WHAT WILL I DO WHEN JUDGED BY GOD??

I will ask for forgiveness for all my sins.......and if not forgiven I would want to offer myself as soilder for god to fight against satan in war against good & evil..........................................

Oh dear. . . . . what have we hear? Some religious crack attempting in a hideous attempt to rouse my anger and spite.

The spite is there to begin with; the anger? Well, let's just say I find emotions rather "detrimental" to a cold and deterministic mentality.

Please stop with this utter nonsense of provacation; it is unecessary, and all it does is to further your own sense of stupidity upon these forums.

I don't flame out of anger, but merely out of honesty.

BTW, if you happen to actually read many of my previous posts that are not aimed at leaving a satirical tone upon these religious discussions, you will find that nothing I stated is based on a misunderstanding of any "historic principles and paradigms" that you speak of.

PS -- if you didn't understand my statement, it means basically I spend most of my posts trolling, and a smaller number making logical necessitations of whatever subject-matter is at hand. Simply because I don't have the patience to always define everything logically and rationally.

well, at least you admit that you are a flaming troll........

And it's so easy to provoke the admission!

Now watch, once they realize the error we'll witness an "edit" to that which they boldly and proudly profess themselves to be!

God will Judge us by the work and deeds we have done for in the new kingdom the liers snakes fornicators and murderers have no place in the new paradise of love peace and harmony.When judgement comes God will bring thousands times a thousand Angels with him lead by the King of Kings to bring justice to our world.

I'm sorry, I must have mistated my position and opinion of matters.

I don't like to edit my posts to hide anything.

You won't see any edits in my previous post; I was simply explaining my role on these forums.

Again, please read some of my previous posts. You are really talking out of your league here, trying to incite a flame war. Why?

I really have no clue. Have I struck a sensitive chord, showing the little trivial flaws in your position?

Really, when asked I like to conclude my statements with logic and reason, not opinions based off of a fairy tale, illogical statements, non-empirical evidence, and fuzzy logic.

Are you upset that I completely destroyed your reasoning for the existence of your "God?"

Deterministically speaking, these seem like the most viable reasons. However, I may be wrong. Please state your position on things before randomly attacking me. Note, that this is not a personal attack of any kind. I am simply estimating your relative position on this issue/debate/argument, which I have yet to see you state.

Are you trying to argue without a solidified position? Then it could not be a valid argument.

So please, do give us YOUR reasoning behind the things YOU say.

my god will judge me by my actions and then "she" will reveal the universe and all it's secrets to me..........................

firstly, i would probably curse at him and ask why i was given such an ugly body compared to that of angelina jolie or jessica simpson. geez.

secondly, i would badger him with all of the incessant questions that we skeptics here on UM are constantly asking, but this time, i won't accept that "you just have to have faith" crap. grr.

thirdly, i would kick his butt for all of his unjust behavior and hypocritical viewpoints.

If there was a god and he claimed to have the right to judge me i would point out that he is not MY god as i have no god then would studiously ignore him until he goes away. I am sure that i could out wait him as he seems like a very impatient being in the way he kills all who disagree with him rather then trying to help them

WOW rose this is the 1st time I have read a post that is a tad on the negative side LOL whats wrong girl?? are you ok? Cuz normally you are so nice and you post so well

Ref to your body....Rose....you should be thankful for the following.........

You have all your limbs
You have your vision
You can hear and speak
You are not deformed in anyway and you dont have huge multi colored birth marks all over your face and body!!
Your health

Because there are the unfortunate people that dont have everything....but a lot of those people that dont, seem to be gifted with things we arent and can do more things that we cant

I used to think I had a horrible body and complained and told my folks I wanted a face lift ect....and when I was told I should be thankful I am not deformed and that I could walk talk, run see, hear ect I should be more than thankful and after my accident, I was told I may not walk again...I saw what it was like to be almost helpless but I fought it hard for years and now look at me....but if I had to stay in a wheelchair then I still would be happy I was able to do other things and I think I would still be happy...cuz I would stil be able to give birth and live my life..and hey like a lot of people in wheelchairs...I may take up sports like them and I may not be as lazy as I am now......so WHY MOPE over your body????...If you want to get into shape...just exercise and eat well but be proud and thankful for what you have

As for religion and faith...Rose all you have to have is faith, thats what it boils down to, but if you chose not to believe girl...I respect that and to me you are still the lovely rose

I'm with you! Any deity that would create evil, roast people in hell for eternity, remain hidden like a playful child, allow his creation to kill each other over whose god is the real god, children to die by the millions because of hunger and disease ... can kiss my backside!

