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Glen M. Usher
One alternative view on recent world history has it that many Nazi scientists escaped at the end of world war 2 and set up shop in some sympathetic lands in South America, here they have set up a clandestine space programme to rival that of NASA's or the Soviets and also delved into the controversial areas of gene cloning and UFO construction.

Some say that the moon has been clandestinely colonized.

Also they had more than a passing interest in the exploration of the Antarctic continent, sending expeditions there and naming it NIUwE SCHWABBELAND(sp) or something of that nature.

This alternate theory could account for the many UFO hotspots in South America.
StalingradK
Er, I don't agree with this but it is fact that a lot of Nazis escaped to Argentina and Southern Brazil to avoid capture.
Nadal
Well. The only truth in your thing was that some Nazi's did go to South America after World War 2.
Irish
Well that certainly would explain the march of the penguins, if they only had hands to give those high fives I would be totally convinced. grin2.gif

Nazi penguins SS elite

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Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(Glen M. Usher @ Apr 11 2006, 04:34 PM) [snapback]1143304[/snapback]

Some say that the moon has been clandestinely colonized.


The only thing I hate worse than a nazi, is a moon nazi.

In all seriousness, though, it is known that nazi expatriates fled to South America after the war to avoid prosecution. However, the idea that they have some form of super-space program, one which rivals that of the free world yet is completely secret, is a bit suspect. Indeed, the idea that one could launch a moon shot clandestinely is a bit suspect in and of itself.

The South American nazi expatriates also figure highly in hollow earth conspiracies. Supposedly, Hitler escaped the bunker and led his armies through the hole in Antarctica into the hollow earth. I'm sure you can imagine what my thoughts on the subject are.

-Pilgrim
Nadal
QUOTE(Pilgrim_Shadow @ Apr 11 2006, 06:06 PM) [snapback]1143424[/snapback]

The only thing I hate worse than a nazi, is a moon nazi.

In all seriousness, though, it is known that nazi expatriates fled to South America after the war to avoid prosecution. However, the idea that they have some form of super-space program, one which rivals that of the free world yet is completely secret, is a bit suspect. Indeed, the idea that one could launch a moon shot clandestinely is a bit suspect in and of itself.

The South American nazi expatriates also figure highly in hollow earth conspiracies. Supposedly, Hitler escaped the bunker and led his armies through the hole in Antarctica into the hollow earth. I'm sure you can imagine what my thoughts on the subject are.

-Pilgrim

w00t.gif Yeah, I remember reading about that. If the Nazi's were less war-researching. They'd probably of started the space program a lot earlier than we did and had men on the moon before 1969. They were very advanced and were doing a lot of research.
Feanor
QUOTE(StalingradK @ Apr 11 2006, 05:38 PM) [snapback]1143310[/snapback]

Er, I don't agree with this but it is fact that a lot of Nazis escaped to Argentina and Southern Brazil to avoid capture.



Ehehe on this one I can add a some good info I think.

Well, during the WWII, Brazil was living a dictature regime. It were more likelly to stand on the side of the nazy than the allied, but Brazil remained neutral till the 1942 when it declared war on the axis, but took to years till its men were ready to join the allied in battle. Meanwhile, some nazy sympatizers helped many nazy to enter Brazil and even supplied them with some equipment (Radios, ammunition, etc. Nothing big tho). But, 1944, Brazil joined the allied forces and send men to Italy to fight in the war. They fought till the end of the war when the allied forces won the war.

But, recently, Brazil destroyed many buildings in São Paulo, the bisgest city in Brazil, where they found the nazy simbol painted on the ground. So yes, there were some idiots in Brazil that was thinking on helping the nazy regime. Thank God they were all killed or arrested.

Here´s a link regarding Brazilian Campaing in WWII, I am adding this cause few know about this. Good reading, not long and very detailed.

