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Insight
Here is another video I made of my telekinetic powers. I should actually re-record it, because the lighting absolutely sucks, but I couldn't get my camera at the right angle unless I set it on top of my TV, and I don't have any lights near my TV. I tried turning off the light that you see in the film, but it made things much worse. ANYWAYS...

This time I used a glass coffee table. I use a AA battery, and I even pass it through a circle of wire I made to show that there are no strings attached. I'll admit right now it's quite hard to see the circle of wire. But I was alone with this video so I had a hard time getting the angle right, not being able to have somebody else operate the camera for me.

I don't do any weird breathing in this video, so you can see I'm not blowing. It does have audio, and you can't hear any fans. Plus, I make the battery move back and forth.

In early experiemnts, I noticed my coffee table seemed to lean to my right, which is the left in the video, so I decided to try to roll the battery "uphill" so to speak. You will see the battery rool to the right in the video. You can actually see it roll backward when I momentarily "loose my hold" on it, and it bounces a bit on the seam of the battery cover. But then I roll it right back in the other direction.

I used the same I.T. meditation technique to perform this feat of telekinesis.


In regards to my FIRST video, I must say, that I recieved many, many PM's from kids who were delighted to see my "successful" telekinetic act. It seemed that they read the first post, watched the video, and then read nothing more after it.

If this proves one thing, it's that young people jump to conclusions about things like this without actually putting in the time and effort to study them. They take things at face value right off the bat.

What this means is that the very first time they make something move when trying telekinesis, they immediately cry, "Success!", without stopping to think about airflow, static electricity, balance, magnetics, or tilt.

The same is true for those who make "Psi Balls". They concentrate on a thought or feeling long enough that they evetually feel SOMETHING, and that immediately makes them think it was successful and real. Or they stare at their hands so long their optic nerve starts cutting out redundant feedback, and they swear they saw a "ripple of energy" and go raving all over the internet about it.


Well folks, here's the video. I don't know if it's better or worse than my last one. You be the judge.

http://media.putfile.com/telekinesis-2


As you can see, Im using a glass table, I show that there are no strings, and yet I still move the battery. Telekinesis at it's "finest".

I plan to re-shoot the video when I can get one of my friends to come over and get the camera closer in on the action. And you can hold me to that.

(EDIT: And yes, that is a vintage Mac Classic you see in the background!)
Bio-Mage
Here is your spandex Battery Moving Man...!!!!

user posted image

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durnut
If there was better lighting, and a close up view, that would be great. well done video. Now begins my process of trying to figure out how you did it. This may take awhile.
ImOne
It's just blackness with sound, same as the last one.
Insight
QUOTE(ImOne @ Apr 20 2006, 03:18 AM) [snapback]1155955[/snapback]

It's just blackness with sound, same as the last one.


Oh for the love of....

Okay, HERE:

http://www.codecguide.com/download_mega.htm

Download and install this codec pack. It will allow you to see any and all video using windows media player. And if you are still using Internet Explorer, download mozilla Firefox. It is 10 times more secure, and runs much faster.
Sanjuro
After what you did in your previous topic, why should anyone believe in you?


Edit-Removed redundant quote
-UA
ImOne
QUOTE(Insight @ Apr 20 2006, 11:45 AM) [snapback]1156627[/snapback]

Oh for the love of....

Okay, HERE:

http://www.codecguide.com/download_mega.htm

Download and install this codec pack. It will allow you to see any and all video using windows media player. And if you are still using Internet Explorer, download mozilla Firefox. It is 10 times more secure, and runs much faster.

Hey, get grip dude. I'm not installing a ba-zillion codecs just to watch a phony video. If you could either use a format common to non-pirates or just tell me which codec is needed I will consider it.
Insight
QUOTE(Sanjuro @ Apr 20 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]1156663[/snapback]

After what you did in your previous topic, why should anyone believe in you?



That's entire point of my thread: Should you believe this is real telekinesis, or shouldn't you? I'll tell you straight up that this video isn't what it appears to be. Yet, I'll bet you can't guess how I did the trick.
Insight
QUOTE(ImOne @ Apr 20 2006, 12:57 PM) [snapback]1156736[/snapback]

Hey, get grip dude. I'm not installing a ba-zillion codecs just to watch a phony video. If you could either use a format common to non-pirates or just tell me which codec is needed I will consider it.



