BigfootForever
Apr 21 2006, 12:52 AM
wow, I have never seen anything that looks like that before. Does anyone know what that is, if it is a known animal?
Mysterious Reptile Shot Near San Antonio
What is the mysterious reptile caught in an animal trap in 1997? Chupacabra--as some suggested?, An unknown dinosaur type long thought to be extinct? This photo comes from a video shown on KENS-5 in San Antonio. In November, 1996, a Mexican rancher near San Antonio, Texas, claimed to have captured the chupacabras with a coyote trap - and produced the photographs to prove it. (This story and photos used to be online, but have since become unavailable.)
The rancher had set the trap to capture whatever was killing his goats, chickens, and a donkey. What he caught was something he could not recognize. The creature had strange two-fingered hands, rigid dermal spines along its entire back. It was reportedly five feet long from nose to tail (my recollection) and was quite obviously a reptile.
Allegedly, the body of the strange creature was taken to a major Texas university for identification, although this cannot be verified.
http://s8int.com/dino2.html [attachmentid=25075]
Freak'O'Nature
Apr 21 2006, 12:55 AM
HOLY SH*T!

What is that thing?
riotboy555
Apr 21 2006, 12:56 AM
First, it was that mysterious dog-like creature that turned out to be a mangy coyote, and now this! San Antonio's bubbling with mystery these days. It must have something to do with the Alamo.
Master-J
Apr 21 2006, 12:56 AM
that looks like giddy goana, the goana that teaches us (down here in australia) how to be safe etc lol
im not sure that looks pretty weird... it looks like its made of stone...
frogfish
Apr 21 2006, 01:02 AM
Looks fake to me...No lizard has 2 fingered limbs, or dermal spines like that.
Spacey
Apr 21 2006, 01:08 AM
LOL@Giddy Goana.
I agree it looks fake- those spines look like they're made from cardboard.
Pax Unum
Apr 21 2006, 01:10 AM
looks like a Chameleon that someone's stuck fins on....
Chameleon
frogfish
Apr 21 2006, 01:11 AM
Chameleons actually have four toes, but two are fused together. Other than the head shape, it does look like a chameleon with fins.
My Panther Chameleon does bear a resemblance to it...
Pax Unum
Apr 21 2006, 01:16 AM
QUOTE(frogfish @ Apr 20 2006, 08:11 PM) [snapback]1157165[/snapback]
Chameleons actually have four toes, but two are fused together.
yes, fused... but still resembles the two toes in the picture...
Master Sage
Apr 21 2006, 01:20 AM
The Lizard from

seems to be modled after the Stegosarus

so i think its

.
psyche101
Apr 21 2006, 01:32 AM
Daammit, this pic has been around for a bit, I saw it at least 6 months ago, but reckon I could find the link?? Need to reoraginise bookmarks methinks.
I know I have seen this, I am sure it was a composite of skeletons, (good call Pax I am positive the main part was indeed Chameleon) but the steggy 'frill' was not - it was cut out of plastic or something. 100% fake, maddening when I cannot find the backup link.
Will keep looking...................
Harks
Apr 21 2006, 01:38 AM
Have they done any atomic test in the area, you never know it could just be a freak of nature or genetically altered by radiation, a mutant in fact. Who knows, but I find it strange that most crypto photos are of such poor quality, to make them more mysterious or hide the fact that they are fake.
Pilgrim_Shadow
Apr 21 2006, 01:39 AM
QUOTE(Master Sage @ Apr 20 2006, 09:20 PM) [snapback]1157178[/snapback]
The Lizard from

seems to be modled after the Stegosarus

so i think its

.
Stegosaurus was a dinosaur, and all dinosaurs have an erect posture - their legs are positioned directly under their body. The creature in the photograph has splayed reptillian legs and is therefore not a dinosaur. Also, it looks nothing like stegosaurus.

I agree that the picture looks very much fake. A regular fiji chuppa. The spines in particular appear to be made of plastic or cardboard.
-Pilgrim
jobot37
Apr 21 2006, 01:43 AM
Looks like a gecko with some cardboard fins...
BigfootForever
Apr 21 2006, 02:24 AM
QUOTE(jobot37 @ Apr 20 2006, 09:43 PM) [snapback]1157217[/snapback]
Looks like a gecko with some cardboard fins...
lol, thats what i was thinking.
Freak'O'Nature
Apr 21 2006, 03:07 AM
It does look fake.
BigDaddy_GFS
Apr 21 2006, 03:23 AM
The fins look fake. It looks like a chameleon got intimately carnal with a dimetrodon.
Thylacina
Apr 21 2006, 08:16 AM
What the blazes is THAT?!
Pilgrim_Shadow
Apr 21 2006, 04:47 PM
QUOTE(Thylacina @ Apr 21 2006, 04:16 AM) [snapback]1157572[/snapback]
What the blazes is THAT?!

