Lionel
Sep 27 2003, 07:43 AM
Moscow State University professor Dmitry Goltsov has recently announced about the sensational possibility to travel in time. Cosmologists discovered a new dimension that prejudiced Einstein's theory of relativity. The three-dimensional model is not actual anymore. Cosmologists believe, one may travel in time through black holes with the help of a time machine. The machine will be moving from one black hole to another, which will allow it to travel either to the relative future or the relative past. It will be easy to return to our times too. Yet, it is not known, to which extent the theory is correct - the time machine has not been invented yet. The time machine has been a very popular subject for science fiction writers for decades. Yet, it is generally believed that the idea is absolutely unreal, on one has ever dreamed about it seriously. However, scientists start talking about such a possibility already now. Russia's most outstanding cosmologist Valery Rubakov is the nation's youngest academician - he is 48 years old.
The academician cannot travel in time, although he travels a lot in the real world. He spends most of his time abroad, as a lot of Russian talented scientists do. Valery Rubakov usually comes to Moscow in Indian summer - his favorite time of the year. The academician commented on Dmitry Goltsov's statement.

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Duck_Sh00tEr
Sep 27 2003, 08:43 AM
Cufflink
Sep 27 2003, 11:42 AM
A time machine that travels via black holes?
The first volunteer for that is either very brave, or completely puddled.
Benjo Koolzooie
Sep 27 2003, 11:44 AM
More like "traveling in time may be possible"
Untill it has been done I find it hard to believe.
Engulf
Sep 27 2003, 01:17 PM
well if this really works,i'd travel back to the dino age and get me a lesothosaurus as a pet.
Homer
Sep 27 2003, 02:49 PM
| QUOTE (Benjo Koolzooie @ Sep 27 2003, 07:44 AM) |
More like "traveling in time may be possible"
Untill it has been done I find it hard to believe. |
This really depends on what is meant by
"in time"Since we are all moving
forward in time all the time, this proves that time travel is a fact. However, this doesn't apply to the article, as it discusses about manipulating our movement in time. Very interesting, but I agree with Benjo, until it has been done, it's still just a theory.
Excellent article Lionel
DarkSoul
Sep 27 2003, 05:34 PM
thats sounds cool....
id travel back to a time... when... things were better in my life...
but yeaaaa good article...
seeking
Sep 28 2003, 04:15 AM
i read that article and found it hard to follow, can anyone explain it to me in an easier to understand format
sarkypi
Sep 28 2003, 07:55 AM
| QUOTE (Engulf @ Sep 27 2003, 01:17 PM) |
well if this really works,i'd travel back to the dino age and get me a lesothosaurus as a pet. |
Is that what Dino is (from the Flintstones), cause if it is I want one too
Benjo Koolzooie
Sep 28 2003, 08:19 AM
I always thought it was Deano!
*MoG*
Oct 1 2003, 02:32 PM
Are you sure you guys want a dinosaur for a pet, can you imagine the size of the pooper scooper you would need???
If I could, I'd go back in time to meet my grandparents, I was only a tot when they died, and my Mum gets upset when she talks about them. It would be great to spend a bit of time getting to know them.
Engulf
Oct 1 2003, 05:24 PM
| QUOTE (sarkypi @ Sep 28 2003, 07:55 AM) |
| QUOTE (Engulf @ Sep 27 2003, 01:17 PM) | well if this really works,i'd travel back to the dino age and get me a lesothosaurus as a pet. |
Is that what Dino is (from the Flintstones), cause if it is I want one too |
well it's not as big as Dino (not purplish too

). it's just 35 inches long and a plant-eating dino.perfect dog wannabe
spyro_86
Oct 1 2003, 11:35 PM
I think I would go back in time to the crash landing tha started area 51 with hi-tech weapons and slaughter all the military personal that showed up and make the aliens known to the public. We would then have awesome technology.