It's actually a really good idea to have all the codecs. That way, you won't need multiple players to watch or hear files. Many people have quicktime viewer, real player, and divx players. I just use one player: Windows Media player. It saves hard drive space. Plus, by using one player, you avoid software conflicts. Just trust me on this one. You don't want to have more than one player. Especially if you have a computer that is a few years old like mine.

The codec will make surfing alot easier too, because you will never have to download a new codec for music of video files you want to hear over the internet.

If your still not convinced, just download a DIVX codec. That's all you need. I just thought I'd give you a link to the whole shebang.

And for the record, Divx is a very common codec. I used it for one reason: It let me compress a 20 meg mpeg to a 3 meg divx file, without sacrificing hardly any quality. The majority of people here are able to see the video. There are only a few who don't have the proper codec. Like I said, it's just a good idea to get them all.
Sanjuro
QUOTE(Insight @ Apr 20 2006, 07:58 PM) [snapback]1156739[/snapback]

That's entire point of my thread: Should you believe this is real telekinesis, or shouldn't you? I'll tell you straight up that this video isn't what it appears to be. Yet, I'll bet you can't guess how I did the trick.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=65797

Its like you are laughting in faces of these people who are trying to learn telekinesis.

Why should these tricks be posted here? It confuses people, the right place for your tricks is here. thumbsup.gif

piratejackdavamp
So if we are supposed to figure out how you did it, you spent quite a bit of time below the tabel...why? Also when you put the battery on the table you hear a loud click, was that a magnet or something of the sort below the table?
rob lester
Hi Insight , I will say " THANK YOU " .....This is the most impressive thread I have seen.You prove it can be "faked" and how easily people " believe"....Do not take the bashing to heart , post more stuff please...Not anyone can " fake" telekenesis , few can make it look real , but NONE can really do it....I love the million dollar comment , I posted somewhere about that money , it ended the topic un-fortunatley...Good job on this.....And sorry to any I offended , but until I see proof on any of this , I am a happy " skeptic "....

Rob
angrycrustacean
Most impressive. I haven't got the faintest idea how you did it, unless you had a magnet attached to your palm, which I don't think is likely. The table isn't changing it's angle either.
Triad
I agree it belongs in Jokes and Humor.....

Any thoughts?
Stellar
QUOTE

I agree it belongs in Jokes and Humor.....


Then again, I think that 99% of the posts in this section and its subsection belong in the Jokes and Humor section...
Triad
Wow stellar given the number of people who present information here ,that means your under the opinion that only one person should be posting here.

Who stellar do you think that should be? tongue.gif

Any thoughts?

The Raven
Once again, Insight: Brilliant. You are doing all the things I wished to do awhile ago. Maybe I'll try to setup my aura experiments tomorrow to get some answers on it.

You have amazing telekinesis. You must be a natural at TK. I can't believe you can do such things.
Insight
*laughs at Steller's comment* I agree! The majority of the posts here are quite commical.


Okay, it seems that the magnet theory is the general concencous. However, it is incorrect.

My mistake was using a metal object. In my next video, I will use something plastic again, like I did for my first. Also, I'm going to have a friend shoot the video so I can get a better angle.

If you guys will notice, 99% of all telekinesis videos on the internet only have one person in them. Infact, I don't believe I have seen a single one with more than one person. This leaves many unanswered questions, such as, why can this so called "telekinesis" only be perfromed while completely alone. Could it be that all the videos are fake, because anyone who was watching would see through the ruse?

Basically, what I am trying to do here is create the ultimate telekinesis video. One where no one can think of any theory as to how it was done. One that is air tight. Once I am able to create such a video, I will then reveal how I did the trick. But not until that time.

The next video will be a much better version of the one posted in this thread. If all goes well with my plans, the video after that will involve a psiwheel under a glass jar. I have a few ideas of how to go about doing it. It's going to be complicated as hell. Perhaps it will be one of my greatest illusions!

But I think the greatest tricks I have done involved card mentalism. You can blow people away with those at bars and such. ANd the great thing is, if you mess up, people are usually tipsy enough that they won't notice! *laughs*

But seriously, metalist routines are amoungst the best. Why? Well, I have a trick where I shove a cigarette through a quarter. Now, everyone knows that is impossible, so they immediately KNOW there is some mechanism or trick involved. But because nobody out there really knows what the human mind is truely capable of, a mentalist routiene can become frighteningly believeable.

I used to piss off my friends when I would play cards. I'd shiffle the deck, deal the cards, and "magically" have a royal flush everytime. Needless to say that didn't last long. *chuckles*

Really, there are 4 stages of magic, each more difficult than the last.

