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http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060303_big_crater.html

Maybe the gods that the Eyptians worshipped were the Aliens that crashed into the crater.

Kaknelson
Possibly... ?

Maybe its just a crater like all the others in the world ? innocent.gif
sonofkrypton
there was a topic page 3 on the end of the world 2006 in the forums and this was posted
Isaiah, 19:19-20 :-

In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the BORDER thereof to the Lord. And it shall be a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

im not remotely religeous but hey a meteor impact site could always be quite intresting to an early civilisation
Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(sonofkrypton @ Mar 27 2006, 04:59 AM) [snapback]1122459[/snapback]

there was a topic page 3 on the end of the world 2006 in the forums and this was posted
Isaiah, 19:19-20 :-

In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the BORDER thereof to the Lord. And it shall be a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

im not remotely religeous but hey a meteor impact site could always be quite intresting to an early civilisation


From the article:

"The crater has two rings, a common configuration. Over time, it has been eroded by wind and water to make it unrecognizable to the untrained eye.

“The courses of two ancient rivers run through it from the east and west,” Ghoneim said.

The timing of the impact has not been determined."

Emphasis mine.

To me, this suggests a very old crater - one that possibly predates human civilization. Meteor Crater in Arizona is estimated to be 50,000 years old. Certainly there's no indication that the impact occured during biblical times. Of course, we will have to wait until geologists can offer us a date to know for sure, but until then I for one will assume it was ancient.

-Pilgrim
sonofkrypton
i understand your point pilgrim shadow although many religeous sites can be dated from ancient times perhaps it was old enough to be remembered by the stone age or paleo-lithic societies of long ago or maybe they were handed down as tales who knows if i was to argue with myself i'd say if it was so important there would be evidence of a shrine or a building / im likening sites like this to natural springs or wells which have always had religeous significance and were always taken over,re-used or upgraded any thoughts (be gentle just trying to put a different spin on things you know think outside the box and all that LOL)
Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(sonofkrypton @ Mar 27 2006, 11:01 AM) [snapback]1122759[/snapback]

i understand your point pilgrim shadow although many religeous sites can be dated from ancient times perhaps it was old enough to be remembered by the stone age or paleo-lithic societies of long ago or maybe they were handed down as tales who knows if i was to argue with myself i'd say if it was so important there would be evidence of a shrine or a building / im likening sites like this to natural springs or wells which have always had religeous significance and were always taken over,re-used or upgraded any thoughts (be gentle just trying to put a different spin on things you know think outside the box and all that LOL)


That's certainly possible. I just wanted to make sure everyone realized that this crater is by no means recent. It could date to early Egyptian cultures like the Nubians; it could predate human existance. We just don't know yet. It's an exciting find.

-Pilgrim
sonofkrypton
i agree pilgrim it is an exciting find i like imagining these things happening and witnessing them first hand i think the most recent one to be partially witnessed was in the tunguska region / i like to imagine the dominant religeous leaders and shamans trying to make sense of it all and kings and chieftains listeneing and acting upon them as if they had religeous significance with that community naivety and an intresting concept but above all exciting
Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(sonofkrypton @ Mar 27 2006, 11:39 AM) [snapback]1122810[/snapback]

i agree pilgrim it is an exciting find i like imagining these things happening and witnessing them first hand i think the most recent one to be partially witnessed was in the tunguska region / i like to imagine the dominant religeous leaders and shamans trying to make sense of it all and kings and chieftains listeneing and acting upon them as if they had religeous significance with that community naivety and an intresting concept but above all exciting


There are meteor strikes quite regularly, actually. A well-known meteor strike in North America in the 60's became the basis for the Kecksburg UFO legend. However, Tunguska was the last such event of even remotely similar magnitude. The blast was seen from as far away as London (!) and leveled a good portion of forest. It destroyed buildings from over a mile away.

This meteor strike, however, would have made the Tunguska event seem like a firecracker. I imagine nothing would have survived for miles around.

