hahaha i wouldnt call me a pro, i still cant take good photos, just know a lot about it

i do have an explanation for the orbs that appear to be shooting upwards, although somone else on the forum posted an excellent example of one he made himself with rain with which he explained a similar reason for them.

The rain falling to a humans eye would be seen as streaks of lines falling, but the camera & flash freezes this movement, usually producing dots (in this case some consider them orbs)
Usually a flash from a camera would be pretty instant, with no or very little extra light being produced after the initial burst.
depending on the camera, battery life and other factors your flash might have been producing light after the initial flash, which would have caused somthing going as fast as a raindrop to be lit up as it still falls, which would make the 'tail' of the anomoly. so what actually looks like it is shooting upwards, is actually falling.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/galle...album=11&pos=18

this is the photo i meant, although it was snow
its a little harder to explain your photo as shutter/flash synchronisiation because it looks to be taken at night, unless there was a strongish light source other than the flash

Hey, that article you posted is pretty interesting.



Sounds to me like nature at it's best. This is a natural occurance. If you are seeing visually orbs glowing in different colors, then you might want to do research on " Ball lightning"

Anatomy of a Lightning Ball

An aerial wonder, pondered for ages, no longer seems so ghostly

By:Peter Weiss

Fiery blasts: QuickTime video clips.

Not many people get to see ball lightning, but those who do never forget it. Imagine a glowing orb suddenly materializing in front of you, possibly sizzling or exuding a bluish mist and an acrid smell. The globe may be larger than a beach ball and dart through the air, perhaps hovering occasionally as if considering its next move. The ball may also roll or bounce along the ground, climb utility poles, and skitter along power lines. As it travels, the fiery sphere may destroy electrical equipment, ignite fires, and even singe animals or people.


Here is a source..... well, what the heck, have a few.....
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s520317.htm

http://www.amasci.com/tesla/ballgtn.html

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20020209/bob8.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/10/2/6/1

http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/bl.html

http://www.tbns.net/mediapoet/tech19b.htm

Here's much more links to this:
http://dmoz.org/Science/Earth_Sciences/Met...Ball_Lightning/

I agree 100% JB; the trails/streaks are simply caused by the flash output and shutter speed being asynchronous (I've got another article on that somewhere...)

Actually this is more pronounced at night, most people taking these shots will have their cameras on auto settings, the camera is going to be selecting a longer shutter speed; so the period of fast flash burst but slow light falloff will illuminate a falling (or other moving) particulate while the shutter is still open - so longer trails/streaks.

Rain + Streak orbs debunkedddd
MMMKAY here we go, as its raining right now i went and did a little test to show how it shows up, with 2 cameras to show how it is picked up with a compact, and the 2nd camera to show the camera taking the photo as it takes the photo... ... take a look

Photo of the rain as seen by a compact with flash on :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/dea...mit/rainey2.jpg

Oh look a streaky one with a tail got in there, spirit? no

take a look at the photo of the camera as it takes the photo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/deathvomit/rainey.jpg

As you can see the droplets of rain are being illuminated pretty well by that bright flash, and are considerably smaller than they are in 1st photo for obvious reasons (distance from lens)

as for the tail i can say for certain that flash units have a fadeout time even though it is tiny and by the looks of it certain size/speed objects can capture this movement,

I know a lot of you dont need to be told that this is fact but hey this topic is proof some do.
ill probably try some dust ones too

Great post Jonb, however, are they going to listen and believe in what you are trying to confirm? No, they will keep on believing that ghosts are orbs in no matter on how countless of times that you explain it to them. It is sad actually, and these kind of beliefs only makes it cloudy for the future of believers of the Supernatural, or simply put, they are bad mentors.

thanks primordial, and yeah i agree.
its a shame because although you wouldnt think it, im genuinely interested in ghost research.
im just saddened and amazed that all there seems to be are these 'orbs' everywhere, and many believing such a tiny obviously non paranormal anomoly could fool so many people.
if i become a spirit i sure as hell hope i dont become some round dot the size of dust!

For the photo buffs, is the possibility of the chemicals causing this during development worth considering, or does this just not happen (look up to post 46 for details - chemical reaction and dissapation comment.)