Chameleons are small lizards known for their ability to change the color of their skin. They live in trees and eat small insects.
However, I assume you were referring to dimetrodon. This was a synapsid, a creature which lived before the time of the dinosaurs. It had splayed lizard-like legs and a high sail on its back. It was the top predator of its environment at the time in which it lived.

In film, dimetrodon has traditionally been represented by gluing a fake fin onto the back of a baby aligator or iguana and photographically enlarging it (for a prime example, see Journey to the Center of the Earth).
Dimetrodon is often called a dinosaur, but it was not. As I said, it was a synapsid, a group which predates dinosaurs. In fact, dimetrodon is more closely related to mammals.
-Pilgrim
frogfish
Apr 21 2006, 04:57 PM
QUOTE
Dimetrodon is often called a dinosaur, but it was not. As I said, it was a synapsid, a group which predates dinosaurs. In fact, dimetrodon is more closely related to mammals.

As synapsids are the direct ancestors of mammals. Pelycodonts
mars1102
Apr 21 2006, 04:59 PM
looks like a dirty hand puppet
isis-999
Apr 21 2006, 05:02 PM
It looks like a lizard that someone has added fin's too...You know when people make fake's like this, It only make's it harder to get the mainstream scientist to take crytozoology serious.....
Tone
Apr 21 2006, 05:18 PM
QUOTE(Freak'O'Nature @ Apr 20 2006, 10:07 PM) [snapback]1157334[/snapback]
It does look fake.
Very.
Final Remark
Apr 21 2006, 05:53 PM
Hey anyone think its the chupacabras?
Bigfoot_Is_Real
Apr 21 2006, 05:58 PM
wheres the shot wound
Tone
Apr 21 2006, 06:09 PM
QUOTE(Bigfoot_Is_Real @ Apr 21 2006, 12:58 PM) [snapback]1158041[/snapback]
wheres the shot wound

LoL
For real, what'd they use to bring it down, a sling-shot!?
GrayTone
Apr 21 2006, 08:38 PM
In the last forum about this picture, someone said it looked exacly like some beanie-baby. I cant find the thread tho
BigfootForever
Apr 22 2006, 12:21 AM
QUOTE(Pilgrim_Shadow @ Apr 21 2006, 12:47 PM) [snapback]1157927[/snapback]
Chameleons are small lizards known for their ability to change the color of their skin. They live in trees and eat small insects.
However, I assume you were referring to dimetrodon. This was a synapsid, a creature which lived before the time of the dinosaurs. It had splayed lizard-like legs and a high sail on its back. It was the top predator of its environment at the time in which it lived.

