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IndigoChild
Do you think its possible that our furry friends have capabilities we can only dream of? I always wondered if cats and dogs could see beings... from the other side. Of course we would never know because of communication barriers, but how would we ever know the possibilities if we could not further explore them? Afterall, cats and dogs supposedly see things in a whole different spectrum as we do, pardon the pun. [They're colorblind in popular belief.] So maybe their eyes are more vulerable to seeing things that just go past us?

I've always had suspicions that mah cat wasn't just psycho. I'm sure that she's seen ghosts of some sort, she acts so possessed sometimes its creepy. ohmy.gif For one thing, shes incredibly paranoid and if you pounce on her from behind or simply brush past her when she's lying down her hair jumps.

Certain sounds around the house trigger a reaction on her where she'll run in a panic frenzy for cover, like the sound of the doorbell or the microwave going off. And on occassion I'll find her all of a sudden looking up at the ceiling furiously, focusing her stare on something and moving "with it". She'll follow a trail of whatever it is she's looking at. Take today for instance, I came home and found her on top of the piano staring at the ceiling wall, and trying to crawl towards it to get a better look. Well, I looked up and there was nothing there. It was very unlike her, and lately I'll find her in the most unusual spost in the house doing her staring routine.

Also, she seems to run up the stairs frantically out of the blue. I know most cats tend to do things of this nature, but I know that it just has to be more than that. The other day, I was awake around 2 a.m. and was startled at the sound of a loud thud coming from the entrance of the house, when everyone else was asleep. I didn't even know that she was down there, but after hearing that I saw her sprint upstairs and cower under a couch. I still don't see what could have dropped to scare her without human force.

I had one incident where she was sleeping in mah bed and I was studying or reading. It was around 12:30 p.m. at night, and usually everyone else is asleep by then with an exception of mah mother who likes to check up on everyone before she gets to bed and checks the thermostat. Well, I began to hear soft footsteps on the carpet of the hallway. At first I didn't think much of it as I wrote it off as mah brother taking a trip to the bathroom or mah mom coming to check on the thermostat, but it sure did perk mah cat up, her name's Darcy, by the way. Her tail began wagging and she leaped out of bed and stood by mah dresser to get a good look at WHATEVER it was she was staring at, while still hiding from it. I finally mustered up the courage to take a look, and when I got up to take a look at it, nothing was there.

Coincidence? Who knows... I do believe that cats and dogs have better connections to the paranormal than we do, but it's not like they could ever tell us about it over a beer or something... hmm.gif
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well its been scientifically proven that cats and dogs see in black and white, because they have more 'cone' receptors in theyre eyes which pick up light intensity and allow us humans to see in the dark. thats why we can only see near enough black white at night.

also animals have better senses of hearing and such like, i believe it to be fully possible that they can eperience the paranormal at a level that we as humans cannot.
exeller
I don't they do. I think when they stare at something, they hear a sound from it. I whached a tv show that tried to explain the unusual behavior of animals. They said that animals look at walls because they hear rats walking throught them - or something like that.
IndigoChild
QUOTE(exe11er @ Apr 19 2006, 05:42 PM) [snapback]1155317[/snapback]

I don't they do. I think when they stare at something, they hear a sound from it. I whached a tv show that tried to explain the unusual behavior of animals. They said that animals look at walls because they hear rats walking throught them - or something like that.


*shrieks* I would hope rats aren't walking along the inside of mah house. wacko.gif
exeller
QUOTE(IndigoChild @ Apr 19 2006, 10:47 PM) [snapback]1155320[/snapback]

*shrieks* I would hope rats aren't walking along the inside of mah house. wacko.gif


laugh.gif yeah maybe that made me sound a little wacko. I'm just saying that maybe when animals are staring at something, they are hearing a noise coming from the direction of the object, not seeing a ghost.
Ancient World Wonders
Well, cats ARE associated with the supernatural, but dogs have no connection. However, cats and dogs have been known to be sensitive to other forces that humans are blind to. For example, they know when a storm is coming when it's miles away just by sniffing the air.
bubs_satansreject
Well, I believe that cats and dogs can sense paranormal and I have heard stories about how these animals behave differently to show that they are aware of these spirits being around them.