Sean

LOL Sean...God did not create all this nonsense about going to hell...man did, cuz it was man that wrote the bible..it was man that created religion..which is why I dont believe in it

As for the poor lil kids..gee I am with you on that..but as to why this goes on...it beats the living hell out of me...all children have the right to live...I know we all have to kick the bucket some time..but why do kids have to suffer..this is something we wont ever know the answer to ...If only God would send them the rainny weather so they can grow their crops and feed themselves and have clean water..and soon begin to make money for themselves..then this wouldnt happen as much

Oh dont even start on the poverty being Gods fault...Go and donate some and stop whining to a God you dont believe exists to help them out. God tells people to GIVE and to HELP for their will be struggle in the world. There need not be poverty- there doesnt have to be poverty but there always will be because thats the balance of the world...People want to feel powerful, they want to be in control and they want a "third world". Movies being made with Billions of dollars budget, governments swimming in their cash- it makes no sense...we can PRINT money...money can be MADE...we can transport goods to these poor people. Im telling you now that poverty is the fault of man- not God. We feel better about ourselves knowing their are people so much worse off...sad but true.

indeed rammy,

you can't blame gods, or gravity, or anything other than humanity itself for poverty.

However, we can NOT just print money. To do so would collapse the current economies resulting in everybody being in poverty. You will find very few in favour of that outcome.

What does giving money do? It creates dependence. It does not solve the problem, it masks it temporarily. Under the current economies, for people to excape poverty they must be given the tools to succeed, but of greater importance they must want to succeed! Not everybody has the same asperations.

When it comes to solving poverty, one needs to redesign the current economic models.

Perhaps...
Poverty comes from a misconception.
Feed a person a fish and he is not hungry for a day....teach him to fish and he is not hungry ever.
The question needs to be asked is what do we teach.

Since everyones power comes from within and is the source of all action, perhaps we need to teach meditation.
IMO anyways

indeed turtle, teach meditation.

poverty is a misconception born of applying a construct of wealth.

if one does not desire material wealth, and does not have material wealth, are they in poverty?

there is much that could be taught, but as with everything, should not be forced or proclaimed absolute. To grow we need to allow people to see all the various ways, and give the tools to allow them to make their own journy. THe problems begin when a singular answer is thrust upon the populace.

We are all part of the same thing in this universe thats why God says we are his children and we should treat each other as equals why have the generation of today lost their morals?Children are been born out of sin man is multiplying and eating away at the tree of life I hear branches breaking Mother Earth is angry so she's been wrathful towards us.Why is God going to judge us? because he created the Earth to be a paradise not a wasteland like Iraq and this proves that Satan has lyied and led man away from God, but I have know doubt that soon the time will come when we can defeat evil with the light and a army of Angels then establish a new kingdom Re-Genesis.

Umm I wont do nothing because I don`t believe in god so how can i be judged?! and besides I live by my own morals so I have no reason 2 worry!

Umm, just because you don't believe in "god" doesn't mean you won't be judged when you die, dumbass. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Ah, and this is the biggest bunch of bulls*** I have ever heard. You have no reason to worry because you don't believe? Thats like saying "I can commit a crime and not worry about the legal system because I don't believe in it."

Idiot.

I REPEAT!

Romans 14:10-12

science101,

two points to consider:

1 - does not your bible say that your god gave man free will to choose to follow your god or not? If this is the case than is it not also necessary that your god must accept the actions of the people, no matter what direction they go?

2 - one can only be judge by another if one places value in the judgement of the other. If one has no value in the abrahamic deity, then that deity is powerless to actually judge the individual.

No need to repeat......
I think we got your point the first time.

Of course so many here are making the huge assumption that THEIR religion is the correct one and willing to condemn others based on their beliefs. Keep in mind there are many religions with their own beliefs that have been around long before xianity and many that will be around long after xianity is in the history book in an entry next to all of the Roman gods that have gone out of popularity.

hyperactive:



Yes! Individuals given choice of serving God.



Accept?

John 3:18



Is that what you were looking for?



As your brethren, I am in NO position to pass judgment. However, the Lord will pass judgment over all.

Romans 14:10-12



I sound like a broken record. Don't you think?

I guess we will ALL find out one day hmmm!

So i'm an idiot because I don't believe in what you do? bloody nazi

i agree with you eden that was very offensive to condemn NB's because of his belief. how rude!

Reported!!!..this was uncalled for

science101:

the old "join me or suffer" choice.

However, he can only successfully pass judgement on one if one submits to his judgement. No submission, no power to him. Since many do not recognize him as having any authority, he is rendered impotent by many.

Now, you may say he could take any form he desires to trick one into submitting. What kind of entity is it though that would take that route?

Remember, to be condemned by something that you place no authority in is meaningless, so only those that desire acceptance by this abrahamic deity are in peril.

edited for personal reasons....

Report me all you want.

I did... cuz your attitude sucks...you forget this board is for skeptics to and you calling them names is bang out of order...

hyperactive:

I beg to differ! The Creator can judge whomever he wishes. NONE of us are exempt!