Are the rain orbs a similar camera trick to the Roswell Rods?

not sure if developing could cause them, unless you spilt a blob of stuff on them!
these seen to occur more often in digital cameras too

and yeh i wouldnt be suprised if the rods are caused by slow camera speeds as an insect flys in front. until we see high speed footage of them

We need a "the best Orb picture" thread....

Opps, might have been jumping the gun. The Rods have been proven fake. A guy went and stood in a big patch of active insect, set the shutter speeds and lighting levels as advised to capture "Rods" and hey presto, all the insects became rods when developed. Hundreds of them, producing Rods on demand is quite simple it seems.

Here is one link, there is a thread on them in here with better information. Much better site than the one I provided, although, I thought it was pretty explainitory. Real easy to take "Rod" movies. You can do it with a webcam even

Rods Explained

It was something "like spilling a blob' on them that I was getting at, during developing, the film goes into a liquid right? When liquid chemicals meet, chemicals tend to disapte in a circular fashion. Wondering if a blob could attach or settle on the paper causing this circular pattern during developing, the result would be round, and in some cases, could tint, depending one the situation at the time. Just wondering if this is a possiblity.
Of course if one uses a printer, this theory is straight out the window. I honestly think there is a very boring explaination of these things. The light spectrum is the next theory I plan to consider.

I like to work on the process of elimination. Once all possibilities are eliminated, what remains, however improbable, must be true.

I was wondering if anybody has had a good look through old albums to see if they have unitentionally captured any orbs as well.

Cool house you got there....

This is the best evidence I have seen in favour of orbs being photographic anomalies. It was very, very clever of you to think of taking a photo of yourself taking a photo to show what the camera flash is showing at the same time as capturing the anomaly. So clever!



I look very forward to seeing the dust ones!

Also, have a look at the Roswell rods evidence and how they have been debunked. Very interesting information on photgraphic anomolies. I started to fall for it myself!! I finally caught on when I was trying to set a cam up to capture them, while looking for the insructions, I spotted and read the explaination. The explaination is irrefutable. Rods get photgraphed on demand. Even shows bugs 'morphing' into Rods.

Too all in here, Alisa and I have started a Poll over in the Crypto section about spiritual photography.


Here

Have a vote

thanks elisa glad to hear a true beleiver say that!

and great site psyche, i think you should post a new topic for that,under ufo's.

i saw stuff on tv when i was a bit younger about rods and thought wow they have to be aliens, but thinking about them later its pretty clear that its down to cameras. even though they do look pretty cool

i think developing labs will always use a machine unless its b+w photography or somthing special (of if you do it yourself)
and the negatives tend to be in a sortof box filled with the fixer stuff, and photos tend to be bathed in the developing liquid then dried vertically.

ive had negatives with tiny bits of dust on the machine didnt get rid of, which then showed up on the actual photo which was annoying, could be a reason for some anomolys maybe?

Another thing that can creat the streaks is the movement of the camera. I mean, if you do not have a tripod and take the pic, when you press the button, you can make a movement on the cam, in this case, move it down a bit.

When taking night shots, the flash timing and the capture timing differs, this can easily creat streaks on the rain orbs and even dust. U can see streaks on you camera too!

I think orbs do exist but I think that they are preety hard to cap or see. Anyway, I still respects Alisa thoughts and beliefs.

Well put.... I agree...... it's very frustrating when all you want to know is the truth...... with definate evidence.

Ahh, but that is the mystery of it Makes life interesting. Might I suggest a good look at how the Rods were debunked, it will give some fascinating, if not at the same time disheartening, viewpoints and facts about photography and the effects of it.

I really thought Rods were a new air creatures . I mean fair go, there was photgraphs vidoes all manners of evidence, and the site said it is easy, go out and do it yourself. Also, a lot of old photgraphs showed Rods, going back through photgraph and video archives, hundreds of Rods had been captured on film. It was only when I tried to capture one myself, and looked up intsructions that I was disheartened and had a sharp learning curve on basic photography. Very enlightening. And humbling at the same time.

I see your point. I am impressed that you were so keen to try to experiment for yourself.

When I first found out about rods, it was before my "metaphysical awakening" (which was 2 years ago, before which, I was a skeptic hoping that something would come along and change my mind that there was more to life than what science alone could offer). I thought rods might be just the thing to prove there was something else that existed outside of the ordinary. Then I read a debunker site where a woman showed fluttering paper that looked just like a rod and my hopes were dashed. Good ole debunkers. Since then I have seen rods debunked as (more probable) insects.

