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Endymion
The Catholic Church have now new sins for who have faith in God or Jesus.
If instead of meditating and reading the Bible, you will be watching television, reading newspapers or sailing in the Internet, such will be able to want to say that is a sin and confess it.The Vatican recuperates, in this way, an old celebration with a news lists of sins.
How long you dedicates to see television, read newspapers or sail in the Internet? And how long you meditate and read the Sacred Scripture? The answer helps to decide if it have or not to confess sins considered news by the catholic Church.
To the excessive speed or to the escape of the taxes there are now connected sins to the new technologies, to the television, and to the newspapers.This was explained in the Tuesday, in the Basilica of Saint Pedro, by American cardinal James Francis Stafford, the prison-mor of the Vatican. Did it during the Rite of the Reconciliation, a cerimony that was traditional in Rome up to the Renaissance and thats now the Holy Cathedral recuperates.The penitents takes advantage to confess, reviving a practice that is falling.
Reading the Bible is an activity that needs time and today the Catholic Church advises in substitution of any another one more traditionalist penitence.

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In my opinion let me say: Thanks Goddess that I'm not Catholic and I 'm proud of not being,the church wants that civilization became backwards? If the church doesn't existed we were more advanced.
Dennison
QUOTE(Endymion @ Apr 13 2006, 10:36 AM) [snapback]1145831[/snapback]

The Catholic Church have now new sins for who have faith in God or Jesus.
If instead of meditating and reading the Bible, you will be watching television, reading newspapers or sailing in the Internet, such will be able to want to say that is a sin and confess it.The Vatican recuperates, in this way, an old celebration with a news lists of sins.
How long you dedicates to see television, read newspapers or sail in the Internet? And how long you meditate and read the Sacred Scripture? The answer helps to decide if it have or not to confess sins considered news by the catholic Church.
To the excessive speed or to the escape of the taxes there are now connected sins to the new technologies, to the television, and to the newspapers.This was explained in the Tuesday, in the Basilica of Saint Pedro, by American cardinal James Francis Stafford, the prison-mor of the Vatican. Did it during the Rite of the Reconciliation, a cerimony that was traditional in Rome up to the Renaissance and thats now the Holy Cathedral recuperates.The penitents takes advantage to confess, reviving a practice that is falling.
Reading the Bible is an activity that needs time and today the Catholic Church advises in substitution of any another one more traditionalist penitence.

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In my opinion let me say: Thanks Goddess that I'm not Catholic and I 'm proud of not being,the church wants that civilization became backwards? If the church doesn't existed we were more advanced.



I'm a catholic and the way I see all this is just a form of control to keep people in the church. I live my live to the fullest while still praising God, I don't feel a mass congregation to confess sins and repent every week is necessary in living a full and happy life.
klamath
QUOTE(Endymion @ Apr 13 2006, 09:36 AM) [snapback]1145831[/snapback]

The penitents takes advantage to confess, reviving a practice that is falling.
Reading the Bible is an activity that needs time and today the Catholic Church advises in substitution of any another one more traditionalist penitence.

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In my opinion let me say: Thanks Goddess that I'm not Catholic and I 'm proud of not being,the church wants that civilization became backwards? If the church doesn't existed we were more advanced.



Unfortunately I was born and raised Catholic, but went searching for my own beliefs in my late teens. I think that an underlining reason they could be doing this is because of all the impurities that TV, newspapers and the Internet holds. The porn, violence and just lack of disregard for someone else's life/feelings that is portrayed. When's the last time you've seen happy show that made your heart feel good. There's a couple out there and maybe a news segment here and there, but there is far more hurt and heartache. My aunt who is a nun says that she thinks computers were made by man with the devil's help. Her theories have a certain amount of truth to it. There seems to be a lot more followers then leaders in the world and I'm sure the Vatican is afraid that these followers will go for the wrong thing.

But to play devil's advocate - If none of the Catholics are doing TV, news and Internet, they won't know what the Catholic priests have been doing. . . w00t.gif
alchemistic
They just know the information is getting out there faster and faster because of the internet, to de-bunk all the BS that's been being put out via the neighborhood churches, books, newspapers and etc...the things they "had" control over...now, they have little control over the internet...though, Bush wants to change that hmm.gif

I guess this is one way to start...

The internet (computers) were certainly not made by man with the devils help....LOL

You can take any tool and make it positive or negative.
Imaginary Friend
Roman Catholic Doctrinal evolution

I've not read where the new Pope has announced "new sins" to the order. Is there a reference for this claim?
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(klamath @ Apr 13 2006, 03:58 PM) [snapback]1145850[/snapback]



But to play devil's advocate - If none of the Catholics are doing TV, news and Internet, they won't know what the Catholic priests have been doing. . . w00t.gif

w00t.gif laugh.gif
Darkwind
Any body got a link on the new sins. My neighbor is Catholic we get together almost every night and watch "Millionaire". I would hate to think she would have to go to confession for watch TV with a Pagan.
Imaginary Friend
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laugh.gif You know how you can tell someone has your screen name set to "ignore poster"?

