perplexed the topic you started had nothing to do with orbs.
dancin hampster exactly, unfortunately the orb craze has set off loads of people into a delusion that they can photograph spirits now and wont accept any rational, clear evidence to show it is not the case as they want more than anything for them to be paranormal.
ohwell
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You have to admit that orbs are loads of fun.
I can tell you now that orbs seen in real are spirits, but ive been drinking the spirits tonight, they are bouncing my brain!
I am both a believer and a skeptic. I agree with the skeptics that the orbs photos were not being the "best evidences of paranormal" since anyone can make it up but i also agree with the believers that there are certain orbs evidences which are hard to explain. i am not so interested in the orbs photos since they don't sufficiently prove the connection between ghosts/spirits and the orbs but there are some better evidences like the orb's motion/movement video evidences. One video showed just one big orb moving intelligently in the basement and then followed the stair case and exited the basement which clearly demonstrated the "intelligence". Dust particles are not that intelligent to move up the stair and got out from the basement. So i am interested more about its motion and its intelligence, regarding it as a hoax or being edited by computer animation software.
Sorry that i don't currently have a link to this video but i guess that many of us saw that.
My belielfs:
1. Some are just dust particles. (in favor for skeptics)
2. Some are paranormal since the motion/movement are too unnatural or too intelligent(related to UFO's movement/Ghosts/etc) (in favor for believers)
Sorry that i don't currently have a link to this video but i guess that many of us saw that.
My belielfs:
1. Some are just dust particles. (in favor for skeptics)
2. Some are paranormal since the motion/movement are too unnatural or too intelligent(related to UFO's movement/Ghosts/etc) (in favor for believers)
Ah yes...orbs are real ! but you can't capture it using your camera.
They moved intelligently.
They moved intelligently.
The problem with this criterion of "moving intelligently" is that it is so poorly defined. So an "orb" flies in front of the camera, hooks a U-turn, and flies back. I've seen that called "intelligent" movement, which "couldn't" be caused by random air currents. But no one can see what the air currents are doing! They tend to be complicated, even chaotic. So we're talking about movement that appears complex, not necessarily intelligent.
Now if an "orb" responded reliably to requests to move here or there or spell out messages on a Ouija board, I'd call that intelligent movement. Or maybe if an orb moved in geometric patterns wholly uncharacteristic of random air currents. Something like that.
Now if an "orb" responded reliably to requests to move here or there or spell out messages on a Ouija board, I'd call that intelligent movement. Or maybe if an orb moved in geometric patterns wholly uncharacteristic of random air currents. Something like that.
QUOTE(boorite @ May 20 2006, 10:33 PM) [snapback]1198581[/snapback]
The problem with this criterion of "moving intelligently" is that it is so poorly defined. So an "orb" flies in front of the camera, hooks a U-turn, and flies back. I've seen that called "intelligent" movement, which "couldn't" be caused by random air currents. But no one can see what the air currents are doing! They tend to be complicated, even chaotic. So we're talking about movement that appears complex, not necessarily intelligent.
Now if an "orb" responded reliably to requests to move here or there or spell out messages on a Ouija board, I'd call that intelligent movement. Or maybe if an orb moved in geometric patterns wholly uncharacteristic of random air currents. Something like that.
Totally agree. If you could catch one on film spelling out it's name then I might think it was more than dust. Or even as you said if it went in the direction of a command then it would be harder to disprove.
Hi.
I think orbs are not only *dust*.
I took photos during years and NO ORBS IN IT.
In only ONE OCCASION AND A VERY SPECIAL ONE I discovered orbs in my photo.
If orbs are dust then I must have lots of them in all my photos
I think orbs are not only *dust*.
I took photos during years and NO ORBS IN IT.
In only ONE OCCASION AND A VERY SPECIAL ONE I discovered orbs in my photo.
If orbs are dust then I must have lots of them in all my photos
saying not all orbs are dust is like taking a picture in a crowded room and saying oh look that person there might not be human.
They have been debunked beyond belief yet still are considered evidence.
As for intelligent movement i think ive seen similar videos, but its just a coincidence that the air current moves them to a particular area which makes it look as though it has thought.
In reality the anomolys are millimeters from the lens, so appear large and further away.
watchwatchwatchwatchwatch---- http://www.webuilders.co.uk/orbs/orbmovie.html
They have been debunked beyond belief yet still are considered evidence.
