I'm wondering if anyone watches this show............I really loved it until I saw an episode where the medium, Derek Akura (sp?) was so obviously planning his possession..... it ruined it for me. I've since heard a lot of spoiler information, like the host making noises, the producer setting up scares just to name a few.

I'm rather curious why it is there isn't a show like that, be it more realistic, for here in the US. TAPS does the scientific, debunking side of it, where is the show that has people doing a 24 hour vigil? Thats the kind of show we need here if you ask me!

I hate Derek Acorah. He actual expects people will believe that nearly every time he goes into a supposedly haunted place, he's going to get possessed

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Sorry this show sucks. It is so obviously fake. Its the only show like this where they are suppose to see ghost, hear them talking yet no photos, no EVP recordings just one guy who seems to be possessed daily and a woman who seems to be a professional cry baby every time she thinks she hears something. Ghost Hunters is a much better show that show I think is for real.

" there is something eveil here , witch craft , evel dark..."...lol , every episode it is witchcraft...Last night four of them had a glass on a table , asking questions to a "ghost".The glass would move all around , of course they all had a finger on it....What a joke this show is...

Stay away from most haunted if you know what is best for you.
What aload of crap, i do believe in ghosts and the afterlife but this programme is an offence to any person who has a belief in this area, i used to watch the show but after awhile more occurances of Derek being possessed just did not add up, a true medium would not let themselves to be taken over like this, it dangerous to themselves and others.
Derek was also found out to be a fake by their own sceptic Keiran who gave false info and anagrammes which just happened to be passed on to Derek and whilst recording would use the information saying he was recieving it from his spirit guide sam.
And quite true about the screeming presenter, if you are honestly going to investigate a haunted house or wherever, you stay there shut your mouth and do a proper sitting, also the camera angles are terrible, you dont want to be seeing up their noses like blair witch you want to see the area they are in.
Inacurrate use of cameras, most of the happening on the show cannot be verified due to the fact that they never set cameras or recording equipment in the right places, but maybe thats the point, i do believe the show is staged and have no doubt that Derek was faking it, im not saying that Derek is a complete fake i do believe he has some sort of abillity but not as we are surposed to believe from the show.
It has made me realise you cant really take any programme on this subect to be completly true, no matter how it is done, it will alway leave areas open to scepticism.
The only fool proof way to do it is witness some phenomena with your own eyes, if you truely believe in something there is no reason you have to justify what you have experienced, its also up to you if you need confirmation of your belief to search for the evidence yourself you cant take second hand information as complete truth.

whats that sam?

yeh, derek a big fake.
but i think i saw THE WORST TV show about the paranormal last night, it was called haunted homes.

there was this one medium woman, some other guy and a sceptic who goes to somones supposedly haunted house to investigate.

horribly made horrible people. its on itv2 on a saturday night i guess.

Sam is surposed to be his spirit guide, he is an ethiopian boy. Sam is there to guide Derek, apparantly he must have gone out somewhere when Derek got caught drink driving tut tut didnt warn him he was going to get a driving ban, then again if i was sam i probably would have put my feet up and watched the show.
I have seen this Haunted Homes and i agree with you its sooooo fake, get it off the tv please.

Most Haunted is a stupid show made by stupid people.

fishka, I agree with you about Derek. An experienced medium would not allow themselves to be possessed.

Also the way they call on anything to show themselves it's not the way to deal with the spiritual side.

I totally agree with you, there is absolutely no respect to the spirits.
Yvette started out as such a cry baby then she went on to being really rude calling the spirits cowards for not showing themselves, would you really show yourself to a bunch of people who don't have any respect for the deceased nor any for the living, they obviously think we are all ignorant and will buy into the con they call Most Haunted.
I don't think it has the following that it used to have but you will always get your die hard fans who just wont accept the fake that it is, but hey that's their problem.

I LOVE Most Haunted!
I know some of the stuff is fake, but that doesn't keep me from watching it
Most Haunted is first off A SHOW.
Nobody wants to watch an hour of a empty house with nothing in it
If they can't find something, they have to fill in with entertainment
On the Travel Channel, They are in the US
They went to the Hollywood American Legion, which was VERY freaky!
They had some poltergeist activity that Ciaran could not debunk (which by the way, he debunks almost anything as either play acting, or other things)

I really enjoy Most Haunted. I like Derek, but yes, I think if he is being possessed, he should stop it from happening because it does appear ridiculous. Otherwise, I do believe he is an incredible medium. I just think his human side gets in the way and embellishes at times, which accounts for the trick Derek fell for regarding "Kreed Kafer" (anagram for Derek Faker) .

