heheh aw thanks.
im open to the existence of ghosts. but when people go on and on about orbs being ghosts when you know for a fact they arent, it just makes me wanna, pull my head off and kick it over a fence or somthing........
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QUOTE(jonb @ Sep 1 2006, 12:14 PM) [snapback]1331801[/snapback]
heheh aw thanks.
im open to the existence of ghosts. but when people go on and on about orbs being ghosts when you know for a fact they arent, it just makes me wanna, pull my head off and kick it over a fence or somthing........
Whoa kinky! Can I watch?
QUOTE(jonb @ Sep 1 2006, 01:14 PM) [snapback]1331801[/snapback]
heheh aw thanks.
im open to the existence of ghosts. but when people go on and on about orbs being ghosts when you know for a fact they arent, it just makes me wanna, pull my head off and kick it over a fence or somthing........
America really DOES have talent!!!!!
LOL ethyl and Onyxdk
If Jonb pulled his head off and kicked it, then someone caught it on camera it would be the best orb ever!
If Jonb pulled his head off and kicked it, then someone caught it on camera it would be the best orb ever!
QUOTE(jonb @ Aug 31 2006, 11:17 PM) [snapback]1330555[/snapback]
actually orbs arent caused by dust On the lens.
they are caused when dust is illuminated by the flash inches in front of the lens. it is a fault of modern digital camera designs where the flash is in such close proximity to the lens that it causes this. (they make them smaller and smaller)
i feel like i repeat myself every time i post here but noone seems to listen after the photos/videos i post
Yep, feel the same. I've left one other forum in despair/disgust after being accused of debunking the subject - ie producing and referencing 13 years of research based on empirical evidence that demonstrates and proves orb photos to be nothing than particulates.
Strange how the believers that dismiss any and all evidence that challenges their belief (and it is belief since they cannot prove their claims) aren't deemed to be guilty of debunking evidence and reality!
lol maybe i should think before posting eh.
i feel your pain shadow wolf, and the only reason i feel this way is because its such a widespread belief that these things are evidence of paranormal activity, and those who believe in them seem to ignore the strong evidence that debunks them.
it seems like its holding back investigations to find real evidence when everyone goes out on a damp/misty night and gets amazed at the amount of 'orbs' they find.
i think all small compact digital cameras should be banned from use on the investigations (hehe) and replaced with d-slrs using hotshoe mounted flash units "gee all the ghosts have gone"
i feel your pain shadow wolf, and the only reason i feel this way is because its such a widespread belief that these things are evidence of paranormal activity, and those who believe in them seem to ignore the strong evidence that debunks them.
it seems like its holding back investigations to find real evidence when everyone goes out on a damp/misty night and gets amazed at the amount of 'orbs' they find.
i think all small compact digital cameras should be banned from use on the investigations (hehe) and replaced with d-slrs using hotshoe mounted flash units "gee all the ghosts have gone"
Personally, only way I will accept orbs as evidence, is if I have other reads to suggest so. Such as temp change, emf reads, and when we take the pic, an orb is present, then will i accept it.
QUOTE(jonb @ Sep 2 2006, 03:14 AM) [snapback]1331801[/snapback]
heheh aw thanks.
im open to the existence of ghosts. but when people go on and on about orbs being ghosts when you know for a fact they arent, it just makes me wanna, pull my head off and kick it over a fence or somthing........
jonb, I've always liked you. Your sceptisicm doesn't make you unlikeable to me as a believer. However, I can get just as frustrated as you because some people aren't opening their minds more. We will just have to accepting that some people feel strongly at both polar ends on this topic and try to embrace it.
I thought of an analogy once that I think is apt. Suppose I was sitting under a tree meditating/praying and I asked for a sign that I am being heard. At this point I feel an overwhelming sensation of warmth and love. I open my eyes to see a feather fluttering gently into my lap. I am stunned, amazed, touched, and very happy. I am being heard and there is more than what we "see" and can validate through physical means.
I hold up the feather to a sceptic to show that there are miracles... and the sceptic shakes his head and tells me I am sitting under a tree in which a bird probably preened off a feather.
In the end, it's very much like "Shallow Hal"... reality is subjective. What to you may be a mundane seemingly explainable phenomenon, can to me be a miracle that adds immense meaning to my life. I have come to realize that experience/reality is really down to choice of interpretation.
I like the way you put that Alisa, I've tryed to explain the same concept before and it's very difficult. Skeptics all to often ignore the subjective and is why they only get half the picture. It's not all existing externally in concreate form. Look inwards as well for the experience and evidence.
Here is a link to photographs taken by a friend of mine this past saturday while helping at an Archaelogical dig at the Plank House in Marcus Hook,PA. The home was visited by Blackbeard the pirate who had a mistress there. A number of paranormal investigators have been doing investigations there.
http://picasaweb.google.com/NeuBon/ORBSPlankHouse31008
QUOTE (n3tuf @ May 12 2008, 10:06 PM) 
Here is a link to photographs taken by a friend of mine this past saturday while helping at an Archaelogical dig at the Plank House in Marcus Hook,PA. The home was visited by Blackbeard the pirate who had a mistress there. A number of paranormal investigators have been doing investigations there.
http://picasaweb.google.com/NeuBon/ORBSPlankHouse31008
http://picasaweb.google.com/NeuBon/ORBSPlankHouse31008
A ton of orbs - in a dirty old house where they appear to be ripping out walls right as the pics are being taken. Yeah, THAT won't make any dust or anything.
let orbs die...there not evidence of anything...
this topic really gets me thinking. When me and some class mates went on an exchange to the states, we took pictures everywhere we went, and all of the photos taken that have one of my friends in them, seem to have 3 or 4 orbs all circuling her... never anyone else and never in photos she wasnt captured in.
