What do you guys think about this article?

http://www.thothweb.com/article2704.html

It proposes some hard to believe things yet offers support to back it up....the article is suggesting that the moon could be artificial and may have been created by aliens thousands of years ago....moon rock analysis found that the moon is approximately a billion years older than the earth...kinda shatters your conceptions about the earth's creation, doesn't it?

It also includes transcripts of several conversations between Apollo astronauts and people at NASA....during a radio broadcast documenting the moon landing, Neil Armstrong mentioned "strange lights" and said "We have company" before NASA shut off the transmission, which suggests to me that they have something to hide, which brings to mind this phrase I once read somewhere on the internet:

Nasa's job is not to reveal the secrets of outer space but to hide the secrets that they have discovered...

Pretty thought-provoking...there is much more I haven't mentioned, I suggest giving the article a look.

my personal opinion about the moon is that it was ejected from the sun when it gained enough mass to achieve nuclear fission/fusion. in that moment , some mass was ejected from the sun, and some of that mass turned into our moon. the side facing the sun was scorched as it moved away from the sun, and cooled unevenly. i personally think it was just dumb luck it ended up where it is at, regardless. i have no evidence for this speculation. it is just a thought on the subject. the moon could be fake, i honestly have no idea lol ive never been there.

i guess what im getting at though, is that there may be more simple, mundane solutions to the engima of the moon.

Thanks for the article, Psychokinesis, it realy got me thinking...

Yeah, thanks, just the subject on my mind these days. I am also curious on why a moon cycle effects the earth if it doesn't really spin. The sun has that much more a powerful influence than the moon. But A full moon is supposed to effect our seas and bodies. ???

I believe it was John Lear who said that when we die our souls are transmitted to these headquaters on the Moon and then analaysed. This supports the theory that the Moon in itself is artificial, and perhaps some areas of the surface are always hidden from us so we do not know whats going on the other side.

heres a link to a breif outline of John Lear and his life background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lear

Anybody read about why there are so many more moon crators than any other planet or moon ? As if the earth should be bombarded with that many ?


maybe that moon thing has been around the galaxy or been in a battle eons ago. At a guess. But surely we should have a huge concentration of crators on the earth ? or mars perhaps ?

The moon doesn't have an atmosphere, Zeus, hence fairly small particles crashing into it will cause quite large craters. The same size particles bombarding the Earth will burn up in the atmosphere layer, before reaching the surface.

Here is a good link to real information about our moon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_moon


Here is a link to a bunch of pseudo scifi nonsense.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/

Enjoy.

My question.....why did all of the Apollo missions land around the same area? If I were a scientist, I'd be looking in areas further away from the other test sites.

http://moon.google.com/

Superb picture @ http://homepage.ntlworld.com/lesley.deegan...oonmosaic80.jpg

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The landsites at Mare Tranquillitatis are not as close as you might think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Tranquillity

yeah that idea has been floating around for years.. an why we were there and never returned is a bit odd

Yes, how the moon's rotation keeps only one side visible, you never know what's on the other side..

The terminator offered the best conditions. Temperature, radiation, and radio communication were, on average, workable.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/zeph.../Ued-1ntitl.jpg

It is convincing.(everything is convincing for me )

It's only a Paper Moon - Nat King Cole

The Moon is TIDALLY LOCKED with earth


We now do know thanks to satellites.


1 word...GRAVITY. The moon is MUCH closer to earth.

The moon is nothing more than a remnant of a collision on earth the ejected material into space. This material later coalesced into our moon, therefore letting all atmosphere escape. It's nothing more than a dead rock.

Yeah, but remember the moon was older than the earth.

That is very convincing that we have an artificial moon, but how can aliens(or Whoever)
build a large artifact in space, I mean it seems impossible. yeah aliens are very smart
but I think the building of an artifact that large in anti-gravity I think will need above
intelligence to be able to proceed such a feat. But an alien base is possible.

But, it really isn't a convincing argument that the Earth's moon is artificial. Don't be so easily convinced, being credulous isn't the best way to go in life. Just about any claim can be made to look good on the surface, it's when you begin to apply some critical thinking that reality comes forth.

Here's one of the leading theories as regards the moon's origin. Read up on the moon, look at what scientific reasoning tells us about the moon. After you do this then some of these more *out there* claims will start to be far less convincing.