I don't mind Yvette being nervous and crying sometimes, but there were a few times I thought she was being rude, as Fishka pointed out.

It is easy to fault Most Haunted and the crew in hindsight, but I have watched the show grow and become more complex and interesting. I think they began as non-professional paranormal investigators, and rather were just interested people trying to explore and create a show on it. I have no problem with that. I also feel they have provided strong evidence for paranormal phenomenon such as ghost lights, sounds, interactions and communications.

Frankly, I look forward to this progam which airs once a week on Foxtel here in Australia. It is my weekly treat.

Sorry if i offended anyone with my comments about Most Haunted, these are only my personal views.
I also used to look forward to watching it, but for me i would rather not watch something that has to be faked at times to achieve good tv ratings.

I agree... and it's pretty annoying that in each episode they have to find something; entertainment or not. Though little Yvette and crazy Derek might keep ratings up, but I doubt for long. Sure, the first few times it's cute, but it just gets old...
And, Ghost Hunters is a better show...though I hate the drama that goes through some of the cast members. Eh, what they'll do for ratings. x_x

Have any of you seen the clip entitled "Mary Loves Dick"?
It was around here somewhere...

Though, if you believed in Most Haunted before, that'll certainly make you look at it in a different light.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...topic=63434&hl=

Thanks for that Taka! It was very funny! But I still don't see how this clip exposes Most Haunted as fake. To me, I saw Yvette trying not to laugh as Derek innocently said "Mary loves Dick" over and over without realizing the double meaning, and then he said that "she was covering Dick to protect him" (adding more fuel to the funny fire). Then Yvette says the historians are going nuts on her earpiece, as they seem to be excited over what Derek is saying (not the other kind of excited, mind you, the kind where he is accurately identifying personalities known to exist).

Derek seems rather modest most of the time (fearful to even say the word "sex" or anything like it on any episodes), so it would be completely out of character for him to knowingly say anything smutty. In fact, I picked out the best I could at the end where Yvette is laughing about it again saying "Mary loves Dick" was the funniest and best part of the take, and Derek is chuckling with slight embarrassment and saying, "no, no, no," to assure Yvette that he had not even thought of it that way. I sense it was just a really genuine moment and that the historians talking through Yvette's earpiece were verifying that Derek had hit upon some known historical facts.

In the end, this clip is taken totally out of context and everyone is talking over the top of each other, so either way it is not 100% clear what was said. But I do feel that the crew of MH is genuine so it is easy for me to interpret their actions as having a good laugh over a funny innocent instance.

How can you honestly say that the crew of Most Haunted are genuine when they were exposed along with Derek making stuff up?

I "feel that the crew of MH are genuine". I reached this conclusion by the same means that anyone might use to determine who is genuine or not, by analyzing their behaviour and comparing it to past experience, as well as using intuition.

I have never seen any evidence that Most Haunted has been exposed as making stuff up. If you know of documented proof, provide the link.

And as I said, Derek may be embellishing his psychic abilities, particularly through "possessions", but I believe he is a very accurate medium nonetheless.

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Come on now, you can tell this show is fake.. EVERY single episode they're experiencing all kinds of "ghost" activity.. that's the reason I love TAPS and their show.. most of the time they are debunking a haunting or not catchin anything, which might not be as exciting, but certainly makes it much more credible..

This show just gets on my nerves.. lol.. not to mention, as someone said, some of them have been proven to be fakes.

Fishka, thanks for the link. I looked at it and have run across this opinion in the past. It is all opinion, using words like "accuses", and "claims", which is not proof. O'Keeffe started off as a stauch skeptic, and not surprisingly, nothing changes his mind (my opinion, not proof ).

Tone, I can understand your skepticism of spirit activity occurring in every show, but it does not surprise me. We find what we are looking for and the cast/crew are looking for activity. Every evening that I have attempted to photograph orbs and spirits I have captured something. Every time I meditate I have spiritual contact. It is my belief and experience that spirits surround us in huge numbers constantly. When reaching out with an earnest open mind to the billions of spirit forms in a nearby dimension, I find it quite reasonable that some response is received virtually every time.

I have never seen the TAPS show, but if they hope to find nothing, they will have much less luck finding something. I remain perplexed as to why people interested in the paranormal, enough to watch the ghost hunting shows, make the ghost hunting shows, and research the literature, are so pleased and comforted when they feel they have found nothing or debunked another person's passionate claim.

I used to believe strongly in Most Haunted, until I ran across the 'Mary loves Dick' clip, and it ruined it for me. My parents never put any faith in it either, I suppose I can see why.

