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Lightning88
i dont see anything special in those pics. no.gif
Aanica
QUOTE (Alisa @ Mar 21 2006, 04:21 PM) *
I posted at the end of the Fairy Pictures thread, but thought I'd start a new topic for any comments on my photos.

I have become an avid spirit photographer, and while poring over some photos I took of trees at night, I found what I realized are fairies. I had no intention of photographing fairies, nor had I considered their existence as real before they showed up in my photos, then I decided, why not? Everything else strange under the sun (well, moon) is showing up in my photos. There are more of my photos here.

Some people that have seen these photos have had a hard time "seeing" the fairies or found them too blury. However, the fairies seem to only turn out in my photos when I am a certain distance away from them, which makes them blurry when I enlarge the photo. Also, I did not see them with my eyes so they are obviously not 100% physical.

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I was in complete amazement for days after finding the first fairy images. That first night as I fell asleep, I felt as if the fairies were explaining to me about their culture though I cannot consciously recall any of it, but it happened over several nights. It felt as if I were going through huge volumes of books. One thing that I can remember moments before my alarm clock went off in the morning, was hearing this tiny voice that sounded like the Chipmunks (Alvin, etc.) saying, "Aww nuts, you're running away..."

I remembered the Cottingley fairies and decided to do a thorough internet search on them. When I saw their photos again I was disappointed as the fairies looked like cutouts. However, after reading many versions of the story, I found that some versions say that the girls held out for a long time that the fairies were real, and only one in the end finally agreed that 4 of the 5 photos were not real. However, this is contradicted all over the place, too. What interested me the most was reading that the man who first got his hands on the photos and negatives had them "cleaned up" as thoroughly as possible so the images would be crisp. In doing so, he had made them look fake. The fifth photo was not cleaned up and it is amazing to me because the fairies look transparent (and interdimensional) as are my fairies. Here is a copy of the fifth photo that I clarified by tinting the flesh.

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I have just returned from an amazing journey through your gallerys! I am so impessed with your beautiful photos! grin2.gif
AllP0werToSlaves
Trick of light, I say!
HowdyDoo
QUOTE (Clovis @ May 26 2008, 07:34 PM) *
Faeries are nothing more than spirits. There will never be fossils or anything of the sort for they live in the spirit realm. Spirits have different cultures some appear as what we consider faerie types, there is more than one, some appear as what we consider ghosts, human spirits pass on and do not remain here for long the rest are masqueraders, some appear as ascended masters when others channel them, and some appear as demons. This is my theory anyways nothing based in science.


I in no way wish to impugn the honesty of the OP--I believe she believes in what she's seeing.

Unfortunately, I have only seen evidence of matrixing and possible photoshop (yes, i said that nasty word, and this excludes those that have been added for fun). Keep trying, though...I've got an open mind; so open, in fact, that it often falls out of my head. happy.gif

If they do exist, I think I'd have to agree with Clovis--they are probably more a spirit being than a physical one.
LIGhostChick
QUOTE (HowdyDoo @ May 28 2008, 02:47 AM) *
I in no way wish to impugn the honesty of the OP--I believe she believes in what she's seeing.

Unfortunately, I have only seen evidence of matrixing and possible photoshop (yes, i said that nasty word, and this excludes those that have been added for fun). Keep trying, though...I've got and open mind; so open, in fact, that it often falls out of my head. happy.gif

If they do exist, I think I'd have to agree with Clovis--they are probably more a spirit being than a physical one.


I have to agree as well. Those photos are just matrixing, the eyes see what they wanna see.
Moonie2012
QUOTE (starchy @ May 26 2008, 02:07 PM) *
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Nice picture of a blurry rotting log? you have there.
Lightning88
QUOTE (Moonie2012 @ May 28 2008, 02:34 PM) *
Nice picture of a blurry rotting log? you have there.

lmao clap.gif
psyche101
QUOTE (Jason KB @ May 28 2008, 01:14 PM) *
Alisa, I think it's very sweet what you're doing with your photos. You seem like a wonderful person. I DO, in fact, see what you're seeing. But I really just think the shapes of fairies you're seeing are just odd shapes created in certain areas of the leaves and, what? The fence, maybe, that's behind them there?

I don't expect this to change your mind. I just wanted to offer my opinion on one of your threads. Bless you, sweetheart.



Alisa does not pop into crypto very often, she is more involved with the metaphysical side of things. You have indeed picked the person that in my personal opinion has expended more research, and is better versed on the subject than most, if not all members. I would recomend a visit to her site if you are into this sort of thing. A very nice and helpful person to boot. thumbsup.gif The one member who can continually stump me and offer alternatives even a rotten old skeptic like myself must consider. Although I believe the origins are traceable to books, Alisa can offer the most thought provoking instances that make one reconsider their own stances. Quite a lady. I would love to catch up with her to ask her opinion on string theory. She is well versed in many subjects.