If rods in general are insect blur, and not an intentional paper flutter trick, then before I knew about insect blur, I could have still legitimately believed in rods. My point is that just because a phenomena can be fabricated does not without doubt invalidate the phenomena. For example, just because someone can fake a picture of Nessie, or of a UFO, does not mean that there are no genuine photos of these (in my opinion, that is).

Just food for thought...

I don't know if I totally believe in orbs or not. Here is the explanation on why orbs are created with digital cameras.
http://ghostgadgets.com/_knowledge/orbs.html

Now getting that out of the way. I must say that I have seen on many investigations that when I take a photo of a place and then tell the ghosts that I want to take a picture of them, I get lots of looking dust particle orbs in the next photo. Same place, only maybe at the most a half minute apart. This has happened to me on numerous occasions. Here's an example . .. .
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I do have a pic of a blue orb that I do believe is a genuine orb. I also have orbs on video from a investigation where it was too cold for bugs so I know that it's not a bug.

At any rate, personally I don't know what to believe. . . I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and see where it leads me . ..

Your experience seems similar to mine in that I have found a change in the number of orbs before asking for spirits to pose and the number after. Before I invited spirits to appear in my photos I had only a few examples of very faint orbs in about 1/100 photos I had taken. After I invited spirits to appear, I rarely had a photo without orbs. When I ask specifically for something special, I often get an even more spectacular showing.

I appreciate that you have experimented with individual instances having no orbs then asking for them. Great idea. Thanks a lot for your input and example photos.

What do you say when you ask the orbs to appear? I might actually try it myself and see if there is any luck lol. I mean, it will definitely be a proof to me if orbs appeared after I asked them to.

I just say (not without some embarrassment if anyone is around to hear me, mind you ), "Would anyone like their photo taken?" "I would really appreciate anyone that would like to be seen to show up for my photo, please." Something along these lines. Try to be as sincere as possible. When I am in a fantastic mood, really excited and open to the spirits, with my fear of the unknown well at bay, I capture the best photos. I send out a feeling of my fondness for them (fully believing in their existence and consciousness as I do) thinking all the while how grateful I am.

I really hope you do give it a try. I can't imagine now if I had not one day (not long ago) picked up my camera and thought, hey, I'm just going to ask any spirits if they would please appear for my photos and then followed through. It has been one of the best adventures I've ever had.

Oh okay, cheers. I will give it a try when I am in the right mood and no one esle is around, just in case they hear me and think I am talking to myself haha. I do hope they will appear, it will be such an experience. ( I'll let you know how I get on.)

Hi Everyone,
My name is Chris, and I have studied orb phenomena in detail at a very active location for the last 18 months. By choosing one area, it has allowed me to study any kind of re-occuring patterns in orbs and allied phenomena.
I have written an in-depth article on this subject which can be viewed at:
THE SECRET LIFE OF ORBS
I would recommend that you read it, for the sake of repeating myself here.
I have read through the threads, and there has been lots of pictures depicting false orb anamolies which I would agree to be `false orbs`, but not too many arguments that actually support them.
The website incidentally, has lots of video clips representing paranormal activity, and sure enough there are orbs a`plenty. I have prepared a video follow up which shows what I consider to be the `real Mc Coy`, and these can be viewed at:
Orb Video

It`s good to be sceptical, but to close yourself down completely from accepting the possibility that they might actually be real - despite dust etc, is not very enlightening.

Anyway, thanks for reading these scribblings! :-)

Chris

Webmaster: Haunted Earth UK

Thanks for joining the discussion, Chris! I have seen your site and read your articles before and was relieved to find detailed information on orbs from someone so experienced in paranormal investigations.



Wow, I thought that footage was amazing! Orbs look different on video to photographs it seems. In photos they look so colorful while in the videos I have seen they look like white light.

I am also intrigued with your ability to create orbs through meditation. Can you see the orbs with your eyes during this process, or only via the camera?

I am going to continue exploring your site and view the pics and videos. Thank you very much for your valuable input on this topic!

Well, I must be taking pictures in a lot of haunted places because I get a lot of orbs and crazy glowing things. I've never thought any of them were anything paranormal.

Can you post any of these?