As for intelligent movement i think ive seen similar videos, but its just a coincidence that the air current moves them to a particular area which makes it look as though it has thought.
In reality the anomolys are millimeters from the lens, so appear large and further away.
watchwatchwatchwatchwatch---- http://www.webuilders.co.uk/orbs/orbmovie.html
QUOTE(dancin'hamster @ May 20 2006, 01:59 PM) [snapback]1197424[/snapback]
Blimey!!
I've been away for a while and people are still wondering if 'orbs' are spirirts????????
Come on now......stoppit! Even the guy who invented the phrase 'orb' has now admitted it's just dust and stuff...........
LOL.... Dancin' Hamster! I sooo miss your avatar...... welcome back. Yo have been gone for a while.
No one seems to understand that these orbs are nothing, but instead, I've seen this topic repeat itself over and over.
QUOTE(boorite @ May 20 2006, 06:29 PM) [snapback]1198212[/snapback]
You have to admit that orbs are loads of fun.
Why would looking at dust particles be fun?
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ May 21 2006, 04:54 PM) [snapback]1199172[/snapback]
Why would looking at dust particles be fun?
Because they look all luminescent and colorful, and they float and zip around as if they have minds of their own, and it's cool to think they're all around us all the time, and we almost never notice them.
My girlfriend (ivytheplant) has had great fun with pics of dust. I love 'em. C'mon, tell me these aren't fun.
QUOTE(boorite @ May 21 2006, 08:22 PM) [snapback]1199935[/snapback]
Because they look all luminescent and colorful, and they float and zip around as if they have minds of their own, and it's cool to think they're all around us all the time, and we almost never notice them.
My girlfriend (ivytheplant) has had great fun with pics of dust. I love 'em. C'mon, tell me these aren't fun.
I didn't know she was your g/f!! She is cool and the gang! I've surfed around her website and she seems a bit of alright!!
Uh-oh I'm
I think that orb pics will probably always be interesting just because they have that tenuous connection with the paranormal even if they were disproved. Just like the flash lit camera strap, they're just a kick to look at...
A friend of mine went to China and took a picture in this old temple thing. Neither he or me thinks that there are 'spirits' in this picture as such (We can't decide what 'orbs' are yet but keeping an opened mind.)
I told him that it could be dust but he said that this is the only picture he has taken in there that has got 'orbs' in it and there seem to be a huge number of these 'orbs' in there. He was just wondering what people think of the picture and if there is a logical explaination for the sudden appearance.
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I told him that it could be dust but he said that this is the only picture he has taken in there that has got 'orbs' in it and there seem to be a huge number of these 'orbs' in there. He was just wondering what people think of the picture and if there is a logical explaination for the sudden appearance.
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Gawd that pic is huge!!
The same kinda thing happened to me when I toured Sandringham House in England. The only place I got orbs was in the hunting rooms where all the hunting trophies were!! Weird....
The same kinda thing happened to me when I toured Sandringham House in England. The only place I got orbs was in the hunting rooms where all the hunting trophies were!! Weird....
QUOTE(Alisa @ Mar 27 2006, 10:47 PM) [snapback]1123168[/snapback]
I think some excellent points and examples have been made here.
Excellent photo from Earthchick. But I have to say that I think that photo contains orbs. In fact, orbs love rain. This makes it pretty sticky with critics, I know. I capture far more orbs when I take photos in the rain. But, I capture identical looking orbs in the same places (though often in fewer numbers) when it is as dry as a bone. It may be energy from raining, or the atmosphere, or simply the love of rain, I do not know!
But, if orbs love rain, as I believe they do, and critics insist that any orbs showing up in photos taken in the rain are water drops, this makes it a bit difficult to argue. So instead I hope to appeal to those that believe in orbs as spirits more so than trying to convince those that don't. Hence, all due respect to those that wish to believe orbs are particulate. I am not trying to change your mind, but if you want to, that is okay with me.
I will make another post after organizing my orbs photos (taken during rain).
Feanor, thanks for the extremely respectful arguement. I would love to see your photo of the red orb. I have a great interest in red orbs. Here is one of only a few in which I have managed to capture a reddish orb.
The fact that this orb is amongst other non-reddish orbs shows me that it is not a tinting anomaly. So I can't help but wonder what creature it was while alive.
Bogeyman, your post is great! I wonder why, after collecting some pretty good evidence with all of the dusty factory photos sans orbs, you believe the vast majority of orbs are dust. And you also seem to see a connection between some orbs and possible spirits (of family).
