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BigfootForever
wow, I have never seen anything that looks like that before. Does anyone know what that is, if it is a known animal?

Mysterious Reptile Shot Near San Antonio

What is the mysterious reptile caught in an animal trap in 1997? Chupacabra--as some suggested?, An unknown dinosaur type long thought to be extinct? This photo comes from a video shown on KENS-5 in San Antonio. In November, 1996, a Mexican rancher near San Antonio, Texas, claimed to have captured the chupacabras with a coyote trap - and produced the photographs to prove it. (This story and photos used to be online, but have since become unavailable.)

The rancher had set the trap to capture whatever was killing his goats, chickens, and a donkey. What he caught was something he could not recognize. The creature had strange two-fingered hands, rigid dermal spines along its entire back. It was reportedly five feet long from nose to tail (my recollection) and was quite obviously a reptile.

Allegedly, the body of the strange creature was taken to a major Texas university for identification, although this cannot be verified.

http://s8int.com/dino2.html

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Freak'O'Nature
HOLY SH*T! ohmy.gif What is that thing?
riotboy555
First, it was that mysterious dog-like creature that turned out to be a mangy coyote, and now this! San Antonio's bubbling with mystery these days. It must have something to do with the Alamo.
Master-J
that looks like giddy goana, the goana that teaches us (down here in australia) how to be safe etc lol

im not sure that looks pretty weird... it looks like its made of stone...
frogfish
Looks fake to me...No lizard has 2 fingered limbs, or dermal spines like that.
Spacey
LOL@Giddy Goana.
I agree it looks fake- those spines look like they're made from cardboard.
Pax Unum
looks like a Chameleon that someone's stuck fins on....

Chameleon
frogfish
Chameleons actually have four toes, but two are fused together. Other than the head shape, it does look like a chameleon with fins.

My Panther Chameleon does bear a resemblance to it...
Pax Unum
QUOTE(frogfish @ Apr 20 2006, 08:11 PM) [snapback]1157165[/snapback]

Chameleons actually have four toes, but two are fused together.


yes, fused... but still resembles the two toes in the picture... original.gif
Master Sage
The Lizard from devil.gif seems to be modled after the Stegosarus hmm.gif so i think its disgust.gif .
psyche101
Daammit, this pic has been around for a bit, I saw it at least 6 months ago, but reckon I could find the link?? Need to reoraginise bookmarks methinks.

I know I have seen this, I am sure it was a composite of skeletons, (good call Pax I am positive the main part was indeed Chameleon) but the steggy 'frill' was not - it was cut out of plastic or something. 100% fake, maddening when I cannot find the backup link.

Will keep looking...................
Harks
Have they done any atomic test in the area, you never know it could just be a freak of nature or genetically altered by radiation, a mutant in fact. Who knows, but I find it strange that most crypto photos are of such poor quality, to make them more mysterious or hide the fact that they are fake. tongue.gif
Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(Master Sage @ Apr 20 2006, 09:20 PM) [snapback]1157178[/snapback]

The Lizard from devil.gif seems to be modled after the Stegosarus hmm.gif so i think its disgust.gif .


Stegosaurus was a dinosaur, and all dinosaurs have an erect posture - their legs are positioned directly under their body. The creature in the photograph has splayed reptillian legs and is therefore not a dinosaur. Also, it looks nothing like stegosaurus.

user posted image

I agree that the picture looks very much fake. A regular fiji chuppa. The spines in particular appear to be made of plastic or cardboard.

-Pilgrim
jobot37
Looks like a gecko with some cardboard fins...
BigfootForever
QUOTE(jobot37 @ Apr 20 2006, 09:43 PM) [snapback]1157217[/snapback]

Looks like a gecko with some cardboard fins...

lol, thats what i was thinking.
Freak'O'Nature
It does look fake.
BigDaddy_GFS
The fins look fake. It looks like a chameleon got intimately carnal with a dimetrodon.
Thylacina
What the blazes is THAT?! blink.gif
Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(Thylacina @ Apr 21 2006, 04:16 AM) [snapback]1157572[/snapback]

What the blazes is THAT?! blink.gif


Chameleons are small lizards known for their ability to change the color of their skin. They live in trees and eat small insects.

