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The Lost Gospel of Judas was mentioned today

Does anyone remember the story of how the illuminati power groups would release a counterfit religious text that has been lost for a long time during this time period. They will use this text as a stepping stone to destryoy christianity and form the one world spirituality.

I havent read it yet . I want(would like) and expect full participation in studying this and uncovering any agenda that its message might serve. I do know that it serves gnostic beliefs. I also want to know the publics opinions about the gnostic beliefs.

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Names Involved from the article:
Rodolphe Kasser, a clergyman and former professor in the Faculty of Arts at the University of Geneva in Switzerland.

Stephen Emmel, a Coptic studies professor at the University of Münster in Germany.

Bart Ehrman is chair of the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

Reverend Donald Senior, president of the Catholic Theological Union in Chicago, Illinois.

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Today is April 7th. Today is the day thet chose to release it. Relavent(sp) April 7th Event dates:

529 - First draft of Corpus Juris Civilis (a fundamental work in jurisprudence) is issued by Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian I.

1829 - Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commences translation of the Book of Mormon, with Oliver Cowdery as his scribe

1933 - The Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service, the first law meant to discriminate specifically against Jews is passed by the National Socialist regime in Germany.

1948 - The World Health Organization is established by the United Nations.

1954 - U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower gives his "domino theory" speech during a news conference.

1969 - The Internet's symbolic birth date: publication of RFC 1.

1980 - The United States severs diplomatic relations with Iran and imposes economic sanctions following the taking of American hostages on November 4, 1979.

2003 - US troops capture Baghdad; Saddam Hussein's regime falls two days later.



Have fun with this.. id rather watch this participate... i hope people participate.

are you just making this stuff up? I've never heard that...EVER


p.s. the illuminati is just an urban legend, hth

Thank you Congressman for bringing some Reality to this topic.

While every pseudo-detective goes looking for the Illuminati, corporations will own them, the water they drink and the air they breathe. Whoops!

Red herring anyone?

Does anyone think that a one world religion can be imposed on people? Look at Iraq, the most powerful military in the world can't subdue one puny little country to impose their economic system onto them let alone a religion!

Illuminati members post on this webforum. I But if you want to get technical, the illuminati doesnt exist, it's the illuminati agenda that thrives. OTO, FreeMasory, Rosicrucians, Templars, PNAC, NESARA?(This is a new one to me), The UN(haha.. but seriously... i can dig up the connections from this website.. its a gold mine of incriminating investigation)

Hey congressman here are some links for you to catch up on. Watch these short videos and come back and tell all of us what you think about them... not in general terms, but specifically the matters they address in detail. If you are serious about being uninformed then you should be in for a surprise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7DkSnhKkSk&search=illuminati
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJhpBRgZScI&search=illuminati
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpzZt5fXrXg&search=illuminati
youtube.com search illuminati

BTW... are you a REAL Government Official?

I agree. I have my beef with the corporations as well. I pay for water, my air is still free. Yes this whole illuminati thing may just be a diversion, but noone has forgotten about who our superficial enemies are. ... we are just still waiting for some kind of game plan.

Yes, a world relgion could be imposed on people using new spiritual information, half truths, and ego stimulating tactics. I am sure fear plays a roll too.

If you believe it is the american agenda to fix iraq your thinking too shallow.

Why would we want Iraq fixed? That would mean that we would have to leave? What! Leave??!! Not in a time like this. Everyone knows that the current Administration has its eye on Iran. North Korea, China, and Russia are still potential opposition to democracy and "freedom". To give up such military possitioning as Iraq would be strategicaly retarded. AND THAT IS WHY we are in Iraq indefinately.


Why would you be agaisnt a one world government and a unified spirituality anyway? Isnt unity better than diversity?


BUT LETS NOT FORGET THE MISSION OF THIS POST. SEARCH FOR AN AGENDA. IF NONE IS FOUND THEN AWSOME. AND DISCUSS PUBLIC OPINION OF GNOSTICISM(SP)... WHY IS IT GOOD, HOW COULD IT BE BAD?