Brazil at WWII
evil_E.T
This all sounds a little too james bond
Immortal Norway
Nazis escaping to the center of the Earth... hmm.gif sounds belivebal
Nazis escaping to an other planet... hmm.gif maybe
Nazis escaping to Brazil... hmm.gif never !!! mad.gif
Fluffybunny
QUOTE(Pilgrim_Shadow @ Apr 11 2006, 03:06 PM) [snapback]1143424[/snapback]

The only thing I hate worse than a nazi, is a moon nazi.
-Pilgrim


Thanks for the spit take I had to do when I read that one tongue.gif

Nazis in SA are well known, but as for the moon; that is pretty funny and would make a wonderful cover for the Weekly World News, along with a photo of hitler driving a nazi flag into the moon surface just like Armstrong...
~TheArtOfContact~
QUOTE(Irish @ Apr 11 2006, 10:00 PM) [snapback]1143332[/snapback]

Well that certainly would explain the march of the penguins, if they only had hands to give those high fives I would be totally convinced. grin2.gif

Nazi penguins SS elite

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Notice there's only two facing one way, the rest the other? laugh.gif
Anyway, it isn't just about South America's U.F.O. hot spots to go on, think about Mexico City.
Pax Unum
Following the belief that the Germans had gained advanced technologies in the early 1940's (possibly from recovered crashed UFOs or through contact with an alien culture), this article by Vladimir Terziski, President of the American Academy of Dissident Sciences, is a study of the Germans involvement in the exploration of the Moon and Mars.

GERMAN MOON BASE

* WARNING * - really silly stuff.... grin2.gif
louie
Im an expat living in finland an so i know a lot of foreigners. But one guy and i might add a really cool guy is from brazil and we were talking about travelling and finding work ectera an he told me it was easy for him as he has a german passport an i asked how did u get that an he says oh my grandfather was german, i had to bite my tounge from cracking some jokes on the subject,, but yeah put 2 an 2 toghter an u get germans in brazil,, and the movie with gregory peck ,, the boys from brazil is an excellant movie it covers the geneing issue ectera,, if u havent seen it i recomend it highly
Feanor
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Apr 12 2006, 12:13 PM) [snapback]1144524[/snapback]

Nazis escaping to the center of the Earth... hmm.gif sounds belivebal
Nazis escaping to an other planet... hmm.gif maybe
Nazis escaping to Brazil... hmm.gif never !!! mad.gif



Hum... I do not understand you. Why Never fleeing to Brazil? Because its hard to scape to Brazil or because Germany ppl is too good to come to Brazil?

I hope that it is the first option, cause the second would be too racist for the present days, don´t you think?
Feanor
Ok, I am from Brazil and I can say. There is a lot of German dissident in Brazil. A LOT.

The south region fo Brazil that is: Santa Catarina, Rio Grande do Sul and Paraná were colonized by German ppl that fleed here after and before the War.

I will see if I can find a good article and picture of the places I just mentioned and also regarding the Nazy influenza in Brazil before we declared war on them...

Edited to add this:

German Migration to Brazil

City founded in Brazil by Germans
Nadal
IF you couldn't tell, he was being sarcastic. I don't believe the Nazi's did or ever will go to the moon or explore it vividly. I however do believe they could of if they still existed before us Americans could of.
riotboy555
QUOTE(Pilgrim_Shadow @ Apr 11 2006, 10:06 PM) [snapback]1143424[/snapback]

The only thing I hate worse than a nazi, is a moon nazi.

In all seriousness, though, it is known that nazi expatriates fled to South America after the war to avoid prosecution. However, the idea that they have some form of super-space program, one which rivals that of the free world yet is completely secret, is a bit suspect. Indeed, the idea that one could launch a moon shot clandestinely is a bit suspect in and of itself.

The South American nazi expatriates also figure highly in hollow earth conspiracies. Supposedly, Hitler escaped the bunker and led his armies through the hole in Antarctica into the hollow earth. I'm sure you can imagine what my thoughts on the subject are.

-Pilgrim

I agree with you. I mean, the Illuminati supposedly is running the world, yet everyone knows about them. All small group of men escape to S. America out of fear of persecution yet they're able to set up shop on the moon with nobody knowing.
Mekorig
Nazis in Argentina.