I speak only for my own beliefs, but I strongly do believe that reality is multi-dimensional and teeming with life, so it is everywhere. I further believe that certain circumstances makes the activity more visible or stronger, which makes a place "active" or "haunted", though a level of activity is absolutely everywhere all the time. I also like to point out that if orbs of all sorts represent animal life, human life, and possibly some other form(s) of life, and billions of creatures have lived and died on this planet, that makes for a lot of orbs and/or spirit beings.

While not all anomalies on film are going to be of a paranormal nature, I feel there is an erroneous belief that paranormal events need to be rare and spectacular to exist, or that it takes someone "special" to capture, see or interact with the paranormal. I think if you desire to understand the spiritual, and you seek it, you will find it rather easily.

Nothing mysterious or meaningful here, the two sets of images are being recorded using different wavelengths of light - visible and invisible to the naked eye. Why is is necessary to shoot all of these 'psychic' or 'ghost-hunting' videos using night-shoot mode with its IR illumination?

With all respect to Chris and his team, the linked article and associated evidence no more prove 'real orbs' than others on this thread who explain orbs as mundane. BTW this is not 'debunking' as some have referred to here - rational and objective analysis based on evidence amassed over a decade or more is not debunking.

Hi Shadow Wolf,
I`m not sure what you are saying here, so please don`t think I am being sarcastic when I say that we use IR illumination simply because that without it, we wouldn`t actually record anything other than darkness. Thermal Imaging will be our next purchase to help add more information to our observations.
I can`t actually agree that the video evidence is mundane, nor is it easily explainable. The first video clip illustrates that point quite well. It all rather depends on your own personal views, and if you are sceptical, you would rather prefer to be there when it was recorded to satisfy that scepticism. It`s good to be sceptical, I am hoping that through further research I may alleviate some of that doubt.
It`s interesting, I have seen orbs explained purely as a form of ball lightning, aliens, ufo`s, or blaming the American government on the pretext that orbs are part of some secret research project. The usual suspects are always, dust, insects, fibre, rain, humidity, forgery, or dust inside the lens. We aren`t purely an orb research group, but orbs have a commonality that needs to be addressed without finding that some other `logical` explanation will do.
Apart from the `orbs`, we have recorded some very good EVP, which unlike some that I have heard, is actually audiably clear. However, I can also respect the sceptic viewpoint that unless the `hearer` was there at the time it too could be either artificially created, or was caused through some other explainable reason. A bit of a catch 22 situation perhaps?
Anyway, I am happy with what we have thus so far discovered, and fingers crossed, we might continue to make new discoveries or observations.

Chris

Thx, Chris

I should emphaise that I am certainly not skeptical to the possibility of spirit (after 40+ years of many and varied paranormal experiences I'm no skeptic!); but I am skeptical to the quantity of data that is being misinterpreted as evidence. In 14 years I have taken in excess of 50,000 analog and digital images trying to capture or replicate these type of orb images since they first came to prominence in the UK in association with crop circles in 1993. Out of those 50,000 images I've ended up with around 20 that are not mundane, and which warrant more study - whats that @ 0.04%? The most anomalous images I ever recorded did come when I'd decided there was nothing to the mystery; but the Cosmic Joker effect didn't produce orb images to answer my 'opinion'.

Thx for confirming my interpretation of why you (and others) use night-shot mode and IR illumination; although this still raises more questions than answers. Why does 'spirit' - or whatever is being captured on such footage - only exist or emit in IR wavelengths(IR isn't the same as heat, so I'm not sure TI will necessarily correlate)? To correlate the same 'orb' between video and still you'd need to be using either IR film or a modified digicam capable of capturing near IR ("NIR") - the vast majority of digital cameras deliberately filter-out NIR. A good reference site is here - one day I'll get round to really playing with this digital IR.

I would agree that not all such images are the effects of particulates, but equally not all orbs are spirit; I'd estimate that 1% or less of images truly depict something anomalous or paranormal - but these are the 1% that warrant the further study.

BrianJ

Hey, loving that post. You have written great points. Very interesting.

Thanks a lot, Bubs.

It has been fascinating to me to read the input from experts such as you guys, Shadow Wolf and Chris. With the tens of thousands of photos you have taken, and the 10+ years of experience with studying the paranormal, I just want to ask you Shadow Wolf, how do you determine the difference between an orb and particulate?