No they don't, their playing you. If they were Illuminati members they wouldn't tell you.

Sometimes people think its fun to be part of a power group, even if its not real.

What does Freemasonry, OTO and Rosicrucians have to do with global takeover?

What does big business, the corporate elite have to do with global takeover?

Who has more money? Without the big bucks you can't rule the world, can you?

Look at the news, what brings ten even hundreds of thousands of people into the streets for protests? The Freemasons or Neoliberalism/Corporate Imperialism?

Go after the right ones.

Yes the Illuminati is real. It's a secret society, alive today. It may not be what you or everyone says or thinks it is, but it does exist. You have just been enlightened.

I thought illuminati didnt exist to you?
The member I am refering to was a rosicrucian. His entire message seperated all these occultist from any globalist agenda. I am not saying all of the occult organizations play a roll... that would be ignorant of me. but freemasons, pnac, and head officials of UN, and other unnamed occult groups... yes.. the play a roll.

What makes you so sure they wouldnt tell us they are affiliated?

Dont you know that the people who run our country are occultist? You think bush is a christian?

Dont you know that freemasons are occultist. These are all pyramid schemes. A common dark agenda lies at the top.

You seem to be seperating the two... i see them joined.

you turn.

I am not thinking too shallow. But now that I am sure you have a good head on your shoulders I can discuss the truth in Iraq which is just as you said.

They aren't trying to fix it, they aren't trying to bring democracy.

They are bringing neoliberal capitalism and permanent bases.

Their Plan A - Install a client government in Iraq. A government that will sell out to the IMF and allow bases to be built.

Plan B - Create a region wide conflict and start from scratch.

Plan B is a go but they do have quite a fight on their hands don't they? Now imagine if it was their religion they were trying to change not their economic market and bases.

capitolism is the enemy. your typing from an alias with jesus christ as your avatar. you should know this point of view. capitiolism is the enemy. 'satans' hold on the world.

plan B will go out of hand. and when it fails. a war should errupt between globalist and islamic facist. at least that is the plan. what is sad is the way it will start... it will start the same way the iraq war started. with mass deception and the sacrifice of human lives...

just like 911.

The Illuminati don't exist to me unless by Illuminati you mean the Business Elite or Neoliberals. People don't protest against occult groups but they hit the streets when the WTO come to town.

What makes me sure "they wouldnt tell us they are affiliated" if they did exist? They don't need to. Occultists are pretty good with secrets

But people looking for attention aren't. Not to mention I could blow some serious holes into their "proof", but I am not looking for a confrontation but I will respond to one if one arises.

The people that run most countries are corporatists and I know Bush isn't a Christian just like the Pope. They seek money, power and influence not salvation through knowledge.

I know what occultists are as it is a term that I don't mind people loosely associating with me.

You must seperate them to know who is stealing our lives away.

The most important thing to know, truly know, is that the occult isn't one path but many paths. Some lead to "evil" and others lead to "good". The occult empowers you but it is not specifically good or bad, it is the occultist that makes that decision. I have made mine.

"Know them by their fruits."

Satan was created by the Church(I did notice your quotations) but satan means adversary. So yes the adversary has gotten ahold of the world, a long time ago. Who they are changes through history but one thing stays the same, they use deception, fear and violence to take what is not theirs. The truth doesn't need to threaten, it doesn't need to be shoved down your throat.

As for Plan B. I totally agree with you. Sadly I feel it won't be long now

"with mass deception", yes the media are accomplices to that deception. Are they the Illuminati? Are they occultists? No but they do listen to money like the others.

Business Elite or Neoliberals and neo capitolist and globalists. anyone who wants to play god by imposing their will on the natural unfolding of humanity's story. They are driven by occultist.