Engulf
Oct 2 2003, 09:04 AM
| QUOTE (spyro_86 @ Oct 1 2003, 11:35 PM) |
| I think I would go back in time to the crash landing tha started area 51 with hi-tech weapons and slaughter all the military personal that showed up and make the aliens known to the public. We would then have awesome technology. |
i'll join you spyro
Kismit
Oct 3 2003, 05:24 AM
Has anyone heard of a guy calling himself John Titor or Timetraveller00 , the guy apparently posted on several boards claiming to have come from the future ...
Here's a link to alleged IRC log of a late night chat with John Titor ...
CLICKER
Benjo Koolzooie
Oct 3 2003, 07:10 AM
Quite intresting!
Halo_Jones
Oct 3 2003, 01:41 PM
Sometimes when I read the idiotic replies to certain threads my heart truely sinks, then the more intelligent among us post something that intrests me and gives me hope that this site might get on track again,
Thank you Kismit
I really found John Titor (in Benjo's words) quite intresting and I'd be gratefull if you could provide a few more links about him, if you have any of course. meanwhile I'll have a look myself with the aid of google.
Benjo Koolzooie
Oct 3 2003, 01:47 PM
| QUOTE (Halo_Jones @ Oct 3 2003, 01:41 PM) |
| Sometimes when I read the idiotic replies to certain threads my heart truely sinks, |
Better not be refering to me.
Yea, i forgot to say "Thanks Kismit" I was on a free lesson and was in a rush.
If anyone finds anything else, then I'd like to know about it.
Kismit
Oct 3 2003, 08:44 PM
Awwww Halo Thanx........
I've been spending a little time reading up on the guy . It's not tthe same wall street time traveler we discussed on one of Celti's news stories but it really is interesting none the less .
So here ya go
List of predictions I had a another link bookmarked but I deleted it it's the first link that should come up in a google search for John Titor though ...
Did you check out the pictures of his time machine
HERE complete with owners manual .. I just don't know what to think
Benjo Koolzooie
Oct 3 2003, 09:09 PM
Thanks Kismit!
Yes, ever since you posted it, and I and Halo asked for more info, I decided to read up on John, and I don't know what to make of it. This is deffinetly something intresting.
Kismit
Oct 3 2003, 09:16 PM
Benjo , I know the guy seems like he should be commited but if it's fraudulaent it's very good isn't it ...
I have started a new topic on the time traveller , because I know I don't read every post that is posted on the board , and I thought it was generating enough interest to warrant it .
I'm glad you enjoyed it .
Halo_Jones
Oct 4 2003, 12:13 PM
Thanks again Kismit

I don't know what to make of him but I find his predictions scary if true it would be awfull to be known in history as the people who didn't realise what they had till it was gone.
At least if civil war in USA breaks out we have a few years to get building a nuclear bomb shelter <lol.
Oh and no I wasn't talking about you Benjo
Althalus
Oct 4 2003, 12:33 PM
You all probably know of this link but:
Link to John Titor.com
snuffypuffer
Oct 4 2003, 02:25 PM
You know, I read somewhere, and correct me if I'm wrong, that it is considered theoretically possible to create a time machine, but that you would not be able to go back to a time before the time machine itself was built? So how could John Titor, if he's really a time traveller, get to this time which is obviously before said time machine was created? And how come nobody ever comes up with good predictions, like, you know, everything's gonna work out in the end? It's always gloom and doom. But, with things like the Patriot Act going into law, you wonder if his predictions are all that far off the mark?
Halo_Jones
Oct 4 2003, 02:34 PM
Ahhh now Snuffy prehaps you'd like to explain to us why it's not possible to go back to a time before the time machine was invented?
Ha!

Like you say it's just a theory and as for a future thats sweetness and light well erhemm we're human, look at our history so far!
Maybe his coming could be his way of warning us and giving us the kick up the backside we need to create a future for ourselves that is not all doom and gloom!