-Pilgrim
sonofkrypton
i agree pilgrim it says in the article that it has two rivers flowing through it im not sure if they did at a time b4 the impact but evidently it would attract people to the watersource anyway imagine getting there after the impact and seeing the impact the previous day it must be a very frightening thing to be in the prescence of i'd love to be a religeous leader back then.................... errr ok ive spoken to god about the loud noise and lights he says you need to give me all your gold and some virgins and he'll forget the whole thing LOL
WereBo
It certainly looks good on 'Google Earth'user posted image...

user posted image
isis-999
Maybe a metor fell to earth...... thumbsup.gif
Dakotabre
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN SOMETHING FOR ME?

I don't understand, the article said this 37km creator was probably from a large space rock, and that the meteor that killed the dinosours would have had to have been 100's of miles in diameter. Well, if these creators and the whiping out of the dinosours where cause by big gigantic space rocks.... Where are these gigantic rocks now? To create a creator 37kms wide the meteor/space rock would have to be pretty big, did it just disapear after crashing to Earth. And the one that 'supposidly' whiped out the dinosours being 100's of miles wide - shouldn't there be these Huge Mamoth space rocks sitting around somewhere?

The answer to my question is probably very simple, it's just that I don't know what it is mellow.gif
Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(Dakotabre @ Mar 29 2006, 10:11 PM) [snapback]1126382[/snapback]

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN SOMETHING FOR ME?

I don't understand, the article said this 37km creator was probably from a large space rock, and that the meteor that killed the dinosours would have had to have been 100's of miles in diameter. Well, if these creators and the whiping out of the dinosours where cause by big gigantic space rocks.... Where are these gigantic rocks now? To create a creator 37kms wide the meteor/space rock would have to be pretty big, did it just disapear after crashing to Earth. And the one that 'supposidly' whiped out the dinosours being 100's of miles wide - shouldn't there be these Huge Mamoth space rocks sitting around somewhere?

The answer to my question is probably very simple, it's just that I don't know what it is mellow.gif


This is actually a very good question. It is my understanding that the rocks are, in fact, right where they are supposed to be, but they have been fractured and buried with debris. Thus, instead of finding a nice, big, round rock like you might expect from a cartoon, you have a layer of pulverized rock lying underneath the surface of the soil, sometimes quite a ways down.

The Tunguska event, which was mentioned earlier in this thread, is a special case, because it is believed to have been a comet and it didn't actually strike the earth. Rather, it exploded a few kilometers up (if I remember correctly). The resultant debris was mostly ice and has not been recovered, probably because the temperature in Tunguska in summer is still well above freezing. However, the violence of that blast is well recorded. Furthermore, it did leave an interesting mark on the earth - a butterfly-shaped area of dead forest in which all the trees were flattened radially. Those trees directly under the blast were not leveled, but were stripped of all their branches, something which puzzled early researches and led to all manner of speculation. The dead zone has now recovered (this was in 1908) but photos of the site remain in circulation. You can see one such image of the devestation here:

http://star.arm.ac.uk/paseg/Tunguska-BW.jpg

-Pilgrim
Dakotabre
original.gif Ah, Thanks Pilgrim. Your post of your 'understanding' sounds plausable. Thank you!

Wow, that butterfly blast sounds very interesting, and a neat photo as well.
It is very scary to think that something hurttling through space could smash into us and cause such damaging effect. Ok, so that blast was over a forest, but what if it happened over New York, Sydney or Washington etc.. Terrifying thought dontgetit.gif
Bigfoot_Is_Real
1. well the good side of that is that we would come to realize that we don't control the universe

2. it would be bad because i get my nintendo usb wifi connectors from new york lol jk laugh.gif
KingTomis
An astroid 100's of miles across would pretty much hit with enough force to break apart planet earth.

The meteor that killed the dinosours was perhaps only a mile or 2 long, if not less.

You see, a crater is not the size of the actual object that hit, its the rock that shifted as it was struck.

For example watch this. http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/arizcrater.htm

While the well knows crater in arizona is about .7 miles across (roughly 1.1 kilometers), while the meteorite that hit it was only 50 meters across.
woody82
Pretty good clip you got. But as for this crater in Eygpt it could be such that they did worship people of the sky, them that gave them the designs of the pyramids since if you look can't remember exactly which three but they were exactly alligned with a certain constalation in the sky.