I think there was one story long ago that I was told by a friend of my parents where they found their dog constantly staring and barking at a corner for weeks in their garden and it was always at a certain time of day as well (sorry, I can't remember the exact details.) Anyway, they believe in the paranormal and got a medium to check out if there was a spirit hanging out there or something strange. It turned out there was a spirit there and it hid in their garden is because the house that it usually haunts was turned into a building site a few weeks ago so the ghost sort of moved to somewhere esle because it didn't like the loud noises (I am not sure about this point ) or something.
Red Dwarf
they are supposed to be more sensitive to things like this than we are.however i would imagine if you cat is staring towards the ceiling and following something around it is more than likely a particle of dust hast caught its eye.

As for the ghost in the garden story.come on! Mediums?im not saying that no such people would exist but would they sell their ability to randoms and prance about in gardens finding ghosts or would they use their abilities to once and for all prove the existance of ghosts....May have been more believable had there been a medium there that had spoke of a ghost recently moving to the garden and then afterwards the dog had a funny reaction to that particular space.However, when you bring in a "medium" and say,"Look the dog has been acting really strange in the garden recently is there a ghost?" how many of them will then say,"No sorry, since i didnt find anything this visit is free".......none.as i said im not saying people with such abilities aren't real but i dont think they would advertise their services to any old person who will pay. as ive said, why not use it to prove ghosts are real?far more money involved.

I imagine you have heard of a man called Derren Brown? well he has proven that with no psycic ability whatsoever he can perform readings on people and give them information that there is no way he could know.he can act as a medium to such effect that evryone believed he was the real thing. He isnt, and says so himself he did such things to prove how much trickery is involved in such practises and how people are gullible enough to be duped into believing anything.

Its a shame really because if someone ever does come along that has an actual real ability it will be shrouded by all this rubbish.For all we know there already is someone and thay arent believed purely because of charlatons like the ones i have mentioned
Bogeyman
I dont think they can because i've got 2 very different dogs and i've often walked them through the graveyard.When i do i'll watch their reactions to see if they look at a particulat place or if they act as if they see someone....they never have (only live people wacko.gif )
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Cats by nature are very cautious and tend to jump or react to the slightest noise ...this is their survival instinct kicking in......but who knows ....
ShadowLady
I have seen my cat on numerous occasions play with invisable things on the floor or stare at something I could'nt see. blink.gif My dog on the other hand, has never shown any weird behavior, other than the fact that she WILL NOT go into the basement. I have to physically pick her up and carry her down the stairs. She shakes the whole time and then tears ass up the steps. rofl.gif
novaceleste
I believe that most animals can sense more paranormal events. I beileve that humans could a long time ago, before we became self involved, materalistic morons. I think it is just natural to sense this. But, I think cats are more "in tune" to the spiritual.
earthchick
QUOTE((31oha2a121) @ Apr 19 2006, 07:34 PM) [snapback]1155305[/snapback]

well its been scientifically proven that cats and dogs see in black and white, because they have more 'cone' receptors in theyre eyes which pick up light intensity and allow us humans to see in the dark. thats why we can only see near enough black white at night.

also animals have better senses of hearing and such like, i believe it to be fully possible that they can eperience the paranormal at a level that we as humans cannot.



That dogs and cats can only see black and white is nothing more than folklore. Scientific tests have proven that they do see colours, though in a more limited range than we do. The following is about dogs, but it is the same for cats as well. They actually have fewer cone receptors than we do.

"dogs do see color, but in a more limited range than that seen by normal humans, who see the rainbow of colors described by "VIBGYOR": Violet, Indigo, Blue, Green, Yellow, Orange, and Red (plus hundreds of variations on these shades). Instead, dogs see "VIBYYYR" (Violet, Indigo, Blue, Yellow, Yellow, Yellow, and Red). The colors Green, Yellow, and Orange all look alike to dogs; but look different from Red and different from the various Blues and Purples. Dogs are very good at telling different shades of VIB apart. Finally, Blue-Green looks White to dogs.

The simple explanation for these differences in color vision is this. The retinas of normal humans have three (3) types of color receptors, called "cones". Each cone type is particularly sensitive to light of a narrow limit within the entire VIBGYOR range. That means that three different "cone lines" of communication run back to the visual part of the brain, which then compares the weight of the signals coming in from each of cone "line". Different weights produce a perception of different colors. In dogs (and in "green-blind" humans), there are only two (2) types of cones, so there is less basis for comparison by the brain, and thus the perceived color range is more limited. In sum, dog color vision is "color-limited", not "color-blind".


