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et's daddy
ive been wondering

many of you try and say 9/11 was atleast partially an inside job

if so, i am wondering why no one from Osama's circle has implicated anyone in our gov. ?

seems if our gov. took part in 9/11 Osama and them would want the connection to be made
RedEyeJedi
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Apr 6 2006, 10:58 PM) [snapback]1136536[/snapback]

ive been wondering

many of you try and say 9/11 was atleast partially an inside job

if so, i am wondering why no one from Osama's circle has implicated anyone in our gov. ?

seems if our gov. took part in 9/11 Osama and them would want the connection to be made
How are they supposed to know?? grin2.gif grin2.gif
TK0001
When first hearing he was the only suspect, Bin Laden proclaimed his innocence, and told Americans to look to their own government for answers.

So that was kind of an implication.
kArin Spinn
I dont understand why The "terrorists" attacked The Twin Towers, why not the Empire State building or the Statue Of Liberty, The main sign of America...There has to be a secret hidden from the public...
Fluffybunny
QUOTE(kArin Spinn @ Apr 8 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]1139237[/snapback]

I dont understand why The "terrorists" attacked The Twin Towers, why not the Empire State building or the Statue Of Liberty, The main sign of America...There has to be a secret hidden from the public...


The Twin Towers had far more of a financial impact, the statue of liberty would be missed, but really it would not of had such a toll of lives lost and financial and investment companies destroyed.

As for OBL and his group not being able to know of an inside connection, how is it that people here seem to know about it, yet they cannot? Do we have people here that are are more connected and knowledgeable that all of the people of alqueda?
RedEyeJedi
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Apr 8 2006, 09:34 PM) [snapback]1139250[/snapback]
As for OBL and his group not being able to know of an inside connection, how is it that people here seem to know about it, yet they cannot? Do we have people here that are are more connected and knowledgeable that all of the people of alqueda?

I was talking about being able to implicate individuals. I was also implying they had nothing to do with it, so their guess would be as good as ours.

Al-Qaida is a myth, by the way.
aquatus1
QUOTE(RedEyeJedi @ Apr 8 2006, 09:30 PM) [snapback]1139297[/snapback]

Al-Qaida is a myth, by the way.


Wow. So...When was it begun?
RedEyeJedi
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Apr 8 2006, 10:32 PM) [snapback]1139299[/snapback]

Wow. So...When was it begun?
9/11/2001 yes.gif
aquatus1
QUOTE(RedEyeJedi @ Apr 8 2006, 10:17 PM) [snapback]1139335[/snapback]

9/11/2001 yes.gif

Are you serious? Or is this another one of those face-value things you do?
RedEyeJedi
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Apr 9 2006, 12:10 AM) [snapback]1139382[/snapback]

Are you serious? Or is this another one of those face-value things you do?
LOL. I was just trying to be funny. Not in the mood for arguing today. grin2.gif

This is a good clip from a series called the Power of Nightmares.
truthorder
Good clip, huh?

Before I click on that, would it be from a reputable, neutral resource....or from a site that has its own agenda?
RedEyeJedi
QUOTE(truthorder @ Apr 9 2006, 12:41 AM) [snapback]1139407[/snapback]

Good clip, huh?

Before I click on that, would it be from a reputable, neutral resource....or from a site that has its own agenda?
It was a BBC2 documentary called 'The Power of Nightmares'

Click away.
Glacies
interesting link, i must say...though i remain neutral in this debate...for now...(ominous foreshadowing)
truthorder
The BBC, a left-wing outfit with absolutely no agenda of their own....... innocent.gif


Obviously, you can sense the sarcasm.


The BBC is hardly an outlet that would be reputable. The BBC has their own agenda and it is left-wing/Socialist based.

As such, I regard anything broadcast on that pathetic network as completely biased.

Not gonna buy it. Sorry dude.
Snowball
QUOTE(truthorder @ Apr 9 2006, 09:11 AM) [snapback]1139834[/snapback]

The BBC, a left-wing outfit with absolutely no agenda of their own....... innocent.gif
Obviously, you can sense the sarcasm.
The BBC is hardly an outlet that would be reputable. The BBC has their own agenda and it is left-wing/Socialist based.

As such, I regard anything broadcast on that pathetic network as completely biased.

Not gonna buy it. Sorry dude.


If the BBC isn't good enough can I just ask who you would consider a reputable, neutral source?
truthorder
How about Reuters or the AP?
hdihnen
QUOTE(truthorder @ Apr 9 2006, 11:41 AM) [snapback]1140355[/snapback]

How about Reuters or the AP?

