Before I begin, let me say:


"Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ will come again."





In the dawn of time, nothing existed yet......or so we thought.




What if the universe is no more than one of many spherical dimensions? If you don't already know, The Universe is a sperichal dimension that starts off as a small ball. Think of an egg cell in the woman's womb. It starts off as a single cell. Then it multiplies and expands when fertilized with sperm.
Now think of The Universe as that egg cell, except as a sphere. It expands and expands wider and wider in radius. Untill it reaches it's climax. Then it retracts and goes through the process again.

This is fact. The oldest rocks found deep within the earth are only about 300 billion years old. Our Universe is quite young. Then again.......how long does a Universe last before it retracts again? And what is outside of the Universe.....you would think nothing. Nothing at all. No matter, nothing. Can you prove that though? No. Never. Unless we truely do have an afterlife with God.

So, where is Heaven and Hell or Purgatory? We very well know that Heaven is not in the clouds, Hell is not in the Earth, and Purgatory is not in the somewhat fictional "Limbo Land" or land of no conciousness.

Perhaps, these places are outside of our Universe. Outside of the sphere. Maybe there are many more Universe' out there. For now we cannot prove that.


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It's the year 2006. We all know that Nostradamus, a famed prophet for his psychical visions of the future(Predictor of 9/11, WWII, Nuclear War of 2006, and many things), saw the beginning of the Apocalypse in the New Millenium. Born in 1506 and died in 1566, Nostradamus practiced witchcraft and was most certainly damned to Hell according to God's teachings. He seemed to know anyways.

Recently, Italian archeologists discovered ancient scriptures from Nostradamus. He buried them all scrambled untill mankind had the technology to find them and decode them. We've decoded his scriptures and found his predictions. Interested in depth of his predictions? Visit http://www.nostradamusonline.com/ for a copy of The Nostradamus Code.

Nostradamus predicted something happening on June 6th 2006. June is the sixth month of the year. So on the calender it will say: 6/06/06. The sign of the Beast. The sign of the devil and all that is evil. Taking away the zero's since they represent nothing. You get 666. What will happen on this day? We will very soon find out. Very soon. If we are to get nuked by Korea or the middle east, we will trigger World War III. A Nuclear War. This will be thee worst thing ever to happen in mankind. Ever.




During the 1980s, one of the major concerns of the effects of a potential nuclear war was the possibility of it causing a 'nuclear winter' - a catastrophic change in climate caused by the ejection of massive amounts of dust and smoke into the atmosphere during the course of such a war. Yet, since the end of the Cold War in 1989, discussion of the potential for major climatic changes due to a nuclear conflict has virtually ceased - despite the fact the large arsenals of nuclear weapons still remain on alert status, and hence such a conflict could still happen by accident. And of course, recent tensions, in particular between India and Pakistan, could still lead to an intentional nuclear war.
The devastation of a nuclear winter

Obviously, when a nuclear bomb hits a target, it causes a massive amount of devastation, with the heat, blast and radiation killing tens or hundreds of thousands of people instantly and causing huge damage to infrastructure. But in addition to this, a nuclear explosion throws up massive amounts of dust and smoke. For example, a large nuclear bomb bursting at ground level would throw up about a million tonnes of dust.

As a consequence of a nuclear war, then, the dust and the smoke produced would block out a large fraction of the sunlight and the sun's heat from the earth's surface, so it would quickly become be dark and cold - temperatures would drop by something in the region of 10-20ºC - many places would feel like they were in an arctic winter. It would take months for the sunlight to get back to near normal. The drop in light and temperature would quickly kill crops and other plant and animal life while humans, already suffering from the direct effects of the war, would be vulnerable to malnutrition and disease on a massive scale.

In the case of an (e.g.) accidental nuclear exchange between the USA and Russia, the main effects would be felt in the northern hemisphere, as the dust and smoke would quickly circulate across this area. But even in this case, it would soon affect the tropics - where crops and other plant/ animal life are especially sensitive to cold. Hence, even in these areas there would be major problems.

While the temperature at the surface would be low, the temperature of the upper part of the troposphere (5-11 km) would rise because of sunlight absorbed by the smoke, so there would be a huge temperature inversion. That would keep many other pollutants produced by widespread fires (e.g. dioxins, PCBs, sulphurous gases) down at the levels people breathe, making a very dense and highly toxic smog.

One further environmental problem would be widespread destruction of the ozone layer caused by high levels of nitrogen oxides. The average loss of ozone could be as much as 70% - much higher than that currently cause by CFCs. So after several months when the smoke cleared and the sun began to shine again, there would be a large increase of UV radiation reaching the earth's surface. This would be bad for humans (e.g. eye and skin damage), but the major effect would be for other living things, notably sensitive plankton, which are at the bottom layer of the whole marine food chain. Animals would also suffer - blindness would be common - and blind animals would quickly starve.