QUOTE (bankai26 @ May 12 2008, 11:15 PM)
let orbs die...there not evidence of anything...
sounds like somebody's never experienced one.
QUOTE (Alisa @ Mar 26 2006, 04:54 AM)
Can anyone provide evidence of orbs being dust/water particles. Your own personal evidence would be better than copying from somewhere else because then you can personally vouch for the evidence, if you know what I mean.
The burden of proof isnt in orb sceptic's hands; youd have to prove orbs are of paranormal nature. People often forget what paranormal means- simply, phenomena that cant be explained by scientific means. Orbs can be easily explained by dozens of very earthly explanations and you have to exhaustively rule out EVERY possible scientific explaination before even considering the more extraordinary ones. Virtually every "orb" can be explained by reflected light from out of focus air particulates. The proof you seek of "of orbs being dust/water particles" has been verified thousands and thousands and thousands of times. This is why PIs tend to be reluctant to consider them valid paranormal activity.
Honestly, I can't believe orbs are really spirits. There's way to much evidence against them and no real reason for a spirit to become an orb. Also, with your first point, if entities really did respond to invitations and intentions, why is it that we still don't have solid, concrete, indisputable proof? Also, now that you are looking for orbs may have changed the way you take pictures, such as your hands may subconciously shake more for instance and you don't realize it. I believe in spirits, but I just can't believe in orbs.
I am going to be as respectful as possible, but have you ever noticed that since the introduction of the digital camera this is when most of the "orb" activity began happening? I think it is very important for people who are going to make such bold statements about orbs being spirits to learn about the inner workings of a digital camera vs. an analogue camera, also study digital photography, and how a digital camera manipulates light. Until you post the same results from an analogue camera, I have a hard time accepting those shots as true "orb" activity. I know you want people to post with their knowledge, but I can't jam years worth of lighting and photography courses into a forum, I think it would be so helpful to your cause to take some courses on digital photography and lighting most importantly, I think with your eye, and that education behind you, you could be dangerous (in a good way)
I will try (as soon as I have a little free time) to replicate all the photos you have posted, and then post how I got them, what all of my settings were on the camera as well, and I will shoot with both my point and shoot digital, and my digital slr and an analogue
I will try (as soon as I have a little free time) to replicate all the photos you have posted, and then post how I got them, what all of my settings were on the camera as well, and I will shoot with both my point and shoot digital, and my digital slr and an analogue
Lets start with saying that I respect your opinion because I actually used to think the same as you about orbs even though I admittedly don't know much about orbs.
I don't want to be the one who says this but...I believe that orbs are lens flares. Mostly because of a picture I recently took through a door hole which showed a lens flare that looked like one of your orbs but in a distorted kinda way, which made me believe that these so called orbs are merely an illusion. I mean an orb can't be distorted so it must have been a lens flare right? I'm honestly terrible when it comes to explaining stuff but I hope at least one of you understood my point here.
If not, then I uploaded the picture I took. You can see the distorted orb. It looks like it's from inside the camera, therefore these cannot be orbs because they're inside the camera hence why I said LENS FLARE. Ok so, hopefully I made my point obvious here, lol.
I hope the attached image works..
I don't want to be the one who says this but...I believe that orbs are lens flares. Mostly because of a picture I recently took through a door hole which showed a lens flare that looked like one of your orbs but in a distorted kinda way, which made me believe that these so called orbs are merely an illusion. I mean an orb can't be distorted so it must have been a lens flare right? I'm honestly terrible when it comes to explaining stuff but I hope at least one of you understood my point here.
If not, then I uploaded the picture I took. You can see the distorted orb. It looks like it's from inside the camera, therefore these cannot be orbs because they're inside the camera hence why I said LENS FLARE. Ok so, hopefully I made my point obvious here, lol.
I hope the attached image works..
QUOTE (Mordfabrik @ May 13 2008, 06:12 PM)
Lets start with saying that I respect your opinion because I actually used to think the same as you about orbs even though I admittedly don't know much about orbs.
I don't want to be the one who says this but...I believe that orbs are lens flares. Mostly because of a picture I recently took through a door hole which showed a lens flare that looked like one of your orbs but in a distorted kinda way, which made me believe that these so called orbs are merely an illusion. I mean an orb can't be distorted so it must have been a lens flare right? I'm honestly terrible when it comes to explaining stuff but I hope at least one of you understood my point here. :mellow:
If not, then I uploaded the picture I took. You can see the distorted orb. It looks like it's from inside the camera, therefore these cannot be orbs because they're inside the camera hence why I said LENS FLARE. Ok so, hopefully I made my point obvious here, lol.
I hope the attached image works..
I don't want to be the one who says this but...I believe that orbs are lens flares. Mostly because of a picture I recently took through a door hole which showed a lens flare that looked like one of your orbs but in a distorted kinda way, which made me believe that these so called orbs are merely an illusion. I mean an orb can't be distorted so it must have been a lens flare right? I'm honestly terrible when it comes to explaining stuff but I hope at least one of you understood my point here. :mellow:
If not, then I uploaded the picture I took. You can see the distorted orb. It looks like it's from inside the camera, therefore these cannot be orbs because they're inside the camera hence why I said LENS FLARE. Ok so, hopefully I made my point obvious here, lol.