It's funny, I have been reading and reading on this site for quite some time and it appears to most often be the case that nothing is reputable by people placing their comments on here, unless it comes staight from a news agency or the like.

Yet our news agencies are just as corrupt about twisting the truth or not providing anything close. They provide what will bring viewers and ratings.

So why is it that so many members on this site who make their comments against what people find and post is always, "that did not come from a very good source". Given the media we have today, nothing will every be good enough for anyone to call a reputable source.

I'd say let people have their thoughts and opinions, and have a good debate, but arguing over reputable sources will lead a discussion to no where. No one will ever no the truth unless they are directly involved and can prove or disprove all the theories on this site.

It has become frustrating to read interesting theories on these forums when regular members are constantly arguing over someones source for their theory or where it orginated, instead of debating the ways or not that it could be true. I believe the site is called "Unexplained Mysteries".
The Silver Thong
The BBC, a left-wing outfit with absolutely no agenda of their own.......

That was a Quote from "thruthorder"


It's seem's that hypocrisy rains with this because you claim the left is over the top when actually they are quit mild.

It appears you like this guy alot, oh what's his name, that really messed up individual that seems to have a one sided and oh on biased opinion, what is his name????? Oh ya you must be his cousin, Bill O'reilly that's the guy you must trust. WTF


You bash what you want, it works for you, but I really hope you keep up what you do because you make alot of us laugh. Thanks w00t.gif

This was in response to "truthorder" what kind of name is that!!

Truthorder, Why does the left want the truth, and the "right" want to hide it???
fartmonkey65
QUOTE(TK0001 @ Apr 6 2006, 07:36 PM) [snapback]1136828[/snapback]

When first hearing he was the only suspect, Bin Laden proclaimed his innocence, and told Americans to look to their own government for answers.

So that was kind of an implication.

huh.gif Yeah and just how would he know.
Sunofone
bin laden was cia code named "tim osmand"-- bush sr and bin laden sr have long standing business connections in construction AND OIL-- follow the money and wake up-- a REAL "terrorist" would have targeted indian point nuclear facility and created an american chernobyl-- one plane actually flew over the facility and the other could have targeted it just as easily-- there was an agenda and it was all about "profit"
frenat
QUOTE(Sunofone @ Apr 10 2006, 09:59 PM) [snapback]1142446[/snapback]

bin laden was cia code named "tim osmand"-- bush sr and bin laden sr have long standing business connections in construction AND OIL-- follow the money and wake up-- a REAL "terrorist" would have targeted indian point nuclear facility and created an american chernobyl-- one plane actually flew over the facility and the other could have targeted it just as easily-- there was an agenda and it was all about "profit"


Many people don't believe that flying into a nuclear plant would cause as much damage as you might think.
http://www.911myths.com/html/911_nuclear_target.html
fartmonkey65
QUOTE(Sunofone @ Apr 10 2006, 10:59 PM) [snapback]1142446[/snapback]

bin laden was cia code named "tim osmand"-- bush sr and bin laden sr have long standing business connections in construction AND OIL-- follow the money and wake up-- a REAL "terrorist" would have targeted indian point nuclear facility and created an american chernobyl-- one plane actually flew over the facility and the other could have targeted it just as easily-- there was an agenda and it was all about "profit"

Bin Laden was attacking us because he hates America. Not because hes trying to create havoc though he was. He wanted to attack something that stands as a patriotic symbol aas well as a political one. The pentagon has political importance this is why he attacked it. Why would Bush want to blow up the Twin towers anyway. Oh yeah world domination rolleyes.gif .
Snowball
QUOTE(fartmonkey65 @ Apr 11 2006, 03:42 PM) [snapback]1142863[/snapback]

Bin Laden was attacking us because he hates America. Not because hes trying to create havoc though he was. He wanted to attack something that stands as a patriotic symbol aas well as a political one. The pentagon has political importance this is why he attacked it. Why would Bush want to blow up the Twin towers anyway. Oh yeah world domination rolleyes.gif .


Sounds to me like we have an C.I.A. Intelligence Expert on the board.
fartmonkey65
QUOTE(Snowball @ Apr 11 2006, 10:50 AM) [snapback]1142968[/snapback]

Sounds to me like we have an C.I.A. Intelligence Expert on the board.

rofl.gif Call me agent buttmonkey. The sniffer of cracks.
mklsgl
Thoughts and opinions don't require citation, facts and stats do.