The first is called "self working". This involves a mechanism which anybody fool can operate, and is impossible to mess up. They require virtually no practice.

The second is a combination of slight of hand, and a "self working" mechanism. The cigarette through the quarter is a self working/slight of hand illusion. These tricks involves and easy to use mechanism, but require some misdirection and slight of hand. They are moderately difficult, and require a little pratice.

The third is straight slight of hand. These tricks involves ordinary objects such as coins, and rely soley on the magician's skill, speed, misdirection, banter, and techniques. And example would be borrowing a coin, and making it dissappear, and possibly reappear somewhere else. These tricks range from moderate, to extremely difficult. I used to pratice for hours infront of a mirror just to get a coind sleight down. They aren't all that hard, but the good ones are. One of my very favorites is called "The Touch od Midas". Midas being the king who wished for everything he touched to turn to gold. In the trick, I show an empty hand, close it into a fist, open it, and a coin has appeared. I close the hand again, open it, and another coin appears. I usually produce 5 to 6 coins. I gets a GREAT reaction.

The forth and highest level of magic is stage magic. Stage magic, good stage magic, involves huge mechanisms, incredibly flexible assistants, great amounts of flamboyant misdirection, and hundereds of hours of practicing. If you go see Seigfried and Roy, they practice forth level magic. AND they do it VERY well.

David Blaine practices stages one to three. I haven't seen him perform on stage as of yet. But the great thing about the first three stages is that when you get good, you can take your act anywhere. On the street, in a bar, or at a party. I get a kick oh having a pretty girl whom I have not yet met write her name down on a piece of paper away from my sight, fold it up, and watch as I write down the very same name she wrote. get's em every time!
Bio-Mage
Do you think you can forward those to psipog and put them out of their misery too now? tongue.gif
ImOne
This thread is completely off topic for this forum. It is pretty funny watching you guys have so much fun with phony videos, but I can't see any purpose to it other than having Insight show off his magic skills that he must be very proud of.

If somehow, someway, you're thinking that this video is proof against psi you might want to think about the mental process that leads you to that conclusion. Hello, it's a phony video. I bring this up because it's the usual skeptics that seem to be enjoying this so much and it's the only thing I could think of that would bring them such joy. And you're the guys who pretend to be objective all the time. Thanks Insight, for flushing them out, good job.
Bio-Mage
Its proof how easy it is to produce video "evidence" of those abilities. This has great relevance to this forum section. Especially because we have a lot of people claiming they have witnessed such phenomena in this fashion and convince themselves they exist.

Your effort in creating sympathy for yourself, by referring to our "amusement" over this, is a sure sign of denial over lack of actual argument. Take what benefit you can out of this experiment (because it actually it helps you and not mocks you) and stay true to you beliefs just the same.
ImOne
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Apr 21 2006, 02:22 AM) [snapback]1157589[/snapback]

Its proof how easy it is to produce video "evidence" of those abilities.

Oh, ok. If you didn't already know that I can see why you're pleased now.
QUOTE

Your effort in creating sympathy for yourself, by referring to our "amusement" over this, is a sure sign of denial over lack of actual argument. Take what benefit you can out of this experiment (because it actually it helps you and not mocks you) and stay true to you beliefs just the same.

Does this mean no sympathy crying.gif

What argument? Looks like some kind of joy fest to me.

Benefit? Helps me? I can't follow. Whatever, carry on. yes.gif

edit:
Question for y'all, how many phony videos do you need before you believe videos can be faked?
Bio-Mage
Visit psipog to answer that last question....I need to stroke my cat now that my evil plan is finally set in motion....
Insight
A brilliant response BioMage. Yes, ImOne is obviously in denail, and feels very threatened by my work.

Denial

Anger

Barganing

depression

Acceptance

The five psychological stages of accepting death. I'd say ImOne is firmly in stage 1.

ImOne, these video are NOT to prove that videos can be faked. Any fool who has seen Jurassic Park or Twister knows that special effects can be used to create anything on screen.

My video IS, however, trying to prove how EASY videos are to fake, and how CONVINCING the fake can be.

ImOne, if you already know the video is fake, why do you care to comment? It's not like I'm saying that it's real. Nor am I saying telekinesis ISN'T real. You seem very threatened by my videos. Could it be that I'm touching a nerve in you? That I threaten your falsely validated reality? You are obviously very insecure with your beliefsand desperately feel the need to slander my work in order to validate yourself.

