids and been put on a kidney machine and is still holding on. The first picture I snapped is the cloudy one and at that time I felt a warmth at the foot of his bed, even though the air conditioning was on.


My interpretation is that the mist (what I see as a human orb) is a spirit connected to this hospital patient. For whatever reason (not knowing this man's background) this spirit is showing as a man in a fishing hat. I have found that in spirit photos I take, or those I have seen, most frequently a spirit is seen in one photo, but is not there in the next.

It is subject to your interpretation and belief whether it is a camera glitch, a passing physical vapor, a spirit, or whatever else. Personally, I have no doubt it is a spirit, and this is one of my favorite spirit photos.
novaceleste
There are truely normal people that live in Ireland and most of the country believes in them...go figure.
frogfish
And many more people don't believe in them.
psyche101
QUOTE(TK0001 @ Mar 23 2006, 06:35 AM) [snapback]1116147[/snapback]

It was 1917. Photographic hoaxes had to've been largely unheard of back then.



You reckon??

Looky here

Giant Vege Hoax


Big Fruit

Was a real big thing actually. Many people were doing it, just without computers thumbsup.gif

Should see some early 'hubcap' flying saucers. Amazing people believed this stuff really. Amazing they still do.
Sweetsalem82103
QUOTE(Alisa @ Mar 23 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]1117927[/snapback]

In response to comments, I agree that the pink and blue fairy does look very cartoony. I think he's dang cute. Many of the fairies that live around here or that I photograph seem to have this look. If I was going to fake a fairy, I would have been more apt to do the Cottingley fairy type or this: user posted image

But I was not even thinking about fairies at the time I was originally photographing them. I was trying to capture orbs and spirits. In fact, one photo had a fairy sitting under a tree that was very crisp and clear. I was so sure there were no fairies that I wrote this off as an interesting optical illusion, but not part of my spirit collecting interest. I didn't give the photo a second thought and deleted it. I nearly cried when I found this first Strawberry Shortcake fairy (good description, Sweetsalem) in my photo and then remembered deleting the fairy sitting under the tree a few days before. crying.gif

But I have to dispute the idea that Shakespeare was the first person to mention fairies. To state this as a fact would mean that the person stating it had read every single piece of literature written before Shakespears Midsummer Night's Dream. Otherwise, how do you know? I actually find that the fact there is so much literature and tales referring to fairies to be validating of them. Some people see them without the aid of a camera. There are plenty of stories of people seeing all kinds of folktale things. Hundreds of what I consider amazing, believable experiences from ordinary people are here:

http://paranormal.about.com/library/bltales.htm

Unless every single one of these people are lying, then there is a lot of amazing stuff going on out in the world. wink2.gif


I didn't say he was the first one to mention them, I said he helped to fuel the "Little" faery theory. I know he wasn't the first one to mention them. They've been in Celtic literature for centuries, but they were the human sized faeries, not the tiny ones. Did you not read the point I made in say that I DO believe in them, but not the popular image of the little people with wings. If you want a GOOD read on faeries, not the stereotypical ones, than read the books I mentioned.
psyche101
Wow. blink.gif

I really do not think these are photgraphs of fairies. Very interesting pics, not fairies though. I would suspect a optical phenomena similar to the "Rods" discovered recently by Jose Escamilla. Proven fake, yet amazingly people still believe what he is saying and refusing the proof as to what these creatures really are.

Alisa does not seem to want monetry gain from these pictures. Not to say that is the only reason for a hoax though. I get the impression that Alisa is no prankster, but in forum, one just cannot know can they.

Prove they dont exist. What a copout.

Easy way to explain the existance of something that does not exist. Best phrase I have heard scince the phrase 'quantum physics' was invented.
Prove they do exist I say, people who come forward making these 'claims' should know exactly where to look, and how to capture the subject. Should be easy as pie as they have seen the anomolies environment, and know where it is, picture of it even. So - go get definitive proof, not some blurry possible 'thing' Return with good equipment. How could someone who seriously doubts the existance of such a thing have a hope of finding such a thing? The onis is on the one making the claim, not the one resisting an improbable and unlikely event.

