Just a little survey for you all (and sincere apologies if this has been done before)

Demons - do they exist?
Are they a very real risk to us?
Can they possess people?
Can they be summoned and controlled?

or, is it absolute drivel?

Your thoughts please.........

Hammy x x x

I think that it is possible that they exist but that it's very difficult to come to a conclusion because like many areas of the paranormal there are so many false stories and hoaxes out there.

IMO, it kind of depends on your definition of "demon". Do you mean "demon" in a religious or non-religious context?

Personally I do not believe in demons...at least not the kind described in mythology and many religions.

I do believe that human failings such as greed or hatred can drive certain people to perpetrate acts of evil on others. But this is the result of the human condition and is not brought on by the influence of demonic entities.

In my opinion anywayz...

My own personal opinion is that they are Tulpas - thought forms.
Perhaps they are 'created' by negative energies, and people 'create' these monsters, and shape them into their own personal Bogey-men.

Hammy x x x

Yes they're out there...sometimes.

I think they can be invoked, or evoked, by those skilled in magick and that they can bring about certain prescribed effects.

I don't know what they are (except they're not ghosts), thought forms, projections, astral beings, elementals, neutrarians? If one invites temporary possession they could be a specifically constructed state of mind.

I think there may be spirits or entities who are what is termed low spirits, full of malice, fear or mishcief who may be able to influence an environment or place, causing negative feelings for those around it. As for curses I think like prayer it is directed intention that can harness some kind of energy, albeit a negative one, which then brings harm or misfortune to the victim. Using demonic images may just be a way to enhance and concentrate these intentions by the user.

I don't think there are demons in the sense of this guy >

But I have heard so many accounts from ghosthunters, psychics, and on a personal level, from one of the church of England's senior exorcists.

There are spirit forms/energy forms that are not ghosts as we know them. We think of ghosts as being dead people, or the psychic residue of dead people. But according to the accounts that I refer to above, these energy forms are not human, nor have they ever been. One of the most common terms I've heard for them are elementals.

These things lurk around, basically, feeding on negative energy, or waiting to latch on to people. One warning I hear quite often about the ouija board, is that these entities pose as deceased relatives or friends in order to be invited across.

Interestingly, despite my opening line, about them not having a traditional appearance, I have two personal accounts that contradict me.

In the last house I lived in (which could have an entire thread to itself), we suffered from an occasional loud knocking on doors in the upstairs rooms. My sister was doing a spot of spring cleaning one day, when she stopped dead in her tracks, and looked up at the door frame of my bedroom door. Just for a second she saw a small, leathery black creature perched there, then it was gone. Was this the thing that had been doing the knocking?

When I was a kid, and we were staying at my maternal grandparent's house, I was very ill with fever. I remember one afternoon being distressed because the room became full of swirling tiny bat like bird-things. My mother took me out of the room, sat me at the backdoor, and with a bit of fresh air, I was fine. For years I quite sensibly assumed it had been the fever making me see things. A couple of years ago, I was told about the time my grandfather had taken ill, some years after my experience, in the same room. Apparently, he had told someone he got a shock when he saw lots of bats in the room.

Cuffy, this 'bat' thing in your grandparents house.......could it not have been that your grampy picked up, or 'tuned in' to the vision that you had when you were ill? If you were both at a different level of conciousness maybe your vivid impression left a kind of residue that stayed in that roon, and in the same state of illness/fever, gramps simply 'played' it back?

Just a thought.



Hammy x x x

Yes, I believe in them. I have not seen one, or least I do not think I have. I hope I never do. I need to stop now, as I'm scaring myself, but I just want to add that I think what Cufflink said about them feeding off of negative energy. Yeah, I think that is what they do. o.k. I'm really scared now.

yes.where the Holy exists,the Evil lurks too.....

I don't believe in demons. No explination as of yet, when I am more clued up with demons, then I should be able to give a plausable explination.

Cuffy.................sweetheart.............you are SUCH a wimp!!!!!!!!!



*mental note to self - teach Cuffy to kick-box*

Hammy x x x

Yes i Believe in Demons.. they are evil...

they are invisble....

but they can take on ANY form.....
all the evil in tha world is influnced by demons....
but since they are invisible..
many people dont belvie in them....
i belive in them...

I think evil demons are evil aliens.

Cuffy and Hammy sitting in a tree....

Yes, Demons do really exist! Becoz if not then....How come there are some "Possession's ? "

Just like Angels, they are also sub-divided into many heirachical order. Each with their own purposed.

There are...

I don't believe in them I'm afraid...maybe because I'm an athiest. I'm not too sure about the whole 'ghost' thing...but I class demons as a very different area altogether.

It really does depend on what you call a 'demon'...if you're talking demons as in Satan and his minions of the anti-christ, then I just think that's rubbish. As for demons as in 'evil spirits'...

Well...since I don't consider ghosts impossible (I'm leaning towards sceptic, but not all the way there), I wouldn't call 'evil spirits' impossible either. However, it's not a subject I take too seriously I'm afraid.

There are bad things in the world, no doubt, so I votes yes, they are evil spirits. Whether they have horns and pointy tails or not, that's a different story.

ummmmmmmmmm.......me-thinks you all have the wrong idea

Hammy x x x

Well this time I just plain stop teasing ....

Does anyone know the signs of demonn possesion?

Sudden weight loss, SEVERE mood swings, but those can also be caused by other things. I can't really get into this though, cause I'm trying to forget about the past.

Vampyre_Mistress,

I understand that you are a newbie, but it is advised that you make use of the forums 'search' function to look for topics before you start a new thread. I have merged your post with a relevent thread which should answer the question you posed.

Magikman

I think Demons are some kind of undiscovered animals that look scary and fierce(all animals have its own defense system) which people thought were evil because they are super ulgy. Demons with powers like breathing fire is just impossible. If there is demon, there is god. If there is god then who made god? There has to be a beginning to god. Now that settles the religous demon. Now the supernatural one, evolution is what made what we and every living thing is now. If nature gave some creature that can breath fire and is just made evil, well we all know its impossible. So I think its just a undiscovered or extent animal.