I hope the attached image works..
Thank you for sharing that picture, I understand your point completely and agree with it. Orbs are nothing more that lens flares, dust, etc., at least that's my opinion.
Orbs are not spirits. There is a natural phenomena that causes this, it's energy. Alot of electricians claims to see "orbs" coming from an open fuse box or near it. Orbs exist but they are not ghosts. A true paranormal "orb" emits it's own light & is not transparent. Before going out in the field with your digital camera it's important to check the weather to see the humidity levels. The majority of the things you see in pictures are dust, bugs or moisture in the air.
I work with electricians every day, and I've never known one who claimed to see orbs coming out of an open electrical panel.
QUOTE (Wallydra ;) igle @ May 19 2008, 11:32 AM)
I work with electricians every day, and I've never known one who claimed to see orbs coming out of an open electrical panel.
Ya no kidding. My ex is an electrician and he is very informed as to my stance on orbs. Never has mentioned it. Just to be sure, I will ask him.
However, I personally wouldn't EVER say "orbs are not spirits" just for the reason that we don't know this for 100% fact. As it stands now, I do not believe that orbs =ghost/spirits/anything paranormal, BUT I have hard time saying they are not spirits. Because that implies we know for a fact and I know most here will agree that there is not much in this field that is known as 100% fact.
QUOTE (LadyHay @ May 19 2008, 07:41 PM)
Ya no kidding. My ex is an electrician and he is very informed as to my stance on orbs. Never has mentioned it. Just to be sure, I will ask him.
However, I personally wouldn't EVER say "orbs are not spirits" just for the reason that we don't know this for 100% fact. As it stands now, I do not believe that orbs =ghost/spirits/anything paranormal, BUT I have hard time saying they are not spirits. Because that implies we know for a fact and I know most here will agree that there is not much in this field that is known as 100% fact.
However, I personally wouldn't EVER say "orbs are not spirits" just for the reason that we don't know this for 100% fact. As it stands now, I do not believe that orbs =ghost/spirits/anything paranormal, BUT I have hard time saying they are not spirits. Because that implies we know for a fact and I know most here will agree that there is not much in this field that is known as 100% fact.
Well said..JN
I don't know if orbs are spirits or not but since my dad was an amateur photographer and had a darkroom in the basement where he developed film, I saw many 'orbs' as a child. I've said before that we considered them mistakes.
Someone posted a link to what the different colors of orbs meant .... how could anyone write that up?
I'm a believer but some things just push my limits.
Someone posted a link to what the different colors of orbs meant .... how could anyone write that up?
I'm a believer but some things just push my limits.
Alisa, I really like your owl avatar. That's such a cool picture. With regards to orbs, because of legends like the will o' wisp, I do believe that SOME orbs may be spirit in nature, though I think most are dust particles, bugs, etc. and digital cameras specifically capture them too often to be credible. You have to really study their movements. Some erratic patterns, sudden movements, appearance or disappearing could be paranormal. You really have to study them, I guess.
"Orbs" can be easily produced by purposely taking pictures of a dusty area, that alone is enough to disprove anything paranormal.
As for claims of shadowy figures and/or ghost silhouettes in numerous photos posted here, I have yet to see one that wasn't a simple shadow or reflection. Its like looking at clouds, if you look long enough you'll start seeing shapes of elephants, dogs, buildings, really anything you want to see. But no matter how much it looks like something, its still just a cloud.
As for claims of shadowy figures and/or ghost silhouettes in numerous photos posted here, I have yet to see one that wasn't a simple shadow or reflection. Its like looking at clouds, if you look long enough you'll start seeing shapes of elephants, dogs, buildings, really anything you want to see. But no matter how much it looks like something, its still just a cloud.
QUOTE (xBananax @ May 19 2008, 02:06 PM)
"Orbs" can be easily produced by purposely taking pictures of a dusty area, that alone is enough to disprove anything paranormal.
As for claims of shadowy figures and/or ghost silhouettes in numerous photos posted here, I have yet to see one that wasn't a simple shadow or reflection. Its like looking at clouds, if you look long enough you'll start seeing shapes of elephants, dogs, buildings, really anything you want to see. But no matter how much it looks like something, its still just a cloud.
As for claims of shadowy figures and/or ghost silhouettes in numerous photos posted here, I have yet to see one that wasn't a simple shadow or reflection. Its like looking at clouds, if you look long enough you'll start seeing shapes of elephants, dogs, buildings, really anything you want to see. But no matter how much it looks like something, its still just a cloud.
I feel the same about everything you posted, except I have to say that reproducing "orbs" does not actually disprove anything paranormal. It only proves that you can reproduce them. Which helps us by proving that "orbs" can be other things than "paranormal" so it is still worthwhile.
QUOTE (Alisa @ Mar 26 2006, 05:51 AM)
I appreciate your approval, Frogfish, and I agree to disagree with you about spirits and ghosts. You sure jump on each new topic quickly. I thought you'd get here quick, but you surpassed my expectations.
Hello! I have pic with orbs on it. I tell You they are angels. We were preparing the room for a class of Himalaya Yoga Tradition.
I tell You the KEY of orbs: examine their inner structure. Is a dust particle so complicated??
Click to view attachment
QUOTE (Center of the World @ Jul 13 2008, 02:02 PM)
Hello! I have pic with orbs on it. I tell You they are angels. We were preparing the room for a class of Himalaya Yoga Tradition.