Very nice pictures with some unintended lighting and photographic effects. The rest I would say is up to the imagination, like elephants in the clouds.
Swamp Gas
You need to be blind to see fairies.
Lightknight
I'm sorry but the only thing I would ever consider close to a fairy is an Angel. I mean, from the look of your photographs they all look stretched from the truth. Like one I saw on your web page about fairy lights. The one looked like a carlight when enlarged. I don't believe mythical fairies exist and it makes no sense how they could or how they came to be.
novaceleste
QUOTE(Lightknight @ Mar 26 2006, 07:07 PM) [snapback]1121936[/snapback]

I'm sorry but the only thing I would ever consider close to a fairy is an Angel. I mean, from the look of your photographs they all look stretched from the truth. Like one I saw on your web page about fairy lights. The one looked like a carlight when enlarged. I don't believe mythical fairies exist and it makes no sense how they could or how they came to be.

I have to argue with you about fairies. I can't say that I don't believe in something until it is proven false. There are new things being discovered everyday. I think it is very arrogant to say that something doesn't exist on the basis of human intelligence. It me we are infants when it comes to understanding nature and the universe. More people need to open their minds. angry.gif
Steps
at first i didnt see the faries....but when i lit up the pipe and gave it bout 10 mins...i saw them clearly!! lol
novaceleste
QUOTE(Steps @ Mar 26 2006, 10:11 PM) [snapback]1122183[/snapback]

at first i didnt see the faries....but when i lit up the pipe and gave it bout 10 mins...i saw them clearly!! lol

lol laugh.gif Very funny. Stay away from the pipe!! blink.gif
psyche101
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Mar 27 2006, 02:16 PM) [snapback]1122192[/snapback]

lol laugh.gif Very funny. Stay away from the pipe!! blink.gif



How the heck is he gonna see fairies then????? Huh blink.gif

It is not arrogant to dismiss something that is imagination. Geeez, don't you ever daydream, wish ??? People did this way back when:- in their minds, and for those who could access them - books or attend plays (more ficticious stories). Now for some strange reason, people all over the place are picking up these STORIES and claiming they are reality. Followed by the most unintelligent comment ever uttered - Open Your Mind, followed a close second by, prove it doesn't exist. Using your intelligence means not believing every c*** and bull story that you hear. Sure we have a lot to learn. Not as much as you think, we have been poking arouind quite seriously for a couple thousand years, we have picked up a fair bit in that time.
There is actually physical ramifications that affect he possibility of a creature surviving in the conditions as presented on earth. Not just 'anything' could be out there.
I am amazed how people unknowingly rubish themselves, and contradict thier own arguments with these stupid hippy lines.
The human race has gathered quite a bit of knowledge if you can be bothered to read before going off the handle and saying things that cannot exist, in fact do, and follow up with ridiculous eyewitness acccounts, which are clearly falsifications, or stupid "is not" arguments.
Use your heads people, you are better than this. Lets get together and actually have a go at solving a real Unexplained Mystery. Fairies - fair go.

If you stop to think, remember to start again thumbsup.gif
If I'm drunk I'm not scared
weren't there fairy fossils found in some Asian country. Thai Land or Cambodia I think, there were actual pics of a tree where there were these petrified little fairy looking things. I saw it in the news once but haven't been able to find it online............ from lack of looking, if anyone else has heard of these please let me know
Mostar
No no no you all stupid idiots! you need to buy my "Fairy seeing glassses" that only i make using special pixy dust to make them work, all you need to do is send me $200 america dollars in cash, 100% guarantee* that you will see !

send to 123 stupid st imagination grove, Australia.



* if you are stupid enouf that you send a money order to this adress you are stupid enouf to belive in fairys and hippies. happy.gif
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