They ask the same question you did! thumbsup.gif w00t.gif wub.gif
Paranoid Android
Well, if surfing the net for extended periods is a sin, I'm going to Hell devil.gif tongue.gif

Seriously, it's only a sin if it starts to take over your life. If you start to pay more attention to it than to God. Granted, spending 18 hours a day surfing the net, chatting on MSN or whatever, bumming around, and then sleeping, how can you have time to worship God?

It's a matter between you and God though, not something that can be regulated by any law. The problem is, if the church says don't spend more than x number of hours on TV, then legalistic righteousness is where that leads - I can spend one minute less than the allowed amount, and it's all good. One minute over though, and I'm doomed. Sounds like the Pharisees all over again yes.gif

Just my opinion.

QUOTE(alchemistic @ Apr 14 2006, 01:06 AM) [snapback]1145856[/snapback]

though, Bush wants to change that hmm.gif
You do know Bush isn't Catholic? If he were involved, more likely he'd be getting the Baptist Arch-Bishop involved.

Regards, PA
Darkwind
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You do know Bush isn't Catholic? If he were involved, more likely he'd be getting the Baptist Arch-Bishop involved.



PA the reason Bush want to control of the internet has nothing to do with religion. It is more like why the Chinese control the internet a control of information controls how people think. And naturally to keep the world safe from evil internet posters like you and me. grin2.gif devil.gif
Paranoid Android
ohmy.gif I'm not evil

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Well, maybe just a little bit tongue.gif
Lion of Judah
I dont't think people understand what it is to be Catholic I mean apostles & saints were matryed for their belief.I met Pope John Paul he done a very good spreading the word even in his fragile state .If you go to South America the standard of living isn't good but the spirit of people is strong therefore you have more fun out of life.One day a new Church would arise to break the silence.
Azalin
Im still waiting for the source of this information. I have not heard anything regarding this from the church.
Conspiracy
LOL thats going a weee bit over board there, bad enough they dont want africans to use condoms meanwhile the epidemic over there is just getting worse cuz they dont
Azalin
QUOTE(Conspiracy @ Apr 14 2006, 11:12 PM) [snapback]1147863[/snapback]

LOL thats going a weee bit over board there, bad enough they dont want africans to use condoms meanwhile the epidemic over there is just getting worse cuz they dont


Personally, I don't think they should use condoms either. I believe they should instead be taught about STD's, and how they are transmitted. Give an african man a condom, or enlightening him what an STD is are two different approaches. Goes back to the wise words " Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach him to fish, feed him for life ".
Imaginary Friend
Given the tribal witch doctors in certain regions of Africa teach that sex with a child, can prevent or cure HIV/AIDS, (the younger the better), teaching about STD's and giving them condoms serve two purposes. Education on sexually transmitted risk factors and the opportunity to insure they don't transmit diseases sexually because they now know enough to wrap up and save themselves!

If the Catholic church preaches against condoms in the midst of rampant viral plague and death, send the bodies of the dead right to the golden doors of the Vatican and let them bury the faithful that heeded the fear of god white oppressors imparted, at the expense of the African culture!

science101
Pope denounced sinful acts committed by man! In his pre-Easter address, Pope Benedict XVI addressed the large crowd on Good Friday. Here are some of his talking points:

-He reflected on "diabolical" threats against families, morality
-mindless acts of transgressions
-For man to take the place of God is insane arrogance
-The 'Cult of Satan' lives amonst us
-There is a move to reinvent mankind
-There have been attempts to modify the very grammer of life
-discussed laws that will not permit gay marriage, abortion, & other views that undermine the institution of family.

Although I am not a Catholic, his message still resonated with me!
Endymion
QUOTE(Azalin @ Apr 14 2006, 11:57 PM) [snapback]1147844[/snapback]

Im still waiting for the source of this information. I have not heard anything regarding this from the church.


http://www.correiomanha.pt/noticia.asp?id=...idCanal=10&p=94

As a portuguese said : "And if I read the Bible on www.biblia.com ?" grin2.gif lololol
Imaginary Friend
Translated to read as:


Religion List still can add to
Church he advertises new sins

Vítor Mota

The expenditure exaggerate as of television, Internet AND newspapers raisin the one being sin
Filter too much time watching television, surf the Internet or read newspapers has just come in at the rol of the ACTIVITIES considered by the Vatican as a “pecados”. THE ONE revelation, such amazing quantum inesperada, arose terça- fair pela voice from the red bird north- American Jamestown Francisco Stafford, penitenciário-mor during the Rito from the Reconciliation, celebration than it is to period of time time-honored well into Rome up to the Revival and that Bento XVI retrieves now.


