First of all I am not an expert in TK. No one is. There is simply not enough known about how TK actually works for ANYONE to be considered an expert. Anybody who leads you to believe otherwise is full of crap, and that is especially true of anyone that is not even capable of doing it themselves. Of all the psi abilities TK is the least studied and the hardest to learn about. This is probably because it used to be very rare to find people that could perform it when compared to other psi abilities like telepathy and clairvoyance. The good news is there is a particular form of TK that has quite a bit of evidence to back it up. And a lot of people have reported success even though they had no prior experience with any type of psi.

One of things that separates those who can from those who can't is whether or not you believe you can. Same as everything else in life. If you don't think you can you probably can't. So a good way to start is to look at the evidence and decide if you really believe that it's possible. Another way know that it's possible is to watch other people do it. When you see people doing it that will create the belief in the possibility that you could do it to.

The easiest most widely performed TK is something you have probably seen on TV, bending metal with your mind. Often called "spoon bending". You may not think it's as cool as moving objects without touching them, and I would agree with you on that. The point is it's the easiest way to start learning TK. if you learn that first it should make it easier to learn to do other stuff later.

These days there is a lot of information available about this phenomena. Of course there are skeptics, and they will be unable to perform or prove that which they don't believe in. Many of the skeptics will try everything they can think of to convince other people that it's a hoax. If they can find one hoax they will act like every case is a hoax. That's illogical. In fact, it's real if one case is real. Whatever you do have fun with it. You can just search on "spoon bending" and get a boat of information both in support and against this remarkable phenomena.

If there is an expert on this form of tk I think that would be Jack Houck.

i have to agree with you, TK only took me my first try to do. Although the real problem is trying to be able to always do it after that. Imo TK has mostly everything to do with your perception on things. You will never be able to do it if u half-belive in it or think that god will smite you for doing something so powerful. TK is ability where you just have to let everything go and be passive, which is why i think monks learn this abilitiy last.

You practicly have to forget about everything you know about the laws of physics and see it rather from a new perspective. Just imagine the world and yourself as nothing but energy. You being nothing more different then the spoon, sodacan, pencil, etc because you are all energy. Just realize that you yourself are a physical projection of your energy and so is the object your concentrating at. Realize that the whole purpose of the physical aspect of the object is to send your brain a message that its physical pressence is there only so you don't collide with the object or merge by accident with its energy. When you looks at the object just realize how silly the physical border is and forget that it even applies to you. Just feel and see the energy that makes up the object and the pull or push it naturually in the direction you think it should go. This will work like a charm if you keep believing that it is perfectly naturual and possible.

Has anyone had success using this to move objects?

Supposedly a method of doing this is to imagine a tunnel separating you and the object. Imagine you're using your hand to drag the object towards you through the tunnel.

Alright, sorta skimpy on the details, but that's pretty much all I could find. =/

i've tried it before merely out of curiosity, but it didn't work for me. why? i would really love to learn, if it is possible.

First spoon bending is really clever use of physics and NOT telekinesis. Secondly using Insight's title format is rather a cheap attempt to get replies and thirdly I agree with the no true expert speech although its been covered thousants of times.

Unless you have something to say please lets not create copy threads.

Your opinion on psi is well known and hardly worth repeating. Do you have anything new to add?

Your assumption is erroneous. The title is in the interest of balance.

This thread is unique.

Because so many people come here asking about TK someone should make this "sticky" so it won't need to be repeated all the time.

Fall asleep when you are awake, maybe you call it a day dream or a zone out, or even tripping out. I am a expert, i can do anything my mind can fathom. what is real? it is what you choose to not control.

On the contrary, with posts like this, there is always a need it would seem...



You are not a druid on D&D mate. Its a discussion forum. Wake up.



I beg to differ. Just do a search. It takes a few seconds.



Agreed. We need to make a thread with FAQ about psychic abilities. I mentioned that on Insight's thread. maybe a moderator is more suited though for that task.

Finally stop taking personal offence. This is not about you. I just hate repeats...

Biomage, the only offensive thing is the tedium caused by that type of posting.

Lol....sorry man...I get carried away sometimes...

They say imitation is the highest form of flattery. Thus, I must say I am flattered by the imitation of my previous thread. "ImOne" must think highly of me.

Your sense of humor is showing. Honestly though, I do have regard for your intellect, even if I disagree with the way you chose to use it. To each his own, peace on UM. Please be kind to the kiddies.

PS. I thought this thread to be more of an opposite than an imitation. It should be obvious that you provided the inspiration.

Actually, I think this thread compliments my own. I couldn't find anything in your post that I don't agree with.

Then this needs to me merged. I feel like spring cleaning lately....

I don't see how you reconcile your statement above with this post you made in another thread:


Do you work in sales?

Different threads, different speciffics. And no, I don't work in sales. I work in logistics.

And they get the same BS answers. Try this. Try that. None of it works. Admit it to yourself or not, but giving kids some hope of TK is wrong. They should be doing something constructive with their free time. Not trying to move a pencil with their mind.

Jack Houck has taught several thousand people to perform PK.

Here's an interesting paper written by Jack. It includes information on remote viewing too.
RESEARCHING REMOTE VIEWING AND PSYCHOKINESIS

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PK parties with children, opinions and conjecture, and pretty graphs are NOT scientiffic data. His meathods of testing and proving draw upon nothing but human "perception" of supposed events.

"Did you FEEL this?"

"Did you FEEL that?"

It's the same thing that goes on in these forums.

Let me avoid alot of backfire by saying that I believe telekinesis is possible. But Jack Houcks write up, as far as I could tell, didn't really prove that he actually taught 6000 some odd people Telekinesis, or precognition, as he claims.

While his write up was interesting, I don't believe it makes the point you thought it would.

Most of us recognize that science is either unable or unwilling to undertake the task of quantifying psi. So no help from that camp is to be found.

Jack Houck doesn't claim to prove anything. He has done a lot of research into psi and shares some of what he has learned.

"Insight", my point is very clear. Several thousand people have learned PK from Jack Houck, and he wrote an interesting paper. You're welcome to disagree, but my point and opinion stands.

"Insight", my point is very clear. Several thousand people have learned PK from Jack Houck, and he wrote an interesting paper. You're welcome to disagree, but my point and opinion stands.

And my counter point is very clear: The several thousand who have suppoosedly learned PK from Jack Houck used nothing more than a "feeling" to determine a succesful attempt.

By that logic, if I "feel" like I have picked the winning lottery numbers, I have already won the lottery.

You should get a "feeling" this silverware might be bent.



This is a very interesting site about psi:
Jack Houck's Web Site

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Could somone with experience, or sucess maybe point out a few pointers on learning this extrodinary skill?

I find it rather difficult trying to jot down notes in my head as i'm reading paragraph after paragraph on how some things work, while being confused all at the same time

This paper was presented at the Science of Whole Person Healing Conference on March 28, 2003. The purpose was to show that humans do have interaction with and effects on matter. This report captures the results of 22 years of research with experiments in psychokinesis (PK).

This is probably the easiest type of PK to learn to do:
Material Deformation By Intention

ow my head hurts from trying pk!! there goes another day....

I had to do it most of the day and far into the morning to even get a slight headache.

What the hell are you doing?

My belief is that everyone is telekinetic and psychic and has ESP, but most people don't never actually use the power.

Sorry that belief is wrong. If everyone had it, proving it would be easy.

im legitametly curious here... bewcause ive never actually thought about what physics might be involved... but what physics is this demonstrating? i just tried bending a spoon by brute forcing it, nd that didnt work, so what im going to do, is try out your physics explination, nd then ill let you know how it goes