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I personally believe that all animals are highly sensitive to spirits. I think it is part of their built-in intuitiveness.......something we humans all had too at one time in our evolution, but have lost to a great extent.

bubs_satansreject
QUOTE(earthchick @ Apr 20 2006, 05:03 PM) [snapback]1156376[/snapback]

That dogs and cats can only see black and white is nothing more than folklore. Scientific tests have proven that they do see colours, though in a more limited range than we do. The following is about dogs, but it is the same for cats as well. They actually have fewer cone receptors than we do.

"dogs do see color, but in a more limited range than that seen by normal humans, who see the rainbow of colors described by "VIBGYOR": Violet, Indigo, Blue, Green, Yellow, Orange, and Red (plus hundreds of variations on these shades). Instead, dogs see "VIBYYYR" (Violet, Indigo, Blue, Yellow, Yellow, Yellow, and Red). The colors Green, Yellow, and Orange all look alike to dogs; but look different from Red and different from the various Blues and Purples. Dogs are very good at telling different shades of VIB apart. Finally, Blue-Green looks White to dogs.

The simple explanation for these differences in color vision is this. The retinas of normal humans have three (3) types of color receptors, called "cones". Each cone type is particularly sensitive to light of a narrow limit within the entire VIBGYOR range. That means that three different "cone lines" of communication run back to the visual part of the brain, which then compares the weight of the signals coming in from each of cone "line". Different weights produce a perception of different colors. In dogs (and in "green-blind" humans), there are only two (2) types of cones, so there is less basis for comparison by the brain, and thus the perceived color range is more limited. In sum, dog color vision is "color-limited", not "color-blind".


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I personally believe that all animals are highly sensitive to spirits. I think it is part of their built-in intuitiveness.......something we humans all had too at one time in our evolution, but have lost to a great extent.


thumbsup.gif Good one earthchick. Thanks for that.
Overcoming fears?
One of my cats always stares & jumps at the same wall. A cat i had a few yrs ago would swear at that wall. On the other side of this wall is a bedroom that nobody sleeps in anymore. Two people have seen the same strange woman in there, dark hair, not the most attractive (described as witch-like). Four people have used that room as a bedroom over the years we've been there (since 1992). Two of them went totally off the rails w/ rage etc & the other two kept having dreams where they were being strangled... by the same strange woman. After having very bad dreams about the house (featuring an old fireplace inside the room that i wasn't aware of until after my dreams), i asked a 90 yr old neighbour about the people who used to live there. It turns out a married couple built the house & lived there until the woman's untimely death in the house. She wouldn't say anything else, even tho she's just next door & she's very friendly to us, we see her every day, help her with her groceries & yard, give her a lift here & there. She never accepts our invitations to come over for lunch, bbq, birthdays etc.
But yes, i believe at least some animals can see/sense entities that we cannot.
IndigoChild
QUOTE(Overcoming fears? @ Apr 20 2006, 09:17 PM) [snapback]1157257[/snapback]

One of my cats always stares & jumps at the same wall. A cat i had a few yrs ago would swear at that wall. On the other side of this wall is a bedroom that nobody sleeps in anymore. Two people have seen the same strange woman in there, dark hair, not the most attractive (described as witch-like). Four people have used that room as a bedroom over the years we've been there (since 1992). Two of them went totally off the rails w/ rage etc & the other two kept having dreams where they were being strangled... by the same strange woman. After having very bad dreams about the house (featuring an old fireplace inside the room that i wasn't aware of until after my dreams), i asked a 90 yr old neighbour about the people who used to live there. It turns out a married couple built the house & lived there until the woman's untimely death in the house. She wouldn't say anything else, even tho she's just next door & she's very friendly to us, we see her every day, help her with her groceries & yard, give her a lift here & there. She never accepts our invitations to come over for lunch, bbq, birthdays etc.
But yes, i believe at least some animals can see/sense entities that we cannot.


