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RelicHunter
Can anyone help me if this was true or not. I read somewhere that some people survived the Titanic disaster and were living on an iceberg for a week or two before they ended up dieing. What do you guys think?

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Tillghast
I heard there was a CURSED( wait for the gasps!) mummy abaord that brought the Titanic down! Of course theres also the NO POPE thing but no one could really LIVE on an iceberg. Unless they are Frosty the Snowman! thumbsup.gif
Benjo Koolzooie
QUOTE (Alien Invader @ Sep 19 2003, 03:41 AM)
no one could really LIVE on an iceberg. Unless they are Frosty the Snowman! thumbsup.gif

Hence why they died. whistling2.gif
schadeaux
The closest I could find on this, from various sources, is that four survivors were rescued from Collapsable B, which had overturned. The four survivors had hung on to the bottom of the boat all night. Others had lost consciouness due to hypothermia and slid into the water. Two of the four rescued shortly died of exposure.

Other than that is a story I haven't been able to confirm. Apparently, Collapsable A was determined by the Carpathia rescue team to be swamped and unsalvageable, and so was cut loose to drift after survivors were pulled off. The collapsable was found a month later by the liner Oceanic with the bodies of three Titanic passengers, some jewelry and personal belongings in the bottom.
Seraphina
hmm...when a solid melts, it releases heat, that's why some animals bury themselves under snow overnight...assuming the body temperature of a person was sufficient to melt the ice around them, they might have been extremely cold, but just warm enough to survive. To be honest, a person on an ice berg would be far better off than anyone in the water, which is far colder than the air.

If they were wrapped up in a blanket, or a thick coat, then I think survival would be possible enough...though I still think it's a bit of a tall tale tongue.gif
Phantom
QUOTE (Seraphina @ Sep 20 2003, 01:32 AM)
hmm...when a solid melts, it releases heat, that's why some animals bury themselves under snow overnight...assuming the body temperature of a person was sufficient to melt the ice around them, they might have been extremely cold, but just warm enough to survive.

A human body releases heat, causing the snow to melt. I don't think the snow actually gives the heat back to the person. If so, withdrawing the heat from the snow (now water) would cause it to freeze again so that the whole circus could start from the beginning...

I think you just invented the perpetuum mobile. wink2.gif
Seraphina
hmm...I could be wrong but...no, I don't think so...For a substance to change from one state to another (assuming the atoms are moving further apart, rather than closer), it needs to undergo an increase in temperature. Like most substances, water gives off heat when turning into a liquid, just as it does when it turns into a gas (though, obviously, not to the same extent).

The source of the heat doesn't actually matter...the heat still has to go somewhere when the chemical reaction is finished. In most cases, it's just released into air...hence why people sitting on an ice berg would probably be kept juuuust warm enough to survive.
Phantom
Seraphina - I think I understand what you mean. However, I think the heat released by the ice melting would go directly to the cold surrounding air, leaving none for the people on the iceberg. I'm no scientist, but I think the heat tends to go where it's coldest, just like air flows from high pressure to low pressure...

But I fully admit, I don't know. I am just trying to use logic reasoning... original.gif

Kryso
If you are caught in a mountain with a snow blizzard, or lost in the snow, a survival trait is to dig a hole big enough to crawl into (that’s big enough so your not wedged in, but have run to move about). Provided you have enough warm clothing and so on. The point is to stop your body temperature dropping any lower, and getting out of the cold winds and blizzard. A wrong idea is that people should jump around when cold, but all this does is bring your body heat to the surface where it disperses. You should curl up and not move leaving what body temperature you have left to keep your main organs working until you’re rescued.
Oh… And if you were trapped upon an iceberg with no implements, how would you make a hole big enough to crawl into? Unlike snow, which is relatively easy to dig with hands, an iceberg is simply frozen water, it would be like scratching against a brick wall with you’re hands!

Just pop the words - Snow Hole - into Google search engine and see the way to build and survive in one!
Occam's Razor
seraphina:

it's actually that substances release heat when shifting phase to a *denser* form - ie: steam will scald you as it condenses to water on your hand. that's why it burns. you've got the idea, just backwards. wink2.gif
Seraphina
Ah...that's what I get for taking a gap year tongue.gif
Great Big Sea
Alien Invador there was a ancient mummy aboard the Titanic she was a princess or I believe she was a Queen at one time. And belonged to either the Set or the Osiris cult of the dead. If you would like more information about this mummy then just responde on this board. But no I don't think that anyone could manage to live out on a iceberg for an entire week.

Happy Holidays original.gif

P.S. There is a fantastic story that goes around the evil spirit of the queen or princess.
ansemheart
I too heard that legend, and ............... it's true. I saw a document on the Titanic, and it said that as some of the survivors and passengers on the Carpathia (rescue ship). They saw on the ice , about 2 hundred yards away, black figues moving around on a piece of ice, they COULD'VE been seals, but they never looked to find out. huh.gif
doomgirl
I've never hear that theroy, but here is a site that looks like they would know, it has a lot of information: Titanic

I would imagine that the story of survivers being found alive on an iceberg would be false. Once in the freezing water, hyperthermia would have set in fast, leaving them with little to no energy to swim or pull themselve onto an iceberg.
AnimangaBloodThorn
QUOTE (ansemheart @ Dec 22 2003, 11:26 AM)
but they never looked to find out. huh.gif

Wow, I would have really loved to rely on that ship to rescue me.... dontgetit.gif

Cya!
greattenchim
doubt it true
JMPD1
My My, aren't we the happy little post count padder.

Any chance of seeing you resurrect a thread with a little more substance to your posts?
justcallmefox
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Once in the freezing water, hyperthermia would have set in fast, leaving them with little to no energy to swim or pull themselve onto an iceberg.



quite true. the temperature of the water in the North Atlantic ocean would be about 10 degress or chillier. once in, you would go into shock, hypothermia would start to set in, leaving no energy to pull yourself onto an iceberg.
that theory assumes anyway that the iceberg was the correct shape for pulling oneself onto it. pictures of icebergs i have seen look impossible for you to pull yourself onto them while being in the water.
and exactly HOW did they survive for a week with no water? (ocean water is salty, leading to dehydration, ice from the berg would need to be melted)

just some thoughts to ponder... wink2.gif
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