And you wont change her mind wink2.gif LOL.
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (ufo guy @ May 26 2008, 02:23 PM) *
i dont know how you guys dont see them, great pics

Of what? I oh so want to believe in Little People, but fail to see them in the photos provided. Perhaps one can never see the Little People in a photo or video?
AllP0werToSlaves
^Exactly; these are just pictures of someones backyard.
Aanica
QUOTE (Alisa @ Mar 22 2006, 05:55 PM) *
Neo, I want to just make one suggestion for trying to see the photos. Just pick one feature, like the face of the middle fairy in the outlined photo. Then look up in the non-outlined photo and find that face. And once you find that face, then see if you can make out the tiny dots for eyes. Then can you see the neck? And so on.

In the end, it will always be up to the individual to believe because I cannot prove that it is a fairy. Nor can it be proven it is not.

I further believe that our reality is based on our belief. If I think the world is a magical place with cool things like fairies and ghosts that we can find if we look hard enough, then for me, my world is magical. If I think the fairies are just optical illusion, then there goes the magic for me and I will stop looking and thereby be assured that I will never find them.

I am a much, much happier person these days since I began seeking out the mystical than the days I sat back skeptically waiting for someone to prove things to me beyond a shadow of my doubt. For me, I know I have captured fairies. I just feel compelled to inspire anyone else I can reach to open their minds and get excited. Anyone can capture these fairies, orbs, and ghost in photos. Just grab your camera with flash, go out at dusk, dawn, or night, express some belief, even ask out loud for anyone wanting their picture taken to please show up, and then snap.

In fact, if someone will do this with an open heart and send me a few of your photos, I will comb them for anomalies, and I am sure they will be there.
You have a kind nature it is obvious, the closed minds of some need never be opened for a reason we dont need to know, let them remain prisioners of themselves to afraid to admit to something that might draw ridicule if they choose to stand out amoung the masses, I see all the faeries in the photos and in your gallery they are as I stated before beautiful... thumbsup.gif
Darksome
QUOTE (Jim The Lycan @ Mar 24 2006, 04:06 AM) *
I belive what your photo's show, but I recon there nymths, the spirits of the trees, water ect. So how do you catch all these photo's? ive been searching for physical evidence but havent found anything, except in the same place at the same time every year at my local scate boared park, the wind picks up at the same strentch, the same weather patturns, and the same cloud formation. explain that xD


Good heavens. What's all this in English?

Fairies??? lol. Uh huh. This site is absolutely hilarious, it really is! At least it relieves the boredom sometimes original.gif
fatrobot
i wonder if there are any centaur-fairy hybrids?
Darksome
QUOTE (sadistic jellyfish of doom @ May 22 2008, 05:43 AM) *
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Look, a dragon and a squid. I have proof.
Yeah, maybe I'm being a bit harsh. But I can't see anything in those pictures. Fairies, dragons, bigfoot, nothing.


LMAO! I can see "teh" Magical Dragon!!! I believe!!! This site is soooo damn funny.

EDIT: Thank you to ALL those who've contributed photos of leav..fairies and those who have posted their thoughts debunking them. This thread has given me such a laugh and made me giggle like I've not for ages. Your beliefs in fairies have at least made me cheerful this evening grin2.gif

I can't understand people's need to invent such ridiculous things when there already IS such incredible and awe inspiring animals/creatures in the REAL world to marvel at...now THAT is a mystery to me.
Ignus Fatus
QUOTE (Darksome @ Jun 10 2008, 01:30 PM) *
LMAO! I can see "teh" Magical Dragon!!! I believe!!! This site is soooo damn funny.

EDIT: Thank you to ALL those who've contributed photos of leav..fairies and those who have posted their thoughts debunking them. This thread has given me such a laugh and made me giggle like I've not for ages. Your beliefs in fairies have at least made me cheerful this evening grin2.gif

I used to think like some on this forum ... luckily my mind got to expand man. A closed mind will never get you anywhere.

You would be floored with laughter to know how many serious scientists believe in fairies or by their international name earthlights. But I also can see how anyone who has not seen them could find insanity in those who do.

Bioplasmic life forms are real wacko.gif ... and sometimes the things insane are the truth.
Darksome
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Jun 11 2008, 03:45 AM) *
I used to think like some on this forum ... luckily my mind got to expand man. A closed mind will never get you anywhere.

You would be floored with laughter to know how many serious scientists believe in fairies or by their international name earthlights. But I also can see how anyone who has not seen them could find insanity in those who do.

Bioplasmic life forms are real wacko.gif ... and sometimes the things insane are the truth.


Why am I close minded? Because I don't see shapes in foliage and attribute them to actual real creatures? Bioplasmic life forms? Like THESE ??? Seriously, do you people honestly believe in all this nonsense?
Agent. Mulder
QUOTE (Darksome @ Jun 10 2008, 07:24 PM) *
Why am I close minded? Because I don't see shapes in foliage and attribute them to actual real creatures? Bioplasmic life forms? Like THESE ??? Seriously, do you people honestly believe in all this nonsense?


yeah, alota these people do.
is it All nonsense though? no.
but the fairies part?...yeah, id say it is.
Aanica
QUOTE (Alisa @ Mar 21 2006, 04:21 PM) *
I posted at the end of the Fairy Pictures thread, but thought I'd start a new topic for any comments on my photos.

