Icke deserves a straight jacket. Thats about it.

Hi All, I'm new to this board, so I'll try to be brief. There are a couple of things here that caught enough of my attention to post upon. The first was the number of skeptics and the second was the potential of an alternate society, (in this case reptiles) running the planet from within.

A note to the skeptics. When I was much younger, I fantasized about the possibility of antigravity. I though it would be an excellent replacement for current energy shortages of the times (this was in the gas crises of the 70's) and would be a source of unlimited potential to visit other stars. When I suggested this to my science teachers, they of course laughed and said it was not possible etc..etc and to a large extent I took a fair amount of ridicule from these teachers and other students because of my firm belief that it may be possible to work gravity into a method of propulsion. Now to cut this short, as skeptics often have a short attention span, I invite you to google both "The Nazi Bell" and Einsteins UTF Theory. Needless to say, I'd really love to run into those science teachers now.

Secondly with regard to reptiles running the world from within. It is often related by theorists that if not for some HUGE impact to the earth some many millennium ago, the reptiles would still be the dominant species on this planet. It was, (as I understand) an impact of an asteroid that pushed a few billion tons of dust into the air, with a large amount of iridium in it. This caused a greenhouse effect, trapping in the heat and pretty much wiped out the reptiles of the time. After all, reptiles don't sweat the way humans do. So if not for one freak asteroid, we may very well have been those reptiles running this planet today.

It does seem that in all eras of mankind, we scoff at the outrageous because it isn't what we have been taught. But who says what we have been taught is true?

Are flying machines really going to happen?..or maybe one day we'll cook our food with sound. Or maybe ...just like Dick Tracy we'll be able to have a watch phone? (I'm being sarcastic here) All of these are true today. And at one point all of these would generate the same type of ridicule I received for my antigravity pursuit. So maybe there really is a reptile group running the world, behind the scenes, ever wonder why cars run on 60 year old technology? or why is electricity so hard to make when it's all around us all the time?

thanks for your time in reading this
..Ex

Don't sugar-coat it eric!.....Tell us how you really feel about Icke?

Well, after all it does seem accurate. My opinion of Mr. Icke is something along the lines of this.

Icke needs to be given a cup of tea, and gently restrained until the men in white coats can take him for more appropriate treatment.

Anti-gravity? Demonstrate a practical working model and investors around the world will be begging to throw money at you.

Somehow - and pardon my skepticism - I don't see any purveyor of anti-gravity devices becoming rich in the near future.

Or this...

That's got to be it...Icke is *one of them!*

*Enter*

I never payed him any attention.

Then one day someone sent me one of his e-books, not sure which one.

He wrote about an experience he had in peru or chile or something like that.

My jaw dropped because the same thing happened to me, except it happened in my room.

I will not elaborate, if you have read my posts you may be able to tell of what I speak, but I really don't want to connect myself to Icke lol.

I have confidence in him since that, but I still have not read any of his stuff except from above^ and I haven't watched anything by him either.


I just feel that I don't need anyone else telling me what I can find out on my own.
I tend to trust myself over all other people...

He has credibility in my eyes

-Muddy

someone that does a 7 hour talk and 2000 odd people turn up means david icke is insane and 2000 people. GET A GRIP!! claimed he was the messiah because he was having a severe awakening.

I take it the same as someone being abducted by beings from outer space as he trys to tell people that it happened and everyone mocks and laughs at him, kinda like independence day.

1 thing about icke is he is consistent and has done his research! if you follow the information where it goes, then something is going on.

Well, I think that the universe is holographic, and what universe we live in is very much determined by ourselves. So, in David Icke's world, mean, scary, bloodcurdling reptilian shape-shifters are probably running the world. In my universe, it is just good old greedy, power-hungry, intolerant, cruel and selfish people trying to run the world. Not reptilians, not illuminati, not satanists...

The problem is that we have an incredibly hard time to accept the sheer banality of human motivations that result in such 'evil' in our world. There are no monsters out there; there's just us.


I don't know which universe I feel more sorry for though, Icke's or mine...!

I think Icke is very intelligent, and that's why he's so successful at what he does. Everything is calculated to work into what people want to believe. I've read plenty on Icke and seen a few videos (mostly biased in a positive way towards Icke), and the skill at which he ties modern events into lore as well as history is quite amazing. That's my take: Not crazy, just very smart and cunning. The motivations are probably mostly $ and I'm sure the fame is a nice bonus. Frankly he deserves both for his efforts, what he doesn't deserve is anyone's belief.