Anyway.
I guess this is just pointless arguing, isn't it? o_o



Have you seen their website? Probably have, but incase you haven't: TAPS.com
There's some clips and EVPs there, and some nice explanations of how supposed paranormal pictures can be created; i.e dust, reflections.

You mean that the "Mary loves Dick" clip turned you from strong believer to complete skeptic? That clip isn't even clear. Can you explain breifly what you see in this clip that is so convincing? Did you see the show from which this clip was taken? I haven't so for me it is completely out of context.

Thanks for the TAPS link. I had a look. Can you point me to their explanations of dust/reflections as I didn't find it.

^^^ Mmhm. I was actually disappointed for a while, at myself, and the show. As for what's so convincing, it's the laughter and 'good-old-time' atmosphere. To me, it looks like they're just playing a game.
I...really don't know.
I mean, can you really be sure about any TV show nowadays?

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I appreciate your views on spirits and i agree with you, i do believe in the existence of ghosts but i also have to apply logic and know that people will try to con you into believing anything they say.
Derek WAS caught out, O'Keeffe passed anagrams on to certain members of the crew which funny enough Derek used whilst doing his walk abouts, this is fact/proof/evidences that something is not right with the show.
I'm not disputing anything spiritual just the validity of the show, i personally don't think that O'Keeffe was that bad there has been a few times where he has admitted he could not explain certain noises etc, this is only my opinion but to be a true believer you also have to accept that things may not seem what they appear to be, if you are going out ghost hunting you have to accept that not all noises, smell etc are of supernatural doing, some probably are but you have to apply logic and rule out other possibility's.
I'm sorry if i sound like a sceptic but i suppose i am in a sense, like i said i do believe in spirits around us but whatever aspect of life you want to look at there will always be your con-men/women to try and spoil things, that's life but it is up to you to decide if you want to believe them or not.
I know for a fact that some people are just gullible and believe every bit of information given to them, I'm not one of those people, it doesnt change my beliefs if something i thought to be supernatural turns out not to be.
Sorry Alisa if i sound harsh, but what i put about Derek is proof the rest are my personal opinions and views so please don't think i am having a dig at you I'm just expressing my opinions.

most haunted is too fake for my liking. Definitely prefer Ghost Hunters and their strategy of deubnking paranormal activity rather than trying to prove it exists.

Fishka, I enjoy your comments and welcome your disagreements. I find you very resonable and logical. However...

I know that Derek used the Kreed Kafer (Derek Faker) bait set out for him. I agreed that Derek embellishes and in this case he grasped that information fed to him and perhaps he out-right faked this, or maybe his subconscious picked up on an entity and his conscious provided the name he had been "fed" with. Either way, I feel O'Keeffe was wrong to try to trick Derek in the first place. And even though Derek did embellish or outright fake that possession, which I agree places shadows of doubt on him as a whole, it does not invalidate every other piece of information he has psychically retrieved. Can a single incident determine the validity of every other incident involving Derek?

This is an example of a point I am quite passionate about--I believe most people are honest. I can't speak for your or other people's beliefs, but this has been my experience on this planet thus far. If 90+ percent of people are honest (which I believe to be the case), why do we treat everyone as if they are like the less than 10% that are dishonest. Why do we as people choose to focus on the negatives particularly when they are in the minority? Why not give people the benefit of the doubt and treat them as innocent until proven guilty?

I feel that by giving emphasis to the negatives, we contribute to the growth of the negatives. I feel O'Keeffe took a personal dislike to Derek from the beginning due to their difference in personality and roles in life. When O'Keeffe first joined the show as a regular, I immediately felt nervous when he was around Derek. I could feel the distain he had as it showed in his body language and words.



I agree that not all noises, sights, and smells are going to be paranormal. But I feel that we are heavily biased toward the idea that none of these things are paranormal until every other possibility has been overly exhausted. I personally interpret some things as paranormal until they show me they are not. And sometimes they do end up showing me they are not. I take spirit photographs in places I can double check night after night and in the day to determine if I am seeing an anomaly or a physical object. I strive to be open minded in both directions. My point is that as a society, we are coming from a very biased angle that paranormal experiences are extremely rare if they exist at all and that every paranormal instance must be overly scrutinized and found to be non-paranormal unless proven paranormal.



True, some people are gullible and believe whatever they hear or see, but I have not found these people to be in the majority (certainly not of the people on this forum, to say the least ). But even if someone is gullible, what makes them worse, or worse off than someone who is equally as skeptical. One will believe everything and see magic all around them, and if they don't throw money at their beliefs and buy lots of magic beans, then I don't see how their stance is so horrible. They see magic and feel excitement. On the other hand, if someone is so skeptical that virtually nothing persuades them to believe there is more to life than living, dying and paying taxes, that is their choice. I would not be happy feeling that way and was not happy when I was a biased skeptic. I am now a happy believer. Perhaps some think I am gullible. I don't think I am, but if I am, it is prefereable to strong skepticism.