I have become an avid spirit photographer, and while poring over some photos I took of trees at night, I found what I realized are fairies. I had no intention of photographing fairies, nor had I considered their existence as real before they showed up in my photos, then I decided, why not? Everything else strange under the sun (well, moon) is showing up in my photos. There are more of my photos here.

Some people that have seen these photos have had a hard time "seeing" the fairies or found them too blury. However, the fairies seem to only turn out in my photos when I am a certain distance away from them, which makes them blurry when I enlarge the photo. Also, I did not see them with my eyes so they are obviously not 100% physical.

linked-image



I was in complete amazement for days after finding the first fairy images. That first night as I fell asleep, I felt as if the fairies were explaining to me about their culture though I cannot consciously recall any of it, but it happened over several nights. It felt as if I were going through huge volumes of books. One thing that I can remember moments before my alarm clock went off in the morning, was hearing this tiny voice that sounded like the Chipmunks (Alvin, etc.) saying, "Aww nuts, you're running away..."

I remembered the Cottingley fairies and decided to do a thorough internet search on them. When I saw their photos again I was disappointed as the fairies looked like cutouts. However, after reading many versions of the story, I found that some versions say that the girls held out for a long time that the fairies were real, and only one in the end finally agreed that 4 of the 5 photos were not real. However, this is contradicted all over the place, too. What interested me the most was reading that the man who first got his hands on the photos and negatives had them "cleaned up" as thoroughly as possible so the images would be crisp. In doing so, he had made them look fake. The fifth photo was not cleaned up and it is amazing to me because the fairies look transparent (and interdimensional) as are my fairies. Here is a copy of the fifth photo that I clarified by tinting the flesh.

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I am still facinated with your photos I count 5 in the first one at least, amazing! yes.gif
fatrobot
fairies are boring
Ignus Fatus
QUOTE (Darksome @ Jun 10 2008, 02:24 PM) *
Why am I close minded? Because I don't see shapes in foliage and attribute them to actual real creatures? Bioplasmic life forms? Like THESE ??? Seriously, do you people honestly believe in all this nonsense?

Yes I seriously believe in all this "nonsense". Again if I had never gotten to see for myself I would be skeptical myself. Photos of "orbs" are one thing but anecdotal evidence from every culture throughout history has tales of earthlights. Closed minded to me is the inability to see rational thought in things or theories that the person has not seen him or herself. Just because it is not in your face or cannot be scientifically measured (at this point) does not mean it does not exist.

I will tell you an irrational thought. I went on a camping trip which was rained out and sit in my car waiting for the rain to let up. A remote controlled device controlled a glowing orb that moved at the same speed and the same height off of the ground as it followed the road in front of us. As it moved directly in front of us whoever it was controlling this unidentified flying glowing object had the device whip straight up into a tree and parked it on a branch. They then had the object pulse bright then turn off several times for fifteen minutes before they flew the object over top of the creek thirty forty yards before it zipped up the mountain a ways and followed an old logging road that I did not even know was there. I do not know where they aquired this technology which defied the laws of physics ... wish I had one.

I have logically attacked this particular experience in every sort of way possible. The fact is that it was not logical.
Looking into this matter I have ran up on other unexplainable experiences that I have nothing but theories to explain what happened. When you do research and find others around the world with the same experiences you start to look at it differently.

Fact is we are looking to space "the final frontier" to expand our mind, yet we do not have a clue to all the wonders that we have yet to explain on our own planet.
Ignus Fatus
QUOTE (Agent. Mulder @ Jun 10 2008, 02:42 PM) *
yeah, alota these people do.
is it All nonsense though? no.
but the fairies part?...yeah, id say it is.

I will agree on these photos.
Even if I do not know what earthlights look like close up ... I have a hard time believing they resemble tinker bell.
Yet ... I do not know.
Lightning88
QUOTE (fatrobot @ Jun 11 2008, 05:54 AM) *
fairies are boring


lmao, agreed
Manda Malice
I think Alisa photos are great! She isn't hurting anyone with them, all she is doing is asking people to use their imaginations. I've also always been a big fan of the Cottingley Fairies. I was very sad to heard that the women admitted to faking them as girls. I liked not knowing. Shorty after the "Death Bed Confession" of the Cottingley Fairies I did a photo set kinda 'inspired' by the Cottingley Fairies.

(Here is the link to the photos if anyone would like to see them: Fairy Fotos *NOTE: These photos are fake! tongue.gif )

Alisa photos are fun! And I greatly enjoy them.
psyche101
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Jun 12 2008, 04:22 AM) *
Yes I seriously believe in all this "nonsense".


Really really? All of it? Nessie, Chupucubra, Vampires - the whole lot?

QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Jun 12 2008, 04:22 AM) *
Just because it is not in your face or cannot be scientifically measured (at this point) does not mean it does not exist.