I would like to give him a nice smack in the face for ripping people's money off for all these years.

I personally think, and in my opinion, that David Icke is an intelligent figure and has proved with his research and numerous references and evidence he has compiled of the years to certain aspects of what he is saying is quite valid.

I mean the whole notion of trying to grasp onto the "reptillian" side of things is hard to take in. But if one opens his/her mind it wouldnt be all that of a surprise. I mean years ago people had a hard time believing that one day computers will be in every household and business, just to name an example, yet this came true. Im not sitting here and saying that the reptillians are true, im just trying to see David Ickes side of things.

With today's corruption including media and governments, it would be very hard to believe some aspects of what Icke is saying. But the truth is Media & Government corruption does exist and both elements at hand with each other would be a useful tool to brainwash people into laughing at such topics.

There is numerous evidence to suggest that "beings" outside this realm we call earth could or definitely exist. Evidence dating back to the ancients which David Icke states with fact in numerous books he has wrote are quite valid. Then we have the numerous UFO Sightings not only from NASA live feeds but normal ordinary people that claim, and some back it up with photos or video, that UFO's do exist. Take a look at the Phoenix lights.

Anyway thats just my opinion

Zoo York

You can't seperate the reptiallian craziness from the rest of his so called theories. If he is this looney then we throw out everything.

And there is no evidence of such beings by anyone that is credible.

Well in all honesty, you only need to take a look at Roswell and the numerous people who came forward including Colonels that have been on record in saying that aliens were definitely in the wreckage. And what about the Phoenix lights? thats not some what normal that 100's of people witnessed a triangle like craft and that the lights were even recorded by a Doctor with her hand held video camera. Who was driving these obviously far more technologically advanced craft that what we see today? The reports by numerous people have said that it moved silently without any noise. Now if it was a plane it would have made alot of noise with the large engines that the planes have. So thus beings outside of this planet would definitely exist.

If its not Extraterrestrials and just a government secret project, then some aspects of what David Icke is true, that if secret projects exist then such secret societies exists, covertly exercising such projects and engineering feats, but i really doubt that was a government project of some sort, but then again i maybe wrong.

Zoo York

Oh man, I keep joking about writing my own book about aliens who can mimic humans and are running the planet. I've held back because I know no one would believe it and it would be a waste of time.

But the way some people still buy into Icke's BS then maybe I should write it after all. Who cares if thinking people know it's BS. At least the gullible will keep my pockets full.

I have never said that i believe in what David Icke talks about in this books about "reptillians". Like i said a few posts back its very hard to believe in shapeshifting reptillians and so on and so forth. But in saying that the facts he has stated about extraterrestrials being mentioned in the ancient world is quite mind boggling. Im more interested in what the ancients wrote about the extraterrestrials, and what David Icke has said about "reptillians" and there "shapeshifting" form is just hard for me to grasp.

The ancient Egyptian and Assyrian tablets have talked and have been depicted in picture form of Extraterrestrial crafts and beings. This itself is such an amazing piece of evidence to suggest that ET's do in fact exists due to the compelling evidence from not only the ancient Egyptians and Assyrians but from other ancients such as the aztecs etc.....

I can not believe that we are the only civilization in this universe. Scientists are finding new planets and only recently have they found that water on Mars had existed.

Zoo York

Jesus was supposed to be the Messiah, Icke claimed Jesus was a fake. Yet, here he is claiming that he is the Messiah himself!!! - I wonder what he would think if somebody else did the same to him

What is that bit in the Bible about "many will come in my name" but they are supposed to be fakes themselves?

He appears to brush other's off and yet proclaim himself as "The One"

It's enough to make me want to smoke 10 cigarettes all at once!!!

None of what you stated proves anyting. Roswell has never been totally proven real or hoax. Hey, if you want to throw away your money and credibility then buy his books.

Never mind 'shapeshifting' reptiles....what about plain old reptilian hybrids.

I mean US!

'There are no monsters out there; there's just us.'

I think that we, the human race, are very reptilian like...a kind of reptilian/amphibious/ape cross.

We are so familiar with what we look like that...in a way we can't see ourselves.

I'm not a nutcase (I promise you ) but just try this....hold your arm out and stare around the back of your hand
do it for a while...now when I do this..I see the hand of a reptile ish creature.