As far as tricking you into submission???? I don't think David Blaine-type antics will be needed! Those that oppose the Kingdom, and accept god (Satan) of this system, have already chosen his/her fate. By taking off the blinders, the outcome can be reversed. If you harden your heart toward God, He will in turn, harden his heart toward you. You are familiar with the term reprobate. Aren't ya?

Another thing...just because you fail to acknowledge His existence doesn't mean He is not there.

Peril?? You mean the antonym of that statement correct? I am resolute carrying out the Lord's will.

i just got off the phone with my god and she said you boys(science101,nightmare911) are being very naughty and will be reborn as pigmy marmosets......................

http://www.honoluluzoo.org/pygmy_marmoset.htm

science101,

anybody can judge, but like I said, if the one being judged does not recognize the authority or value the judge, the judgement is meaningless.

You are resolute in carrying out your gods will. Why does he need you (christians) to carry out his will, his battles, etc, if he is so powerful?

vladdimpailer:

When you get back on the phone with her, tell her science says to go to.................(Gehenna). Does she accept collect calls? I will call her myself!

No, I don't think freewill is mentioned anywhere in the entire Bible.

So if I don't value the AUstralian judicial system, then they have no right to judge me if I break the Law? If I murder someone and say "it is unfair for you to put me in jail because I don't believe in this legal system", then I'll just be let off.....

Nightmare911 - This board is here to discuss, argue and to debate spiritual concepts, ideas and beliefs. It is not here for anyone to ridicule or insult others if they hold a different opinion to yours.

Your judicial system may well put you in a jail for something it has judged you for, but no matter what the system does to you, if you don't recognize its authority and surrender to it, the authority is meaningless. If you do not capitulate to them, the system ultimately loses.

I'm not sure how much sense that makes in practical use, hyper. It sounds like a spiritual ideal, but not something that one necessarily has any control over.

hyperactive:

You really don't believe this do you?

Enter Mexico; disobey their laws or statues; and tell the Federales that you don't recognize their authority. They will imprison you so fast, your only recourse will be to flee captivity & run like a bat out of heck to the the US border. lol

the point is that unless you accept the authority of the system, it can lock you up, in some countries it could torture you or kill you, but if you never accept its authority, it does not accomplish its goals.

The point of the judicial system is that people accept its laws and authority. If nobody accepted this, or at least a critical mass rejected it, the authority would cease to be. It is only in the masses accepting its stature that it has power. The same applies to religious figures. If one rejects the judge, the judge may torture, imprison, kill or whatever but it does not maintain its authority so long as it is rejected by the individual.

This is how the abrahamic laws are derived from human laws. The abrahamic system was built as a "top court" to provide the "ultimate authority" to ensure the functioning of the society. If the people en-masse reject this authority, "the god is dead".

But if such a court exists, then ignoring it isn't going to make it go away, right?

Hmmm my opinion on this is just because you dont know of or believe in the Christian God doesnt automatically mean you wont encounter him in the next life...This is GOD were talking about- just a whee bit more powerful than we are...Yet as mentioned the Christian God (if hes the real one) will allow you to present your case before you when he is to judge you and like my example with the story of Moses- you can reason, persuade and make this God change his mind...its fair enough.

PA, ignoring it doesn't make it go away but rejecting its authority de-tooths it.

ramster, pa, science, there is no authority only the authority you ascribe too......so much of what you beleive CREATES your experiences......constructs are analogous to prisons, let go of the constructs and you percieve tha tgosds are in the minds of men only......

One could call it living in denial

If I knew I was going to die some time soon...the only thing that would annoy me is missing my lil girl and my family (ahem includes my partner lol) and if the time came and there I am in front of the almighty God...I would say -- "Why are you judging me...when you already know what I have done and you know I have always prayed for forgivness ...so if you would please step aside and let me plow on in..ta ta" <-- that sounds like something I would say lol but not in a sarky way..thats just the way I am

If I was cast into hell (which I believe I wont) but IF I was I would torture the living crap out of satan ohh trust me I would



LOL cheer up people

While I agree with the rest of this post, I have to point out that banks do this all the time. It is called 'inkwell money'.

Go to a bank and apply for a loan for 100,000 (dollars, pounds, euros, yen, whatever). Assuming you are approved for the loan, the bank issues you a check for 100,000. Is that money physically in the vault? Nope. Is it issued by any government? Nope again. It is a paper fiat. And agreement between you and the lending organization that the slip of paper in your hands is worth 100,000. You pay that back (plus a hefty interest payment..... ) either by check ( social convention that the slip of paper is worth X amount), or by government issued currency.

Think on it: your employer (most times) issues you a cheque for wages. You take that cheque to your bank and deposit it, and then write personal cheques to pay your debts. But, in actual point of fact, NO MONEY HAS CHANGED HANDS!


>Goldmember voice<

Isn't that vierd?

>end Goldmember voice<

JMPD,

"Printing money" is regulated to control for the value of the currency.

In the case of cranking off X amount of money to eliminate poverty by giving everybody below a threshold Y dollars, would devalue the currency.