I used to be the same way with my religion. I would go to the religion board and argue creationism VS evolution all the time. But now I just stay out of those discussions, because I am secure in my beliefs, and don't care if people challenge them.

You obviously care ALOT about people challenging you beliefs. Ask yourself why.
ImOne
Gee Insight, you kind off went off there. Letting off a little anger. I do suppose if I were in denial that I wouldn't realize it. So I can't argue with that. If you're trying to help me reach the anger stage you're going to have to back up a bit to what the denial is.

So I guess all you are trying to do is prove that it's easy for you to fake videos. I think everybody can see that. Mission acomplished.

As far as why I care to comment, I was just trying to figure out why the guys were so giddy. They do enjoy your vids.

If you want to make this thread about me I don't care, but if your personal attacks gets any worse the mods might close it.
Dowdy
Insight, you need to put HEAPS more light in your videos so we know whats going on. I had to take a closer look to actually see the battery.
Xyfer
I don't understand why some of the members on this forum are so hostile.. unless you can prove how he is faking the video and make a exact replica then why bother going on about how you can't be fooled and how this belongs in the humor section. Having said that I couldn't see anything in the video myself and I can't be bothered to install anything to see it now as it is late here and I would rather much sleep. This "shocking video proof" is not going anywhere. tongue.gif

p.s. If I do find it fake looking myself then I apologize for what I just said above ^ wacko.gif
ImOne
Xyfer, It's hard to explain. Apparently he tries to makes PK videos that look convincing while admitting they are fake. Then I guess the idea is when some people think they are real it proves he can fool people. His justification is that he believes people think PK is real because of videos and they should not. The weird thing is he claims PK is possible, at least he gives that impression.

If this doesn't make since to you don't worry, you're not alone. It appears the topic starter is not rational. If you question why he does this you could be the target of one of his attacks. He might use his psy-chology on you. laugh.gif
Bio-Mage
Would you rather have us hurt your feelings or insult your intelligence? Take your pick....
Insight
Gee Insight, you kind off went off there. Letting off a little anger.

Nope. I don't get angry over the internet. It wastes time. What you however have done is a classic case of projection. You have projected your own anger over my work into a comment directed at me. Anyone who has taken psychology 101 can see that. But I welcome all comments, no matter if they are projected emotion, or outright slander.

I do suppose if I were in denial that I wouldn't realize it. So I can't argue with that. If you're trying to help me reach the anger stage you're going to have to back up a bit to what the denial is.

No, I don't want to get ANYONE angry. That has never been my intent. If it is a side effect of what I am doing, that is the individual's response, and is in no way connected to my statements.

In reagrds to your denial: The list of the five stages of death are the psychological symptoms of dealing with personal death or family death. In your case, it is the death of your belief in telekinetics. I do not believe any work I do will cause you to revoke or even rethink you beliefs Triad, I mean, ImOne, because you seem quite set in them. Others, however, may be helped by what I am trying to do.

So I guess all you are trying to do is prove that it's easy for you to fake videos. I think everybody can see that. Mission acomplished.

No, stage 2 of mission accomplished. The final stage is being able to duplicate every video that people can throw at me, mainly the video of the psiwheel under the glass. If anyone reading this has more convincing videos, feel free to provide me a link.

As far as why I care to comment, I was just trying to figure out why the guys were so giddy. They do enjoy your vids.


Really? Then why were non of your comments directed at them, and only me? How strange.

I don't believe your word "giddy" is anything but a light poke at the skeptics. Rereading over the posts, I didn't seem to see anything that would fall into the giddy category. However, our personal definitions of the word may very.

If you want to make this thread about me I don't care, but if your personal attacks gets any worse the mods might close it.


Ah, a subtle, yet obvious cry for help to our beloved moderators. I'm sure they are intellegent enough read both sides of the posts here, as they always seem to be reasonable regarding that. As for my attacks, I merely respond to whatever people post. No attack intended. And if I may make a subtle yet obvious rebuttal, I have used nothing but civil language. Any attempts to provoke me will fail. But your welcome to give it your best shot non the less.

I don't understand why some of the members on this forum are so hostile.. unless you can prove how he is faking the video and make a exact replica then why bother going on about how you can't be fooled and how this belongs in the humor section.


Why thank you. I appreciate your rational thoughts.