In film, dimetrodon has traditionally been represented by gluing a fake fin onto the back of a baby aligator or iguana and photographically enlarging it (for a prime example, see Journey to the Center of the Earth).
Dimetrodon is often called a dinosaur, but it was not. As I said, it was a synapsid, a group which predates dinosaurs. In fact, dimetrodon is more closely related to mammals.
-Pilgrim
great info
Bigfoot_Is_Real
Apr 22 2006, 12:57 AM
QUOTE(420_toker @ Apr 21 2006, 03:38 PM) [snapback]1158171[/snapback]
In the last forum about this picture, someone said it looked exacly like some beanie-baby. I cant find the thread tho
Oh wait a sec i was a Benie baby fanatic when i was young and I remember somthing resembling that
BigDaddy_GFS
Apr 22 2006, 03:34 AM
QUOTE(Pilgrim_Shadow @ Apr 21 2006, 07:47 PM) [snapback]1157927[/snapback]
In film, dimetrodon has traditionally been represented by gluing a fake fin onto the back of a baby aligator or iguana and photographically enlarging it (for a prime example, see Journey to the Center of the Earth).
Dimetrodon is often called a dinosaur, but it was not. As I said, it was a synapsid, a group which predates dinosaurs. In fact, dimetrodon is more closely related to mammals.
-Pilgrim
Doesn't Dimetrodon qualify as a protomammal?
Pilgrim_Shadow
Apr 22 2006, 04:15 AM
QUOTE(BigDaddy_GFS @ Apr 21 2006, 11:34 PM) [snapback]1158544[/snapback]
Doesn't Dimetrodon qualify as a protomammal?
The term protomammal is usually reserved for the therapsids, an order grouped under the synapsid class which gave rise to mammals. Dimetrodon was not a therapsid, however; it was a pelycosaur, a grouping that specifically excludes therapsids. Pelycosaurs were more primitive than therapsids and were generally dominant in the permian period (late paleozoic era; this was the earliest era with complex life forms). Therapsids arose in the early triassic period (early mesozoic; the age of dinosaurs), but were displaced by thecodonts as the dominant life form. Therapsids gave rise to mammals and thecodonts gave rise to dinosaurs. So, long story short, dimetrodon largely does not qualify as a protomammal; it is more of a proto-protomammal.
-Pilgrim
kryptoguy
Apr 22 2006, 07:47 AM
its fake!
ToySouljah
Apr 22 2006, 07:49 AM
QUOTE(riotboy555 @ Apr 20 2006, 07:56 PM) [snapback]1157139[/snapback]
First, it was that mysterious dog-like creature that turned out to be a mangy coyote, and now this! San Antonio's bubbling with mystery these days. It must have something to do with the Alamo.
lol...Not much going on here from what I can tell (I live in San Antonio). Although I was reading some of the other stories on the site that the original poster linked to and saw something really funny.
"Morgawr 1999: Video footage of a creature swimming in the sea off Gerran's Bay has been captured by local man John Holmes and has confounded experts."
hehehe....had to comment.
ToySouljah
Apr 22 2006, 07:57 AM
QUOTE(Tone @ Apr 21 2006, 01:09 PM) [snapback]1158070[/snapback]
LoL
For real, what'd they use to bring it down, a sling-shot!?
Actually 22 cal is good enough for most small creatures out here in TX if you are a good enough shot. I used to take out strays wondering on our property and kept the rifle by the door or on the front porch. You really can't see the entry or exit wound too well with that size caliber unless you're looking for it...I'd show you, but I've moved back to the city and can't go around shooting things like the good ol days...lol.
Pelican_Eel
Apr 22 2006, 09:55 AM
I don't know...it doesn't look like an animal at all! completely fake, a very bad made doll
Gall
Apr 22 2006, 12:19 PM
QUOTE(BigfootForever @ Apr 21 2006, 01:52 AM) [snapback]1157130[/snapback]
wow, I have never seen anything that looks like that before. Does anyone know what that is, if it is a known animal?
Mysterious Reptile Shot Near San Antonio
What is the mysterious reptile caught in an animal trap in 1997? Chupacabra--as some suggested?, An unknown dinosaur type long thought to be extinct? This photo comes from a video shown on KENS-5 in San Antonio. In November, 1996, a Mexican rancher near San Antonio, Texas, claimed to have captured the chupacabras with a coyote trap - and produced the photographs to prove it. (This story and photos used to be online, but have since become unavailable.)
The rancher had set the trap to capture whatever was killing his goats, chickens, and a donkey. What he caught was something he could not recognize. The creature had strange two-fingered hands, rigid dermal spines along its entire back. It was reportedly five feet long from nose to tail (my recollection) and was quite obviously a reptile.
Allegedly, the body of the strange creature was taken to a major Texas university for identification, although this cannot be verified.
http://s8int.com/dino2.html [attachmentid=25075]
dude that pic luks like summet i made in art in primary school.
truth seeker
Apr 22 2006, 02:14 PM
It's fake and very sad. I mean really if think about somebody is trying to hoax people and this is what they were able to come up with.
BigDaddy_GFS
Apr 22 2006, 06:07 PM
QUOTE
So, long story short, dimetrodon largely does not qualify as a protomammal; it is more of a proto-protomammal.
-Pilgrim
I was thinking along those lines. Jsut didn't know all the terminology. Thanks.
louie
Apr 23 2006, 09:20 AM
well its supposed to be in a university now, can we contact them and ask if they had or have it and is it real
Curunir
Apr 23 2006, 09:39 AM
I know what that is: It is a Hodag. Bovinus spiritualis Very dangerous creature. Spikes along its back. They are mostly found in Wisonsin so I am doubtful about the San Antonio story. Most likely, it was somebody's pet.
Read about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodag
and here:
http://members.aol.com/joviko/hodag.html
Check out another pic here:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/getAtt...ractionNo==1465
yeah, I been around the block...
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Master Sage
Apr 23 2006, 10:39 AM
not only is it fake, its tacky.
Tia
Apr 23 2006, 12:54 PM
Now that is a really badly made model in the photo.
frogfish
Apr 23 2006, 02:21 PM
Didn't you see the first line in Wikipedia? The Hodag is a FICTIONAL creature...
Curunir
Apr 23 2006, 03:31 PM
Ohmigod, Frogfish, you are so brilliant! Yes, we all did see it says fictional. And your point is? And your real name is Sherlock?
frogfish
Apr 23 2006, 03:42 PM
QUOTE
Ohmigod, Frogfish, you are so brilliant! Yes, we all did see it says fictional. And your point is? And your real name is Sherlock?
This:
QUOTE
I know what that is: It is a Hodag. Bovinus spiritualis Very dangerous creature. Spikes along its back. They are mostly found in Wisonsin so I am doubtful about the San Antonio story. Most likely, it was somebody's pet.
rickfury188
Apr 23 2006, 04:14 PM
San Antonio is not safe anymore...
fallingalien
Apr 23 2006, 04:39 PM
looks like a stuffed animal.
Bigfootis#1
Apr 24 2006, 04:26 AM
I never saw this on the news and I live in san antonio. I love Cryptozoology I wish I would have seen this.
Tone
Apr 24 2006, 03:17 PM
QUOTE(truth seeker @ Apr 22 2006, 09:14 AM) [snapback]1158930[/snapback]
It's fake and very sad. I mean really if think about somebody is trying to hoax people and this is what they were able to come up with.
If only all hoaxes were this apparent.
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