Let me just say this... of the billions of souls that have lived on this planet, including animals, why the heck would the air (sky, space) not be chockful of spirits and hence validate orbs being everywhere? In fact, in many of my night time photos with orbs in them, when I begin to brighten, and brighten, and brighten the photo, more and more orbs appear far off into the distance, often completely filling the sky. Yet they are not at all visible in the first look at the photo. If anyone is slightly curious, check some of your photos in a photo program by contrasting it a bit at a time to see if there are orbs that are so faint they can't otherwise be seen. To me, the whole idea of orbs, ghosts, etc., is all about exploration. Not even proving or arguing, just looking outward with curiosity and excitement about what else might exist, and what might happen to us when we pass, and who else might be living beside us that we can learn about and befriend.
just thought i would add this pic.
i caught a "red orb" on camera at my mums house. it is outlined in green.
My mom died in a car accident on June 10, 2005 in California. We are from New york, but came over for my grandfather's funeral. My mom died 10 days after my grandfather, so their ashes were placed in niches that are right next to each other.
Today is July 3, 2006, and I came over from New York to visit my mom's in her resting place. I took some pictures of the places where my she is buried, and there are several pictures with orbs in them. The one shown here have a particularly clear orb, it is hovering approximately above my mom's grave. I remember reading some articles a while ago on ghost or spirituals manifesting into energy balls call orbs and can usually captured on photos around cemetary or haunted place. As you can see its was already dark outside, and there are really nothing for me to take pictures of. But being a skepitcal person, I decided to take several quick pictures around the graves to see if any of the orbs stories are really true.
I know some people might say its dust particle or something due to the lenses from my camera, but I personally doubt this consideration because I have taken many pictures. I love to take pictures, and I usually takes about an average of 100 pictures a weeks, indoor and outdoors, day time, night time, and of almost everything, but I never have orbs in any of my photos before. But today I only took about 15 pictures at my mom's burial place and 5 of my photos have an orbs or several in them. This is a very new cemetery (only 2 years old). It in a small garden belong to a small parish, they only have enough space for less than 50 person and only (1/3) of these spaces are occuppied, that could be the reason why there are some orbs, but not too many, but I am not sure.
One year ago, there was this another creepy thing that happened in a photo that I took at this same place. When we were there to place my grandfather's ash in his niche, I took a picture of his photo on a bench. But somehow my grandmother's face appears in the photos too, right next to my dead grandfather's face. I dont know how her face somehow got reflected onto his picture. When I showed it to other people, they said it an omen or some signs. Then 4 days later my mom and my grandmother got into a car accident and my mom died instantly, and my grandmother is still in a coma (over a year) and have not gotten better.
Today is July 3, 2006, and I came over from New York to visit my mom's in her resting place. I took some pictures of the places where my she is buried, and there are several pictures with orbs in them. The one shown here have a particularly clear orb, it is hovering approximately above my mom's grave. I remember reading some articles a while ago on ghost or spirituals manifesting into energy balls call orbs and can usually captured on photos around cemetary or haunted place. As you can see its was already dark outside, and there are really nothing for me to take pictures of. But being a skepitcal person, I decided to take several quick pictures around the graves to see if any of the orbs stories are really true.
I know some people might say its dust particle or something due to the lenses from my camera, but I personally doubt this consideration because I have taken many pictures. I love to take pictures, and I usually takes about an average of 100 pictures a weeks, indoor and outdoors, day time, night time, and of almost everything, but I never have orbs in any of my photos before. But today I only took about 15 pictures at my mom's burial place and 5 of my photos have an orbs or several in them. This is a very new cemetery (only 2 years old). It in a small garden belong to a small parish, they only have enough space for less than 50 person and only (1/3) of these spaces are occuppied, that could be the reason why there are some orbs, but not too many, but I am not sure.
One year ago, there was this another creepy thing that happened in a photo that I took at this same place. When we were there to place my grandfather's ash in his niche, I took a picture of his photo on a bench. But somehow my grandmother's face appears in the photos too, right next to my dead grandfather's face. I dont know how her face somehow got reflected onto his picture. When I showed it to other people, they said it an omen or some signs. Then 4 days later my mom and my grandmother got into a car accident and my mom died instantly, and my grandmother is still in a coma (over a year) and have not gotten better.
