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You can even see the flag in one of those....

due what dnt u get aout the idea of it being staged? it wasnt real, well it was real but not on the moon. dude im more air born than neil armstrong when im asleep. they staged it.

My understanding was that the hubbles camera aperature was too large to allow it to take photos of objects as bright as the mood. The photo seems more like a photo taken with an earth bound large telescope.

That being said, we did land on the moon. All of the issues brought up by the skeptics have been debunked time after time, to the point where people know them by heart.

What don't you get about it being real?

The picture on the left was taken by an Observatory in earth...Hubble does not take pics of the moon. The other two look like they were taken by the Astronauts themselves...

Is it just me or is there a spooky face on the left hand image?

I think I can make out dark eye sockets and a face.

And why haven't we photographed them? There are six landing sites scattered across the Moon. They always face Earth, always in plain view. Surely the Hubble Space Telescope could photograph the rovers and other things astronauts left behind. Right?

Wrong. Not even Hubble can do it. The Moon is 384,400 km away. At that distance, the smallest things Hubble can distinguish are about 60 meters wide. The biggest piece of left-behind Apollo equipment is only 9 meters across and thus smaller than a single pixel in a Hubble image.

Better pictures are coming. In 2008 NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter will carry a powerful modern camera into low orbit over the Moon's surface. Its primary mission is not to photograph old Apollo landing sites, but it will photograph them, many times, providing the first recognizable images of Apollo relics since 1972.

Abandoned Spaceships

ok...with pictures of the landing sites...how could there still be room left for people to argue it never happened? I guess maybe saying the pix of the landing places were falsified...(don't give them any ideas Glacies! sorry...)

Pax Unum is right...

Well the pics at the top of the thread are Fake with out a doubt, We should all know that.

Fluffy is 100 % correct Hubble can't take those pics.

THE MOON is way to close for hubble, it would be like taking a pic of yourself with the camera on your nose x 10.

A valid point. yet my point of, if pictures of the landing sites are out there (which i'm sure there must be) why does the debate persist?

Show me some.

There are none.

This is a ridiculous topic.

So many of the people that say there is no way we got to the moon are the same people that talk about aliens truly visiting earth. If an alien spacecraft can travel hundreds of lightyears to anal probe john smith from brazil why can't we go to the moon.

I understand there are arguments like the radiation belt and other such arguments ie the scratches on the cameras but all of them have been explained reasonably. supposedly the Europeans are planning to go to the moon some time the next five years will you claim that that to is a fake. get real

I never said that we "man" has never been to the moon.

All I asked, wait I didn't even ask, but what the hell, we can look back in time to the almost birth of the cosmos, we can see liquid water on moons of other planets we can see comets from millions and millions of miles away we can see the rotation of planets around stars,but we don't have pics that can show/prove the numerous landings on the moon?

at my observatory here, we have a 42inch scope, and we can see the flag on the moon. so hush please

I don´t think those pics are from hubble. The angle of the one showing the lunar vehicle is ridiculous. It show the horizon...

Besides, it was said by nasa itself that hubble and/or any other telescope on earth are not capable of photograph the landing vehicle or the flag.

They could take pics of the landing area, not objects in that area with such detail.

Unfortunately there is no caption or original source for the picture in the original post.

There are 3 different images here. The image on the left is a Hubble image. The image top right is an Apollo image taken by one of the astronauts. I'm not sure about the image bottom right. It could be a Hubble image but looks more likely to have been taken from lunar orbit to me.

Not that anyone cares...but I am a firm believer that we never landed on the moon. Reading up on both sides of the spectrum, I have to say that I personally feel that there are too many descripencies and inconsistancies with the lunar landing. This is obviously a topic that will not influence our lives at all, but it is fun to look at both sides and decide for yourself what you believe truly happened.

who knows lol. This will never be confirmed. The first man to step foot on the moon(armstrong) was part of a freemasonry as was bill clinton, DeMolay International it is called. lol. who knows if they even went to the moon in the first place, although i would love to go:(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeMolay_International

Hi Waspie. I know. When I said pics, I just generalized my comment. My objective is to point that the image showing the lunar vehicle has a low angle that shows the horizon, like a panorama image. And to add that no US flag or lunar lander can be ssen from earth. Nasa said this and there is a post about this stuff. If I find it, I post the link here.

I've found this:



The caption that goes with it is:



Another quote from this article, confirming what others have already said in this thread:




Source: NASA - Exploring The Universe - Our Solar System

So I was wrong about the bottom right hand image in the original post, it is a Hubble image.

One thing that will stand out. There are no STARS!

Because we don't have any visible light telescopes powerful enough. That's why we have to send spacecraft to the Moon and Mars etc to take photos.

And I hardly think anyone's going to spend millions building a telescope capable of seeing the moon landing sites in detail just to prove to a few of the lunatic fringe that we went to the moon

And for those who still have doubts, and think Apollo 13 really was just a film starring Tom Hanks, that moon rocks were made by NASA in the lab, and that stars will appear in photos taken on the moon even though they don't under the same exposure conditions on earth, there are links to various sites providing answers to all your questions here

For those of you who which to persist with the "we didn't go to the moon" stuff then the correct thread is: Did we land on the Moon?

For those interested in what this thread started out as, namely a discussion of the Hubble moon images then you may be interestd to know that I have found the origin of the original pictures that started the thread. It's from the Hubble Site and is date October 19, 2005. I've reproduced it below:

Apollo 17 Landing Region

This image showcases Hubble Space Telescope's first high-resolution ultraviolet and visible imaging of the Apollo 17 landing region within the Taurus-Littrow valley of the Moon. Humans last walked and drove on the lunar surface in this region (marked "+" in the image at left and at lower right) in December 1972.

The image at upper right was taken by the Apollo 17 astronauts (Dr. H. Jack Schmitt and Gene Cernan). It illustrates a view of the rim of Shorty crater and the lunar roving vehicle against a backdrop of the mountain-like massifs that define the Taurus-Littrow valley. The Hubble Space Telescope image at lower right was constructed by overlaying the Hubble image (at left) with a digital-terrain model acquired by the Apollo program to provide a perspective view looking from west to east up the valley. These Hubble data illustrate the high-resolution resolving power of the Advanced Camera for Surveys and display features smaller than a soccer field from low-Earth orbit some 248,000 miles (400,000 kilometers) distant. These images were acquired at nearly full Moon, so the long, dark shadows typical of many lunar orbital photos are not seen; however, this is perfect lighting for color analysis from which to interpret subtle compositional differences.

The Hubble Space Telescope Lunar Exploration team is using the Apollo 17 images (and those acquired of the Apollo 15 site) as "ground-truth" in an effort to discriminate lunar materials enriched in ilmenite, a titanium-bearing oxide of potential value as a resource in human exploration of the Moon.

The images at left and at lower right were taken Aug. 16, 2005 by Hubble's Advanced Camera for Surveys. North is at the top in these images.

Images were processed by the Hubble Space Telescope Lunar Exploration team at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Northwestern University, and the Space Telescope Science Institute.

Credit: NASA, ESA, and J. Garvin (NASA/GSFC)

Source: Hubble Site - News Desk