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Nie
I strated this topic because of the following questions:
1)Did the egyptian had enough knowledge to build structues like the piramids?
2)Is there any conection between South American Cultures (Mayans, Olmecs) and the Egyptian Culture (construction, mythology...)
3)Can Atlantis be put in the midle of these two cultures?

I think that there is some sort of conection betwen these two cultures, see for yourself:

See for yourself
greychupa
The Egypt pyramid, South-American Inca, Hopi, Maya cities were built with the help and technical knowledge of extra-terrestrials.
Atleast thats my vision.
Nie
I think there is no need to be an alien intervencion to the piramids.
My theory is that those cultures got the knowledge from the same source, Atlantis!
Plato got the knowledge about atlantis from Solon, and Solon from an egyptian priest. This priest (Senchis of Sais) talked about the clamity who almost destroyed the human race in older ages and he talked about a great civilization in the middle of the great sea.
If the egyptians had this knowledge i think it is because they had relations in the begining of times with the Atlantican people. The mumies with cocain... cocain was only brought to Europe and middle east in the 16th century and it is native from south america.
Please, i would like to know what you think thumbsup.gif
antares
According to the "Story of Atlantis & the Lost Lemuria" and"Legends of Atlantis and Lost Lemuria" by W. Elliott-Scott after Atlantis was destroyed only few hundred people on 4-5 ships survived. Half of them went to Egypt and started the Ancient Egyptian civilization and the rest reached the coast of America. According to Solara in "Legend of Altazar" the survivors from Atlantis never reached America and all traveled to Egypt and gave their profound knowledge to the priests.
Cufflink
Writer Graham Hancock has been developing a theory (with growing evidence), that a sea-faring civilization existed 10,000 years ago. This theory accounts for many similar cultural traits in different continents.


http://www.grahamhancock.com/
Kryso
QUOTE (Nie @ Sep 24 2003, 07:19 AM)

1)Did the egyptian had enough knowledge to build structues like the piramids?

That’s an interesting question, because obviously any culture could pile a thousand tons of stone on top of each other. But that’s not really the question, its what lies inside. Some of their tunnels are directed precisely towards different consternations. Being so exacts that even with today’s instruments it would have been difficult. Also if you follow the four sides of a pyramid straight up, then it makes an exact, down to the millimetre copy of itself!
And as you say different groups around the world. It seems something has been lost along the way. Mayans made walls so perfect and interlocking that they are still standing today. And with are so-called superior technology, we would be lucky to have a wall standing after 50 years, and that’s with adhesive!
Most of the ancient buildings and drawings scratched into the ground had meaning, even if those who built them didn’t understand it themselves. Because most objects could only be understood from above, and most of these culture had no means to look down upon it from a few hundred feet, more-or-less a thousand!
Everything from certain time periods has a kind of universal unity.
I strongly believe that Atlantis existed. And who knows, possibly they travelled extensively to different cultures, and tried to teach them what they knew! For all we know Atlantis could have been a warring nation (in the same sense Rome was known for its beauty and culture and teachings, but they were also warring!) and had many different lands under its control, until it disappeared! And like any conquering nation if left a residue of itself scattered all over the earth, which ultimately was absorbed by the different peoples, to accommodate their own style?
dancin'hamster
I'm with Graham Hancock on this one..........I can recommend 'Fingerprints Of The Gods' to anyone who is interested in Egypt & the Mayans.

Hammy x x x
Engulf
QUOTE (greychupa @ Sep 24 2003, 02:08 PM)
The Egypt pyramid, South-American Inca, Hopi, Maya cities were built with the help and technical knowledge of extra-terrestrials.
Atleast thats my vision.

Exactly, that's whats in my head too greychupa. thumbsup.gif

well Nie since you said the Egyptians were digging ideas from the people of Atlantis about this pyramid thing,now could an ET race actually helped the Atlantis people in the first place?then passed down to many others again?

sorry but i'm a little stubborn here sad.gif .just that still i don't see any early civ. here on Earth are capable of doing any miracle that advanced.
Nie
Nice point there Engulf... never realy thought bout that... hmm....
I never thought if the Atlantis "made" their knowledge or received it!
but if knowledge came from an extraterrestrial inteligence there is still on question: Why?
They could have thaught them how to build cars, electric power plants or planes, but no... lets make them build piramids and used them for burial sites. Why make them build pyramids...
It looks like a megalomanous human project
Potholer
I don't think you should underestimate the abilities and intellignece of ancient civilisations. I can't really talk with any weight behind my words because I don't know enough but I still believe you can't jsut pass off such things as some extra-terrestials project. Just because they (ancient civilisations) didn't have modern technology doesn't mean they were totally inept or un-intelligent.

I agree with Nie - why would they teach something like pyramids when there is so much else?
Celumnaz
Yeah, I lean towards the Fingerprints of the Gods too...


http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/Ancient.....blood.Mar.html

Has a brief intro to the idea...
antares
QUOTE (Nie @ Sep 26 2003, 03:40 AM)
I never thought if the Atlantis "made" their knowledge or received it!
but if knowledge came from an extraterrestrial inteligence there is still on question: Why?