My mom died in a car accident on June 10, 2005 in California. We are from New york, but came over for my grandfather's funeral. My mom died 10 days after my grandfather, so their ashes were placed in niches that are right next to each other.
Today is July 3, 2006, and I came over from New York to visit my mom's in her resting place. I took some pictures of the places where my she is buried, and there are several pictures with orbs in them. The one shown here have a particularly clear orb, it is hovering approximately above my mom's grave. I remember reading some articles a while ago on ghost or spirituals manifesting into energy balls call orbs and can usually captured on photos around cemetary or haunted place. As you can see its was already dark outside, and there are really nothing for me to take pictures of. But being a skepitcal person, I decided to take several quick pictures around the graves to see if any of the orbs stories are really true.
I know some people might say its dust particle or something due to the lenses from my camera, but I personally doubt this consideration because I have taken many pictures. I love to take pictures, and I usually takes about an average of 100 pictures a weeks, indoor and outdoors, day time, night time, and of almost everything, but I never have orbs in any of my photos before. But today I only took about 15 pictures at my mom's burial place and 5 of my photos have an orbs or several in them. This is a very new cemetery (only 2 years old). It in a small garden belong to a small parish, they only have enough space for less than 50 person and only (1/3) of these spaces are occuppied, that could be the reason why there are some orbs, but not too many, but I am not sure.
One year ago, there was this another creepy thing that happened in a photo that I took at this same place. When we were there to place my grandfather's ash in his niche, I took a picture of his photo on a bench. But somehow my grandmother's face appears in the photos too, right next to my dead grandfather's face. I dont know how her face somehow got reflected onto his picture. When I showed it to other people, they said it an omen or some signs. Then 4 days later my mom and my grandmother got into a car accident and my mom died instantly, and my grandmother is still in a coma (over a year) and have not gotten better.
Today is July 3, 2006, and I came over from New York to visit my mom's in her resting place. I took some pictures of the places where my she is buried, and there are several pictures with orbs in them. The one shown here have a particularly clear orb, it is hovering approximately above my mom's grave. I remember reading some articles a while ago on ghost or spirituals manifesting into energy balls call orbs and can usually captured on photos around cemetary or haunted place. As you can see its was already dark outside, and there are really nothing for me to take pictures of. But being a skepitcal person, I decided to take several quick pictures around the graves to see if any of the orbs stories are really true.
I know some people might say its dust particle or something due to the lenses from my camera, but I personally doubt this consideration because I have taken many pictures. I love to take pictures, and I usually takes about an average of 100 pictures a weeks, indoor and outdoors, day time, night time, and of almost everything, but I never have orbs in any of my photos before. But today I only took about 15 pictures at my mom's burial place and 5 of my photos have an orbs or several in them. This is a very new cemetery (only 2 years old). It in a small garden belong to a small parish, they only have enough space for less than 50 person and only (1/3) of these spaces are occuppied, that could be the reason why there are some orbs, but not too many, but I am not sure.
One year ago, there was this another creepy thing that happened in a photo that I took at this same place. When we were there to place my grandfather's ash in his niche, I took a picture of his photo on a bench. But somehow my grandmother's face appears in the photos too, right next to my dead grandfather's face. I dont know how her face somehow got reflected onto his picture. When I showed it to other people, they said it an omen or some signs. Then 4 days later my mom and my grandmother got into a car accident and my mom died instantly, and my grandmother is still in a coma (over a year) and have not gotten better.
sorry to hear about that tea. i had forgotten i had taken some more pictures to show that the internal bits of the 'orbs' are caused by the lens.
i took a small pen and drew lots of faces on the camera lens (its rub off-able!) and took some pictures after kicking up dust,
they all seem to have the faces in them but only one is very clear and ill crop it & post because the pic is a bit weird (its upside down because the light comes in the lens upsidedown before being corrected, and so the faces on the lens are upside down)
but here it is:
ill have to try more but its quite hard to replicate, sometimes they have the insides stuff, somtimes they are whited out.. but yeh
i took a small pen and drew lots of faces on the camera lens (its rub off-able!) and took some pictures after kicking up dust,
they all seem to have the faces in them but only one is very clear and ill crop it & post because the pic is a bit weird (its upside down because the light comes in the lens upsidedown before being corrected, and so the faces on the lens are upside down)
but here it is:
ill have to try more but its quite hard to replicate, sometimes they have the insides stuff, somtimes they are whited out.. but yeh
QUOTE(jonb @ Jul 4 2006, 11:38 PM) [snapback]1256942[/snapback]
i took a small pen and drew lots of faces on the camera lens (its rub off-able!) and took some pictures after kicking up dust,
they all seem to have the faces in them but only one is very clear and ill crop it & post because the pic is a bit weird (its upside down because the light comes in the lens upsidedown before being corrected, and so the faces on the lens are upside down)
but here it is:
ill have to try more but its quite hard to replicate, sometimes they have the insides stuff, somtimes they are whited out.. but yeh
Jonb, can you please post the full picture that this cropped bit is from? Thanks.