Well strangebutsmart, I think it's safe to say if they have figured out interstellar space travel, they have figured out a lot of other things we wouldn't understand, too.

Interesting article, but that's about it.

In my missing and unaccounted for book which I am still looking for, "Alien Agenda", there is a good story about a ship and aliens scaring the astronauts.

Do you have more info of that alien ship that scares the crap out of the astries?

The Earth is constantly being bombarded. Keep in mind that the Earth has its own atmosphere, that alone burns up most of the meteorites that hit us. And also, when they do make it through the atmosphere and hit the Earth to leave a crater, it won't last too long as the surface of the Earth is constantly changing with erosion and weathering among other things.

Not only that, but the Moon's gravitational pull is 7x less than that of the Earth; so it would make sense that when a meterorite hits the moon, more rocks and dust will be displaced longer distances; leaving an apparent larger crater.

Yeah, I found a website with astronauts saying they say UFOs and NASA took it off what he was saying.

I like reading articles like this. Its intriguiguing and makes you think...
I read an interesting article from Richard C. Hoagland about Iapetus, one of the Saturn Moons, being Artificial. It is the only one with different orbit, and its form is the form of a Dodecahedron... I think Iapetus is more Intriguing than our moon.

Heres the link for those who wish to take a look on Iapetus article:
Iapetus - Moon with a View

Richard C. Hoagland is a Dillusioned fool dont believe him

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicphotos.html

http://www.anomalous-images.com/astroufo.html

http://ufocasebook.com/moon.html

http://uplink.space.com/showflat.php?Cat=&...sb=5&o=0&fpart=

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/explorat...oonshadows.html

here's a couple of interesting reads,but as far as taking this seriously, well you be the judge.

i thnk NASA have something to hide like big spaceships and something!

I find it interesting that when you give people scientific data most of the time its being ignored, but put a loonie tune "the moon is made of cheese" post and they all bite.

Anyway, thanks for the link Lilly.

You know, there was a Book written about it in 68. The arguments the author used were pretty consistent...

http://www.chucara.com/livres/186/descrip.htm (french only, sorry)

What marked me the most, was how he taught impossible for the craters to be so wide compare to their lack of deepness. Like if the moon was in fact made of titanium under.


it made few connection with the bible. Content looked alot like that Raelian sect stuff...but istead of saying that the aliens created us, its says that they"woke" us from the Ice Age.. IM pretty sure Rael ripped off that book to make its sect.

Akuma, I´m sorry but can´t just take your judgement on Hoagland and say right!
I think he is a very inteligent guys and some of hes articles and studies are very good.

The one regarding Iapetus is one of them, I don´t know if you take the time to read the entire article but he do not just say things, he shows pictures taken by Cassini and many other studies.


Besides, if hes a fool, he is a fool Aeons away more inteligent than me and you!

Cya!

Well said. This idiots crackpot theories have been shown to be false over and over again. He spouts pseudo-scientist and takes in those people that know no science.

Sadly we live in an era where people will reject the experts and listen to the loons.

The main problem with Hoagland is that he shows too many things in a short period of time. I agree many articles are speculations but the one about Iapetus is intriguing.

Any way, ppl is free to believe or to not believe in things...

Some things are unexplained mysteries...and some aren't. The moon isn't artificial, neither is Iapetus. How can I say this? Evidence, there's simply no real evidence that this stuff is even remotely valid. Oh, there's lots of concocted, *out there* ideas, but nothing that's actually supported by any scientific evidence, though.

As for Mr. Hoagland, I'd say he's pretty intelligent. After all, he's managed to make a pretty good living out of some JPEG pixs (overly compressed images), some very *creative* math, and the gullible attitude of some people. However, that doesn't make the "face" on Mars anything more than a mesa, nor is Iapetus some "alien death star".

See here for some good discussion about the artificial Iapetus claims.

Thx Lilly, I completely agree with you. I am not saying it is artificil, but that it is intriguing. IF he was right. Imagine what could we learn.
I will go see the link you provided.

Take care!

Wow that article was pretty freaky, I can't imagine ever hearing about the moon being put there by aliens to watch us lol

I don't think he is crazy. I think he is a liar that is doing it to make a living. That is worse than crazy.