Maybe I just need to get out more!!! BUT......well if anyone else gets this spooky effect...let me know.

i think david icke is a lunatic as he said that the isle of man

would disapear by 2004 still there ( let me check )

We could find him a special jacket with extra long sleeves

& that button up the back & a special room with no sharpe objects

I see you haven't changed your mind on David Icke...you still want him locked up!! (one year later)

Give the man a break....they're only words....only ideas....only beliefs.

If everyone who ever dared to stretch the boundries (whether they're right or wrong) of thought, were locked up in straight jackets....well...the membership of this forum would be some-what reduced for a start!

David Icke is WAAAAAAY down on the list of people who are doing harm in this world.

In fact IS he doing any harm at all? I don't think so.

Computers are technology moving forward, it's things you can produce - a reptillian species living amongst us - that's biology. The one is cogs and chips, the other flesh and bone - the two are incomparable.

The Wogan interview was hillarious, I think David Ike is a really good salesman, but what he's selling is absurd.

you should get that checked out! People are not supposed to have scales.

David Icke was right...

Bee IS a reptillian...

what can I say...rumbled!

But have you tried the staring at your hand thing?....it's best if you pull your sleeve up.

PS I don't have scales! I'm not THAT kind of reptilian

Well I have a Bearded Dragon Lizard, considering she's missing a bunch of her nails they aren't too similar. Maybe a little more so in the winter time when I'm in serious need of moisturizer.
(see a missing nail and a messy mango mouth here, full view here)

She has me spending more time on her food prep than my own. I keep her "houses" much cleaner. She's staring at me intently as I'm writing this... If anything can come from his theories, I'm sure looking suspiciously at my lizard right now.

I am looking at my hand right now.

To be honest I see exactly what you mean.

I just had to mess with you though.


Just a theory, well a thought I should say...
Couldn't all this reptile stuff be coming from our own subconscious... We did evolve from reptiles, so couldn't cellular memory play a part. It's so deep down that if you find it, it feels mystical.

-Indians(from india) have the whole snake thing... Kundalini... coiled serpent
-South american indians use a drink containing DMT (occures in the human brain inately), that casues them to see reptillians that claim to be the rulers/rightful owners of earth.
-the bible(I am not religous lol) talks about the serpent in the garden of eden/satan...

Mabey all this "mystical" stuff is just hard to access memories...
I have done my fair share of meditation, and let me tell you, my subconscious scares the SH#& out of me.
You find all kinds of things that logically shouldn't be there.
Mabey that's where these ideas come from...

anyway just a theory...





-Muddy

Spooky eh?




I take your point....although I think that the reptile/amphibian link in us humans...may come from alien/other dimension genes that we got in very ancient times.

Although David Icke talked about reptiles and the royal family etc.....I think we may ALL have it to an extent! (not necessarily in the way he thinks)

There is something very odd about the human race...we don't seem to fit in with the earths eco system like other creatures do....

Icke's a looper, plain and simple.
And don't bother crying skeptic, 'cos I'm not. I'm wiccan and KNOW the world is stranger than it seems.
(Oh just noticed that Gardiner is a Annukki- lol I must be a reptillian baby eating disinformationist!!).
Don't bother trying to bait me I reeealy don't care what you think..........

Good Morning, TwilightSilver; any new good movies out now with Christopher Walken?

David Icke is my hero, and I'm not afraid to say so. I posted on a couple threads that when I first bought David Icke's book "Children of the Matrix" a few years ago, I opened the first page, read it, and closed the book for another year. This past year I re-opened it and read the whole book. Half of the people who criticize David Icke have never even read any of his books. when I was first introduced to the ideas of David Icke, in all honesty I thought to myself "This guy is a nut." But as years passed, I began to hear his same ideas being spoken by other people, I began to read articles which seemed to point to conspiracies he talks about, and I began to come across case after case of people seeing these Reptilians so often discussed by not only David Icke but also the great John Lash, Mary Sutherland, Laird Scranton, and other important people in the ufo/alien community.

I had a friend who told me the same thing recently that I experienced. She said "Isis, I used to think David Icke was a kook, but now I think what he's saying makes a lot of sense."

Good for you Isis2200!

I don't hold any hard and fast opinions on David Icke, as I don't know enough about his ideas.