Scientific paramateres can indeed determine wether a thing can exist or not, if an alleged "something" breaks all the rules of nature and physics, it cannot exist outside imagination.
Illyria
I smell photoshop o_O
Ignus Fatus
QUOTE (psyche101 @ Jun 11 2008, 09:00 PM) *
Really really? All of it? Nessie, Chupucubra, Vampires - the whole lot?



Scientific paramateres can indeed determine wether a thing can exist or not, if an alleged "something" breaks all the rules of nature and physics, it cannot exist outside imagination.

No, just earthlights ... mainly because the fact was in my face.

No science cannot reason with earthlights at this time. Anecdotal evidence is not science in the minds of a few. Visit
earthlights to get some answers from a panel of scientists studying this phenomena.
Rhianwen
Just started tonight, and saw this, and yes I can see the fairies, and yes I believe in nessie,chupracubra, vampires etc, why not no-one has disproved nor proved that they exsist and until someone does I will keep an open mind thank you
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (Rhianwen @ Jun 12 2008, 05:10 PM) *
Just started tonight, and saw this, and yes I can see the fairies, and yes I believe in nessie,chupracubra, vampires etc, why not no-one has disproved nor proved that they exsist and until someone does I will keep an open mind thank you

How does one disprove something exists? Santa Claus exists, prove me wrong.

BTW, welcome to U-M.
psyche101
QUOTE (Rhianwen @ Jun 13 2008, 08:10 AM) *
Just started tonight, and saw this, and yes I can see the fairies, and yes I believe in nessie,chupracubra, vampires etc, why not no-one has disproved nor proved that they exsist and until someone does I will keep an open mind thank you


Welcome to UM Rhianwen.

Be careful, if your mind is too open your brain will fall out!! LOL.

Nessie is proven not to exist in any physical sense. Vampires, you are kidding aren't you? Things with a finite history can indeed be proven not to exist by tracing original authors. Just check the sources. And nature and physics do not "bend" you comply, or you cannot exist! Sometimes, one must accept that things are what they are.

If you are interrested in Chupacubra, try this thread (Click Me), it is an excellent surmation, and I firmly believe the explaination that uncovers this beastie. A UM member too. Makes one all prideful to be a member doesn't it!
You will find many explainations for these wonderful hidden stories here. Rather enlightening.

QUOTE
In the West, criminal cases usually place the burden of proof on the prosecutor (expressed in the Latin brocard ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non que negat, "the burden of proof rests on who asserts, not on who denies"). This principle is known as the presumption of innocence, but is not upheld in all legal systems or jurisdictions. Where it is upheld, the accused will be found not guilty if this burden of proof is not sufficiently shown by the prosecution.


Wikipedia. Burden of Proof.

If you make the allegation such storybook creatures exist, the right thing to do is prove it.

Carl Sagan was a Scentist with an Open Mind, you may enjoy some of his quotes.

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.

Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense.

The brain is like a muscle. When it is in use we feel very good. Understanding is joyous.


3 of my Favourites. Hope you like them!
psyche101
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Jun 13 2008, 05:56 AM) *
No, just earthlights ... mainly because the fact was in my face.

No science cannot reason with earthlights at this time. Anecdotal evidence is not science in the minds of a few. Visit
earthlights to get some answers from a panel of scientists studying this phenomena.


But these earthlights are neither Faries, nor bioplasmic. Most likely photonic or an electrical charge. No scientist that I have heard of, or on the link you provided states Faries as a possibility for this phenomena.
Where the site says

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Why have so few scientific studies been done on the Earthlight phenomenon? Probably because Earthlights have been so closely associated with mythological, superstitious, and supernatural lore that many scientists have mistakenly denied the phenomenon exists rather than appreciate the attempts of uneducated populations to describe and document the indescribable.

IEA believes there is a basis of truth in most legends, and that by carefully investigating the gestalt behind the legend, rather than interpretations or taking them at face value, valid and valuable information can be uncovered that may lead to new insights. We take legend seriously as the verbal record of ancient echoes that may have future reverberations.


That does not mean they believe in faries, it means they take the stories over thae ages seriously as it sounds as though the phenomena may well have been observeed for centuries, yet only laymen have taken the time to document or describe it. There may be valuable observations if the descriptions can be strained and put into real terms. Science has found more important things to do (and rightly so, pretty busy for the last couple centuries) than chase every superstition and story. I feel that view is further verified by this paragraph.

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There may be some basis in reality for association of the Earthlights with the paranormal. People who have had close encounters with the lights often report unusual sensations, which they have interpreted as mystical or even religious experiences. This may be due to an explainable phenomenon-- human encounter with strong time-varying magnetic fields. Preliminary measurements indicate strong magnetic activity in the vicinity of Earthlights. Canadian neurophysiologist, Michael Persinger, has demonstrated in the laboratory that he can create “religious,” or subjectively “paranormal” experiences in volunteers wearing a helmet that induces such magnetic fields in their brains.


Once again suggesting an electrical link.

Thank you for the link, I wlll look forward to the finished product. The Link to hessdalen.org is worth visiting as well, it is listed on that page.
Sheesh, I know one member over in the UFO section that would be peeveed you are calling these lights fairies, he seems convinced it is extraterrestrial phenomena!