I knew it. Because I am self aware know...we (the earth) is a experiment made by the aliens. The moon is a some sort of 'watching' tool, big brother...

Whooooo...

Well, my view of Mr. Hoagland is that he's a type of "con man", sort of the PT Barnum of the UFO/Alien "true believers" crowd. Mr. Hoagland specializes in photographic hocus pocus, numerology nonsense, and the fine art of distraction! I've read quite a bit of his stuff...he's pretty good at this sort of thing. However, he doesn't have a scientific leg to stand on. At some point I'd like to attend one of his lectures. I'll bet he's a charismatic speaker, full of what makes the grass grow green (BS), but a good speaker, I'll bet!

The thing i find more interesting is that armstrong said there's something out there. I have never heard that before, Not saying that the video of the landing is fake but if it is that could be why they faked it.

Perhaps they have video of the real landing and it has something strange on it they didn't want the people to see and they still wanted proof that they landed there to make the russians lose interest.

Just a thought from X

Did anyone say Hoaxland!?

Phil Plait does a good job debunking RCH on this site.


Richard Hoagland's Nonsense.
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/index.html

In the good ol' days when I was engineering electronics back in Silicon Valley (the birthplace of modern electronis, whether you like it or not, and the world's foremost research and idea production in electronics, again whether you like it or not), we engineers, be it BS, MS, or PhD, had a saying: AN EXPERT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A DRIP UNDER PRESSURE.
It would be wise of you 'scientists' to remember that when reading the 'expert' knowledge in any field.
But now I'm tired of it all, and do my own thing, such as inventing free energy machines.

I did read an article once (couldn't say where or when, other than it was a 'science' mag) that claimed that when the USSR sent a nuclear device to the moon, the first time they missed due to gravity calculations that assumed the 1/6 g, but hit the moon the second time, and when the thing went off, the moon 'rang like a bell'.
OK. If that's true...

That's no moon. It's a space station.

3 pages and no one mentioned it yet.

^----- LoL



LoL it's kind of like that thread in the Crypto section of the "Non-human caught on film"

You tell them it's probably a dog at a weird angle and some people will tell you how utterly RIDICULOUS that statement is.. clearly it's a creature from another planet and dimension that was out for a walk.

No, it's a space station in the moon.

1.If their moon is a watching tool, than why are they visiting our planet?
2. You can't be aware of something that hasn't been proven real.

I never though about this.I was reading this ................and its scary only just thinking about

According to NASA, Luna 2 was a spherical spacecraft. The instrumentation included scintillation/geiger-counters, magnetometer, micrometeorite detectors. Also carried Soviet pennants, and no propulsion systems.

On 12 September 1959, it separated from its third stage, which travelled along with it towards the Moon. On 14 September, after 33.5 hours of flight, radio signals from Luna 2 abruptly ceased, indicating it had impacted on the Moon. Some 30 minutes after, the third stage of its rocket also impacted the Moon. The mission confirmed that the Moon had no appreciable magnetic field, and found no evidence of radiation belts at the Moon.

and...

The 1963 Limited Test Ban Treaty (LTBT) prohibits nuclear weapons tests "or any other nuclear explosion" in the atmosphere, in outer space, and under water, and prohibits underground nuclear explosions that cause radioactive debris...(US, UK, USSR).

The US had some impactor spacecraft pre-Apollo, as well as during the A13-17 missions. On A-13, the S-IVB rocket stage made an evasive maneuver (televised) and a propulsion burn aimed the S-IVB for an impact 137 km from the Apollo 12 seismometer. The signal generated by the impact lasted 3 hours plus, and was so strong that a ground command was necessary to reduce seismometer gain and keep the recording on the scale...

The suprathermal ion detector (Apollo 12) recorded a jump in the number of ions from zero at the time of impact up to 2,500 shortly thereafter and then back to a zerocount ( 6,300-10,300 K temperature generated by impact, or particles at 60 km ionized by sunlight).

Lunar Module ascent stages were also crashed into the moon to provide seismic signals.

And, so forth.

There are perhaps nine geologic zones between the core and the lunar surface.

Images-

• Luna 2
  
• Various Apollo seismometer data results