Benjo Koolzooie
Oct 4 2003, 02:43 PM
Agreed Halo.
snuffypuffer
Oct 4 2003, 02:56 PM
I read it in a physics book somewhere, never said I remembered exactly where, but all the other theory he puts forth sounds like what I read, about the alternate universes and all that, and you can never get back to the exact continuity you left. I'm not going to go into anymore, so as not to expose my ignorance. I bet Homer could clear it up, he knows about these things. But anyhow, onward and upward. Everybody, whether they're purportedly psychic or from the future, predicts the end of the world as we know it, it's sort of old hat. The only way we'll know for sure if the guy's for real or not is to wait and see, pretty much. Since I live in the US, and absolutely HATE seeing wars happen, I'm hoping he's a fraud. that's just me.
Benjo Koolzooie
Oct 4 2003, 03:20 PM
Got to admit, I find it hard to see how you can actually go back in time/ to the future.
AncientLight
Oct 6 2003, 12:07 AM
That would be just too awesome for words if it's true . Im thinking now that the greys are humans from the future travelling here, so that could be possible now .
Athlon64
Oct 6 2003, 09:40 AM
Yes, the suggestion that aliens could be our descendants travelling back through time is a good one. That would be one possible explanation for why so many of them supposedly look humanoid.
Time travel is a fascinating subject, and it would be truly awesome to be able to go back in time and experience certain places and events of the distant past.
Chris Low.
Benjo Koolzooie
Oct 6 2003, 01:39 PM
| QUOTE (AncientLight @ Oct 6 2003, 12:07 AM) |
That would be just too awesome for words if it's true . Im thinking now that the greys are humans from the future travelling here, so that could be possible now . |
Actually, there was a topic about that. If you search through a few posts, maybe more than a few, you might find it.
thedemonof69
Nov 5 2003, 06:07 AM
Ok, so maybe it's just me...but I have always considered time travel impossible, don't get me wrong....I don't doubt it is possible....but I do. The way I see it...it already happened...maybe not long ago...maybe not presently..but at somepoint it happened (I speak in past tense...and yet....I might be referring to the future I don't know....the only people that know for sure are those who are living it). Lets say this is the base timeline, nothing has happened yet...now...somewhere...someone...creates a time machine. He/She use it...when they go back in time, it creates a new timeline 'cause that timeline's matter quota has been exceeded. Thereby creating an alternate reality. Now we have a base time line that in one instance goes on and in another branches off into an alternate timeline. Eventually, someone somehow will realize just how big of a mistake time travel was. And eventually someone will prevent time travel, and the mess that would have been created, but by doing so a permanent alternative timeline will exist and branch out into chaos, and our base timeline will be left alone, while the other line will eventually come close to destroying itself, then someone will fix it, but the new line that spawns from this secondary line's time travel prevention will branch out into another alternate line, one that will be quite similar to the original alternate line. And so auxilary lines will be spawned and stuck in an eternal loop. Basicly the base line will always be spared and the auxilary line will always suffer.
TheLight
Nov 5 2003, 06:32 AM
I just read the full article and to me it's just complete BS (in my humble opinion):
1. It's based on the string theory which has never predicted anything so far, and a huge majority of scientist consider it to be non-sense (and I tend to understand that). Basically, they found that an old mathematical equation (the Gamma function) was describing the strong nuclear force, since this equation contains in its representation a notion similar harmonics to harmonics, now they try to match every component of the equation to particle, the latest being the null-mass graviton (which is yet to be observed).
2. Black Holes (assuming they exist which already is a lot to assume) bend the space infinitely in their "center" which is why they're called Black Holes, because even the light cannot escape them. So I'd be interested how the the time machine will manage to get out of the black hole. Add to that that the gravity is infinity in a Black Hole and you'll understand why I think this time machine is complete non-sense.
3. And by the way, why would a Black Hole send you forward or backward in time ? Why would anything sens us backward in time ? How do they come up with such non-sense.
Don't get me wrong, it's perfectly known from Einstein relativity (special and general) that we can travel in time but only in fast-forward, not backward as much as I know.
For the people looking for dynosaurs, you have a better chance of getting them by DNA cloning than by time traveling.
TheLight
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