Also from the site

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What are Earthlights?
Definition
Eyewitness descriptions
History Reported since Biblical times, Native American lore
Earthlights are not flying saucers though sometimes confused with other aerial phenomenon

Why it is important to investigate Earthlights
1. New way to produce light
2. New way to produce energy
3. New chapter in book of science
4. Understanding geophysics
5. A teaching tool to inspire students to learn science


Not much on Faries there.....

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Popular explanations:

Vehicle headlights
Mirages
Aircraft
Planets and stars
Fires
Yard lights
Swamp gas
Virtual images induces in human brains

Popular theories:
Tectonic strain theory
Volcanic activity
Geologic faults
Solar activity


With depleting energy sources, I guess it makes sense to investigate all avenues. It seems very likely "earthlights" are produced by a displacement in the values of resistance between two surfaces. A good link, have you read it? The Hessdalen phenomena has had me intruged for some time, to me the descriptions seem very similar to the Foo Fighter descriptions from WWII (which I see made the theories page). An interesting phenomena, yet no verified farie no matter how far one stretches the theory. My wife calls Dragonflies Faries, is that what you were refering to? a personal reference rather than a statement that earthlights are faries?
Humans anecdotes are indeed falible. We are all prone to human error. Physics is not. In the end, empirical and physical evidence is the only real proof.
lil gremlin
QUOTE (psyche101 @ Jun 13 2008, 01:50 AM) *
But these earthlights are neither Faries, nor bioplasmic. Most likely photonic or an electrical charge. No scientist that I have heard of, or on the link you provided states Faries as a possibility for this phenomena.
Where the site says



That does not mean they believe in faries, it means they take the stories over thae ages seriously as it sounds as though the phenomena may well have been observeed for centuries, yet only laymen have taken the time to document or describe it. There may be valuable observations if the descriptions can be strained and put into real terms. Science has found more important things to do (and rightly so, pretty busy for the last couple centuries) than chase every superstition and story. I feel that view is further verified by this paragraph.



Once again suggesting an electrical link.

Thank you for the link, I wlll look forward to the finished product. The Link to hessdalen.org is worth visiting as well, it is listed on that page.
Sheesh, I know one member over in the UFO section that would be peeveed you are calling these lights fairies, he seems convinced it is extraterrestrial phenomena!

Also from the site



Not much on Faries there.....



With depleting energy sources, I guess it makes sense to investigate all avenues. It seems very likely "earthlights" are produced by a displacement in the values of resistance between two surfaces. A good link, have you read it? The Hessdalen phenomena has had me intruged for some time, to me the descriptions seem very similar to the Foo Fighter descriptions from WWII (which I see made the theories page). An interesting phenomena, yet no verified farie no matter how far one stretches the theory. My wife calls Dragonflies Faries, is that what you were refering to? a personal reference rather than a statement that earthlights are faries?
Humans anecdotes are indeed falible. We are all prone to human error. Physics is not. In the end, empirical and physical evidence is the only real proof.

Great post thumbsup.gif
psyche101
^ Thank you original.gif
Ignus Fatus
QUOTE (psyche101 @ Jun 12 2008, 08:50 PM) *
But these earthlights are neither Faries, nor bioplasmic. Most likely photonic or an electrical charge. No scientist that I have heard of, or on the link you provided states Faries as a possibility for this phenomena.
Where the site says



That does not mean they believe in faries, it means they take the stories over thae ages seriously as it sounds as though the phenomena may well have been observeed for centuries, yet only laymen have taken the time to document or describe it. There may be valuable observations if the descriptions can be strained and put into real terms. Science has found more important things to do (and rightly so, pretty busy for the last couple centuries) than chase every superstition and story. I feel that view is further verified by this paragraph.



Once again suggesting an electrical link.

Thank you for the link, I wlll look forward to the finished product. The Link to hessdalen.org is worth visiting as well, it is listed on that page.
Sheesh, I know one member over in the UFO section that would be peeveed you are calling these lights fairies, he seems convinced it is extraterrestrial phenomena!

Also from the site



Not much on Faries there.....



With depleting energy sources, I guess it makes sense to investigate all avenues. It seems very likely "earthlights" are produced by a displacement in the values of resistance between two surfaces. A good link, have you read it? The Hessdalen phenomena has had me intruged for some time, to me the descriptions seem very similar to the Foo Fighter descriptions from WWII (which I see made the theories page). An interesting phenomena, yet no verified farie no matter how far one stretches the theory. My wife calls Dragonflies Faries, is that what you were refering to? a personal reference rather than a statement that earthlights are faries?
Humans anecdotes are indeed falible. We are all prone to human error. Physics is not. In the end, empirical and physical evidence is the only real proof.

Not much on Fairies??? Earthlights have many synonyms. Willow wisps, corpse lanterns, foxfire just to name a few. Fairies are just another name from a certain place where they have been witnessed. They have been seen throughout history.

I know you would have to have seen it to understand it. I have on two occasions seen an earthlight. It followed a man made road. Zipped up a tree and pulsed on and off for fifteen minutes. Then zipped following the creek before zipping again and followd an old logging road that we did not know was there. I have no proof that they are plasmic in form but I can tell you that it would have to have had some intellect to know it's way around.