Thanks for sharing your story, and it was a good one. thumbsup.gif Hmm, could be could be. I do think you're right [everyone]; most animals- cats and dogs at least- are more aware of the ...unknown. blink.gif

I was trying to figure out, if there is any paranormal activity going on in the house, what source it would be coming from. We're the first family to live in this house as mah parents bought the land and it was built on it. And fact is, no one else has previously lived here before... Odd. I'll have to check that out somehow. I just dunno who to go to is all. hmm.gif

Ace
Melly
Because of their supersensitivity, cats and dogs, sense things that we humans cannot. But I think this goes with most animals, a survival instinct. They can sense emotions, whisper quiet sounds, even things that are not visible to the naked human eye. My cat is always staring into the air and she tends to follow object through the air that aren' t there.

Jsilvestro
I totally believe that cats and dogs see Ghost/Spirits. I have a dog that starts growling and barking all the time at night. usually between 3:00 & 3:33am (not to happy about that one though...)
Bearly
QUOTE(IndigoChild @ Apr 21 2006, 04:42 AM) [snapback]1157380[/snapback]

Thanks for sharing your story, and it was a good one. thumbsup.gif Hmm, could be could be. I do think you're right [everyone]; most animals- cats and dogs at least- are more aware of the ...unknown. blink.gif

I was trying to figure out, if there is any paranormal activity going on in the house, what source it would be coming from. We're the first family to live in this house as mah parents bought the land and it was built on it. And fact is, no one else has previously lived here before... Odd. I'll have to check that out somehow. I just dunno who to go to is all. hmm.gif

Ace



I have seen cats before that all of a sudden start staring at nothing and get a wide eyed look and their pupils widen and their eyes look out of focus. It is as if they are seeing something in a different spectrum as was posted previously. So for what it's worth, yes I think cats and possibly other animals can sense can see the paranormal. It is said that the spirits that have passed exist at a higher rate of vibration than people on the earth plane, so maybe cats can see these entities even though they exist at a higher vibration. To tell you the truth, I am not sure what people mean by higher (faster?) vibration and why that would not allow us to see the spirits, I am justing passing on things that I have heard.
.JJ.
Well, I've taken my dog, a miniature poodle on investigations with me before b/c I've always wondered this too. He would begin growling & barking 2-3 sec. right before I'd get spikes on an EMF meter at a location, so yes I think they can pick up on these things.
Immortal Norway
Not shure about this, but last week I were on a skiing trip, and our teacher`s dog suddenly started to yell like Hell into nowere... like if there were someone there...
Lady_Anvilabeel
Yep, got no doubts that animals can sense and see. We would be ignorant to think otherwise. At least they still have for the most part there sixth sense intact, as for us humans.........
Xoisk el Soņador
I believe animals may have a better ability of seeing ghosts, only because of their difference of senses. Probably involving their ability to hear too, just a thought though.
hellcow
[font="Franklin Gothic Medium"][/font] it was weird last night i was sitting on my computer watching my 2 baby cats play and one ran to the other side of the room and the other one ran toward her and stopped dead in its tracks and look right behind me like it was looking at something and its eyes got bigger and the it ran the other way so i got online to see if i could get some answers about it so i was wonder if you guys could tell me???
zukie&jim
our dogs "see" all kinds of stuff . one of them "ole-dude" he is a bit far-sighted . sometimes they see eddie-joe the local decon/sneak thief. sometimes they see bears, bob-cats, and other "boogers"-- nothing comes around that they don't know about--

the cat she likes to watch TV--
Uh-Oh
I believe that animals can sense things we can't. I'm not sure if they actually see the ghosts, but I'm sure they can sense them. Just like they can sense 'bad' people in real life. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a normally friendly dog go completely crazy barking and growling at one person only to have that person go psycho. You know, angry drunks who want nothing more than to beat people up, burglars, etc. I used to have a dog who seemed to watch things walk around in our house, though I never saw whatever she did.

Here's a story that I thought would be worth mentioning. I was visiting my cousin's once and was home alone. Her husband drives an ambulance so he was gone and she was at work as a teacher's assistant. Her husky was outside in the yard so it was just me and the beagle(dog) in the house. I was watching TV in a chair about five-six feet in front of the tv. To my right is a couch against the wall where the dog was sitting. It's a little bit in front of the chair I was sitting in so I can see the dog next to me. The TV was turned down low because I couldn't find the clicker to turn it up. All of the sudden, I hear my cousin call my name from the kitchen (behind me.) It was a very loud and very distinct 'Becky!' It was also her voice. The dog jumped up and looked over toward the sound with her tail wagging. I guess because she thought her 'mama' was home. I was so convinced it was my cousin that I got up and went looking for her to see why she was home from work so early. She wasn't. The only thing that keeps me from thinking it was my imagination was that the dog heard it too.
JustNormal
Speaking of sensitive cats, this was on the news this evening...He predicts death of elderly patients..





