maxmax12
Mar 25 2006, 04:52 PM
i was reading throght the topic about the end of the world in 2012 n i started 2 wonder what will happen what do u guy think?
TwilightSilver
Mar 25 2006, 07:22 PM
I don't beleive anything will happen. There was an interesting article on here explaining that the Mayan Calendar is not actually going to end in 2012.
[b]Professor challenges Mayan Calendar Opinion
The end of the world will come on Dec. 21, 2012. Or not. While some New Age authors and teachers are touting that date as an apocalypse, a Stetson University professor is challenging the reasoning behind it. At a public lecture at the Volusia County Library Center on City Island today, Robert Sitler plans to discuss "The 2012 Phenomenon: A New Age Appropriation of an Ancient Mayan Calendar," an article he wrote last month for Nova Religio, the Journal of Alternative and Emergent Religions. Sitler, an associate professor of Spanish language and literature, has been studying and teaching Mayan culture since arriving at Stetson in 1994. He contends the Mayan calendar has long been the subject of "gross misinterpretation" on several hundred Web sites and in a continuous stream of books. Those postings and printings are evidence of a growing public interest in the Mayan Long Count calendar, which had fallen out of use by the Mayans of Guatemala, Mexico and Belize, long before the Spanish conquerors had arrived.
The 2012 date is the last day of the current "b'aktun" cycle, or period of 144,000 days, and the final day of an even longer period consisting of 13 such cycles. No one knows why the calendar is arranged with an end date, Sitler said. But the Mayans were known for their accurate knowledge of astronomy. "It's a weird concept to many because the calendar seems to have a preordained ending date," said Jeremy Puma, a Seattle resident and St. Augustine native who writes Fantastic Planet, a "gnostic" blog. He noted in an e-mail interview that the Mayans used the calendar for planting crops and other purposes, but the New Age movement "seems to have glommed onto the calendar's more mythological aspects." First and foremost, Sitler and Puma agree, is New Age author Jose Arguelles, most famed for his declaration of a "Harmonic Convergence" in August 1987. The Harmonic Convergence, Arguelles said, was the "exponential acceleration of the wave harmonic of history as it phases into a moment of unprecedented synchronization," and "a shift point into the last 25 years of the galactic beam."
Still not good on linking these things. I'll be sitting on my porch with some damn good music on, and have a cigg in one hand, a beer in the other. Who knows. It's probably going to be another Y2K scare, but you still can play it safe, right?
frogfish
Mar 25 2006, 08:42 PM
Nothing will happen...Its just mass paranoia.
Oderint
Mar 25 2006, 09:44 PM
On the 21st of december, 2012 (wasn't it?) - I will drink my last glass of coca cola.
or the first of many
Thanato
Mar 26 2006, 12:18 AM
I will probably sleep, you know gotta be well rested for a days work, eh
~Thanato
strangebutsmart
Mar 26 2006, 03:30 AM
I would take the last breath of life while doing everything I wanted.
*gun clicks*, *Pretends to be a soprano*
thefounder
Mar 26 2006, 05:58 AM
I will mount a machine gun to the top of my jewelry store to protect my assets from looters. Before then, I will take advantage of all those religious people by preparing to short sell many stocks... Its a tough world.
Engulf
Mar 26 2006, 05:59 AM
I think before anything else, I could at least post a response towards a thread where it should be at some other category, and not conspiracies. The appropriate discussion should take place where the interested ones are ready there, rather than here who are discussing politics and economics.
The Silver Thong
Mar 26 2006, 06:17 AM
Paranoia will destroy ya.
It has nothing to do with the end of the world.
In the Myan times they believed the sacrifice(of humans) was the key to generating a new "time" They did think that with,human sacrifice the world or "gods" may rebel and wipe us out so to speak.
This i think is the comming of the 5 th and well 2012 very close and thats's when there calender runs out, but not time or humans. We need not worry. Take a look at finger prints of the Gods. very cool stuff.
How ever advanced they may have been, the end of the world no. But to add we may not be as smart as we like to think we are.

they may have had a glimpse to what we are blind to.
Glacies
Mar 26 2006, 06:22 AM
I'm going to party like it's 1999. oh how i used to party back then...i used to party, dare i say it, hardy.
nothing's going to happen folks, but that's a story for another time.