Thanks for sharing the story and orb pic, LoveTea.
yop. heres the full sized one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/dea...it/facefull.jpg
cropped because some might wonder why its upside down but i explained that.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/dea...it/facefull.jpg
cropped because some might wonder why its upside down but i explained that.
QUOTE(jonb @ Jul 5 2006, 12:27 PM) [snapback]1257676[/snapback]
yop. heres the full sized one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/dea...it/facefull.jpg
cropped because some might wonder why its upside down but i explained that.
Lovely cat (I had one so much like it).
What do you attribute the "orbs" to, water or dust? Also, I can see no signs of you drawing smiley faces on the lens (unless it is the little dark grey bits seen mostly at bottom left)?
Hi alisa,
My experience with orbs shows me that spirit inhabits everything and is everywhere at all time. I believe that for anyone to see anything in orbs, that person must possess some degree of psychic sight, or else it will appears to them as just a floating dust particle, moisture droplet or whatever.
I have looked at your photo pages and I see you obviously have the 'sight'. Well done on your photographs, keep the fairy photos coming - more people need to wake up to their existence.
QUOTE(yestheyexist @ Jul 6 2006, 12:27 AM) [snapback]1258064[/snapback]
Hi alisa,
My experience with orbs shows me that spirit inhabits everything and is everywhere at all time. I believe that for anyone to see anything in orbs, that person must possess some degree of psychic sight, or else it will appears to them as just a floating dust particle, moisture droplet or whatever.
I have looked at your photo pages and I see you obviously have the 'sight'. Well done on your photographs, keep the fairy photos coming - more people need to wake up to their existence.
Thanks Yestheyexist! I feel understood and I greatly appreciate your explanation. I will continue to search for fairies. I haven't captured any recently... I wonder if they are seasonal, do you happen to know? I do continue to find them in my springtime photos when I get the time to comb through them.
Hi Alisa,
The nature spirits are everywhere, indoors and outdoors. You need to know how to look for them and at them. Once you do this they will appear to you easily. You will find them in the most unexpected places getting on with their work.
They are like humans in respect to having their own personalities. some are extrovert and want you to see them and they will often wave and smile at you. Others tend to be more reserved and creep in the shadows. I have found that they range in looks from extremely beautiful human looking to definitiely non human looking, some very cartoonish.
The sad thing is that the majority of people deny their existence and it is these wonderful beings that do natures work. I believe that as the walls between the dimensions become thinner, then more people will experience them.
The nature spirits are everywhere, indoors and outdoors. You need to know how to look for them and at them. Once you do this they will appear to you easily. You will find them in the most unexpected places getting on with their work.
They are like humans in respect to having their own personalities. some are extrovert and want you to see them and they will often wave and smile at you. Others tend to be more reserved and creep in the shadows. I have found that they range in looks from extremely beautiful human looking to definitiely non human looking, some very cartoonish.
The sad thing is that the majority of people deny their existence and it is these wonderful beings that do natures work. I believe that as the walls between the dimensions become thinner, then more people will experience them.
Yestheyexist: I enjoyed reading your post. It seems we have had some similar experiences with spirit beings. I would love to know more about your specific experiences if you wouldn't mind sharing. How long have you been working with/experiencing spirit phenomenon? Do you take photos of them?
It seems we have had some similar experiences with spirit beings. I would love to know more about your specific experiences if you wouldn't mind sharing. How long have you been working with/experiencing spirit phenomenon? Do you take photos of them?
QUOTE(yestheyexist @ Jul 6 2006, 07:37 AM) [snapback]1259059[/snapback]
Hi Alisa,
The nature spirits are everywhere, indoors and outdoors. You need to know how to look for them and at them. Once you do this they will appear to you easily. You will find them in the most unexpected places getting on with their work.