I tell You the KEY of orbs: examine their inner structure. Is a dust particle so complicated??
Click to view attachment
I tell You the KEY of orbs: examine their inner structure. Is a dust particle so complicated??
Click to view attachment
Yes, dust particles can be quite intricate.
You have many things in that room that are reflective also.
I don't disbelieve in spirits, but I do not believe orbs that are caught in photos to be spirits. Visually seen orbs, IMO, are different.
QUOTE (Alisa @ Mar 25 2006, 10:45 PM)
I strongly believe that orbs are spirits. I believe there is a huge difference between orbs and air particulate that shows up in photos. I will present the evidence that I have accumulated that leads me to believe that orbs are spirits. And as always, everyone is entitled to their own interpretation and opinions. I also suggest that anyone truly curious should attempt their own simple experimentation.
1. Looking through a life time of photos I have taken, I did find two or three photos with orbs in them out of the hundreds with no orbs. However, once I began taking photos with the sole intention of capturing orbs, they began appearing in virtually every photo I took, using the same camera I had used for two years previously without a single orb. For me, this was a strong piece of evidence that these entities were responding to my intention and invitation to photograph them.
2. The flipping photos below consist of two photos that I took sequentially. I was not trying to capture an orb moving, I only noticed orbs in both of them and then when viewing them together, realized it showed movement. Particularly notice the bright orb in the middle (that looks like it is smiling in my opinion) and how it moves into the eaves of the house and partially disappears. This to me is good evidence that my orbs are not dust or water. Also note by following certain orbs that they are moving in different directions (so no wind moving particulate).
Enlargements of the bright orb above:
I will gather more evidence that I have and arrange it for presentation under this topic, but this is a good start.
I also want to add that I cannot find the logic in the argument that is made for camera flashes somehow meaning the orbs that show up are not spirit orbs??? What is spirit material made that it does not require a flash? Is it reflective? Is it transparent? If it is a transparent ball that is often only visible by the reflected light of, say a flash, then perhaps that is why so many orbs show up with flashes.
And could it be that orbs, like spirits and ghosts, materialize and dematerialize and may be photographed at a moment of transition, or appearing in one photo and seconds later are not there? Perhaps they pop in and out of our dimension and also sometimes travel or float about while in either? I believe this is so.
Perhaps some orbs are very bright or colorful in full manifestation and don't require a flash or show up extremely bright with a flash. I have several such photos where I feel orbs are condensing their energy and shooting off either vertically or horizontally and they are virtually white in appearance due to their energy emission. And yet, I could not see these orbs with my naked eye at the time, so what does that mean about the nature of reality and visibility? We can't see xrays or infrared, but they are there and certain equipment can capture pictures of them.
1. Looking through a life time of photos I have taken, I did find two or three photos with orbs in them out of the hundreds with no orbs. However, once I began taking photos with the sole intention of capturing orbs, they began appearing in virtually every photo I took, using the same camera I had used for two years previously without a single orb. For me, this was a strong piece of evidence that these entities were responding to my intention and invitation to photograph them.
2. The flipping photos below consist of two photos that I took sequentially. I was not trying to capture an orb moving, I only noticed orbs in both of them and then when viewing them together, realized it showed movement. Particularly notice the bright orb in the middle (that looks like it is smiling in my opinion) and how it moves into the eaves of the house and partially disappears. This to me is good evidence that my orbs are not dust or water. Also note by following certain orbs that they are moving in different directions (so no wind moving particulate).
Enlargements of the bright orb above:
I will gather more evidence that I have and arrange it for presentation under this topic, but this is a good start.
I also want to add that I cannot find the logic in the argument that is made for camera flashes somehow meaning the orbs that show up are not spirit orbs??? What is spirit material made that it does not require a flash? Is it reflective? Is it transparent? If it is a transparent ball that is often only visible by the reflected light of, say a flash, then perhaps that is why so many orbs show up with flashes.
And could it be that orbs, like spirits and ghosts, materialize and dematerialize and may be photographed at a moment of transition, or appearing in one photo and seconds later are not there? Perhaps they pop in and out of our dimension and also sometimes travel or float about while in either? I believe this is so.
Perhaps some orbs are very bright or colorful in full manifestation and don't require a flash or show up extremely bright with a flash. I have several such photos where I feel orbs are condensing their energy and shooting off either vertically or horizontally and they are virtually white in appearance due to their energy emission. And yet, I could not see these orbs with my naked eye at the time, so what does that mean about the nature of reality and visibility? We can't see xrays or infrared, but they are there and certain equipment can capture pictures of them.
Oh wow i wanna say in your picture at the bottom here, the one on the left that it has a tail that has movement clearly looks like it's emitting it's own light....thats really interesting.
QUOTE (Center of the World @ Jul 13 2008, 04:02 PM)
Hello! I have pic with orbs on it. I tell You they are angels. We were preparing the room for a class of Himalaya Yoga Tradition.
I tell You the KEY of orbs: examine their inner structure. Is a dust particle so complicated??
Click to view attachment
I tell You the KEY of orbs: examine their inner structure. Is a dust particle so complicated??
Click to view attachment
Dust has its own structure like everything else, I suppose. How can we possibly compare a spiritual orb from a dust orb, when there is nothing to compare the two..