Master-J
Mar 26 2006, 07:01 AM
maybe the mayans all died while making the callender and it happened to be on the 31st of 2011.....
_hAiLO_
Mar 26 2006, 08:19 AM
I'm going to stock up on frozen foods....
Engulf
Mar 26 2006, 08:27 AM
Ok just for the sake of responding to the initial intention of the post; the Mayans time and time again stated that they did not and have never concluded that the end of the world is coming in 2012, it is you people who are fearful, doubtful, ignorant and living in denials love brandishing it that way, then finding ways to refute it, then finally debunking it to ease on your adrenaline rush.
It is the end times, where the systems and the reality which we see in our everyday life will come to a collapse. Not that the planet will explode and go to pieces like Tiamat, or humanity will die thanks to a comet collision, or aliens invading and zapping our nutrients from our bodies; it is the system which has all the while binded us that will come to a halt. Karma in other words, is chasing back to us now. You accept Karma, it will be easier for understanding. If not (like humanity right now), times will be hard on us. Look at your Bible, repent now or God will send punishment by punishment to you. It is not God who will do the caning here, but our Karma; whatever instabilities and unharmonious balances we've triggered and muster, will come tilting back to the initial normality. Unless we see the perspective, we'll have a hard time in the coming times because our scope and depth of control is way out of hand (not even close in comparison) to the Father, so resistance is futile. Sit down, take a glance at your life and surroundings of the world in a matured way and think...maybe it'll all make sense to you people some day, because it has already to me.
TheLikeness
Mar 26 2006, 11:34 AM
wasn't this the date of the supposed alien invasion of earth in "the x-files" ?
MID
Mar 26 2006, 06:04 PM
QUOTE(maxmax12 @ Mar 25 2006, 11:52 AM) [snapback]1120093[/snapback]
i was reading throght the topic about the end of the world in 2012 n i started 2 wonder what will happen what do u guy think?
The same thing will happen on 1 January 2012 that happened on 1 January 2000, after all the insane and completely fallacious hype about Y2K and all the potential millennial horrors was exhausted...
Nothing. At least nothing mystical or associated with a date...(?)
Being that 1 January 2012 is a Sunday, I personally will probably wake up early in the morning, as I generally do, and enjoy the sunrise (unless it's cloudy). I did that on 1 January 2000 as well, marveling that the world hadn't ended, the ATMs all still worked, no one's computer fried, no aiplanes fell out of the sky (jeezus!), no anarchy had magically erupted at the stroke of midnight, etc.
You see, a date is simply a man-made construct. It has no bearing on anything but the human need to organize time, which is also something man created. To think that anything significant will occur in nature because of some illusory date designation is folly. The planet doesn't care about silly human mythological constructs.
Zking
Mar 26 2006, 07:05 PM
Nothing will happen on Januray 1st,2012. That is just rediculous to think taht just because a calander, that a civlization invented hundreds, maybe even over a thousand years ago, ends on, people think it's the end of the world. I mean sure their will be a definite end to the earth (and the rest of the solar system) but on December 31st 2011, I'll be sitting in my house, reading the paper, and at the stroke of midnight, go to my window and see if the world has ended, which it wont.
frenat
Mar 26 2006, 07:12 PM
Our calendar ends every Dec 31st. Does the world end every year?
riotboy555
Mar 26 2006, 07:25 PM
I'll be at home, crying myself to sleep that I'm spending new year's alone. Or probably be posting here. Still crying though.
Mr. Blonde
Mar 26 2006, 09:28 PM
Heroin.
Haha.
Thats only if it really looks like somethings gonna go down; other than that theres no need for it.
Bloody Tears
Mar 26 2006, 10:21 PM
well, im not gonna take any chances, so ill go get laid on...well whatever date that is.
Bobzilla
Mar 27 2006, 12:40 AM
Yeah, it isn't December 31. The new cycle begins either on or after the winter solstice. Anyone? December 21.
Immortal Norway
Mar 30 2006, 11:17 AM
QUOTE
On the 21st of december, 2012 (wasn't it?)
Absoulutly correct, Prawus !
Anyway, I`m probobly going to do one of these two things:
1. Defend you human-beings from getting acekicked by my alienbrothers.
Ore...
2. Return to my homeplanet and laugh and laugh and laugh.
Harpie Lady
Mar 30 2006, 09:22 PM
I think the world will end in 2012. YOU KNOW WHY? Because of global warming......