They are like humans in respect to having their own personalities. some are extrovert and want you to see them and they will often wave and smile at you. Others tend to be more reserved and creep in the shadows. I have found that they range in looks from extremely beautiful human looking to definitiely non human looking, some very cartoonish.
The sad thing is that the majority of people deny their existence and it is these wonderful beings that do natures work. I believe that as the walls between the dimensions become thinner, then more people will experience them.
when you mean cartoonish orbs, do you mean something like this?:
the only editing i did on these pictures was to brighten them up a bit.
QUOTE(Alisa @ Mar 26 2006, 03:16 AM) [snapback]1121220[/snapback]
Yes, TwilightSilver, I did enhance the photo previous to it being outlined it in yellow. Here is the original on the left. It has been enlarged and brightened, but nothing more. I have inserted the enhanced one next to it so you can see what I did.
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According to Sylvia Browne orbs are not spirits they are always angels. Interesting stuff you have going on here though, I like!
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Mar 28 2006, 03:57 AM) [snapback]1123908[/snapback]
You did not see these orbs with your naked eye, only witnessed them after taking the photograph? Beacause i have seen orbs before as a child, in groups travelling slowly and mythodically, comforting in a way. I have met one person in my life that has seen the same. I did not even think about taking a picture, for they comforted me, and i didn't even think about running and telling my mom about them, they were beautiful.. The colors were Pink, Purple and Red usually. I personally havent seen them since i was about 9... but i remmember them clear as day, moving circular together, about the size of golf balls, and 3D as can be, floating snake like, whirling and twisting one after another, not fast either... slowly..... does anyone know what they represent in the spirit realm?
Lets hear more about this if you could. You havent seen them since?
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i give up
i give up
QUOTE(Alisa @ Jul 5 2006, 03:34 AM) [snapback]1257681[/snapback]
Lovely cat (I had one so much like it).
What do you attribute the "orbs" to, water or dust? Also, I can see no signs of you drawing smiley faces on the lens (unless it is the little dark grey bits seen mostly at bottom left)?you dont see the faces within the dust ('orbs?)
thats what is causing them, that i drew on the lens.
oh and the cause of them is dust i shook up
QUOTE(jonb @ Jul 6 2006, 07:33 PM) [snapback]1260095[/snapback]
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Don't worry I always look forward to your posts showing exactly how the orbs are created.
orbs in the picture can be just a dust, a water particle, or light reflection.
As for the picture with a cowboy ghost, i don't think it's a ghost. i believe in ghost but i just don't think it is one. it may be just your imagination telling you it's a cowboy ghost. if you really insist, for me i don't see any cowboy. i'm seeing an old lady. it can be anything but not ghost. here's my own interpretation.
As for the picture with a cowboy ghost, i don't think it's a ghost. i believe in ghost but i just don't think it is one. it may be just your imagination telling you it's a cowboy ghost. if you really insist, for me i don't see any cowboy. i'm seeing an old lady. it can be anything but not ghost. here's my own interpretation.
To HUY1 .sorry I cannot see the picture clearly. By cartoonish i mean looking like a cartoon character.
My experiences show me that spirit is in everything there is no division between spirit and non spirit items. so a raindrop may be what people would class as a natural explainable phenomenon, but to those who have the 'sight' spirit will be observed within it.
The difference would be that raindrop will just fall down from the sky and will be seen by the naked eye. A spirit orb will be guided like a vehicle and move as if directed and for the most, will not be observed by the physical eye. It can also appear and disappear at will this is probably due to the vibrationary rate change of the dimensions.
One more thing I have noted, everything is subjective. Things will not always be as they appear to everyone. Where one person sees one thing another may see something different, especially with a vague defined picture - but that does not mean that it is not there!
Excellent explanations, Yestheyexist.
I captured these spirit orbs on camera about a month and a half ago. There are two orbs in the picture, one is more pronounced than the other, (in the back corner) and there is a strange, weird light in the background that I can't explain. It might have something to do with the flash, but I don't know.
Before I bought this house, I took some snap shots of the exterior and interior of the house for research, and in almost every picture I saw spirit obrs. The area that this house resides on used to be all field more than 60 years ago.
Before I bought this house, I took some snap shots of the exterior and interior of the house for research, and in almost every picture I saw spirit obrs. The area that this house resides on used to be all field more than 60 years ago.