I am happy to read your opinions and views. I know it is nothing personal. But thanks for saying so.

Sorry buggered up and cant find out how to delete this, HELP.

Thank you, i appreciate that you didn't take my views personally, its nice to actually have a discussion without it ending in an argument.
I have been giving your views alot of thought, and i have to admit that i agree with with you, i cant find fault or disagree with your views.
What you put about skeptics made so much sense, from now on i wont be putting myself in the category of a skeptic, i do hole heartedy believe in the afterlife and i also have a keen interest in magic, Ive no doubt that both exist i always have, i agree with you it would be a very boring existence for me anyway to just do the mundane stuff without having faith or believe in the supernatural, to me its just ignorance for anyone to be so closed minded and dismiss that anything else exists.
As for my wrongly use of words such as calling myself a skeptic (hangs head in shame) what i was trying to say was this, i have in the past been mislead and taken for a ride because of my beliefs so now i tend to put a barrier up and assess all the information i receive then make up my mind and not jump straight to the conclusion it is 100% supernatural.
Its not the fact that i don't want to believe i do, but i'm just more cautious i hope you can understand that.
I have mentioned in a previous post i didn't think that Derek was a complete fake he has to have some ability I'm not denying that, but i just don't think it is as strong as he makes out.
Yes O'Keeffe was probably wrong to trick Derek but i suppose that's is what he is employed to do, i have to admit that O'Keeffe was slightly better than Matthew Smith he was a total skeptic in fact i would go as far as saying he was a total non-believer, at least with the true meaning of skeptic there is a chance that supernatural goings on will be considered to be true, when you are dealing with a non-believer you don't stand a chance at all, everything you say will always be knocked down.
You asked the question, why not treat everybody as innocent until prov en guilty? Well part of my reason is above, the problem with today is that we do have too many people who are just out to make money at others expense, i feel sorry for people who rely on physic phone lines to get them though life then on the other hand i think well if they are happy to do so then why not, i do think that you have to live your-life and not constantly rely on contacting the other side for guidance, you have to make your own mistakes and control your-life yourself, but that's only my opinion, Ive seen many programmes and books with people who cannot let go of loved ones and its so heartrending they turn to every medium in sight to receive a message and carry on doing so months, years after their loved one has past, i personally feel that you cannot close the grieving process like this and possibly could put a hold on the spirit from moving on as well.
I don't like to think that people are being taken for a ride, it has always been difficult to get skeptics to admit that something other than the rational is going on without having so many fraudsters using fake photos, video etc.
This is one downside to having such advanced technology it makes in so easy for pictures and video footage etc be doc ted, it also makes people skeptical whether what they are seeing is true or fake, this unfortunately is how ghost storys are perceived today as story unless they have an experience themselves.
I find to-days culture doesnt give much space for the supernatural, it seems to me people are too busy enhancing their appearance than their inner self, we all have the ability to be physic to some degree but the majority just don't care, for me i think they are really missing out and have probably had some sort of supernatural experience and have just dismissed it.
Well Ive got to go now, hope you are still awake.

I totally agree. It takes two to have a civilized discussion and I appreciate your part in that, too! I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post and all of the heartfelt sentiments and theories you have. You are a deep, compassionate thinker and a pleasure to discuss or have a debate with. Thanks for seeing my side so clearly. It made me feel very happy and understood.

I hate that show. It's dumb and I wish they would take it off the air!!!!!!!!!!!

it totally depends on what you're looking for in a show about people investigating the paranormal. That being said, i think MH is pretty far behind Ghost Hunters in terms of authenticity.....

I think this is one of the worst shows on TV! I think Ghost Hunters is a really good show. Also that show "A haunting"

Thank you very much

new Ghost Hunters on tonight! Preview makes it look pretty crazy-->"Something came out and touched me!"

Is this that show with the heavy set blond haired woman that has the big hat and walks around with her husband that holds the video camera she is a total joke!

Hiya,
was just passing through and came up with this page via google search. I have to hand it to you people, Taka, Alisa, fishka. you have made me join this sight by your in depth chats about Most Haunted. I am currently doing research on this and found all your comments for and against interesting. At the end of the day thu, if I got a chance to appear on a MH live then I would. The best one I have seen to date is the Pendle Hill stint they did a couple of halloweens ago. java script:emoticon(':yes:',######'smid_31')

Thanks for opening me up to a wealth of stimulus.