http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/07/25/8...patients-deaths
Shankpin
Animals are much more sensitive to these types of things than we are...
Watchful
There are a couple of experiences with various pets of mine that make me believe they can sense and see spirits. One of them is with my dog, a year and a half year old golden retriever. I have been in the house that we live in now, for about three years. Sometimes, my dog will bark at the front foyer area of the house. Most of the times at the front door. There is no one around outside or inside to warrant his barking. It sometimes comes to growling too. It doesn't happen too often, but there are times when I wonder what he is barking at. There was one time, where it was just me in the livingroom, watching tv, when I heard, or what I thought I heard footsteps at the foyer. I could be hearing things, but then my dog poked his head up, staring at the foyer, and growled and barked at it. Makes me wonder.

When I lived in the military house in New Jersey, I had a particular tabby, that on two times she would hiss at something and backup quickly. I witnessed it twice, once with my husband. A skeptic in things like this, and witnessed that cat doing that. By the way, I really believe that military house was haunted.

Though, having to watch, and own cats, being a cat lover, there are some cat behaviors that may seem unusual when actually they are doing something understandable. A couple of my cats now, and one that lived with us in Jersey, would look up at a wall and at first I couldn't see anything. Then at closer inspection I realize it's a bug, and that the cat is eyeing ready to get it. They tend to get a different meow, like a stacato soft mew. So, sometimes, really look to see what your pet is staring at.

What I am saying, that I don't doubt they might be able to see spirits, I think some of my pets have seen them. I also think what they do see, is smaller things that you can eventually see to.
Please Explain
I think animals can't see ghost or spirits.
Probably they could smelled it or sensed.
primordial
Cats think they are Gods....
She-ra
I do think animals can sense spirits.

Here's a clip I found; not the most convinciing but I still think it can happen!

Dog looking at spirit<---Click Here



MasterPo
Considering the advanced senses of animals (ex: a cat's sense of smell is 9 times better than our own) it is possible I think they can sense things we can't.
Ozi
personally in my culture and religious beliefs, it is thought that all animals bar a few do see other things which we cannot see. I dont believe in ghosts as such but i do believe in other phenomena, but ghosts are not real.

I have seen cats get frightened and even dogs, they whimper and try and run away. When this happened, i never saw the thing that scared them, but did feel a presence and a smell of sulphur or something.

I understand the biological differences between animals and humans, but i believe animal do catch sight of things from alternate dimensions etc.

not just dogs and cats, i have seen cows and other animal act weirdly too, i live in a quite rural area and walk through many fields etc. Sometimes you see cows or bulls acting irractically, as though something is messing with them and you can normally see the fear in their eyes and they try and flee.

Just thought i would add my experience too
Barek Halfhand
Cats know when we are going to die huh.gif ...dogs can walk for thousands of miles to find their owners....the existance of pet PSI is no longer in question really...... what about dog/cat mediumship?....B


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Isis2200

Yes, I believe dogs and cats do see ghosts and any number of other ultradimensional entities not able to be seen in our dimension.

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coldethyl
QUOTE(hellcow @ Jul 26 2007, 03:55 PM) *
[font="Franklin Gothic Medium"][/font] it was weird last night i was sitting on my computer watching my 2 baby cats play


I believe animals can sense things we can't. Paranormal? I don't know.

Baby cats are called kittens. thumbsup.gif
xBananax
While it may not be paranormal, I do believe some animals/insects/etc can sense or see things we cannot.

The first example that pops into my head on the subject is some animals can sense massive weather changes before they happen. My own personal theory is these animals have a totally different sense from our own known senses, or perhaps just an enhanced version such as some snakes being able to see/detect infrared light.

We could never comprehend what some animals *might* have in the aspects of senses. Imagine someone being born without eyes due to a birth defect. That person could never experience or comprehend vision because they lack the sense that allows them to see. If your reading this then in your cases even after you close your eyes or block your vision, the sense is still there and is telling/showing you blackness due to lack of light. Imagine taking that away, completely voiding yourself from that form of input and you can compare that concept to what different senses some animals may have that we could never comprehend.