However, I assume you were referring to dimetrodon. This was a synapsid, a creature which lived before the time of the dinosaurs. It had splayed lizard-like legs and a high sail on its back. It was the top predator of its environment at the time in which it lived.

user posted image

In film, dimetrodon has traditionally been represented by gluing a fake fin onto the back of a baby aligator or iguana and photographically enlarging it (for a prime example, see Journey to the Center of the Earth).

Dimetrodon is often called a dinosaur, but it was not. As I said, it was a synapsid, a group which predates dinosaurs. In fact, dimetrodon is more closely related to mammals.

-Pilgrim
frogfish
QUOTE
Dimetrodon is often called a dinosaur, but it was not. As I said, it was a synapsid, a group which predates dinosaurs. In fact, dimetrodon is more closely related to mammals.

yes.gif As synapsids are the direct ancestors of mammals. Pelycodonts yes.gif
mars1102
looks like a dirty hand puppet
isis-999
It looks like a lizard that someone has added fin's too...You know when people make fake's like this, It only make's it harder to get the mainstream scientist to take crytozoology serious..... angry.gif
Tone
QUOTE(Freak'O'Nature @ Apr 20 2006, 10:07 PM) [snapback]1157334[/snapback]

It does look fake.


Very.
Final Remark
Hey anyone think its the chupacabras? tongue.gif
Bigfoot_Is_Real
wheres the shot wound rolleyes.gif
Tone
QUOTE(Bigfoot_Is_Real @ Apr 21 2006, 12:58 PM) [snapback]1158041[/snapback]

wheres the shot wound rolleyes.gif

LoL

For real, what'd they use to bring it down, a sling-shot!?
GrayTone
In the last forum about this picture, someone said it looked exacly like some beanie-baby. I cant find the thread tho
BigfootForever
QUOTE(Pilgrim_Shadow @ Apr 21 2006, 12:47 PM) [snapback]1157927[/snapback]

Chameleons are small lizards known for their ability to change the color of their skin. They live in trees and eat small insects.

However, I assume you were referring to dimetrodon. This was a synapsid, a creature which lived before the time of the dinosaurs. It had splayed lizard-like legs and a high sail on its back. It was the top predator of its environment at the time in which it lived.

user posted image

In film, dimetrodon has traditionally been represented by gluing a fake fin onto the back of a baby aligator or iguana and photographically enlarging it (for a prime example, see Journey to the Center of the Earth).

Dimetrodon is often called a dinosaur, but it was not. As I said, it was a synapsid, a group which predates dinosaurs. In fact, dimetrodon is more closely related to mammals.

-Pilgrim

great info thumbsup.gif
Bigfoot_Is_Real
QUOTE(420_toker @ Apr 21 2006, 03:38 PM) [snapback]1158171[/snapback]

In the last forum about this picture, someone said it looked exacly like some beanie-baby. I cant find the thread tho


Oh wait a sec i was a Benie baby fanatic when i was young and I remember somthing resembling that
BigDaddy_GFS
QUOTE(Pilgrim_Shadow @ Apr 21 2006, 07:47 PM) [snapback]1157927[/snapback]



In film, dimetrodon has traditionally been represented by gluing a fake fin onto the back of a baby aligator or iguana and photographically enlarging it (for a prime example, see Journey to the Center of the Earth).

Dimetrodon is often called a dinosaur, but it was not. As I said, it was a synapsid, a group which predates dinosaurs. In fact, dimetrodon is more closely related to mammals.

-Pilgrim



Doesn't Dimetrodon qualify as a protomammal?
Pilgrim_Shadow
QUOTE(BigDaddy_GFS @ Apr 21 2006, 11:34 PM) [snapback]1158544[/snapback]

Doesn't Dimetrodon qualify as a protomammal?


The term protomammal is usually reserved for the therapsids, an order grouped under the synapsid class which gave rise to mammals. Dimetrodon was not a therapsid, however; it was a pelycosaur, a grouping that specifically excludes therapsids. Pelycosaurs were more primitive than therapsids and were generally dominant in the permian period (late paleozoic era; this was the earliest era with complex life forms). Therapsids arose in the early triassic period (early mesozoic; the age of dinosaurs), but were displaced by thecodonts as the dominant life form. Therapsids gave rise to mammals and thecodonts gave rise to dinosaurs. So, long story short, dimetrodon largely does not qualify as a protomammal; it is more of a proto-protomammal.