-mkl
fartmonkey65
QUOTE(mklsgl @ Apr 14 2006, 01:35 PM) [snapback]1147468[/snapback]

Thoughts and opinions don't require citation, facts and stats do.

-mkl

Erm ok well i have no clue what you mean but......I do know that monkeys shall rule one day original.gif .
turbonium
QUOTE(kArin Spinn @ Apr 8 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]1139237[/snapback]

I dont understand why The "terrorists" attacked The Twin Towers, why not the Empire State building or the Statue Of Liberty, The main sign of America...There has to be a secret hidden from the public...


Because Larry Silverstein wasn't leasing them! user posted image
dmgspycat
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Apr 8 2006, 04:34 PM) [snapback]1139250[/snapback]

The Twin Towers had far more of a financial impact, the statue of liberty would be missed, but really it would not of had such a toll of lives lost and financial and investment companies destroyed.

As for OBL and his group not being able to know of an inside connection, how is it that people here seem to know about it, yet they cannot? Do we have people here that are are more connected and knowledgeable that all of the people of alqueda?




You all make the mistake of believing these 19 hijackers were all followers of Osama...havent you all heard the wife of one yet? She said her husband(one of the hijackers) worked for our government. These men were agents and dupes . You all are still missing a big link in all of this...Al queda means..."the database" a program containing the files of all the Mujahdeen rebels loyal to the CIA INCLUDING Bin Laden...whose family by the way has been doing business with the Bushes for over 20 years!

If you want to understand the how and the why...may I refer you to an article by the New York Times concerning the 1st Twin Tower bombing in 1993. The whole thing was engineered by the FBI using an Arab double Agent and dupes who did it for their own rerasons not knowing they were participating in a black-bag op. That piece can be gotten off the web...I dont have a link...but the whole story is documented in the Times including the court case. A real eye opener because the FBI told these men to follow through with it...but it was the double agent who came forward at that point to tell of thew FBIs plan and how they were involved. Really sick when the authoroties pull this kind of thing.

Im an average person ...all I did was pick up the paper and read it and I learned quite a bit from it. It doesnt make me an expert on 9-11 but that article gives me insight. The more constuctive facts that you put together the more coherent a picture you can draw.
Point is we have double agents doing dirty work for federal Agencys for different reasons including ,and not limited to, terrorism.
mklsgl
QUOTE(mklsgl @ Apr 14 2006, 01:35 PM)
Thoughts and opinions don't require citation, facts and stats do.
-mkl


"Erm ok well i have no clue what you mean but......I do know that monkeys shall rule one day"


- It was in response to posts #14, #15, #16, et al, which were arguing over "reputable" sources and citation. Does that clarify things for you, Mr. Monkey?

- And, Spinn, just read what Ms. Sibel Edmonds has to say about our "intelligence" and 9/11/01.
911 Revisited
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Apr 6 2006, 09:58 PM) [snapback]1136536[/snapback]

ive been wondering

many of you try and say 9/11 was atleast partially an inside job

if so, i am wondering why no one from Osama's circle has implicated anyone in our gov. ?

seems if our gov. took part in 9/11 Osama and them would want the connection to be made


I hate to do this, but I will anyway thumbsup.gif

Can you explain to me why the FBI doesn't list 9/11 as one of the crimes Usama Bin Laden is wanted for?

Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself... http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
rob lester
Not sure of source of this Video...I personally think it is b.s. , but watch it and decide ( or look for facts ) and judge for yourself original.gif

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&q=loose+change



here is a reply from our forums ( yes he works in the Whitehouse)

I work at the Whitehouse on the IT team. If everything on this video was true it would mean a massive amount of cordination between several agencies (in secrecy). I have a hard time just getting every one to show up at a meeting on time or replacing a server. The wheels of our government are not so well lubricated that we could ever pull something like this off without someone spilling the beans to the main stream press.

I watched on cable TV several shows on building demolitions. These efforts take months to plan and prepare for. I somehow doubt the planning and preparation went on in complete secrecy. There would have to be someone that confided in their wife/girlfriend. Hey.. I am going to take down the world trade center. Promise not to tell anyone. You know how that goes.

It did make for an entertaining video though and makes you wonder ...
frenat
QUOTE(911 Revisited @ Apr 23 2006, 11:16 AM) [snapback]1160331[/snapback]

I hate to do this, but I will anyway thumbsup.gif

Can you explain to me why the FBI doesn't list 9/11 as one of the crimes Usama Bin Laden is wanted for?

Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself... http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm


Possibly because that page is dated from June 1999? Only the poster has been updated since then. A good question then would be why has it not been updated recently?
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