There may be hundreds, if not infinite amounts of frequencies, light waves, matter, planes, etc that we will never be able to comprehend due to our lacking of sense that can detect or decipher them. Who knows, maybe we live within a spiritual plane of ghosts and past relatives and are simply unable to sense or comprehend it.

Although science and technology have slowly revealed things to us that we could never discover or detect ourselves such as infrared light, certain sound frequencies, etc. Maybe its possible that at some point in time technology will be able to actually prove ghost exist in their definitive term, or that they're simply an previously undiscovered energy source that can directly affect things in weird and odd ways.

Isis2200
QUOTE(xBananax @ Jul 28 2007, 09:32 AM) *
The first example that pops into my head on the subject is some animals can sense massive weather changes before they happen. My own personal theory is these animals have a totally different sense from our own known senses, or perhaps just an enhanced version such as some snakes being able to see/detect infrared light.


I do feel that animals are sensitive to frequency vibrations. They're like psychic sensitives but only in the animal world. Have you ever noticed an animal such as a dog or cat that goes and jumps in someone's lap while they never go up to another person. They can sense that positive and negative energy.

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There may be hundreds, if not infinite amounts of frequencies, light waves, matter, planes, etc that we will never be able to comprehend due to our lacking of sense that can detect or decipher them. Who knows, maybe we live within a spiritual plane of ghosts and past relatives and are simply unable to sense or comprehend it.


Yes, I think that's the case.

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Although science and technology have slowly revealed things to us that we could never discover or detect ourselves such as infrared light, certain sound frequencies, etc. Maybe its possible that at some point in time technology will be able to actually prove ghost exist in their definitive term, or that they're simply an previously undiscovered energy source that can directly affect things in weird and odd ways.


yeah, maybe some day we'll be able to tap into those areas of the Superspectrum previously unexplored.

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Barek Halfhand
And coming this fall to UPN:

The Clair Voiyant Cat
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JustNormal
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 28 2007, 03:23 PM) *
And coming this fall to UPN:

The Clair Voiyant Cat
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Mr Halfhand




AWW Psycho Kitty? passifier.gif
siddnoz
Hi Everyone,
I wanted to put a couple questions out there.

Incident #: A couple of nights ago my one year old schnauzer awoke at about 2am, hopped out of bed, gazed up at an empty space on my bedroom wall. This is a wall with no windows. There are decor objects on the wall. However, Oz was staring at a large empty spot. He then began to growl, bark, and back up. He never took his eyes of this spot. I got out of bed, sat on the floor and comforted him. It was difficult to get his attention. When I stopped petting him he went right back to looking at the spot about midway up the wall, and barking and growling. My 10 year old schnauzer didn't lift his head. Neither of my dogs have ever done this before.

I wondered at the time if he saw a ghost.

Incident #2: Then tonight (two days later) about 8pm I was working on my laptop. I noticed all evening my young dog, Oz, seemed restless. He normally rests comfortably in his soft basket at my side. But he would not stay there. Instead, he went in the hallway where the stairs and other rooms meet, and just looked down the hall, and was very watchful to the stairs and other rooms. He lay down for a little while, but then got up and looked uneasy. It finally really got my attention from the computer and I started to watch him to see what was bothering him. He then jumped up from the floor and backed up a little, and I SAW, on the wood floor in front of him, a bright white light or glow appear. It was diffused looking or muted at the edges, and was the size of a small tea saucer, with another smaller roundish light with it, overlapping. It was brighter than the light that would come from my flashlights, and intense, but not as intense as a laser style light. He was there for a moment, then moved around just a little in the same space, kinda of wiggling, then was gone. I said to my dog, "I saw it too, Oz.", and my dog seemed to calm down.
I did not, however, calm down. So I grabbed Oz, and my resting older dog who again didn't seem to be alarmed, and left the house. Before I left, I tryed to consider how a light could shine on my hall floor from outside. Couldn't think of a way.
After I gathered a friend, we came back to investigate. We tried to make a light shine on the spot from every possible angle from outside. We could not get a light to shine there.
So, any ideas?
AND, do you think the two incidences are connected?