And were i'm cooming from the post which said that the aliens they worshiped crashed landed is possible, but it could of just be a freak incident or could there be the possibility don't know really that some built a pyramid and was unhappy and somehow blew it up? maybe they had technologys that could do that.....

Any idea of how recent this crater is?
sonofkrypton
the main pyramids on the giza plateau are aligned to the 3 stars on horizons belt im not too sure about the alien connection woody82 is making but it was a mean engineering feat considering the tools and level of knowledge although the level of knowledge now compared to then is completely different and the world as a whole was completely different ie. commerce, religion and such and such back then appeasing your god was one of the most important things in your daily life and thats wot makes the difference we choose to worship they had to worship
woody82
I can't remember were i got the alien conection from, but all i can say is it must of been very conveinient that they managed to get them alligned exactly i think people of our time may struggle a little.

Anyway to be honest back then there was a more lets say respect for the world and religion in general people were God fearing now to behonest there not. They don't do things to pl;ease them or out like then.

You bring you a good point but as for this crater for me its just a natural disater. But if i'm proven wrong then i'll admit it.
sonofkrypton
i totally agree its a natural phenomenon.......... my point is fear is a good motivator we cant imagine building the pyramids because we dont have to if a molevolant force came down and told us it would destroy every child on the planet unless we built something like that with the same tools and equipment i bet we could ................ i know there wasn't the same level of fear but im sure my point comes accross LOL i hope so anyway
woody82
Point taken. But to be honest us humans now are well lets say arrogant, cocky, and some are well arseholes. So really would they no most would try and find someway of preventing it.

But this is definatley a anture disater just asking anyone know a date to when it was meant to have happened?
snuffypuffer
IF an impact that large happened during the time when people were around I'm sure there would be a lot about it in the historical record. Even with allusions and religious significance attached we'd know pretty much what happened. I'm imagining it's predating human civilization by a good number of years.

Besides, I'm pretty, you should always agree with pretty people.
reallygreatidea
Obviously the craters in Egypt are some form of natural disaster, and obviously were not put there since humankind lived, or they would be in the Bible and other historical documents . I agree wholeheartedly with this point. thumbsup.gif
Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(woody82 @ Mar 30 2006, 11:40 AM) [snapback]1126971[/snapback]

Point taken. But to be honest us humans now are well lets say arrogant, cocky, and some are well arseholes. So really would they no most would try and find someway of preventing it.

But this is definatley a anture disater just asking anyone know a date to when it was meant to have happened?


No date has yet been determined, according to the article. However, as it mentions considerable erosion and the fact that two "ancient" rivers cut through it, I feel that assuming it predates human civilization is not unjustified.

Of course, until a firm date is determined, we should not get too carried away with our theorizing. Still, one can't help but wonder.

-Pilgrim
Mors Profundis
A really big asteroid or comet strike would have been unforgettable.
Seems most large impactors break up in the air, and the blast wave does the damage, but if there is a hit, the effects are horrendous.
Boom
Bada boom.
Beeg bada boom.
Hope it doesn't happen near you.
For myself, I don't much care.
Ancient World Wonders
QUOTE(Mors Profundis @ Apr 1 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]1130293[/snapback]

A really big asteroid or comet strike would have been unforgettable.
Seems most large impactors break up in the air, and the blast wave does the damage, but if there is a hit, the effects are horrendous.
Boom
Bada boom.
Beeg bada boom.
Hope it doesn't happen near you.
For myself, I don't much care.



In fact, small asteroids and meteors strike the earth a million times a day, however most of them burn up in the atmosphere. But some of them do make it through and are "shooting stars". Several years ago, a large asteroid came within a couple of million miles from earth, (which caused all this "deep impact" hubbub and movie madness about impact - but due to the orbit of the earth around the sun, it missed us. However the effects were felt around the world, much like the moon affects the tides. It slips my mind how, however the fact that I remember that time in history and this event is why it's memorible.
artymoon
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Mar 28 2006, 11:18 PM) [snapback]1125042[/snapback]

Maybe a metor fell to earth...... thumbsup.gif

Ahh c'mon now, that's too reasonable. alien.gif
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