Having said that I couldn't see anything in the video myself and I can't be bothered to install anything to see it now as it is late here and I would rather much sleep. This "shocking video proof" is not going anywhere. tongue.gif

Yes, the video is horrid, I'll be the first to admit. (infact, I WAS the first to admit. *laughs at himself*) The lighting was terrible. Just terrible. I didn't think anyone would even comment on the video because it was so poor, but I guess I was wrong. My next video will be much better, as I have stated previously.

Xyfer, It's hard to explain. Apparently he tries to makes PK videos that look convincing while admitting they are fake.


Apparently has the connotation of an attempt. I believe I have succeeded. Twice.

Then I guess the idea is when some people think they are real it proves he can fool people.

Nope. I'm not trying to fool people. I'm warning them about people who can use illusionary skills and creative writing to fake techniques, post them on a website, and make money from said website through advertisements and login's. Just like psipog does. Everyone out there is trying to make a quick buck. Con artists have been doing it for thousands of years. They of course adapt with the time, technology, and the general populous' interests.

His justification is that he believes people think PK is real because of videos

If anyone cares to read ALL of my posts, you will not find this statement, wording, or concept anywhere in anything I have said. This is sheer word twisting at it's best. (worst?)

and they should not. The weird thing is he claims PK is possible, at least he gives that impression.

What does PK stand for? Psychokinesis? *chuckles* I claim that the metaphysical is part of our world. shamans, wiccans, satanists, healers, priests, and perhaps members of cults, all seem to be able to exibit extraordinary abilities. I do not deny that there is more to our realm and to human form that were are told about.

If this doesn't make since to you don't worry, you're not alone.

Strange, you claim it doesn't make sense, yet you go on and on and on about it. Perhaps if you ceased twisting my statements around it may become more clear to you. But that would invlove genuine interest in the truth, as opposed to abstract belief and self validation.

It appears the topic starter is not rational.

Ooh, that cut me deep!

By a show of hands, whose staments on these forums have more rational structure to them? Mine, or ImOne's?



If you question why he does this you could be the target of one of his attacks.

Strange Triad, I mean, ImOne, you seem to be the only person who feels I am attecking them. Maybe the problem lies in you, and not me? If you really feel that threatened by my words, I could try not responding to your posts. However, I would only agree to that if you ceased responding to mine.

He might use his psy-chology on you. laugh.gif
ImOne
Insight, I'm sure your psychoanalysis is worth what I paid for it, but it isn't helping me understand why you started this thread. All I can come up with so far is that you:

think PK is real but think web sites that profit from advertising should not be teaching it.

don't think it's real and want to help people see that.

like to show your magic videos on the internet.


It seems like you want people to think it's the first one even though it's actually the second. It also looks like you're trying to dodge this issue by making this thread about my psychological condition. It would be great if you could respond in a page or less because people don't read your long posts.
Bio-Mage
You are the one that brought phychology into this, when you mentioned the "joy" we get out of doing this.

Dont go complaining now if the tables are turned on you. Same as others you have a lot to learn about human behaviour.
ImOne
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Apr 22 2006, 04:54 AM) [snapback]1158827[/snapback]

You are the one that brought phychology into this, when you mentioned the "joy" we get out of doing this.

Just calling it like I see it. Quotes from the skeptics in this thread:

I am a happy " skeptic "....

Most impressive.

Brilliant. You are doing all the things I wished to do awhile ago.

Do you think you can forward those to psipog and put them out of their misery too now?


feel the joy?
rob lester
I would like to change the word "skeptic" to "realist" .....That is more fitting original.gif
Insight
It seems like you want people to think it's the first one even though it's actually the second. It also looks like you're trying to dodge this issue by making this thread about my psychological condition. It would be great if you could respond in a page or less because people don't read your long posts.

Perhaps you should try actually looking at words, reading what they say, and processing what they mean. If you'll notice, in the very title, it says "social experiment part 2." Also, there are numerous mentions of it being the second video. You really REALLY need to read all of the words on people's posts Triad. I mean, ImOne.

Infact, you seem to be the only one who doesn't read the whole posts. I have had numerous comments from people who have actually read the whole of the words I have written. Perhaps it's because young people have short attention spans.

Triad/ImOne, it is clever of you to think I would fall for your different screen names, but given the amount of study I have done into the english language, as well as psychology, I can easily point out the obvious similarities between the sentence structure you use while in different persona's. If you are lucky, I won't write a complete synopsis exposing you to everybody.