What I mean is what is your reasoning to think that only 4% of your photos are possible true spirit orbs. For example, I reason that the orbs I have captured are orbs because of the strong coincidence that they begin appearing when I asked any entities to appear for my photos. Also because they move in divergent directions which I feel is depicted in a handful of incidents where I took consecutive photos that show movement. Because I see faces in them. Because they have smiled at me before. Because I received the information that they are souls while I was in an altered state of consiousness. It's not proof to others, but it is the reason I believe as I do and I just wonder what your reasons are because I am genuinely interested.

Oh, and here is a very tiny orb, that I enlarged and strongly contrasted, that I know was smiling at me...



And one of my first orb captures, who also smiled...



And another amongst the first orbs (maybe smiling because I would say the classic phrase "Smile" before snapping the photo back when I began my adventure)...

i can say for definate the first video on the site posted by haunted-earth is a spidersweb, with either an insect or a glob of stuff stuck on it,
not a full spiders web but what looks like a single strand..
if you look at the video again you can see a faint line on the top and the bottom of the main bit, would also explain why when he walks toward it it goes past him.

any video shot with night vision or any kind of direct light source will no doubt reflect anything in front of the lens like this, insects, some dust etc.

what should be used instead of this type of illumination is, if it exists that is.. like an infra red lightbulb or a way to light up a room completely, without it being directly mounted on the camera.. if not that, then an external source of ir light, mounted away from the lens, like how the external flashguns on slr cameras are..

also when using photography to take spirit photos, Doooonnnnttttttttttt use a small compact camera, because they all suffer the same problem, the flash being wayy to close to the lens, creating direct reflections from dust bugs etc.

Use a digital slr (expensive but worth it) or a d-slr type of camera. And buy a flashgun, so that the flash will sit way above the camera, and because of the size of most slr lens' and the angle of the flash you shouldnt get so much dammn orb rubbish.

try it, then wonder why you dont get orbs anymore.

would you expect to see these anomolys on professional photos? say you hired a photographer for a wedding you wouldnt accept these things on the photos, because they are using quality equipment, not some compact digi camera.

Hi Brian,

The whole problem with orbs isn`t so much the `orb`, but how individuals assess and document their own experiments, and under what conditions they carried out these investigations.
Having scanned the web, there are many who say that the majority of `orb` occurances are rationally explained against the smaller percentage of those they regard to be genuine.
I`m sure nobody uses a time honoured scientific criteria, and that everyone`s estimations must therefore vary.
The question to those that have carried out their own evaluation is simply this. What would you define as an orb, and what wouldn`t you?
I would suggest that the approach is more subjective rather than objective with many investigators throughout the world.
Alisa has raised a similar concern, as I feel many choose from their own personal beliefs as to what they would personally define as an orb.
That isn`t a criticism but more of concern as everybody I speak to seem to have their own rules. I`m not suggesting that you perform in this way as I am certain that after so many years you must have a firm guide to work to.
With regard to thermal imaging and spiritual activity. From my own experiences of using laser thermometers into active spots, there is often a sharp drop in room temperature. There has been one occasion where the temperature went up, but I suspect other reasons for this. The T.I can translate that colder air into a visual colour scan that will show the exact parameters of this anomaly, and thus corroborating the orb as possibly genuine.
Are you still active on investigations?

Chris

Well JonB,

Thanks for your observations, and your opinion. I hadn`t thought of a spiders web with something stuck to it. That`s really quite amazing. How does the web manage to flash in and out of view, and actually move on it`s own accord?
We now use detached IR lights which run from a box separate to the cameras and this as you say does fully illuminate the rooms we film in. But do you know what? We still keep getting this `orb rubbish` on camera.
You should come along sometime. I`m pretty certain that the view in real life is quite different.

Chris

Thats interesting. I like the link too.
If possible, please, post your blue orb, I would love to see it.
Cya!

oh look, a horse with an orb

I don't know if you are poking fun about this orb or not, but I love this photo! When I looked at the enlargement, I saw features within the orb that suggested a colt or a tall thin dog.

Did you take this photo?