For those of you who want to put in prospective Atlantis, Lemuria and all ancient civilizations before them, I strongly recommend the book I mentioned early in this discussion "Story of Atlantis & the Lost Lemuria" by W. Elliott-Scott. In my opinion it answers a lot of questions about the history of human kind, did ET inteligence gave us any knowledge, etc.

Engulf
QUOTE (Nie @ Sep 26 2003, 09:40 AM)
Nice point there Engulf... never realy thought bout that... hmm....
I never thought if the Atlantis "made" their knowledge or received it!
but if knowledge came from an extraterrestrial inteligence there is still on question: Why?
They could have thaught them how to build cars, electric power plants or planes, but no... lets make them build piramids and used them for burial sites. Why make them build pyramids...
It looks like a megalomanous human project

well i'm not too sure too but say if.....ok,say if you're the ET.and if you've found some other unknown living race in some other planet whose really really primitively stupid and wish to teach them at least a few basic things for the real deal.now would you teach them straight away the techs of planes,floating crafts, other super-advanced theories etc...??

i dunno about you (maybe you're very kind original.gif ),but if i were you or the ET,i would rather go for just the basics to start off.i wouldn't wanna give all my stuff to them,the least maybe i could exchange for some fortune right?what if 'these' primitive people took our teachings, get really used to it, progress quickly with it and backstabbed our ET race due to the massive super modern tech that they've achieved in just such a short period?would that make them feel superior,powerful or even like a God and return our favor with an extinction to our race?we really don't know much about them,or thier real personality....so why would i give them every one of my techs??right?wouldn't it be wiser if i would....do some checking on them first before i throw in my goods and create a bond with them?

we certainly could see here on Earth i mean let's face it,there are millions of these 'backstabbers' living in this world and from that we've to be cautious when dealing with this people.so if you would imply this theory into the ET-human thing.....why not right?

they've not known how quick is our progress in technology so they've decided to just give us the simplest of technology (eg pyramids) and then experiment how far do we make our progress in this.who knows,maybe if the ET people never did shared thier knowledge,we could still be leaving in caves?? dontgetit.gif

and that could be shown in nowadays sightings.remember the ufo-concorde sighting?that's just one of them to show you that they're still observing us and probably waiting for the right time before they could befriend us.

what do you guys think of this?i maybe crapping but my thoughts are strongly based on this.
Engulf
QUOTE (Potholer @ Sep 26 2003, 11:26 AM)
I don't think you should underestimate the abilities and intellignece of ancient civilisations. I can't really talk with any weight behind my words because I don't know enough but I still believe you can't jsut pass off such things as some extra-terrestials project. Just because they (ancient civilisations) didn't have modern technology doesn't mean they were totally inept or un-intelligent.

I agree with Nie - why would they teach something like pyramids when there is so much else?

well if i'm not mistaken,pyramids are just the right stuff because it's simple (like i've said before it's a pain in the -hole with everyone using only thier arms and legs to do this but maybe in the ET's perspective) and it has alot,i mean way alot of benefits from it.astrology,architecturing,maths (calculations) and tonnes of other stuff we could learn from the construction of this buildings.think of it,maybe you would see the pyramids as a great achievement in architecturing ( i do too thumbsup.gif ) but right now during modern times,it would a no prob job to build a pyramid.right now we have machines, and all lots more of advanced stuff to finish the job quickly.

i dunno about the 'there is so much else' stuff that you meant though but all i know is pyramids are simply....or even the greatest thing to get our ancestors on thier way to building up a super great future like what we are feeling today and the days to come..... thumbsup.gif
Nie
I understand you message and point of view Engulf.

It is not possible to reach a decision because there is no proof, were totally blind. could've been trough study, aliens, the piramid disease, mass histeria, ect... (ok, forget mass histeria...), were on a theory base here ( i read an article about the piramids beeing built with telepaty... 15 ton stones moved with brain power)

Has i said, there are no writen documents from that time, no photos or videos (they didn't had internet i think...) and we cant say how did they get the knowledge!

We only know that those cultures (separated by an ocean)HAD the knowledge.
Engulf
yup Nie,although i'm sticking to this claims,yet i can't confirm anything because there's just not enough (actually not at all sad.gif ) proof to convince anyone. sad.gif sad.gif

QUOTE
( i read an article about the piramids beeing built with telepaty... 15 ton stones moved with brain power)


fooh,that could cost a migraine up till 2 full days man!! grin2.gif

anyway Nie have you read about the front page news of this site,i meant the time travelling possible thing?well maybe this could help solve the mystery of our past thumbsup.gif
Nie
That can make anyone think for a while hem?
Time traveling, oh men, its one of those dilemas... You mean, if in the future we could have timetraveling capability, we would go back an help ourselfs evolve?
Maybe we are the greys relatives hem?
its one of those things, but i cant really say its impossible.In 1500 no one could have thought about traveling to the moon...
Engulf
QUOTE (Nie @ Sep 27 2003, 02:42 PM)
You mean, if in the future we could have timetraveling capability, we would go back an help ourselfs evolve?
Maybe we are the greys relatives hem?

maybe this greys that are visiting us now are our future too.they come back here to help us and then later we go back in time to help our ancestors.....is there a mystery here?i feel something wierd here.... ph34r.gif
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