Altogether, nuclear winter would be an ecological disaster of a similar magnitude to the major extinctions of the past, such as that at the end of the Cretaceous period 65 million years ago when 75% of all species died out, including the dinosaurs. An added factor after a nuclear war would be radioactive contamination giving worldwide background radiation doses many times larger than has ever happened during the 3 billion years of evolution.


Nostradamus isn't the only one who predicted Catastropic events. The ancient Mayans did as well.


The Mayans were extroadinary astronamors. Their calender was based off the positioning of the stars and planets. Their calender, comes to an abrupt end on December 21, 2012. It literally stops. Ends.

They predict the world will end on that day.


On December 21, 2012 at exactly 11:11 a.m. GMT The sun will go off it's ordinary course towards the west and head northeast. Then it will stop in it's place and create an eclipse that reveals the crossline between the Galactic Galaxy, and the Milkyway Galaxy. We will all be injected by cosmic rays and peace will become dominant. I hope this is how it happens.



Then there's the Bible. The ancient scriptures of Christ, Abraham, and Isaac. As well as many more prophets that describe the same catastrophic events Nostradamus describes. The Bible predicts the antichrist and the beast coming. As well as Christ's return.


"Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ will come again."



"When the end of the world truely comes. I will sigh in relief. For there will be so much to look foward to."

If no one here sees our existence as a prophecy then you will probably ignore this thread. I see our existence as a prophecy to end evil. So when the apocalypse comes mankind will choose their side and end this chaos. I'm sure there's more out there, than what we can imagine.

Let us only hope we who are faithful to the Lord are saved.

ok...well then, great post, however i have to pick just a few points out for dissection
nostradamus, while a great writer, is not nearly as accurate in his predictions as most believe, and all require a great deal of interpretation. (some less than others, and these are often read as evidence of his abilities)
secondly the mayan calendar has been described in sooooooo many threads it's lost any significance it may have once had, and if i am right, it was even stated in one such thread that the mayans don't think the world will end then, it's just a bit mysterious that their calendar does.
finally, i doubt any apocalypses short of nuclear war will be occuring, and if they do, it's because of warring politics, not an angry spiteful god...imo that is.

If God truly exists then he would most definintly come if the world was at stake. The Mayans calender set off in Ages. The last Age ended August 11, 3056 B.C. and led into the 4th age. They predict the 5th age will be all about peace and what not. Also known as the Aquarine Age.

i didn't question god's existence, merely gods involvement. i doubt he would involve himself if the world were to be destroying itself, why bother to fix the old one, when you can build a new one for less?

We have meaning we don't understand. I was saying if God exists and created the Earth with Christ and all those people then it would be retarded to just let it kill itself.

Forgive me, Lightknight, but you appear to be stating that if it is God's will to let humanity and/or the Earth be destroyed, it is a retarded decision. Do you believe that Christ would have been concerned with bodies... or, rather, eternal souls?

I'm saying if God wanted to create us he wouldn't just let us destroy ourselves without revealing himself. It's only a theory.

I do my best not to place limits on God in my manner of speech (It happens accidentally to most any of us), and can't purport to know His intentions, nor His reasoning. However, below is a human analogy where destruction may seem logical. This is not meant to be construed as my notion of God's thought process.

A man owns a home and catches a glimpse of a spider on the ceiling. He says to himself, "Yeah, I'll leave it be. Spiders don't hurt me, and they do eat bugs."

Several days later, the man has a party planned. Guests will be arriving within hours, and that same spider has constructed an enormous, sticky web in the corner of his living room. He has nothing against the spider, but the room now harbors an ugliness about it from his perspective.

There are big plans for that room, and while his ultimate goal is to vacuum the web without harming the spider, he accepts that the spider's death is inevitable. He feels somewhat bad, but it is only a spider, and likely has a soul as he does.


On the matter of creation/destruction, I think of the street artists in Europe who draw those wonderful chalk murals on the sidewalks, knowing full well that the next rain or street cleaning will destroy them. They take pleasure in the creations and the joy that stems from others' appreciation, but care for inspiration and beauty without regard for longevity.

Then again one would wonder about "soul", in all this. If the soul is the spirit of man, that which is sourced from god of creation, it is either abiding in the domain of god before being committed to flesh, or is made outright by god the instant of it's quickening into flesh.

So, per the analogy in quotes, one wonders how something "born" from the creative will of god can be corrupted (born into sin), as it enters the other creation of god (humans), also "born of sin", and how it is that soul, which is a higher energy than flesh, could be damned to suffer pains in hell, for the actions committed by the individual human while alive in the flesh.
How is it that the flesh can corrupt soul, if it is soul that burns and suffers for eternity for the choices made by the flesh, when the soul was first made perfect by it's creator and thus emanates from the power of it's "father". But residing in flesh damns it at birth of the flesh, because the flesh that soul is made for so as to sustain it is damned from the moment the flesh it is made for in the first place, comes into life through the will of god.