Marsha Adams who is the head of the IEA has written me and agrees that anecdotal records point in the direction of possible intelligence. I agree on one point ... emperical and physical evidence is the only real proof, therefore I have no real proof, just what I have seen, my bud has seen and I also have eight others from the same small area that have witnessed earthlights. For me though seeing is believing.
Ignus Fatus
Sorry but one last note. Dr. Persinger has done wonderful research on this phenomena but a partner of his Paul Deveraux has an alternating theory about earthlights. Look him up. Again I have argued with Persinger due to the fact that these perceptual hallucinations should not span two people. How can I and my friend both have the same hallucination seeing the same exact thing. Does not make any sense.

I personally follow Deveraux's theories on earthlights.
psyche101
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Jun 14 2008, 05:05 AM) *
Not much on Fairies??? Earthlights have many synonyms. Willow wisps, corpse lanterns, foxfire just to name a few. Fairies are just another name from a certain place where they have been witnessed. They have been seen throughout history.

I know you would have to have seen it to understand it. I have on two occasions seen an earthlight. It followed a man made road. Zipped up a tree and pulsed on and off for fifteen minutes. Then zipped following the creek before zipping again and followd an old logging road that we did not know was there. I have no proof that they are plasmic in form but I can tell you that it would have to have had some intellect to know it's way around.

Marsha Adams who is the head of the IEA has written me and agrees that anecdotal records point in the direction of possible intelligence. I agree on one point ... emperical and physical evidence is the only real proof, therefore I have no real proof, just what I have seen, my bud has seen and I also have eight others from the same small area that have witnessed earthlights. For me though seeing is believing.


On that page there is little to support the idea that Earthlights are faries, in fact, they quite distance themselves from the idea. The page that lists the many names placed on the phenomena as a reference to the possible time frame the lights have been observed.
Your surmation of itelligence is an interesting theory, some think these things are ET in origin, and no doubt, if we were to recieve contact from another part of the galaxy, it would be a comms or robotic contact considering the distances. All good theories, but also could be electrical in nature. Electricity does some wierd and wonderful things. I always favoured the electrical theories, being involved heavily with electricity most of my life, it seems possible knowing electron flow and how it works.
To be somewhat clearer, are you thinking of some glowing intelligent unknown tiny creature, or a cute little lady with a short dress and wings?
I am sure that witnessing such phenomena would be a profound experience. Would you have been able to follow it on foot?
Ignus Fatus
QUOTE (psyche101 @ Jun 16 2008, 03:00 AM) *
On that page there is little to support the idea that Earthlights are faries, in fact, they quite distance themselves from the idea. The page that lists the many names placed on the phenomena as a reference to the possible time frame the lights have been observed.
Your surmation of itelligence is an interesting theory, some think these things are ET in origin, and no doubt, if we were to recieve contact from another part of the galaxy, it would be a comms or robotic contact considering the distances. All good theories, but also could be electrical in nature. Electricity does some wierd and wonderful things. I always favoured the electrical theories, being involved heavily with electricity most of my life, it seems possible knowing electron flow and how it works.
To be somewhat clearer, are you thinking of some glowing intelligent unknown tiny creature, or a cute little lady with a short dress and wings?
I am sure that witnessing such phenomena would be a profound experience. Would you have been able to follow it on foot?

I by no means believe that earthlights are cute little ladies with short dresses. tongue.gif Yes I would have been able to follow it on foot. During my second sighting I was able and did follow it on foot, it was in the dog days of summer though and I was not able to see anything past the treeline.

Following the willow wisp has some superstitious tales to it. Google willow of the wisp "another synonym for earthlights" Folklore has it that miners used to follow the willowwisp as it would lead them to precious metals. I found this out after already knowing of the precious metals in the same area as my experience. Correlations are not causations ... but after so many putting of two and two together, I see some truth to it.

The people of the IEA dismiss the "little ladies in dresses with wings" I agree. I see it as human experiences in Ireland with a bit of human slant to it. Did they see little ladies with wings? I do not believe so ... I think they had similar expereinces to mine, with a touch of imagination.
psyche101
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Jun 17 2008, 05:46 AM) *
I by no means believe that earthlights are cute little ladies with short dresses. tongue.gif Yes I would have been able to follow it on foot. During my second sighting I was able and did follow it on foot, it was in the dog days of summer though and I was not able to see anything past the treeline.

Following the willow wisp has some superstitious tales to it. Google willow of the wisp "another synonym for earthlights" Folklore has it that miners used to follow the willowwisp as it would lead them to precious metals. I found this out after already knowing of the precious metals in the same area as my experience. Correlations are not causations ... but after so many putting of two and two together, I see some truth to it.

The people of the IEA dismiss the "little ladies in dresses with wings" I agree. I see it as human experiences in Ireland with a bit of human slant to it. Did they see little ladies with wings? I do not believe so ... I think they had similar expereinces to mine, with a touch of imagination.