QUOTE(yestheyexist @ Jul 7 2006, 07:01 AM) [snapback]1260526[/snapback]
My experiences show me that spirit is in everything there is no division between spirit and non spirit items. so a raindrop may be what people would class as a natural explainable phenomenon, but to those who have the 'sight' spirit will be observed within it.
The difference would be that raindrop will just fall down from the sky and will be seen by the naked eye. A spirit orb will be guided like a vehicle and move as if directed and for the most, will not be observed by the physical eye. It can also appear and disappear at will this is probably due to the vibrationary rate change of the dimensions.
so you are saying that there is spirit in everything that exists, thats fine i can possibly accept that as a rational theory.
what i dont understand is how this could be the cause for orbs?
you realise that ALL photos of orbs have been taken using flash, or in some cases there
is a strong source of light such as the sun (particularly on some videos) ans also infra red illumination devices.
so if this is the case, why would a burst of light be needed to see spirit energy, as light is observed with the naked eye, in our dimension.
the similaritys between replicating dust orbs and apparent spirit orbs that are taken in haunted locations is so strong,
that its incredible they are still to some people creditable pieces of evidence.
i wouldnt mind so much if this was a phenomena believed by few but its so common on EVERY single website/program to do with the paranormal that we will never move on to more evidence if we keep looking at this.
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To HUY1 .sorry I cannot see the picture clearly. By cartoonish i mean looking like a cartoon character.
My experiences show me that spirit is in everything there is no division between spirit and non spirit items. so a raindrop may be what people would class as a natural explainable phenomenon, but to those who have the 'sight' spirit will be observed within it.
The difference would be that raindrop will just fall down from the sky and will be seen by the naked eye. A spirit orb will be guided like a vehicle and move as if directed and for the most, will not be observed by the physical eye. It can also appear and disappear at will this is probably due to the vibrationary rate change of the dimensions.
One more thing I have noted, everything is subjective. Things will not always be as they appear to everyone. Where one person sees one thing another may see something different, especially with a vague defined picture - but that does not mean that it is not there!
Okay interesting... what sources do you go by, and what supports your belief. I hope you don't just say " I just know"....
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A spirit orb will be guided like a vehicle and move as if directed and for the most, will not be observed by the physical eye.
I have studied orbs long enough to know that there is no such behavior. I bet that there is no existing video of an orb moving that way. The reason why "orbs" recorded on videos that behave in such a way is only caused by the night vision IR mode which is caused by the reflection of the IR beam and back towards the camera. That is why recorded dust in NV / IR mode captures smaller orbs, while flashes capture greater reflections.
The movement of orbs on video seem to be life like is simple... you move and cause the air to stir.. and that is why it looks like it's following you.
Slight pressure in the air do to you walking towards or away will cause the atmospheric like pressure to compress or depress. That is why the pitch of a car changes as it goes by... from a high pitch to a low pitch.
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I have studied orbs long enough to know that there is no such behavior. I bet that there is no existing video of an orb moving that way. The reason why "orbs" recorded on videos that behave in such a way is only caused by the night vision IR mode which is caused by the reflection of the IR beam and back towards the camera. That is why recorded dust in NV / IR mode captures smaller orbs, while flashes capture greater reflections.
The movement of orbs on video seem to be life like is simple... you move and cause the air to stir.. and that is why it looks like it's following you.
Slight pressure in the air do to you walking towards or away will cause the atmospheric like pressure to compress or depress. That is why the pitch of a car changes as it goes by... from a high pitch to a low pitch.
The movement of orbs on video seem to be life like is simple... you move and cause the air to stir.. and that is why it looks like it's following you.
Slight pressure in the air do to you walking towards or away will cause the atmospheric like pressure to compress or depress. That is why the pitch of a car changes as it goes by... from a high pitch to a low pitch.
I agree! same here... not ghost but it's other things; dust particle, light, etc. anything but not ghost.
Hello,
Firstly let me remind you of my post - I said 'In my experience'. I possess psychic sight and this is how I have viewed spirit orbs and natural phenomenon orbs, such as raindrops.
I also said that to view what I see and understand from my study of paranormal anomalies, one needs to have psychic sight, or you will not be aware of what you are really seeing.
I also never mentioned ghosts - I said 'spirit' which encompasses much more than ghosts.
I could show you orb pictures but as I said if you do not see psychically, you will not see spirit.
Alisa is showing you what she views, it is her perspective from having psychic sight.