Spiritual Orb's use the frequency of light to travel thru..just something I observed..They use the full spectrum and this is usually why we really dont see them,
I had the occasion to see this in full force at the Haunted ,, it was more like a portal)
Recording studio I worked in It was once a church from the 1800-s built into a recording studio, everything
stayed the same except removal of the pews,and some sound proofing, some of you here
know my story some dont, When you see one of these Orbs, there is no question its not dust,
becuase you can see them with your naked eye. for they draw upon the energy of light,,.No camera needed, night or day, this haunting
involved many spirits that would come and go,,,ZEB
I had the occasion to see this in full force at the Haunted ,, it was more like a portal)
Recording studio I worked in It was once a church from the 1800-s built into a recording studio, everything
stayed the same except removal of the pews,and some sound proofing, some of you here
know my story some dont, When you see one of these Orbs, there is no question its not dust,
becuase you can see them with your naked eye. for they draw upon the energy of light,,.No camera needed, night or day, this haunting
involved many spirits that would come and go,,,ZEB
QUOTE (Alisa @ Mar 25 2006, 11:45 PM)
I strongly believe that orbs are spirits. I believe there is a huge difference between orbs and air particulate that shows up in photos. I will present the evidence that I have accumulated that leads me to believe that orbs are spirits. And as always, everyone is entitled to their own interpretation and opinions. I also suggest that anyone truly curious should attempt their own simple experimentation.
1. Looking through a life time of photos I have taken, I did find two or three photos with orbs in them out of the hundreds with no orbs. However, once I began taking photos with the sole intention of capturing orbs, they began appearing in virtually every photo I took, using the same camera I had used for two years previously without a single orb. For me, this was a strong piece of evidence that these entities were responding to my intention and invitation to photograph them.
2. The flipping photos below consist of two photos that I took sequentially. I was not trying to capture an orb moving, I only noticed orbs in both of them and then when viewing them together, realized it showed movement. Particularly notice the bright orb in the middle (that looks like it is smiling in my opinion) and how it moves into the eaves of the house and partially disappears. This to me is good evidence that my orbs are not dust or water. Also note by following certain orbs that they are moving in different directions (so no wind moving particulate).
Enlargements of the bright orb above:
I will gather more evidence that I have and arrange it for presentation under this topic, but this is a good start.
I also want to add that I cannot find the logic in the argument that is made for camera flashes somehow meaning the orbs that show up are not spirit orbs??? What is spirit material made that it does not require a flash? Is it reflective? Is it transparent? If it is a transparent ball that is often only visible by the reflected light of, say a flash, then perhaps that is why so many orbs show up with flashes.
And could it be that orbs, like spirits and ghosts, materialize and dematerialize and may be photographed at a moment of transition, or appearing in one photo and seconds later are not there? Perhaps they pop in and out of our dimension and also sometimes travel or float about while in either? I believe this is so.
Perhaps some orbs are very bright or colorful in full manifestation and don't require a flash or show up extremely bright with a flash. I have several such photos where I feel orbs are condensing their energy and shooting off either vertically or horizontally and they are virtually white in appearance due to their energy emission. And yet, I could not see these orbs with my naked eye at the time, so what does that mean about the nature of reality and visibility? We can't see xrays or infrared, but they are there and certain equipment can capture pictures of them.
1. Looking through a life time of photos I have taken, I did find two or three photos with orbs in them out of the hundreds with no orbs. However, once I began taking photos with the sole intention of capturing orbs, they began appearing in virtually every photo I took, using the same camera I had used for two years previously without a single orb. For me, this was a strong piece of evidence that these entities were responding to my intention and invitation to photograph them.
2. The flipping photos below consist of two photos that I took sequentially. I was not trying to capture an orb moving, I only noticed orbs in both of them and then when viewing them together, realized it showed movement. Particularly notice the bright orb in the middle (that looks like it is smiling in my opinion) and how it moves into the eaves of the house and partially disappears. This to me is good evidence that my orbs are not dust or water. Also note by following certain orbs that they are moving in different directions (so no wind moving particulate).
Enlargements of the bright orb above:
I will gather more evidence that I have and arrange it for presentation under this topic, but this is a good start.
I also want to add that I cannot find the logic in the argument that is made for camera flashes somehow meaning the orbs that show up are not spirit orbs??? What is spirit material made that it does not require a flash? Is it reflective? Is it transparent? If it is a transparent ball that is often only visible by the reflected light of, say a flash, then perhaps that is why so many orbs show up with flashes.
And could it be that orbs, like spirits and ghosts, materialize and dematerialize and may be photographed at a moment of transition, or appearing in one photo and seconds later are not there? Perhaps they pop in and out of our dimension and also sometimes travel or float about while in either? I believe this is so.
Perhaps some orbs are very bright or colorful in full manifestation and don't require a flash or show up extremely bright with a flash. I have several such photos where I feel orbs are condensing their energy and shooting off either vertically or horizontally and they are virtually white in appearance due to their energy emission. And yet, I could not see these orbs with my naked eye at the time, so what does that mean about the nature of reality and visibility? We can't see xrays or infrared, but they are there and certain equipment can capture pictures of them.
I dont think there is ANYONE on this forum that can say ORBS ARE NOT REAL case closed. I have had a few nice pics of them as well and as soon as i fighure how to get the photos to show up on the forum i will post them I dont believe that all orbs are real but some i think are. You are also valadating what i have said about having to be "tuned" in to capture ANYTHING be it picture or audio. I believe that in order to receieve anyhting from the spirits you must connect with them on a mental level. Please keep you study posted I for one are very interested in your findings.