The assignee from the The popepe for the ceremony he presented um long Elena as of questions the one as the fiéis must answer, well into self-examination, in time for in case that approximate from the Sacramento from the penance.

Amidst they, it places- in case that the litigation relative to at the he forms as if raisin the tempo, comparing- in case that the investment at the mediator ( television, Internet AND newspapers) with the amount of time expend the one “meditar AND the one read the one Sacred Charter. Second the one Santa Sé, filter a long time the one read newspapers, watching television or the one surf the Internet diminishing the dedication at the belief crest. Hence the excuse dada for its fact as of these activities we will be passing the one being considered as a “novos sins.

“Ridículo” is the word used by the bishop of the Armed forces, D. Januário, about to assort the novas guidelines from the Vatican. “Se as soon is, then I am um ample sin. I read a great many newspapers, navigator at the ‘net’ the tempo than it is to if he may go accurate AND I see television, as a the whole people, it adds the bishop.

But the review of data. Januário haven't you fica about here: “No boundary, there are ‘defeitos’ well into all of it. The football, for example. As well can be um sin. The cash that if he spends in a card could be given to the poor. As far as well into antics bare one finds, in case that if we may want, state of affairs sin. Um chap than it is to I underwent on the brink of Tejo, in case that gutter, should be with the aunt at the hospital or the one do Company to the grandchildren, has said.

“Levar these things at the character is abominable. Observe the church point the finger to whom he reads a great many newspapers is apish. Afterward haven't you can complaint as you they say than it is to the church is reactionary. Who sees more television: the reformed, the ill, the idosos. Now, they would undergo big ones sin. It doesn't make felt, it adds the bishop of the Armed forces.

“Quero accredit than it is to there are herein a problem as of communication. Something was not ably explained or knowledgeable, concluded that.

The priest Vaz I paint he does a interpretation different. Heard pela TSF, the priest considers normal the doom from the Vatican to the “uso AND abuse of the novas ACTIVITIES sin.

“Não there are ambiguity of what today is there a worn away imoderado as of amount of time than it is to takes a number of times the one ample passividade, at the absence of mind from the more important. There aren't finest I use from our life, amount of time AND amor. (...) Who raisin the life at the this data has just By not to afford step in at the remainder from the life, while leaving fixtures more important: the wife, the sons, the sport, the culture, social service AND By alas abroad.

But the list as of “novos sins can not to stay about here. Antonio Riboldi, bishop emeritus as of Acerbated ( Italy) already has included at the list the one ‘piercing’, the tatuagens AND the one ‘lifting’.

Well into appointment to the newspaper ‘Corriere del Mezzogiorno’, the one prelado stated that air duct being standby as of stage by one software program as of television, wherein the only SCOPE is denote the body, did not raisin from a demonstration as of imoralidade, “um manner as of in case that sell to any fare. Antonio Riboldi he opens the book of other sins from our amount of time AND do you speak from the desrespeito to the code from the road, to the I abandon as of animals, at the boast from the richness AND to whom in case that he dresses as of he forms suggestive.

As to the I beg your pardon, most of all when you trata as of crimes desperate against it children or murders well into mass as of blameless, the cardinal than it is to announced the “novos sins it doesn't let doubtfulnesses: “A blackout from the sin will not be able delete never the light from the misericórdia god.

PRIESTS CIBERPECADORES

The new sins laid down yesterday by the Vatican can complicate the life to the priests than it is to they invest its amount of time the one disclose the paróquias AND the one preach through the Internet. Each time there are over priests along ‘sites’ AND blogues in the network, but with the novas beacons, in place of from the title deed as of ciberpadres, dangerous- in case that the one come by ciberpecadores.

At the final times, the number of priests along presence assiduous in the network does have augmented. All by oneself at the doorway Paróquias as of Portugal (www.paroquias.org) they are registered ‘sites’ as of over 180 paróquias.

Accrues the a number of paróquias than it is to does not even they are associated to the gates AND the tens as of blogues personals as of priests, where they are related experiences as of belief or disponibilizados advice spiritual.

The priests than it is to they followed the advices as of John Paulo II, to the to use the new technologies for spreading the belief, they will be having now than it is to rethink its behavior.

In a communicated issued in 2002, the advice Pontifício for the Communications Sociais he used to ask to the Catholics, “a all of classes from the Church, than it is to aproveitassem the Internet “de manner creative, about to we will be assuming the accountabilities than it is to them cabem AND about to we will be helping the church the one abide by its mission.