The artic is melting at a rate that even sciencetist cant explained. The diseases that there is worldwide, the million of childrens who suffer and die daily, Are weather beeing all screwed up, The war over in Iraq, It's in REVALAtIONS... The SEALS have been opened.....
Bobzilla
Mar 30 2006, 10:21 PM
QUOTE(Harpie Lady @ Mar 30 2006, 03:22 PM) [snapback]1127348[/snapback]
I think the world will end in 2012. YOU KNOW WHY? Because of global warming......
The artic is melting at a rate that even sciencetist cant explained. The diseases that there is worldwide, the million of childrens who suffer and die daily, Are weather beeing all screwed up, The war over in Iraq, It's in REVALAtIONS... The SEALS have been opened.....
Good call Harpie
truthorder
Mar 30 2006, 11:23 PM
QUOTE
The same thing will happen on 1 January 2012 that happened on 1 January 2000, after all the insane and completely fallacious hype about Y2K and all the potential millennial horrors was exhausted...
Actually, that's a little wrong. There will be a
lot happening on that day. Just as there was a
lot that happened leading up to, and on January 1st, 2000.
Some entrapeneurs with well-placed strategies (such as independent grocery-store owners) are going to suddenly become very, very wealthy.
Which speaks directly to how stupid we, as a species, really are. If it's the end of the world, why would it matter if you stocked up on food and other supplies? If you're going to die anyway, why buy all that crap?
But people will still do it. And the people that realize it and have the supplies to sell it are the ones who are going to be getting rich. When the next day dawns and everyone is sitting in their basements amongst the piles of Twinkies, take a good look at the corner grocery guy.
He'll be the one with paper cuts all over his hands from counting up all his cash.
MID
Mar 30 2006, 11:42 PM
QUOTE(truthorder @ Mar 30 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]1127540[/snapback]
Actually, that's a little wrong. There will be a lot happening on that day. Just as there was a lot that happened leading up to, and on January 1st, 2000.
Some entrapeneurs with well-placed strategies (such as independent grocery-store owners) are going to suddenly become very, very wealthy.
Which speaks directly to how stupid we, as a species, really are. If it's the end of the world, why would it matter if you stocked up on food and other supplies? If you're going to die anyway, why buy all that crap?
But people will still do it. And the people that realize it and have the supplies to sell it are the ones who are going to be getting rich. When the next day dawns and everyone is sitting in their basements amongst the piles of Twinkies, take a good look at the corner grocery guy.
He'll be the one with paper cuts all over his hands from counting up all his cash.
You know, you're absolutely correct,
truthorder.
That is indeed going to happen. I had almost forgotten that aspect of "the millennium".
I can't imagine why I would neglect that aspect. After all, grocery store owners and such make a winfall every time it snows in the United States (via doom and gloom over normal, frequent lovely white frozen water crystals falling out of the sky in the winter). All that molding bread that has to be thrown out...all those gallons of denatured animal secretion (milk)that sour and have to be poured down the drain after each "winter storm warning"...all that toilet paper sitting in closets waiting to wipe someone, some months down the road.
How stupid of me not to have thought of that!
I just didn't think about the profits on generators and surplus food stocks that some people indulged in (and of course which they're still staring at, and probably paying for in dismay, and which they will forget all about, and repeat the process in 2012) prior to 2000.
I stand corrected.
That is indeed the most intelligent assessment I've seen here. Beats the heck out of global warming theories for sure!
Regards.
darkmoonlady
Mar 30 2006, 11:45 PM
The Mayans never wrote that the world would come to an end. They had calender CYCLES that ended. Some more significant than others. They did say that when a cycle ended and this one in particular that as happened before (according to mayans), nature went haywire, animals attacked, things fell from the sky (didn't say comets more like things shook and things fell) and what is interpreted by this is POSSIBLY technology which has sort of taken the place of nature will somehow fail us or attack us.
The idea of the world ending on that date stems from and I kid you not a tv show. A man who I wish I could remember his name, liked to make these nifty charts, by inputting all the major events of the last two thousand years into a computer to form sort of a graph to see if historical events had a pattern. His chart once done, showed a drop off at December 21, 2012, the line just dropped off. This show was one of those like "Sightings" or Nostradamus type shows. People have used that idea thinking the world will end but the Mayans never said that. It is just the end of a cycle nothing more.
distortedpandy
Mar 30 2006, 11:53 PM
ohhh I think I'll crack open a beer...light a smoke and sit back and enjoy the ride
yes, this is what I would do...