QUOTE (everquesterinman @ Jul 20 2008, 09:45 PM)
I dont think there is ANYONE on this forum that can say ORBS ARE NOT REAL case closed. I have had a few nice pics of them as well and as soon as i fighure how to get the photos to show up on the forum i will post them I dont believe that all orbs are real but some i think are. You are also valadating what i have said about having to be "tuned" in to capture ANYTHING be it picture or audio. I believe that in order to receieve anyhting from the spirits you must connect with them on a mental level. Please keep you study posted I for one are very interested in your findings.
I don't think anyone said that without a doubt they are not real. I think maybe people have said that they doubt they are paranormal, because they have found so many other causes for these "orbs".
Who are you speaking to when you said, "You are also valadating what i have said about having to be "tuned" in to capture ANYTHING be it picture or audio." ?? Are you seriously inferring that you have to be "special" to be able to tell which are ghostly? I hope not. 'Cause that would make me giggle a bit.
I will always check in with orb stories because there is always a very small possibility that I am wrong, and they ARE ghostly or spirits etc. I have YET to see anything lucrative, however, that will even weaken my resolve. But still, I wait.
QUOTE (LadyHay @ Jul 21 2008, 01:44 AM)
I don't think anyone said that without a doubt they are not real. I think maybe people have said that they doubt they are paranormal, because they have found so many other causes for these "orbs".
Who are you speaking to when you said, "You are also valadating what i have said about having to be "tuned" in to capture ANYTHING be it picture or audio." ?? Are you seriously inferring that you have to be "special" to be able to tell which are ghostly? I hope not. 'Cause that would make me giggle a bit.
I will always check in with orb stories because there is always a very small possibility that I am wrong, and they ARE ghostly or spirits etc. I have YET to see anything lucrative, however, that will even weaken my resolve. But still, I wait.
Who are you speaking to when you said, "You are also valadating what i have said about having to be "tuned" in to capture ANYTHING be it picture or audio." ?? Are you seriously inferring that you have to be "special" to be able to tell which are ghostly? I hope not. 'Cause that would make me giggle a bit.
I will always check in with orb stories because there is always a very small possibility that I am wrong, and they ARE ghostly or spirits etc. I have YET to see anything lucrative, however, that will even weaken my resolve. But still, I wait.
I am speaking to EVERYONE when i say that i believe that you must be tuned in to see, speak, hear or interact in ANY way with spirits. I do however believe that EVERYONE has the ability to "tune in" kind of the same way "everyone has the ability to be a genius" but few lack the ability to apply themselves to acheieve it you know? I do also believe that some folks are born with these abilities...just the same as some folks are born with the ability to play and instrument. For example I play the piano very well and have since i was a young child, BUT there are composers that have wrote and played music at age 4 such as Amodous (not sure on the spelling). So does that make him special and not me? YES when it comes to music there was something that was in him that i dont and or never will have when it comes to playing the piano and composing. However I do believe that you can "fine tune" all abilities including the ability to see, speak and or communicate with spirits. Just my 2 cents.
QUOTE (ZEB @ Jul 15 2008, 10:28 PM)
Spiritual Orb's use the frequency of light to travel thru..just something I observed..They use the full spectrum and this is usually why we really dont see them,
I had the occasion to see this in full force at the Haunted ,, it was more like a portal)
Recording studio I worked in It was once a church from the 1800-s built into a recording studio, everything
stayed the same except removal of the pews,and some sound proofing, some of you here
know my story some dont, When you see one of these Orbs, there is no question its not dust,
becuase you can see them with your naked eye. for they draw upon the energy of light,,.No camera needed, night or day, this haunting
involved many spirits that would come and go,,,ZEB
I had the occasion to see this in full force at the Haunted ,, it was more like a portal)
Recording studio I worked in It was once a church from the 1800-s built into a recording studio, everything
stayed the same except removal of the pews,and some sound proofing, some of you here
know my story some dont, When you see one of these Orbs, there is no question its not dust,
becuase you can see them with your naked eye. for they draw upon the energy of light,,.No camera needed, night or day, this haunting
involved many spirits that would come and go,,,ZEB
Hey Zeb, long time not seeing you around...
Yea, I've witnessed an orb (what I would call a true orb) with my eyes. It was midway between the floor and ceiling directly in the corner. It was solid green, and it pulsated from small to larger back to small again. I sat there watching this thing for a long time till I finally got tired and went to bed.
That's what I look for in some of these pics, but I just don't see the resemblance. & I looked for everything or anything that could have caused that, and there was absolutely NOTHING that could have explained it.