According to the document, the one ‘web’ he would permit at the Church “informar the world above the your own creditor AND account for the reasons of its plant on the subject of each whole question or event as of he forms faster.

About to Francisco Pereira, the one ciberpadre it created um blogue AND a page ‘on- linear about to disclose the one paróquia from the Bra from the Carpalhosa (Leiria), these directives did not have been postcards well into he causes.

The one to the one Vatican has made he went “alertar the people about to we will use the Internet as of he forms accountable AND along rule, averred the priest.

THE MÁS AIMS AND The sins You originate

The sin he renders the one Evil. Can say- in case that than it is to the sin is that all the one to guitar the savvy AND the interest from the aright common, allocating always um fundamental role for the consciousness individual: everything that is made along má aim is reprovável to the eyes as of God, even if did not I've just well into crime, asneira or damage about to third parties. About to aside from from the homage by the Commandments as of God AND from the Church, the fiéis they have still of having well into alertness the called sins sociais, as is the case from the escape to the revenue AND the fail in other bonds civic.

“A Caesar what is as of Caesar, he answered Jesus as you confronted by the fariseus on the subject of in case that period of time legal the feee as of revenue. That's a litigation as of appointment individual with the community.

CRIMES AND COMMANDMENTS Religious people

Killing

All seven deadly sins from the tradition crest they are: envy, avarice, covet, pride ( or queen), sluggishness, luxúria AND gula. The order is halfhearted.

Commandments

THE ONE desrespeito by the Ten Commandments from the Law as of God, how to kill, commit adultery, make away with, covet the one of other or fail at the do you really mean it, is sin.

Church

All five Commandments from the Church includes: confession AND communal at least at Easter; add up for the charges from the cultured AND go at the mass to the Sunday.

THE POPEPE AGAINST IT 'ACTIVISMO Frantic

PRIESTS Must be 'HOMENS AS OF Blessing

THE ONE The popepe felt that yesterday, during the Mass Crisis, as the priests must be “amigos as of Crest AND “homens as of blessing about to we will be doing cheek to the “activismo frantic of what suffers the world from our days. “O step in steep, at the end as of accounts, runs out of fruit AND he loses effectiveness if not are born from the deep AND intimate communal along Crest. The tempo than it is to empenhamos about to she is, quite, amount of time as of activeness shepherd, has said Bento XVI.

PRIESTS THEY ARE IDOSOS AND Brickle

CRISIS AS OF VOCATIONS HE WORRIES D. JOSÉ POLICARPO

“Um figure considerable from our priests he begins the one feel the peso of the years AND the brittleness from the ailment, alerted yesterday D. José Policarpo, demonstrator in this way its anx with the consequences from the lack of priests.

Babbling during the sermon from the Mass Crisis, at the Sé as of Lisbon, the cardinal Patriarca it adds: “Procuraremos whenever you do not fault the one no community the charm custom from the ministry priest. But did not can fulfill all of demands of the people AND of the communities.

The bishop from the port of,. Armillary Rabbit, as well center of the city its sermon at the crisis vocational, allocating the ‘culpas’ at the crop prevalent. “A crop up to date, secularizada, religiosamente neutra AND indiferentista, agnostic or atheist, individualist AND economicista, did not favoring, toatcounter or he annuls many of the check marks as of hope than it is to awoke at the boyhood, namely as to the occupation for its presbiterado, the one consagração religious AND the one matrimony religious, I am sorry.
Paulo John Saints along M.F. AND agencies/F.P.

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edited to fix link - sorry, it was warping the webpage - PA
canwe
That was a long post I.F. Anyway I wonder why so many people brought up catholic do not like being a practising catholic when grow older. (this is not a bash at catholics I just thought alot of them were a little sarcastic about thier religion or just none practising at an older age)
canwe
Just a thought how come they can change the sins at will is there any set of rules governing this or does anyone have any information on the way the system of sins work?
Imaginary Friend
Thank you for the link fix PA! thumbsup.gif I tried to fix that myself to no avail. I had no idea it would effect the thread loading though. *smacks self* wacko.gif

And yes canwe, I realize that was a long read however that was not my doing. It was a translation via/ Babel Fish, so that's the entire article as is.
Endymion
This shows how ridiculous the Church can be nowadays.
If luxury is also a sin then the church have it,and when the church killed a lot of innocents that wasn't a sin? how they paid that,didn't happened anything to the church about that atrocities?
They should look about these aspects.
It is with these and others that the people moves away more of Rome each time.Clear that neither God nor Jesus Christ have to do with this,although the church uses and abuse Their names for try to subjugate the world.By the same reasons the Germans and the English itself moved away from there for centuries and the orthodox since the Century V, maintaining to their faith in Christ.
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