But so many people feel they have the right to knock him and mock him without even taking the trouble to find out what he is actually saying...in context.

But then that's the same for all mind-expanding thinkers. People get dismissive and angry with them. In fact, when someone's ideas really make people antagonistic, you could say, that this is a sign they could be onto something.

Wow. All I can say is wow. I knew you were out there, but I will never be able to look at one your posts with any seriousness. To me you have lost any and all crediblitiy. Rather sad.

I have read a couple of his books years ago. They were absolute rubbish.

Fair comment, as you have read a couple of books.

I read his books.
Before I did I thought he was slightly strange but I was open-minded about what he had to say. Sadly they were the deranged rantings of a diseased mind, He's a looper or an extremely shrewd fake.

Mr icke has schizophrenic tendancies. But luckily for him there are also a lot of people with schizophrenic tendancies out there willing to listen to him.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_an.../reptiles14.htm




......>>>>some research...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread186145/pg1

ALIENS AND THE BIBLE -- CAN BOTH CO-EXIST?
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/erthbrn1.html


"Terra Papers: The Hidden History of Planet Earth"

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_ali...a_alien_20a.htm

Red, one of the things Icke says is that all the top families are all related and that their bloodlines can be traced back through all major power centres to British empire, roman empire,Philip of Macedonia, egypt to Sumeria and annunaki. Have you ever seen a link or any sort of evidence of the bloodline or is it just pure speculation and 2+2=1892673. I have watched all his vids and done a bit of research but not seen anything yet.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...s+He+Right%253F

http://www.newsforthesoul.com/icke.htm


I do love my Cable TV though!!!

Are we being hypnotised???

We are in a way conditioned from birth... it's called socializing.. fitting in.... being told what is real and what is not... how we are to percieve and experience this world.... what we are told to believe.. or what we are to focus on as our reality/.// is also what their parents told our parents how things are to be....

Yet ... have you noticed that with the advent of television... technology... the imaginable is becoming tomorrows reality!!!! Who knows... Our grandchildren may yet have aliens as playmates...live on the moon...etc...

Things are changing.... and changing fast!!! LOL... maybe finally too fast for the Men in Black to catch up with everything!!! Somethings going to get out eventually... some irrefutable proof... and then....the governments are going to finally shamefacedly going to admit to many coverups.... and go into politcal rehab programs... and all will be forgiven... and life will go on!!!!

...Here's support for David Ickes theories....


The Creation of the Shepherd Kings


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_hammadi_library ????
They tell us that a body of trained masters from Mu, called Naacals, were carrying to ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_Kingdom






http://www.revelation2seven.org/WebPages/S...TheAmericas.htm

This "support" is religious mythology (completely faith based). These beliefs, while interesting, do not provide empirical evidence for the claims Mr. Icke makes.

Mr Icke, ex sports presentator on ITV (or was it the BBC). Doesn't he believe that wearing Purple Coloured tracksuits will lead to some sort of enlightenment? The man is without credibility.

Quite correct. The man is a flagrent fraud.

The CORRECT colour for track-suite enlghtenment is Orange - as everyone knows.

Meow Purr

I'd just like to take the opportunity to say that I love David Icke and think he is a hero of our times. Thank you david with all sincerity for existing and sharing your knowledge with us in the face of mass criticism.

I read one of his books ..found it quite informative...sometimes when you dont like the message; you just shoot the messenger?..

Most of this world don't seem to require 'empirical evidence' the justify... or excuse them to start wars... persecute and maim, pillage .. steal kill.... in the name of religion... bibles... faiths... and yet surprisingly get away with it!!!!..

In today's world where 'empirical evidence' seems to be necessary to validate any new idea ... or thought... otherwise it is totally dismissed...

go figure!!!!

Do you think our grandkids will ever see the day when this sort of war is no longer tollerated???

I really can't understand why the world stands aside and allows this????

Surely there must be a way where there are peacefully resolve all these issues... stop all bullies in their tracks... just because no-one will pick up a weapon to support them.,...

Sorry... I rant... many things in this world puzzle me....

most "learnt" people know that jesus is a fictional plagarized character, his story is neither orginal nor unique.

icke mixes falsehoods with truths, he's dead on about the illuminati and new world order and some history, the reptilian shape shifiting stuff is off and so is other half of his history.

There is no David Icke...It's just an illusion.

it all an illusion controlled by this