I always wonder about this, lets say hitler was caught would they kill him sentence him to life or tourcher or something like that i would say tourcher. This is only for seriose crimes.

while i do admire your passion towards this idea, (i would probably chose death sentence, but who knows dependent upon what they offender had done) however, what about a selection for those who would chose to let the offender live so they could forgive them. just saying the selections for the poll seem to be a bit...in favour of pain for the person involved. not saying that's a bad thing all the time...just an observance.

Its spelled torture

Anyway, Death should be the punishment for criminals such as Murderers, rapists, happy slappers, muggers, burglars, con-men, repeat offenders, etc Basically any crime that in aimed at individual citizens and not establishments (e.g. breaking into someone's house and stealing their possessions is an act so evil it can only be truly be avenged by hanging the b*stard, however stop-lifting will sickening isn't as bad as its not aimed at an individual and doesn't have the same psychological impact on the victim).

Torture should be used on terrorists to find out their info. And then they should be shot in the head and cremated in secret so that they don't become martyrs.


I'm a lovely person arn't I

you dont torture someone like hitler. he was the leader of the most feared enemy of the 20th century. an evil man yes, but you must repsect his military genius. they would have sent him to prison, but he might have asked to be killed now that i think about it...

I'm against torture (for the most part anyway)

I don't think society should bear the finacial burden of keeping criminals alive for life in prison.

Kill 'em and use their organs for transplants.

Torture, thanks for that i did spell check and it didnt help lol sorry. But if they die then they havent lurnet their lesson. Tortue them a lil.

Some say Terrrorists Some say Freedom fighters. America steals oil and bombs them saying osama is there and binladen, might as well take oil while your at it lol, forcing people to resist and you call them terrorists ? Hell i would fight back, back with a big aeroplane, but that was an inside job apparently

I doubt very much even torture is going to make some criminals learn their lessions, they're just to far gone.




I'm afraid I don't quite see what part of murdering the primary school children of Beslan and similar acts can be seen as the act of a 'freedom fighter'.

I agree with talon on this, torture can be used as a valuable tool, especially against terrorists.

torture is inhumane

yes, though some would say death penalty is also...'eye for an eye only leaves the whole world blind' and whatnot, i do understand the concept of harming someone to save others is a bit...odd, barbaric even, yet, you gotta ask where would your priorities be if torture was the only way to stop another terrorist attack? (not saying torture is even that effective btw, merely playing devil's advocate, that and i'm slightly biased towards any means necessary, watched too many bruce willis movies...)

life in prison.

The life he would have had if he were in a kind of imprisonment would be far worse than death, I think.

Incidentally, the Spell Check button is something to be aware of.

why does everyone harp on using the spell check? i can understand misspelled words so dont give them a hard time!

costs to much, i say a bullet in the head and its done

I agree

So? If you capture a member of a terrorist Cell, and you need to know what his buddies intend to blow up, I really couldn't care less if torturing him for that info is 'inhumane'. I didn't see the Beslen terrorists acting in a humane manner when they stormed into a primary school, shot the males, raped the females (including the 5-year olds), and then proceeded to blow themselves up along with the children. So you'll have to excuse me, if I really don't care about the rights of sub-humans.

sorry i forgot to edit, i meant the "terrorists" protecting their own country not the whole bombing thing, i meant people fighting off soilders in iraq but lets get back to the point.

If someone commits murder there should be a very good investigating with no missing details, and if they are found to be guilty, a shot in the head should do.
In Australia there was this one young man who was trafficing drugs to people in indonesia i think it was and we had a momorial day because he got executed. I mean he was bloody killing people with drugs and possible children, so i say he desrved to die. If you make a stupid choice then suffer the consiquinses.

Torture,then lie to them and say they will be let free,then on the day they think they are allowed out, kill them.

I'm not about to acknowledge a guy as a military genius after he fired all of his highest ranking generals and stormed into Siberia in the middle of the winter under his own command. But, in any case, I go with death as the appropriate punishment. Torture is inhumane, and making them suffer isn't going to help any. The point of the punishment is not to teach them a lesson, but to do justice to those that they wronged. Also, in prison, there would be a high cost of upkeep, and that small chance that the criminal can find a loop hole and get out. We can't risk them getting back into the public, and we could use the amount it takes to sustain them for much better things, such as compensation to the families of that persons victims or something of the like...

Torture and Death penalty are inhumane...They make you just as bad as the criminal...Give them life...I personally think that's worse.

There are other ways to get info out of terrorists...Its called bribery and interrogation...Bribery as in protection and reduced sentence.

I picked torture, so he can feel psychologicall, and physical pain. On what he/she did.

Hardly the point. If we are going to have an intelligent discussion the very least everyone can do is to take the time to spell things correctly.
More for their sake than everyone elses, they will rarely be taken seriously if it seems they cant even spell what they mean.

Torturing the criminal makes you worse than the criminal himself...Plus, you can get tried for war crimes OR it can go bad like Abu Gharaid.

I hate it when people spell simple words wrongs...Its a pet peeve.

How dare you. What makes you so high and mighty that you have the right to sit there and claim that people who murder and butcher children have the right to be treated as humans, and condemn those who are willing to do what is needed to protect us as criminals. I don’t mind you being a pacifist and so against the death penalty, but you have NO right to brand us with the same pen as criminals!
If in you're world defending our children and ourselves from predators might make us no better than the murderers, rapists and terrorists who kill without mercy and have no compassion towards others, but thankfully you're views are a minority.