I don't like to boast, and hate saying this to you, but in case you haven't realized yet, I AM smarter than you. I practically wrote the book on internet deception. I know every trick there is. And you may be fooling others, but not me.
SecondHeartbeat
the video won't work
Insight
QUOTE(Juno @ Apr 22 2006, 08:26 PM) [snapback]1159679[/snapback]

the video won't work



You need to download a Divx video codec to get it to work. Do a seaqrch on google for "divx codec", download it, and install it. It will allow you to then view any divx format video on your computer, or over the internet.
ImOne
QUOTE(Insight @ Apr 22 2006, 08:22 PM) [snapback]1159677[/snapback]

If you are lucky, I won't write a complete synopsis exposing you to everybody.

You underestimate everyone except yourself. You're just talking more crap you can't back up.
angrycrustacean
QUOTE(ImOne @ Apr 22 2006, 09:43 AM) [snapback]1159002[/snapback]

Just calling it like I see it. Quotes from the skeptics in this thread:

I am a happy " skeptic "....

Most impressive.

Brilliant. You are doing all the things I wished to do awhile ago.

Do you think you can forward those to psipog and put them out of their misery too now?


feel the joy?


I fail to see that either of the quotes I bolded reflects joy.

I am, however, seeing many parallels between you and Triad, now that Insight has mentioned it. I wouldn't be opposed to a mod checking the IP adresses out, not that that would neccessarily prove anything.
ImOne
QUOTE(angrycrustacean @ Apr 22 2006, 10:17 PM) [snapback]1159770[/snapback]

I am, however, seeing many parallels between you and Triad ...

Maybe that's because we both know what we're talking about and we don't talk crap.

The people on this board could learn a lot from Triad if they try. I have.
angrycrustacean
QUOTE(ImOne @ Apr 22 2006, 11:25 PM) [snapback]1159776[/snapback]

Maybe that's because we both know what we're talking about and we don't talk crap.

The people on this board could learn a lot from Triad if they try. I have.


Can't you think for yourself and stop being Triad's little puppet? I don't know about you, but I didn't need anybody to teach me my beliefs. I looked at the evidence at hand and made up my own mind.
Triad
Wow, what a thought provoking discourse wacko.gif if anything I would say the title should be "lets bash people who believe in PSI and express there opinion” or "What a wonderful world this would be, if people who believed in PSI knew there place" (where have I heard that before). I looked at the evidence as well angrycrustacean, you simply do not have the capacity to understand the validity of the paranormal and that has nothing to do with
me.


A lovely testament to the end of skepticism in relation to the Paranormal. You guys are going to live up to the same standards, as those who professed a flat earth and the belief that man could not fly. As far as the whole magic thing, its slumming, which makes this all the better thumbup.gif

Am going to get some rest now Gentlemen happy in the realization that the Keystone
Cops, have been replaced by PSICOPS, in the modern age.

Any thoughts?

PS: yes.gif
Universal Absurdity
Enough with the back and forth insults here

Triad and ImOne are two different posters, i have looked into this.

If this cannot continue in a civil manner the thread will be closed. The only reason i see for it to still be open would be for insight to explain his video. and how it was done.

the rest of this thread has been pointless back and forth nonsense and i dont like where its headed.

angrycrustacean
QUOTE(Triad @ Apr 23 2006, 12:54 AM) [snapback]1159841[/snapback]

I looked at the evidence as well angrycrustacean, you simply do not have the capacity to understand the validity of the paranormal and that has nothing to do with me.


I would like greater clarity as to your meaning here. Are you saying that I, personally, cannot understand the paranormal, or that nobody, in general, can? My comment on making up my mind had nothing to do with stating my beliefs on the validity of the paranormal. In fact, in that post I made no mention at all of my person beliefs or whether I thought they were true. I just don't approve of what ImOne was and is doing. Instead of presenting his own valid argument, he is either parroting yours, or in this latter case, essentially saying "Yeah, what Triad said."

The way ImOne is acting is unintelligent, unoriginal, and has no place in this discussion. As a matter of fact, it's him that had to resume his dogmatic slandering of Insight's videos, and him that has driven the pointless arguing. You are not guiltless on the subject either, Triad, you have been equally provocative. As much as you would like to blame us dirty skeptics, you are as much at fault for this debacle as even the most firmly entrenched of skeptics. You are becoming quite the hypocrite, I am displeased to see.
Universal Absurdity
Ok i think we've all had enough now

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