Ahhh I am pleased to hear that, confusions was mine, I thought you were sayng Earthlights were Tinkerbell, or the Cottingly Faries, which we know are fake, but some persist in believing after the confession.......

That is interesting, if they can be followed, perhaps some sort of remote devices is needed to follow the phenomena with a mounted camera. It would be interesting to know if the phenomena gathers momentum to become somethng large like lightning or dissapates (loose theory popped into head :- difference of potential between surfaces of ground/atmosphere so small it might create small charges that "leak" into the atmosphere similar to how one might trickle charge a battery to build up and eventually be released via lightning? - sort of like the lightnng you get in a Volcano from static build-up?)

What you say about precious metals also make me think of electrical connections. Gold, silver and the like are excellent conductors. Veins underground could offer strange pathways for a charge to follow, as well as what trace elements might be absorbed by local vegitation causing erratic upward motion. Planes with the masses of electromagnetic interferance, and connection to the earth via radio waves could also be a connection to the WWII Foo Fighters, which I have always found interesting.
Hrmmmzzz..... interesting, I might have a closer look at the electrical side of this phenomena, LOL, anyone for an electrical sentient being? Star Trek had them!
Nice angle to the fariy thread! I shall quite look forward to discussing this with you further. An interesting phenomena to say the least.
homatek
At this point I am just going to have to say to each their own.
I don't have photoshop and so I can say that my pics were not
changed in any way.


I know what I think I see.

A lot of people believe in a god they have never seen and here I have what appears
to be faerie in a picture.

Who knows??


allie_shy
You want to see faeries, so you see faeries, it's the simple, just all the colors and textures and contrast of the leaves trees and everything else coming together to make it seem as if you're actually seeing something, just like someone could say they are aliens , gnomes, or goblins, you just like fairies and have such a passion for them that your mind is making them appear to you, I'm sure to you they really are there and you'd swear or anything that they are real, but seriously people have given great debates on why and how these photos do not hold up and most would start to begin to see the logic and reality in it all, but you're just not seeing which makes me begin to wonder if it's gone from an over active imagination to actual delusions and visual hallucination no offense but your remind of some of the people i work with at the hospital I work at and not so sure that's a good thing.
I don't know, I hope this little fantasy fills whatever deep open void you have and it doesn't go any further than seeing things in pictures.
Anyway with all that said, I don't know if anyone else with agree but it's kind of getting a tab bit tedious seeing this thread whenever I click into the thread to see something new and fresh and see this stale and post, again no offense just being honest, it's just getting old.
Maybe try something new.
piperjay
Well said allie_shy thumbsup.gif . My thoughts exactly. It's exactly like seeing things in clouds. I swear I saw a cloud once that looked EXACTLY like a pirate ship. I mean a pirate ship could've been right behind it in disguise. I almost expected the clouds to blow away and reveal a pirate ship. Anyhoo, I digress...
Tiggs
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A quick reminder to all posters within this thread to please avoid making Ad hominem posts. Please discuss the topic in hand, rather than the person discussing the topic.

Whilst arguing Pareidolia is a valid response to a post, responses alluding to a poster's mental state is not.

Thanks in advance,

Tiggs
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Ignus Fatus
QUOTE (psyche101 @ Jun 16 2008, 08:06 PM) *
Ahhh I am pleased to hear that, confusions was mine, I thought you were sayng Earthlights were Tinkerbell, or the Cottingly Faries, which we know are fake, but some persist in believing after the confession.......

That is interesting, if they can be followed, perhaps some sort of remote devices is needed to follow the phenomena with a mounted camera. It would be interesting to know if the phenomena gathers momentum to become somethng large like lightning or dissapates (loose theory popped into head :- difference of potential between surfaces of ground/atmosphere so small it might create small charges that "leak" into the atmosphere similar to how one might trickle charge a battery to build up and eventually be released via lightning? - sort of like the lightnng you get in a Volcano from static build-up?)

What you say about precious metals also make me think of electrical connections. Gold, silver and the like are excellent conductors. Veins underground could offer strange pathways for a charge to follow, as well as what trace elements might be absorbed by local vegitation causing erratic upward motion. Planes with the masses of electromagnetic interferance, and connection to the earth via radio waves could also be a connection to the WWII Foo Fighters, which I have always found interesting.
Hrmmmzzz..... interesting, I might have a closer look at the electrical side of this phenomena, LOL, anyone for an electrical sentient being? Star Trek had them!
Nice angle to the fariy thread! I shall quite look forward to discussing this with you further. An interesting phenomena to say the least.

Thanks and I will be sure to send you any information I find this summer. I have been back to this particular area several times and I am taking notes.

No earthlights at this point, but if your interested google time slip phenomena ... this place at times sounds like rice krispies "snap crackle and pop" Last week I stood in a area that made the hair stand up on my and my friends entire body. Sometimes I hate not knowing what is going on.

Your thoughts on the electrical connections of gold and silver are very interesting. I will have to look farther into this matter and thanks for the heads up.
Kryso
Just a point, but the cottage where the original photos were took, the Cottingley fairies, is up for sale!