Thank you.
Firstly let me remind you of my post - I said 'In my experience'. I possess psychic sight and this is how I have viewed spirit orbs and natural phenomenon orbs, such as raindrops.
I also said that to view what I see and understand from my study of paranormal anomalies, one needs to have psychic sight, or you will not be aware of what you are really seeing.
I also never mentioned ghosts - I said 'spirit' which encompasses much more than ghosts.
I could show you orb pictures but as I said if you do not see psychically, you will not see spirit.
Alisa is showing you what she views, it is her perspective from having psychic sight.
Thank you.
so now its an exclusive club.
ok
ok
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so now its an exclusive club.
ok
Looks like it, jonb.
This is as trivial as arguing over an ink blot, others will only see a mess of ink others will see everyday objects shaped within the mess of ink (wether theyre psychic or not, I didn't know that having an imagination was a qualification for being a psychic)... this resolves, helps to conclude and proves nothing imo.
my 1.1p
Some may be. Most are not, and have mundane explainations. Tons of info. on the net about them.
I'm more interested in the other ghost photos that are unlike orbs.
I'm more interested in the other ghost photos that are unlike orbs.
Hello.
Everyone should be allowed their own views and this topic is no different to others. To simply believe something without personal investigation is rather naive in my opinion. I urge all to seek for themselves.
If you believe that having psychic sight puts one in an exclusive club, then that is your opinion and your belief.
I have presented my findings on this topic as I view them.
This is Alisa's thread and I don't intend to hijack it.
Thanks
Everyone should be allowed their own views and this topic is no different to others. To simply believe something without personal investigation is rather naive in my opinion. I urge all to seek for themselves.
If you believe that having psychic sight puts one in an exclusive club, then that is your opinion and your belief.
I have presented my findings on this topic as I view them.
This is Alisa's thread and I don't intend to hijack it.
Thanks
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so now its an exclusive club.
ok
Some people have always believed that. It's so they can say, well you can't see it because you aren't 'gifted'. I think it's baloney.
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Hello.
Everyone should be allowed their own views and this topic is no different to others.
I wholeheartedy agree.
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To simply believe something without personal investigation is rather naive in my opinion.
I have done my own investigation and discovered how light works with air-born particles to lenses of cameras and not much conclusions on spirits being evident, must have been capturing in the wrong place, but then... oh yes thats right I'm not psychic, so how would I possibly understand or percieve such an anomoly
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I urge all to seek for themselves.
I couldn't agree more, everyone please investigate this phenomenon in much more detail viewing everything that goes on as you take photos and see what results you get.
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If you believe that having psychic sight puts one in an exclusive club, then that is your opinion and your belief.
Nope, but that was the impression you were giving
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I have presented my findings on this topic as I view them.
Well, your opinion, and thankyou for that.
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This is Alisa's thread and I don't intend to hijack it.
Thanks
Nor do I wish her thread wasted over bickering, thanks
I think that orbs are energy that is being given off by both spirits and people who are alive. Last year when I saw a Shadow person, I snapped a picture of it but only got a bunch of orbs hovering around in the spot where the shadow dude was supposed to be. So, I dont think orbs are the spirit itself.. but just its energy.
this is what i think:
if you make your eyes water, then squint them, then look towards the light-
Holy crap-ORBS!!
lol no, they are water and dust particles-IDENTICAL to the images on your photo. I think maybe you are paranoid. the good news is, you dont have to be freaked out about those pics.
if you make your eyes water, then squint them, then look towards the light-
Holy crap-ORBS!!
lol no, they are water and dust particles-IDENTICAL to the images on your photo. I think maybe you are paranoid. the good news is, you dont have to be freaked out about those pics.
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Can you post any of these?
I speak only for my own beliefs, but I strongly do believe that reality is multi-dimensional and teeming with life, so it is everywhere. I further believe that certain circumstances makes the activity more visible or stronger, which makes a place "active" or "haunted", though a level of activity is absolutely everywhere all the time. I also like to point out that if orbs of all sorts represent animal life, human life, and possibly some other form(s) of life, and billions of creatures have lived and died on this planet, that makes for a lot of orbs and/or spirit beings.
Why do you have these beliefs i.e. what facts are they based on?
I have a wind chime with little bells on, and every so often a spirit rings the bells, spirits must love it when it's windy because the bells are being rung all the time.
Alisa, great pics
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