I believe ANY occult group belonging to a pyramid structure serves the dark agenda in some manner. Otherwise why the secret? What the secrets? noone ever answers me. why the secrets.
why protect people from their spirituality?

to fool you (the occultist) thats why... just like the dark agenda that has infiltrated american christianity... they are being fooled...


And yes. they are occultist.. freemasons are occultist... and that is just mainstream groups. There are groups that i dont know about. But they are occultist. Skull and Bones are occultist. They are puppets..

Thats right.

They are driven by money. They worship it and power. If that is how you see the occult, then so be it.



Why the secrets, because everyone is not the same. What one might accept another will reject. That is why it is left up to the individual to seek it out on their own.



As I said the occult doesn't mean evil. But an occultist who seeks power through whatever means neccessary can be termed evil.

The occult is a tool like a gun. Is the gun itself evil? Can it be used for evil? If armed men were invading your house with your family in it and you had a gun, would you use it? If so and you saved your family does that make you evil for using a tool that can also be used for evil?

The occult is like nature, it uses the same energies and laws as nature does. Is nature evil? Is nature good? Is a tornado that kills hundreds of people evil? No, but if man harnessed the power of nature and used it against others for his own gain that would be evil.

To be clear I have never taken an oath to secrecy but over time I have learned that trying to show others the true nature of things results in my pearls being trampled under foot. So I have become secretive because of others.

what group and what do you mean by pearls? are you required to take oaths? i know mansons are.

I see no reason to drop names, how would that change anything? Would it make what I say more truthful? I will however state that I have been a member of certain groups but I don't believe joining a group makes you one of them, it is your actions and who you are that judgeth you. I have learned more on my own through gnosis.

By pearls I mean....

Jesus said, "Do not give what is holy to dogs, lest they throw them on the dung-heap. Do not throw the pearls to swine, lest they trample it under foot."

"They(Hermeticists) reserve the 'strong meat for men,' while others furnish the 'milk for babes.' They reserve their pearls of wisdom for the few elect, who recognize their value and who wear them in their crowns, instead of casting them before the materialistic vulgar swine, who would trample them in the mud and mix them with their disgusting mental food." -- Three Initiates

It isn't meant to be taken literally. Just as the "pearls" aren't pearls, the "swine" aren't swine. But it means not all should know what some do know.

Why should some know but not others?

Jesus said, "He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in."

Jesus did not come to save the world. For most do not even know what he came to save them from but rather...

Jesus said, "The kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. One of them, the largest, went astray. He left the ninety-nine sheep and looked for that one until he found it. When he had gone to such trouble, he said to the sheep, 'I care for you more than the ninety-nine.'"

I believe the answer is whatever swine happen to be around, hermit.

The answer to which question exactly?

Anyone know where to get an english translation ? I would really like to read this gospel of Judas.

Hello Xenojjin, the Gospel of Judas is set for an Easter publication.

Exactly when and where it will be available I'm not sure but National Geographic is airing a show on the Gospel tonight I believe.

I'm curious to what it says. Where can I read it?

But also here's evidence that the bible is complete and inspired in such a way that it bears witness of itself being true.
www.biblewheel.com

i am willing to bet this book is part of an organized deception. reading critically isnt a bad thing.




I have been watching this thing on History channel and all they are talking about is its validity. its really going overboard to make this seem legit. like the professionals standing around a table, and a 3rd party person pushing its remains in front of them like its a stack of chips at a poker tournament... then cut scene to different subject. its not saying barely anything about content. (besides jesus told judas to sell him out).
even the meeting between professionals is scripted in such a simplistic way. some commentary here and there about how it shouldnt be a fake. some talking about how it is real. and an attempt at an explanation to why it has no orgin and how it has just appeared out of nowhere.

*note... i am going to be playiong the opposition here to secure the truth. dont get mad for my skepticical position.

this justified the end justify the means mentality. deception is ok. but im overboard a lil i hope you people correct me

What? the Gospel of Judas? I think so too.
The Gospel of John and the Epistle of St Jude