Link
psyche101
QUOTE (Kryso @ Jun 20 2008, 03:52 AM) *
Just a point, but the cottage where the original photos were took, the Cottingley fairies, is up for sale!

Link



Wow, unexpected, hey, thank's for the link. Be nice to own a bit of fortean history original.gif
psyche101
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Jun 20 2008, 02:01 AM) *
Thanks and I will be sure to send you any information I find this summer. I have been back to this particular area several times and I am taking notes.

No earthlights at this point, but if your interested google time slip phenomena ... this place at times sounds like rice krispies "snap crackle and pop" Last week I stood in a area that made the hair stand up on my and my friends entire body. Sometimes I hate not knowing what is going on.

Your thoughts on the electrical connections of gold and silver are very interesting. I will have to look farther into this matter and thanks for the heads up.



Is THIS the sort of phenomena you mean?

Do you think the two are connected, or a possibility that they are?

I must admit, you have turned the topic around a bit, and very much piqued my interest along the way.
Ignus Fatus
QUOTE (psyche101 @ Jun 20 2008, 01:53 AM) *
Is THIS the sort of phenomena you mean?

Do you think the two are connected, or a possibility that they are?

I must admit, you have turned the topic around a bit, and very much piqued my interest along the way.

I do not know if they are connected or not, though the time slip phenomena has occured in this same area. My father who is probably the only one who has seen more of these woods than I has taken many to the area. Before I even had an clue about the strange things that I have witnessed, my father had. He always said that this area was haunted. When I was in college he took his friend who is also a teacher where I work to this area. Randall went to look around a ridge while dad was messing with his map. Dad became concerned after Randall was gone for fifteen minutes, but he finally came back. They were in a hurry to beat the sunset so dad was upset with him. The thing was that Randall said that he was only gone at most four minutes. Randall had said over and over that "I just lost a couple of minutes ... that's all" When I showed him some literature on the timeslip he was very intriged. This is not the only supposed time distortion occurance in the area. On top of reading about some supposed time slips that occured in the Red River Gorge about five miles from my area, some locals who live in the area have also had similar experiences. I have read that the crackling sounds are connected to the timeslip phenomena. Mintie Boyd who just passed away earlier this year at 101 years told me a story that her husband once went to pump some oil and came back hours later. He said that he went straight there pumped the oil and came straight back. He almost always was back within an hour and was really freaked out about his lost time. He even called his pastor and asked him to pray for him. Mintie has also seen earthlights before in this area but dismissed it until I showed her some literature on them.
Are the two connected? It would be irrational to dismiss the possibility. I do not know if I have stated this but this area was held sacred by the Native Americans who buried their chiefs in this area. I know of three seperate burial sites within a two mile radius in this area. A year back I contacted Dr. Michael Persinger who told me to go and purchase a phone coil hookup and connect it to an audioamplifier. This device turns electromagnetic signatures into sound and can be tested by holding it up close to a computer screen. You can hear the 60 hz buzz radiating from it. I have GPS coordinated several areas where these frequencies can be detected in this area. I have noticed that a lot of these spots can be connected in a straight line when I placed them on my topographical map. This is similar to the curry grid or hartmann grid. Another screwed up thing is that my county and the county over both are always in the top five in occurance of cancer in my state. The curry grid has been theorized as a connection to cancer. Underground streams and fault lines are said to cause this ... funny thing is that this entire county is full of underground streams and has three fault lines that run through it.

Correlations are not causations but with the news that cell phones may cause cancer due to the same electromagnetic frequencies, I do not see how anyone could totally dismiss it.

Edited to ask where in the world is Oz??? Kansas maybe.
analog_warrior
So are these faries made of leaves and twiges? Or is this just their appearence?
Cleomenes
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Jun 20 2008, 02:30 PM) *
Edited to ask where in the world is Oz??? Kansas maybe.


Or Australia
cryptidlover23
QUOTE (Alisa @ Mar 22 2006, 02:02 AM) *
Thanks for all of the comments and for re-opening the topic. original.gif

Yes, the two black and white photos are the Cottingley Fairies, not mine. I find it a very believable photo, wish it was mine. wink2.gif

Here are some more fairy photos that I have captured. Perhaps these will be easier to "see". I might add that I have spent hundreds of hours looking closely at my photos and over time I have developed the ability to more easily spot these things that at first I did not see myself. It has taught me to not delete any old photos, because in the future, I might see something I didn't see before!

Original photo, then original with fairies outlined...

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linked-image


Are these easier to see? Fairies seem to be a bit like chameleons, and like many creatures, they blend into their environment for a reason.

And for anyone that wants to see something a little less sweet than fairies, I have more spirit world photos to share...




these are truely just some tigs and shadows. i believe in fairies but these photos you have been posting are truely fake. mellow.gif
Agent. Mulder
QUOTE (cryptidlover23 @ Aug 9 2008, 12:56 AM) *
these are truely just some tigs and shadows. i believe in fairies but these photos you have been posting are truely fake. mellow.gif


but why do you believe in fairies? or are you just meaning the whole 'earth lights' thing.
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