IN the WWII era there was an small nazi party in Argentina, And Peron remained neutral in the fight, selling food to both the allies and the axis. after the world, some nazis enter illegaly into Argentina, and settled among garman descendants in argentina, in zone like Misiones (near Brazil), Buenos Aires city or Bariloche (in the patagonia, near los Andes). But we never a "litttle nazi germany" int he country. Some nazie xpatriate hide among german descendatns in the Chile´s Patagonia, and yes, there was a little nazi germany, that colaborated whit Pinochet´s regimen.
Mors Profundis
I think I was waiting for this one.
As our friends from SA noted, the German migration to Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay and Chile began long before WWII, and of course, people with a "brown past" might well flee there to blend in with the local German minority.
Some die hard Confederate officers went to Brazil after 1865, too.
The Nazis were quite fond of the Hollow Earth theory-since they probably went to Hell when they died, I guess it fits.
Did they go to the Moon?
Nah.
Does any thinking person really believe that someone could build a launching facility in Amazonia(which is big and sparsely populated, but still on Earth) with nobody noticing?
Supplies, workers, the difficulty of getting parts, machines, corrosion, food supply, transportation, monkeys, that sort of thing?
Give me a break.
The fugitives in SA wanted to hide, that's it.
They were working on some strange projects near the end of the war, one facility was sealed with explosives as the Allies closed in, and may have been the site of some advanced electomagnetic research, but nothing that was going to win the war for them.
Ever seen the picture of the flying saucer with the tank turret attached?
Behold the skinny.
That turret is from a Panther, which carried a long 75mm wedge breech gun.
On the flying saucer, it's mounted upside down.
So to use the sight, the gunner has to hang upside down.
When the gun is fired, the empty casing is ejected, to fall into the top of the tightly packed turret, where it may well jam the breech.
Pity the poor loader, where will he stand to wrestle the shells into the gun, then what will he do when the breechblock comes flying back, all hippity whipity, as the gun fires?
Won't do, ain't possible.
That's not even considering the recoil-we had a version of the B-25 bomber that mounted a short 75mm howitzer in the nose, the crews reported when the gun was fired, the aircraft almost stopped, and the saucer would be absorbing the recoil of a high velocity tank gun.
Ever play tiddleywinks?
No moon Nazis.
The Great Old Ones ate them.
louie
very well put
Psychokinesis
Somehow I find the theory of Nazis colonizing the moon somewhat crazy....post a link to this?
Master-J
i thought that the nazis hated jewish people, so why would they move to the moon if there are no jewish people there? hmmm

<by the way i dont hate jewish people, i respect everyone equally>
Dennison
Its a crude and silly idea that the Nazis would set up a Moon Base, but it sounds Plausible that some may have escaped into other countries. The world is a big place, and theres lots of places to hide. original.gif
Mors Profundis
I just recalled, Nazi's in space was a popular comic book plot in the 1950's, on the moon, on Mars or on Venus.
Kryso
There must be a shortage of theories if this is the latest to come out of the ‘Conspiracy Camp’ - Nazis on the Moon… blink.gif
Mors Profundis
It's an old one.
Say, speaking of which, any idea how old these Nazis would be?
Can you goose step in a walker?
Dennison
If Hitler didn't die in the Bunker, he'd be dead by now, unless he found the Fountain of Youth under Antarctica !!!! laugh.gif
Mors Profundis
He did, and vows to return.
"No more Mr. Nice Guy!" he says.
See what having your own flying saucer does for you?
Glen M. Usher
QUOTE(Kryso @ Apr 17 2006, 06:52 PM) [snapback]1151511[/snapback]

There must be a shortage of theories if this is the latest to come out of the ‘Conspiracy Camp’ - Nazis on the Moon… blink.gif


YOU could not be more wrong if you tried, this theory is a real old one.

Come to think of it, these kijd of theories has been circulating since the end of the war.

Project paperclip was a project run by the Brits that allowed high ranking Nazi scientists etc to escape from Europe after the war, I think you will find that it's quite well documented. Yes the other bits about the moon etc are very far fetched.

Nothing wrong with the occasional conspiracy theory, it's sure alot more entertaining than the news that goes out on the BBC.
Mors Profundis
This is getting very silly.
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