It happened at a time when I was experiencing a lot of activity in my home as well.
ill have two posts for this... i have activity in the house an 2 out of the 4 times ive tried catching something on camera i was sucessful, it seems when i sense there is something around i will quickly take a few pictures, in both cases i caught something right away on the first shot, but after many photos afterwards, it seems the "orb" had gone somewhere, seemingly shy of camera. its like i suprise it, get a couple shots then its gone, in this photo is the brightest orb, i zoomed in on the orb an it appears to have a face also, just like your orb. *note my house is extremly dry, i keep it clean and dusted, my camera is new digital camera with a clean lens on front.
this one i took like 2 months ago
this one i took like 2 months ago
here is one i took last night, i felt it was a good time to catch something, so seeing the camera on the table i grabbed it an took a few pics, i caught it right away , bright and in the middle of the room, by second shot its less visible an seems to be heading out somewhere, by third shot its gone. and i literally took 15 shots afterwards they were clean with no orbs or anything , i wanted to be thorough so thats why i took so many afterwards. my camera is a canon powershot A720 with image stablizer, and a clean lens
heres other two photos of sequence, sorry i am having trouble with uploader, they also made me shrink them a bit i can submit a single larger one maybe if someone requests
*also i want to make a point for people to think about, why orbs are orbs, its simple really, think basic gravity, just as a drop of water will form an orb shape as it spills out of a bottle of water. if there is an energy in the middle of space in a room naturally it will form an orb shape right? thats why we see them as a round shape, hense Orb
*also i want to make a point for people to think about, why orbs are orbs, its simple really, think basic gravity, just as a drop of water will form an orb shape as it spills out of a bottle of water. if there is an energy in the middle of space in a room naturally it will form an orb shape right? thats why we see them as a round shape, hense Orb
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Jul 21 2008, 03:48 AM)
Hey Zeb, long time not seeing you around...
Yea, I've witnessed an orb (what I would call a true orb) with my eyes. It was midway between the floor and ceiling directly in the corner. It was solid green, and it pulsated from small to larger back to small again. I sat there watching this thing for a long time till I finally got tired and went to bed.
That's what I look for in some of these pics, but I just don't see the resemblance. & I looked for everything or anything that could have caused that, and there was absolutely NOTHING that could have explained it.
It happened at a time when I was experiencing a lot of activity in my home as well.
Yea, I've witnessed an orb (what I would call a true orb) with my eyes. It was midway between the floor and ceiling directly in the corner. It was solid green, and it pulsated from small to larger back to small again. I sat there watching this thing for a long time till I finally got tired and went to bed.
That's what I look for in some of these pics, but I just don't see the resemblance. & I looked for everything or anything that could have caused that, and there was absolutely NOTHING that could have explained it.
It happened at a time when I was experiencing a lot of activity in my home as well.
Hi ya Kid!!!! been a long time...no have not been here much ..some family issues..How are you?? send me a pm
and yes you are correct THE NAKED EYE, can see a real ORB as they are called now days, I will say this also,evps,You dont need
a recorder to hear them either,,I heard them sing...I heard them Growl, I've seem them lift things..throw things,,dangle things in mid air,
with witnesess,,etc,,,You dont need nothing but eyes and ears lol Zeb
QUOTE (twyliteskyz @ Jul 21 2008, 12:16 PM)
ill have two posts for this... i have activity in the house an 2 out of the 4 times ive tried catching something on camera i was sucessful, it seems when i sense there is something around i will quickly take a few pictures, in both cases i caught something right away on the first shot, but after many photos afterwards, it seems the "orb" had gone somewhere, seemingly shy of camera. its like i suprise it, get a couple shots then its gone, in this photo is the brightest orb, i zoomed in on the orb an it appears to have a face also, just like your orb. *note my house is extremly dry, i keep it clean and dusted, my camera is new digital camera with a clean lens on front.
this one i took like 2 months ago
this one i took like 2 months ago
You will never create a completely dust free environment. I don't also believe you can "track" the orbs, unless you can see it with your naked eye. So, its likely dust. It looks like dust too.
The face in your orb is likely caused by pareidolia.
QUOTE (twyliteskyz @ Jul 21 2008, 12:34 PM)
heres other two photos of sequence, sorry i am having trouble with uploader, they also made me shrink them a bit i can submit a single larger one maybe if someone requests
*also i want to make a point for people to think about, why orbs are orbs, its simple really, think basic gravity, just as a drop of water will form an orb shape as it spills out of a bottle of water. if there is an energy in the middle of space in a room naturally it will form an orb shape right? thats why we see them as a round shape, hense Orb
*also i want to make a point for people to think about, why orbs are orbs, its simple really, think basic gravity, just as a drop of water will form an orb shape as it spills out of a bottle of water. if there is an energy in the middle of space in a room naturally it will form an orb shape right? thats why we see them as a round shape, hense Orb
You don't give enough support to explain why it would "naturally" form an orb shape. Why not a long electric string? Why orb? Please explain. Thanks.
QUOTE (twyliteskyz @ Jul 21 2008, 02:16 PM)
ill have two posts for this... i have activity in the house an 2 out of the 4 times ive tried catching something on camera i was sucessful, it seems when i sense there is something around i will quickly take a few pictures, in both cases i caught something right away on the first shot, but after many photos afterwards, it seems the "orb" had gone somewhere, seemingly shy of camera. its like i suprise it, get a couple shots then its gone, in this photo is the brightest orb, i zoomed in on the orb an it appears to have a face also, just like your orb. *note my house is extremly dry, i keep it clean and dusted, my camera is new digital camera with a clean lens on front.
this one i took like 2 months ago
this one i took like 2 months ago
Dust is everywhere at all time - dusted or not.. we inhale it constantly. Just because we can't or don't see it doesn't mean it's not there.
I really don't think those are spirit orbs, but are dust orbs.
In my honest opinion, if it were a real spirit orb it would be there, regardless, if pic was taken or not. You wouldn't need to take a photo to prove its existence.. Also In my opinion, I'm thinking it would look different in its' structure, maybe more solid or with more color.. would look more dense..