End note: I do not believe the wall incident was related to rodents, or other animal noises in the wall. Firstly, I listened closely and did now hear anything. ( I have freakishly good, if not supernatural hearing. Everyone says so.) And secondly, my dogs have heard rodents in walls in the past , and I could not get them to show any interest whatsoever. However, the rodents were never in my bedroom walls. Also, the rodents here never carry bright lights, to our knowledge. Anyway, any ideas other than rodents? Thanks for your help.
JustNormal
QUOTE(siddnoz @ Oct 4 2007, 06:37 AM) *
Hi Everyone,
I wanted to put a couple questions out there.

Incident #: A couple of nights ago my one year old schnauzer awoke at about 2am, hopped out of bed, gazed up at an empty space on my bedroom wall. This is a wall with no windows. There are decor objects on the wall. However, Oz was staring at a large empty spot. He then began to growl, bark, and back up. He never took his eyes of this spot. I got out of bed, sat on the floor and comforted him. It was difficult to get his attention. When I stopped petting him he went right back to looking at the spot about midway up the wall, and barking and growling. My 10 year old schnauzer didn't lift his head. Neither of my dogs have ever done this before.

I wondered at the time if he saw a ghost.

Incident #2: Then tonight (two days later) about 8pm I was working on my laptop. I noticed all evening my young dog, Oz, seemed restless. He normally rests comfortably in his soft basket at my side. But he would not stay there. Instead, he went in the hallway where the stairs and other rooms meet, and just looked down the hall, and was very watchful to the stairs and other rooms. He lay down for a little while, but then got up and looked uneasy. It finally really got my attention from the computer and I started to watch him to see what was bothering him. He then jumped up from the floor and backed up a little, and I SAW, on the wood floor in front of him, a bright white light or glow appear. It was diffused looking or muted at the edges, and was the size of a small tea saucer, with another smaller roundish light with it, overlapping. It was brighter than the light that would come from my flashlights, and intense, but not as intense as a laser style light. He was there for a moment, then moved around just a little in the same space, kinda of wiggling, then was gone. I said to my dog, "I saw it too, Oz.", and my dog seemed to calm down.
I did not, however, calm down. So I grabbed Oz, and my resting older dog who again didn't seem to be alarmed, and left the house. Before I left, I tryed to consider how a light could shine on my hall floor from outside. Couldn't think of a way.
After I gathered a friend, we came back to investigate. We tried to make a light shine on the spot from every possible angle from outside. We could not get a light to shine there.
So, any ideas?
AND, do you think the two incidences are connected?

End note: I do not believe the wall incident was related to rodents, or other animal noises in the wall. Firstly, I listened closely and did now hear anything. ( I have freakishly good, if not supernatural hearing. Everyone says so.) And secondly, my dogs have heard rodents in walls in the past , and I could not get them to show any interest whatsoever. However, the rodents were never in my bedroom walls. Also, the rodents here never carry bright lights, to our knowledge. Anyway, any ideas other than rodents? Thanks for your help.


Hi, It sounds like the white saucer thing you and Oz saw was possibly an orb, which is of course paranormal in nature. Seems doggie is very intuitive, and obviously it was not a rodent as they dont glow LOL..Maybe next time OZ stares simply take a few photos and see if you capture anything. This could be a spirit, possibly friend or loved one just visting, as white is normally a good sign. I see them too as do my birds and once I talk to them they calm down, because not sure what they understand but I tell them "its ok I see it too" and they stop being so scared. Take some photos, and try to not to show fear and let us know what else happens.Good Luck..JN
Jewels1958
I definitely believe that animals can see/sense things that we can't. When I was about 13 my family lived in an apartment in a converted turn-of-the-century hospital. That place seemed to be very haunted with everyone having "experiences". Well my mom was into seances and ouija boards at the time and decided to have a ouija/seance session in the living room. We had candles and the ouija board on the coffee table, the lights turned low and did our ouija/seance thing. Suddenly we heard hissing from the Kitchen doorway. One of our cats had started to come into the living room but stopped, arched his back, fizzed up his tail and was hissing like mad, all while staring at the coffee table. He made it very clear that he saw something there and he didn't like the looks of it. He wanted to go upstairs (on the opposite side of the room), so he walked as far around the table as he could, hissing and glaring the whole time. About that time, my little sister woke up screaming upstairs. She was about 5 at the time, but she told us that a freezing cold hand touched her face and woke her up. I always figured that one of the nurses still wandered around checking on patients. original.gif

oh and btw, I think that was the last seance/ouija board playing my mom did. I think it spooked her. lol
siddnoz
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Oct 4 2007, 12:19 AM) *
Hi, It sounds like the white saucer thing you and Oz saw was possibly an orb, which is of course paranormal in nature. Seems doggie is very intuitive, and obviously it was not a rodent as they dont glow LOL..Maybe next time OZ stares simply take a few photos and see if you capture anything. This could be a spirit, possibly friend or loved one just visting, as white is normally a good sign. I see them too as do my birds and once I talk to them they calm down, because not sure what they understand but I tell them "its ok I see it too" and they stop being so scared. Take some photos, and try to not to show fear and let us know what else happens.Good Luck..JN