Its because of people with that attitude crime in the west is out of control, criminals are given more human rights than victims, and that there are innocent people out there suffering and dying at the hands of sub-human scum, and all because people with the attitude as you have fight for the rights of criminals who lost their right to be members of society the moment they took arms against the decent law abiding members of society.

Give them life? Don’t me laugh, cause all that does is drain resources for schools and hospitals, while running the very real threat that some warped idiot with some arrogant and pompous view of the world and how it works will come along and demand the criminal’s right to live without bars and restraints because in their bleeding-heart fantasy the world is a big fluffy thing where everyone gets alone and even the worst members are only victims of their environments and should not be punished for it. When in real-life all that happens is prison gives the criminal an open gate to the outside world to commit their acts of horror all over again, all that’s needed is some pretentious do-gooder who believes the state defending its citizens makes it ‘just as bad as the criminal’, to come along and give the sub-human filth a key.

Holy sh** !! BAHAHAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Talon, you seem to really love children, meybe a little to much joke

well think about it, some kills a child for whatever reson like the kid spilt and ice cream on him or something so he kills the lil bastard, so now we trail him. an eye for an eye. Others say prison some say for life, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUNG CHILDREN YOU SICK F*** LETS ALLLL GET BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF MAJOR CRIME NOT JUST 1 LIFE BUT THOUSANDS EVEN MILLIONS. Hitler killed more than one i only swear to get back to the point and lets not go on about this.

Agreed

Talon - I like your views on this

You will never find out who the dark haired accomplice with an accent was from Timothy McVey. Maybe after years in prison under various tactics you could have. There is more to learn from the guilty than just how they came to be that way, although that is important too.

Nothing is more guanteed to close a case than an execution and the justice system wants these cases closed to appease the public. They are perfectly willing many times and in many places for an innocent person to take the fall if they are unable to find the guilty one in a timely fashion. That has been proven over and over again by the innocent people found in prison that have later been cleared.

You do not teach that people have a right to life by taking it away from some because sometimes there are "reasons" that make it ok.

The death penalty is wrong in so many ways.

I'm sorry, you're grammar's pretty bad here, so I didn't quite follow everything. But the impression I get is you don't want us talking about crimes such as killing children because you don't see them as 'major' ad want us to discuss the death penatly in relation to mass murders like Hitler?

Well, I don't know what you think killing children counts as, but as far I'm concerned, it does count as a 'major crime'

Sorry talon my gramma is some what.....s***, due to my retardedness, I am bosnian.
talon killing children who have futur is bad but 1 life compared to hundreds of thousands is a different story, like lets say killing MANY children, that would be major major, get it ?
i wish to stay on the subject of mass murder not just murder, mass murder on a wide scale.

kill one child.
Kill hundreds of thousands.

Yeah, you are really making no sense.






Life in prison....and not like some prison where you got all these comforts. A Place with 8x8 box with a mattress, pillow, blanket, and toilet and sink, and a slot in the door for food. Don't kill them, but don't make life easy.

Human are still humans...They must follow the International Declaration of Human Rights. That's why I'm against the Death Penalty. Life in jail w/o parole is worse....

In my perfect world...

You kill, sexual crimes, or robbing someone of a normal life you should be tortured publicly. When the common citizan gets the screams, gags of pain, the deafening silence of bearing it and the ulimate breaking to just crying and finally asking to die, stuck in their head they will think twice about the next time they do something wrong.

Then of course, hanged. Can't let them live. Filthy creatures.

Life in prison would be for serious but crimes outside those listed such as mulitable thefts, crimes and such. Not enough to warrent death but give them time to think on what they did till they die in a small cramped cell with their roommate on the top bunk.

Rapists, Killers and such should just be killed.

You know what i didnt put up ? good education and living conditions to prevent people to kill and steal because there is no point. In australia a majority of the aboriginal population and bogans * bogans are the equivilant of white trash* are ussually the ones who start trouble, they live in really bad living conditions and ussually wear gansta clothing

Death for crimes like murder and rape. I do believe people can change, but the majority don't. I don't think the risk is worth it. Look at how many rapists and sexual offenders get out of jail after the sentance is up and just do the same thing again. If not death at least life in prison. Even then, I really don't think that they'd think about what they did. They get three meals a day, a place to sleep, exercise and television. IMO, I would rather just not be breathing the same air as people like that, and it's not like they contribute to society.

who's up for Kratos as president? I would get dual citizenship, just to vote for you.

LOL^

I voted life, but tourcher is also an alternative.

DEATH, ARE YOU KIDDING WITH ME !!!??? IF WE KILL THEM WE ARE AS BAD AS THEY ARE !!!

I think the only way we'd be as bad as them, is if we killed them in the way they killed someone. I'm pretty sure most murderer's dont use a syringe to make a tiny poke of an injection to kill people. Just my opinion.

^ Good point, but still....I don't really like the idea of killing for punishment, but it really depeneds on the case.

Death, the scum deserves to die!

Well for them to learn a lesson we put them for life in prison, becuase they cant learn if they are dead.