It's very frequent in develpoment that you'll get these circular patterns in errors. Purple or brown stains on the negative are usually caused by particles of developer that have precipitated onto the film base or emulsion during development. This error is caused by inadequate mixing of the developer solution during preparation, leaving a substantial amount of undissolved chemical. These can sometimes be defined as orbs at first glance. It's quite annoying when looking for something that could be defined as an orb them to have it be a developmental problem.

yes, i took it. but I don't believe in orbs - spirits

Chris,
I don't think anyone is "closing themselves down", but I believe most of us once believe in orbs and have done enough research to have our own opinions. If you say that we should except the possibilities they do exist, then you need to except the possibilities they do not exist. Open minded-ness also means to except the logical aspect that they are not real.

I have spent nearly $14,000 USD in equipment to experiment on paranormal researching.

Explain this then, how come none of my 3 EMF meters even glitch or spike? How come no cold or hot spots. What then? Are EMF meters not good enough anymore all of the sudden?

In the first paragraph, you just basically debunked yourself. IF, you are using IR, then the process in which the device inside IR is actually making orbs, proving that orbs are not real. If they were real orbs, then they should produce their own light source for anomalies. The device inside the IR devices that produces these orbs is called the "PHOTOCATHODE".

Also, regarding you saying you will be buying thermal imaging equipment, some of our UM members already utiize them. Cheap ones are $10,000.... but they are cheap pieces of crap..... good ones that really work good range around $17,000.00 - $20,000.00 USD.



Regarding EVP's, they must be put through a noise filter to confirm weather the hertz is above or below 300. That determines the intensity and range of the source of noise.

Here's a free download: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Here's an article...well thread I pulled up to read.... might help....
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...topic=60506&hl=

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...topic=58256&hl=

My equipment:
Bought all the gear:

*-I'm friends with a few Lead Paranoral Investigators, learned all that I can, know the basics.
*-Bought another car just for this and to travel elsewhere to go ghost hunting. Lexus ES300
* -New bike and bike rack to go venture to places not accessible by car and too far to walk, plus no civilization nearby.
* -I also have an endless amount of camping gear plus cookers and holding 12 people at a time is neccessary.
* 9 Motorola Walk about walkie talkies with 8-10 range each for larger groups to cover massive areas in teams
*Garmin-eTrex Legend handheld GPS unit with Road map. I can find a penny I buried in the woods from last year if i save the cordinates and also shows me the quickest route to it. Good enough for GeoCashing.
* -Digital camera 4.0 megapixels with digital video recording capabilities and two 512mb memory cards. I can do plenty of 10 minute clips with audio and can display everything from my camera directly to any TV screen, VCR or Computer.
*-35mm Nikon camera-don't know the model off top of my head, I'm at work. So I can provide any negatives anmd cannot be photoshopped.
*-Q-beams- incase there is movement, I can momentarily flood the area with 1 million candle light power
*-red lense 72 hour LED flashlites- so to stay at a low profile, does not create a glare, and doesn't effect nor is capture by Night Vision, which is too sensitive to white light
*- NVD ( night vision devices ) optics, motion sensing security cameras with night vision, and daytime w/ auto adjustment.
*-IR beams- to broadon my range of night vision devices, and when strobe, fast movement object can be detected better too. To the naked eye, it is invisible, but record in NV mode, and use any house hold remote to it, and you will notice that your TV remote works as a flashlite on the display screen.
* -EMF meter by Professional equipment
* -EMF meter by AlphaLab Trifield Natural EM Meter
*-Digital Voice Recorder for EVPs
*-Microwave meter
* - Cooper-Atkins Multi Probe Humidity and Temperature Tester- testing humidity is good to prevent taking pictures of orbs that are nothing more than water droplets.

great post nme glad to see more people who know their stuff.

exactly right about how orbs if they are spiritual energy they should produce their own light source, and not need ir or a flash unit for them to show up.
they are after all supposed to be ghosts

why would they only appear centimetres from the lens of the camera?

you need a manual focus camcorder, and when you spot what you think to be an orb, focus on the closest point possible, and see what it really is

Ehehe, I posted something like this in this thread before.