JustNormal and Jewel,
Thanks for your responses. I've calmed down since it happened, and so has my dog. It was an odd experience, but now I'm more curious than frightened, thanks in part to your comments. For whatever reason, I'd been talking out loud to a couple of departed relatives, and sensing answers to my questions. For example, I'd forgotten someones middle name, so I asked a departed relative and I heard the name immediately, and in the voice of the person I asked. Plus I ask my Dad for home repair advice and get answers. It's funny that I never considered this anything but "normal" until the incidents with my dog, Ozzie. I guess it didn't seem as "real" until someone else verified it for me. LOL. It didn't even occur to me until last evening that the two dog events could have anything to do with my Dad and Mom, who has passed on. But now I think maybe so!

I have more questions, but they do not involve the dogs. As this thread is about dogs and cats, should I try to find a different thread? I'm kinda new to this.

Thanks again for answering. It is a comfort to know what is going on, and that others have similar experiences.
primordial
I seen all types of cats curling up to patients who died shortly in Nursing Homes. Is it biochemistry or extrasensory? I never do tell the nurses about it..
EasyMoney
I have 4 cats . One is a solid white persian sometimes I see her looking into midair as if seeing something I don't .
starlynth7388
last night my dog really gave me the creeps (hence why im on here searching about dog-ghost connections....). Normally, he barks at ANYTHING, im pretty sure even the wind (so if he was barking, it wouldnt have bothered me). But last night as i was about to go to bed (he sleeps at the end), he suddenly jumped up and bolted for the bedroom door and whined to get out. So im thinking maybe he has to go outside, but no, he doesnt. so i brought him back into my room and he started shaking, so i was holding him trying to calm him down and he just stared up towards the ceiling, never looking back at me no matter how many times i would talk to him. then his head would suddenly jerk around like he was following somehting around the room (but it would be in random spots, 1st right in front of us, then all the way to the right, in front again, suddenly behind us, etc..the creepiest part!!) finally he was getting too fidgety for me to hold and bolted for the door again. i went out to the living room with him and he was fine, even falling asleep...but a couple minutes later he was back to doing the same thing and bolted out to go to my brothers room. so we stayed in there for a little while, and he was back to being okay but then went under the bed and wouldn't come out ( he probably wouldve gone under my bed if he couldve)...

it was just really weird.. he's bolted out of rooms like that before, but ive just chalked it up to him being hyper or something. ive never actually sat with him in a room he's bolted out of before now

And he doesnt bother with noises very often because we have a bunch of cats who make noise (soft and loud) throughout the night and he normally doesnt give noises a second thought...if anything at all, he'll bark or growl at where it's coming from ..not run away, which makes me think it was more like sight. he's never been scared of a noise before.. so i dont think its mice in the walls or ceiling.

he never gets scared.. the only time ive ever seen him scared is when he realizes he's at the vet.

just kind of bizarre i guess.
Spar
my dad said that when he had just had the phonecall to say that his sister had passed away he put the phone down and said goodbye to her aloud and at exactly the same time our cat jumped up next to him put his mouth around one of my dads fingers and just looked at him then happily jumped offf the bed and carried on what he was doing, which was totaly out of charecter for that cat so maybe they do have extra emotional or paranormal senses
Ghost Ship
My two cats often see things moving that are not visable to my eyes, human eyes. So what is special about the eyes of cats? Can not science find the answer to this? Or is it another sense that the cats are seeing with. Maybe with a hidden sense they can percieve movment of these phenomina and with it they are able to detect it's movement while making it look like they can see with thier eyes but they are only hoping to see it with thier eyes.

I have owned dogs before as well while growng up and while i believe that dogs can see these things to i dont think they are half as interested in them as cats are.

primordial
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