And how is it the choice in the flesh to accept the spirit of a former human prophet, (Son of man, son of god), can redeem the soul not to suffer for the actions of the flesh. And yet the soul that was created by the god of heaven, in being redeemed, ascends to be with it's creator that created it to be damned and then suffer it's way home again. (or not )

If god made the soul, how can god choose to damn it by quickening it to life in that damned human form? And that damned human form can then redeem itself after the birth that damned it, if it only accepts Jesus and chooses to save itself from the life it was born into through god.

If god made the soul, how can man redeem what god damned from birth as a curse for a sin long centuries ago? A "Sin" of disobedience for daring to....gain knowledge! If Jesus is forgiveness, why doesn't god? (forgive the sin that damns us from our beginning!? )

People say that god is coming soon and I believe it will be soon

WHat the Bible descrives as the "End Times" is not merely another world war. I doubt God would return because of a another world. But this is not what the Bible's "end times" are about.

Why is CHrist coming back> Because in the end times, mankind will be united under the mark of the antichrist. This mark, Biblically speaking, actually prevents a person from ever making a descision to follow God. THAT'S why God will invlove himself. THAT'S when his creation has lost it purpose, and no longer has any reason to exist, and THAT'S when he will return, and Judgement day will fall upon the earth.

So for now, we can breathe easy.

But with the decent development os neural interference chips...

..could it be that the "mark of the antichrist" would actually be a computer chip, which would interfere with a person's brain to the point they could not worship or seek God? It would make sense to me, however, there is no telling what the "mark" will be, until the prophecies surrounding it come to pass (IE not buying or selling without the mark, everyone must have one or be killed, ect.)

Do you actually desire to find the answers to these questions? Or are you merely spouting rhetorec to further your own vurrent beliefs?

Your questions are are valid. They are legitimate questions. And it is only natural to ask them. If you really want to begin to try to learn the answers, I would be more than willing to discuss things with you. You can always PM me. However, if you are just posting these questions as support for your own beliefs, ask yourself why your are trying to convice other people of something you yourself don't have the answer to.

I would say that the only reason something would happen on 6/6/06 is because people believe it will. You get enough people believing that something will happen, you will have a certain group of people plan something out to make sure something DOES happens.

As far an any interpretations taken of the Bible supposedly pointing to the end of times that a particular religion spouts, is merely a fear construct to get people to stregnthen their beliefs OR ELSE!!

Mankind determines what will happen and when it will happen, it is up to them fulfill any prophecies they see fit to carry out. Why live in a fear of something such as this happening when we could all change the way we think or feel and thus change the world. The fact that anyone even believes in a supposed prophesy just set into action for it to be carried out.

Surfing the channels this morning I happened upon what was a very cute commercial from the beginning. A baby child was standing in a field holding a string and watching their red kite dance on the breezes. Then the kite got into a little trouble and the child reeled it in to see if it was ok, and there in the cross bars of the kite's back was a note. The baby opens the note and looks to the sky and beams a smile, then turns and runs toward home.

"Believe Again"

A denominational commercial of faith. (for the Methodist church if I'm not mistaken.)

I agree with your observations Vehement. We are programmed on so many levels, secularly and religiously, to fear change. I knew atheists that were loaded for at least a year in their emergency pantry, for the computer millennium bug to devastate the world at midnight of 2000. Can't believe in Jesus breaking through the clouds, might as well fear a shut down of the hard drive forever!
Wouldn't I have loved to own primary shares in a grocery store back then!

Think of all those end of world scenarios out there especially in latter 90's, and all the large cash that rolled in right before the last century rolled out. But yet we're led to believe we as the highest thinking animal that defiles it's own environment, are the be all to end all in creation, this side of god. So then when the earth is to make that 100th cycle around the sun yet again after millions /billions of years, it must certainly be the end because....we earned it!

What's it say to hold ourselves in such contempt that we imagine our higher self worthy of nature destroying us because of who we are!? How can we not imagine there are parasites out there that will feed off that insecurity till they explode for the glut!?
When was it that we actually started to live the belief that we are just that evil living as ourselves!?

We are in the END OF DAYS and nuclear war happening is a possiblitiy, I just hope I dont have to be around to witness it, BUT from the looks of it, I doubt it. The mayan calendar predicts the world ending dec. 2012 which is just around the corner and then all the bad things that are happening it's like everything in REVALATIONS is happening.......

ALMOST ALL THE SEALS HAVE BEEN OPENED.........

All we can do is pray and hope that there is a better place than here and that god forgives our sins..................................