-Pilgrim
kryptoguy
its fake!
ToySouljah
QUOTE(riotboy555 @ Apr 20 2006, 07:56 PM) [snapback]1157139[/snapback]

First, it was that mysterious dog-like creature that turned out to be a mangy coyote, and now this! San Antonio's bubbling with mystery these days. It must have something to do with the Alamo.



lol...Not much going on here from what I can tell (I live in San Antonio). Although I was reading some of the other stories on the site that the original poster linked to and saw something really funny.

"Morgawr 1999: Video footage of a creature swimming in the sea off Gerran's Bay has been captured by local man John Holmes and has confounded experts." devil.gif

hehehe....had to comment.
ToySouljah
QUOTE(Tone @ Apr 21 2006, 01:09 PM) [snapback]1158070[/snapback]

LoL

For real, what'd they use to bring it down, a sling-shot!?


Actually 22 cal is good enough for most small creatures out here in TX if you are a good enough shot. I used to take out strays wondering on our property and kept the rifle by the door or on the front porch. You really can't see the entry or exit wound too well with that size caliber unless you're looking for it...I'd show you, but I've moved back to the city and can't go around shooting things like the good ol days...lol. grin2.gif
Pelican_Eel
I don't know...it doesn't look like an animal at all! completely fake, a very bad made doll
Gall
QUOTE(BigfootForever @ Apr 21 2006, 01:52 AM) [snapback]1157130[/snapback]

wow, I have never seen anything that looks like that before. Does anyone know what that is, if it is a known animal?

Mysterious Reptile Shot Near San Antonio

What is the mysterious reptile caught in an animal trap in 1997? Chupacabra--as some suggested?, An unknown dinosaur type long thought to be extinct? This photo comes from a video shown on KENS-5 in San Antonio. In November, 1996, a Mexican rancher near San Antonio, Texas, claimed to have captured the chupacabras with a coyote trap - and produced the photographs to prove it. (This story and photos used to be online, but have since become unavailable.)

The rancher had set the trap to capture whatever was killing his goats, chickens, and a donkey. What he caught was something he could not recognize. The creature had strange two-fingered hands, rigid dermal spines along its entire back. It was reportedly five feet long from nose to tail (my recollection) and was quite obviously a reptile.

Allegedly, the body of the strange creature was taken to a major Texas university for identification, although this cannot be verified.

http://s8int.com/dino2.html

[attachmentid=25075]

dude that pic luks like summet i made in art in primary school. hmm.gif
truth seeker
It's fake and very sad. I mean really if think about somebody is trying to hoax people and this is what they were able to come up with.
BigDaddy_GFS

QUOTE
So, long story short, dimetrodon largely does not qualify as a protomammal; it is more of a proto-protomammal.

-Pilgrim


I was thinking along those lines. Jsut didn't know all the terminology. Thanks.
louie
well its supposed to be in a university now, can we contact them and ask if they had or have it and is it real
Curunir
I know what that is: It is a Hodag. Bovinus spiritualis Very dangerous creature. Spikes along its back. They are mostly found in Wisonsin so I am doubtful about the San Antonio story. Most likely, it was somebody's pet.

Read about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodag

and here:
http://members.aol.com/joviko/hodag.html

Check out another pic here:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/getAtt...ractionNo==1465

yeah, I been around the block...

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Master Sage
not only is it fake, its tacky.
Tia
Now that is a really badly made model in the photo.
frogfish
Didn't you see the first line in Wikipedia? The Hodag is a FICTIONAL creature...
Curunir
Ohmigod, Frogfish, you are so brilliant! Yes, we all did see it says fictional. And your point is? And your real name is Sherlock?
frogfish
QUOTE
Ohmigod, Frogfish, you are so brilliant! Yes, we all did see it says fictional. And your point is? And your real name is Sherlock?

This:
QUOTE
I know what that is: It is a Hodag. Bovinus spiritualis Very dangerous creature. Spikes along its back. They are mostly found in Wisonsin so I am doubtful about the San Antonio story. Most likely, it was somebody's pet.

rickfury188
San Antonio is not safe anymore... sad.gif
fallingalien
looks like a stuffed animal.
Bigfootis#1
I never saw this on the news and I live in san antonio. I love Cryptozoology I wish I would have seen this. sad.gif
Tone
QUOTE(truth seeker @ Apr 22 2006, 09:14 AM) [snapback]1158930[/snapback]

It's fake and very sad. I mean really if think about somebody is trying to hoax people and this is what they were able to come up with.


If only all hoaxes were this apparent.
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