Michelle
Mar 31 2006, 12:01 AM
...and party like it's 1999.
distortedpandy
Mar 31 2006, 12:32 AM
gotta love prince
chemical-licker
May 30 2007, 12:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-prt5d6m6sjust a video about 2012 prediction by terrence mckenna,
Unlimited
May 30 2007, 12:32 PM
sigh more 2012 predictions....I'll hopefully be in a boat kicking it in the caribean...
chemical-licker
May 30 2007, 10:27 PM
i hope it sinks
MID
May 30 2007, 11:39 PM
QUOTE(distortedpandy @ Mar 30 2006, 07:53 PM) [snapback]1127570[/snapback]
ohhh I think I'll crack open a beer...light a smoke and sit back and enjoy the ride
yes, this is what I would do...
Yes...
I recall doing that on 12-31-1999, while the world was idiotically waiting for the end. In fact, I was asleep long before the "end" actually came, so I don't rembember it!
It seemed to me that on 1-1-2000, "The Millenium" hadn't had any effect on anything.
...But Lord knows I was waiting for those airliners to start falling out of the sky...
Of course, it's simply an arbitrary man-made date, it wasn't actually "The Millenium" anyway, and the idea that anything could've happened of catastrophic nature was insane to begin with.
12-31-12 will be much the same, just another man-made distinction that the Universe doesn't actually care about.
It'll probabably be a nice reason to party, however, and have a laugh at the large number of people who think the world will end.
p.s., in 2012, we'll be on the Moon again. Remarkable things will be happening, and Al Gore and his global warming scare will have been relegated to the trash heap, just as his associates in the 1970s have been so relegated...after they predicted a global ice age ca. 1975-1980...which of course, never happened, since we're in a warming period following a global ice age that occurred 10,000 years past....
REBEL
May 30 2007, 11:54 PM
Hopefully be in the company of a fine woman. If i'm going anywhere i want to go out with a bang(fireworks)
If not ...*Happy New Year*
MoonPrincess
May 31 2007, 12:11 AM
Nothing will happen when that date rolls around.
I don't know what I'll be doing on that date. Probably either watching t.v. or on the computer. Or on the computer while watching t.v. :/
phunk
May 31 2007, 06:51 PM
MID, to be fair, it was all the paranoia about the y2k bug that resulted in it being a non-event. I guess you'd call it a self-defeating prophecy. Y2k bugs WERE a serious problem, but all the hype resulted in most of them getting fixed before Y2k.
2012 though, that's just a lot of nonsense. So what if a calendar ends then, my calender ends every new years, and all that happens is it starts over again.
Celumnaz
May 31 2007, 07:08 PM
2012 is a distraction, it's gonna happen 2010 all unexpected like a thief in the night... *nodding head*

Or, fun, 2012 nothing happens and ppl get sick of predictions and stop preparing for them and boom in 2015
MID
May 31 2007, 10:30 PM
QUOTE(phunk @ May 31 2007, 02:51 PM) [snapback]1702817[/snapback]
MID, to be fair, it was all the paranoia about the y2k bug that resulted in it being a non-event. I guess you'd call it a self-defeating prophecy. Y2k bugs WERE a serious problem, but all the hype resulted in most of them getting fixed before Y2k.
2012 though, that's just a lot of nonsense. So what if a calendar ends then, my calender ends every new years, and all that happens is it starts over again.
Yes, I know the potential problems that may have resulted, and of course there were plenty of patches and remedies for what could've been annoying troubles. I'm speaking more to the doom that was prophesized....things like
airplanes falling out of the sky (they actually put idiotic graphics showing this happening on the mainstream media outlets...it was hilarious).
(...you'd be amazed at how many people did not understand that airplanes actually cannot fall out of the sky...even if their engines quit) I saw a graphic showing a jet...flying along at midnight on 12-31-99, suddenly, everything goes black, and the airplane takes a nose dive. These people were serious!
But we'll certainly agree that nothing about 2012 poses any significant issue whatsoever. It's a date. A date is man made and has no bearing on nature, what it does, etc....
Ashigaru
Jun 1 2007, 02:16 AM
I'll probably be drunk.
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