Hi NME

I`m sorry but I think I have upset you, this was not intentional. Regarding EMF meters, I have never held great store by them. They have a habit of picking up normal power sources - hidden wires etc. However, we have the use of them for those that feel they need it.
I`m very impressed with your array of equipment, and do not for one moment doubt your commitment to paranormal research.
However, I will stand by what I say because this is what I have experienced and the info posted on the website is as a result of it.
I don`t accept every picture of orbs that I see as `orbs`. Had one sent today with thousands of them in the sky. Unfortunately there was a huge log fire burning in the background, this created smuts, and smuts created orbs.
Can`t agree that IR cameras artificially create orbs persae. Infra Red can create orbs as in dust, fibre etc, but equally real orbs can be captured on these devices.
Having tons of equipment doesn`t make your detection of this phenomena any better than those that don`t. It`s how you use and interpret the data.
I can through a digital camera create orbs, balls of orange light, and clouds of dark mist. I do this by meditating and chanelling. Okay, I appreciate that this is hard to believe but I can do it and photograph it too. Check out my conservatory pictures on the website. There are loads there, and all created by me. No cheap gimmicks but purely through the energy of thought. If these pics are fakes or easily explainable please tell me.
Here is the link.
ORBS I HAVE GENERATED

I am I hasten to add a medium. I can see orbs through natural sight as lumps of grey `ether`, and I photograph what I see. I can even see the outlines of people in this stuff, and I can communicate with these entities. I can walk into a room and know where they are, and I can `feel` them. I use this information together with photo`s or video to validate them. I also pick up hot and cold spots, and within them there is always activity.
If you haven`t that gift, I understand that much of what I do is unbelievable, but that`s the way it is. I am not religious, nor have I had mental traumas. I spent 28 years as a cop, and I can be more critical of what I do more so than anyone can to me.
Neither am I a fool or deluded. I actually live in a very active house, and see activity around me most of the time. In my house there is a little girl, a cat, a dog, and a lady that visits in spirit. I have had many other mediums brought `blind` to the house who have all arrived at the same conclusions as me. Are we all deluded?
There are umpteen `scientific` links on the web that all debunk orbs in some form or another. Yet these authoritive sites actually contradict themselves on occasions. To reiterate, yes I know that orbs can be attributed to natural phenomena, but many others can`t.

Chris

Chris

take those photos again without flash. tadaa no more orbs

this is somthing i posted on another section, when you take your photos again and you get orbs, look over the top of the camera so you get a view similar to this, (might be hard during meditation..)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/dea...it/DSC_0476.jpg

if you see stuff being lit up like that then there is your answer

Hi JonB,
Having seen the dust in your picture I think a good old fashioned carpet cleaner might be your answer! lol

Chris

I believe that most orbs captured on film are spirits/entities (aside from fingers in front of camera, purposeful dust, some drops of rain, insects, etc.). I have had limited, but definite communication with some of the spirits that have shown themselves in orb form in my photos. So I have to give Chris a bit of back up.

Chris impresses me as very credible on many levels. I think the fact that he is a medium, as well as the fact that he was a cop, and that he also pursues and considers the scientific side of the orb phenomenon (via all of his equipment and analysis) is an intriguing balance that lends him lots of credibility. He puts his material out there for scrutiny and for anyone else to learn from and enjoy. He seems to charge no money and is coming from an angle of personal interest.

I admittedly cannot argue about the cameras and related quipment, as it is well out of my area of interest. But I appreciate the opinions from those of you in the know. Jonb's experiment showing the rain lit up really did challenge my beliefs in some of my "rocket" orb photos, and I have to give him that credit. I still think his photo it is an important piece of evidence to consider. But, as I said, I have had communication with the orbs and I have a "knowing" within me as well that they are beings. And while it is belief and not proof, once you believe and know, proof seems irrelevant one way or the other. At least that's how it is for me anyway. I spent much of my life reading about the paranormal and hoping to find evidence of the spirit world, but it was only when I came at it from a different angle--choosing to accept it as truth first, did it all open up and present itself to me as knowledge rather than evidence.

Anyway, good on ya, Chris! I appreciate you sharing your findings and I believe in you 100%.

haha yeah i shook off a very dirty jumper, just to show how dust looks at the moment of flash in the lens (btw lots of false orbs on the actual cameras picture

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/dea...it/P1010001.jpg

From this photo for those who missed it:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v450/dea...nt=DSC_0476.jpg


and even some with the guts stuff inside, so there you go!
(I believe the guts effect and any black bits inside the orb are due to the plastic cover of the flash unit, possibly something covering it like moisture or a smeary mark, i know that black dots are things on the cover anyway)

i could also recomend a duster buster for your house !