Again, just my thoughts on the orb thing-
QUOTE (ZEB @ Jul 21 2008, 02:50 PM)
Hi ya Kid!!!! been a long time...no have not been here much ..some family issues..How are you?? send me a pm
and yes you are correct THE NAKED EYE, can see a real ORB as they are called now days, I will say this also,evps,You dont need
a recorder to hear them either,,I heard them sing...I heard them Growl, I've seem them lift things..throw things,,dangle things in mid air,
with witnesess,,etc,,,You dont need nothing but eyes and ears lol Zeb
and yes you are correct THE NAKED EYE, can see a real ORB as they are called now days, I will say this also,evps,You dont need
a recorder to hear them either,,I heard them sing...I heard them Growl, I've seem them lift things..throw things,,dangle things in mid air,
with witnesess,,etc,,,You dont need nothing but eyes and ears lol Zeb
Hope everything is ok with family!!
I agree, I'm starting to believe if they are there, then there wouldn't be any questions..
I know I've seen what I can only conclude as to being a real orb..
& again, it didn't look like those particles in these photos..
Yup! I remember your accounts very well..
Definitly dust. Dust moves in all directions. It could also be moisture or pollen in the air. I'm betting you used a compact digital camera to take the picture? Chances are if it was day time and you were not using a flash they would not show up. If it is a ghost why does it only show up at night with the flash? You should buy a professional camera and learn the basics of photography and physics before claiming to understand it.
The dust particle is out of focus. 315, I agree. Orbs is an widespread blunder done by novice Ghost-hunters. Honestly , I don’t think the OP was Ghost-hunting during these photographs.
I have a lil over 20 years in experience in ghosting-hunting, I can wisely say that those orbs are not spirits and do not use the flash of your digital. I am no professional and there is no experts in this field.
I have been invited into a home that was supposedly haunted in last Spring. She is an good friend of my wife, Lynn. All I could do was to be there to be as an witness, to take photographs, use a tape recorder and bring a bible and a book of common Prayer. I do not have all those other luxurious equipment because I never used them before, and I think they are useless-magnetic and electric fields are everywhere and oscillate in higher frequencies. Anyway, Lynn and I stayed over night. Her friend gabbed all night n’ half the morning to Lynn about her encounters in the kitchen and I walked all around the 2-story house with the bible in hand to find some kind of hint of an Ghost/Demon and have taken pictures(some with flash) of every room. The attic was quite small and it smelled like a old musky church…tho I do like the smell. I did capture some orbs.
Lynn finds me looking into the attic on a chair and tells me about her experiences. Our friend proclaims that she hears someone walking around the house, strange smells, and something is watching her. We both doubted that there was anything here and we went back down into the kitchen n’ I had shown the pictures of Orbs to our friend. She was excited and really believed that I had caught pictures of Ghosts her home. I had requested for Lynn, in this time, to explain that it was only dust, but she had a hard time explaining to her. Our friend was so convinced that it was Ghosts. In the living room, I was finding an passage in the Bible, a incantation , to incite whatever spirits in the dwelling, n’ I overheard Lynn was having a difficult time. I had to stop reading and prove it that it was indeed dust and particles. I instructed my friend to find me a old blanket, add some water and shake it. During the time that she was shaking the blanket, I was taking pictures with the strobe flash, and revealed the orbs to her. She had thought that I was the best,.. a expert and it felt good, but it was ‘nothing’. There were no ghosts, no EVps… n’ it was our friend’s lowest times of her life but that’s another story.
I have a lil over 20 years in experience in ghosting-hunting, I can wisely say that those orbs are not spirits and do not use the flash of your digital. I am no professional and there is no experts in this field.
I have been invited into a home that was supposedly haunted in last Spring. She is an good friend of my wife, Lynn. All I could do was to be there to be as an witness, to take photographs, use a tape recorder and bring a bible and a book of common Prayer. I do not have all those other luxurious equipment because I never used them before, and I think they are useless-magnetic and electric fields are everywhere and oscillate in higher frequencies. Anyway, Lynn and I stayed over night. Her friend gabbed all night n’ half the morning to Lynn about her encounters in the kitchen and I walked all around the 2-story house with the bible in hand to find some kind of hint of an Ghost/Demon and have taken pictures(some with flash) of every room. The attic was quite small and it smelled like a old musky church…tho I do like the smell. I did capture some orbs.
Lynn finds me looking into the attic on a chair and tells me about her experiences. Our friend proclaims that she hears someone walking around the house, strange smells, and something is watching her. We both doubted that there was anything here and we went back down into the kitchen n’ I had shown the pictures of Orbs to our friend. She was excited and really believed that I had caught pictures of Ghosts her home. I had requested for Lynn, in this time, to explain that it was only dust, but she had a hard time explaining to her. Our friend was so convinced that it was Ghosts. In the living room, I was finding an passage in the Bible, a incantation , to incite whatever spirits in the dwelling, n’ I overheard Lynn was having a difficult time. I had to stop reading and prove it that it was indeed dust and particles. I instructed my friend to find me a old blanket, add some water and shake it. During the time that she was shaking the blanket, I was taking pictures with the strobe flash, and revealed the orbs to her. She had thought that I was the best,.. a expert and it felt good, but it was ‘nothing’. There were no ghosts, no EVps… n’ it was our friend’s lowest times of her life but that’s another story.
Oh no...the orbs are back. Good grief.
Orbs never leave.
I know. So sad.
ok ok.. sad & it's just plain over rated.. the whole ORB thing.. Gosh... it's like this..if you've seen ONE you've seen them all. I guess-
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