I understand that many UFO beleivers will pass this explaination away as religious nonsense, and I myself have photograghed UFO's, seen large military-style UFO's, seen Bigfoot, and alot of strange things while on this planet. I have blogged, talked, researched, etc, and the only explaination with true merit is directly from the Bible. Satan, and that which is wicked, is the ruler of the kingdom of the air http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...-3;&version=31; and a false angel of light http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_...1&context=verse
and he will do anything to distract us from the Truth. I do stiil beleive that God created the Universe and other beings must be out there, but we must recognize them as His creations, or we are falling into satans trap of deception. I can feel the responses some may give will not be very nice, but this is the conclusion I have come up with, and feel that I must share it.

Satan is ruler of this planet (for now), not the air

I would have to reply with the fact that the planet includes the atmosphere.

My "Christian" upbringing : God created this Universe - no questions asked.

but then other things come along...

and I wonder either that God created them as well, or "they" put this into our thinking and/ or our way of life?

I don't know - but I really don't think Satan is the "RULER" of this planet that we all call EARTH.

Satans principality does not include the air. Lucifer is the Emperor of the Air.

At any rate your saying this is the only logical conclusion is rubbish as it is only logical if you believe in god which is something for another forum.

The Idea that UFOs are angels/demons/attempts by Satan to confuse us is not new.

There are a thousand possible reasons for UFOs from those of Project Sign and BlueBook to the idea that they are vehicles of Extraterrestrial origins and also that they are from inner earth, the undersea colonies and from the future/past. but they are all theories no facts.

Well I must say I don't agree. Even if i went by the bible satan is believed to rule the earth which I believe it is simply our own egos and not a mythological creature of the deep. If you can believe in God as you do than can't you as well believe that God created more than just us? Perhaps they look at us and think we are evil and ignorant.

You are on to the truth. The sheer numbers of UFO's proves that there not traveling space it's to far even the nearest star. These UFO's contain the fallin angels and their workers (greys). The bible says they fell to earth and are now trapped here untill satan rules for 1000 years(not happened yet). It's clear satan is the leader of these aliens. They broke GOD's universal laws when they genetically tampered with us. The closer we get to the end times we will make contact with them. That is the great deception because people in mass numbers will lean towards creationism and agnostic beliefs. The roots of our classic religeon's will be shaken and de-bunked by these supposed "space travelers." Does it not make sense to assume alien abduction is a form of "possesion." My opinoin is the secret societies and Illuninati know about this and secretly are worshiping them and satan. The new world order and one world government is supposed to be the mark of the beast correct?

any comments or thoughts to this.

Affirmative.

I admit that I have sometimes thought about this myself. The Bible refers to Satan as "The Prince of the Power of the Air". The thought "what if the alien beings are actually demons?" has crossed my mind as well. Scary thoughts.

But....there are those that purport that "Prince of the Power of the Air" means that Satan controls the airwaves....radio, television, etc. I suppose there are many ways to interpret that phrase. Truth is, at this point we really just don't know.

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You have extended my results perfectly. To go on even further, governments may either know this to be true, and thier prime objective is seperation of church and state, or the fear of mass hysteria, or simply can't explain the phenomenon. I beleive governments want us all to rely on them secretly more and more, so they pass them of as swamp gas, etc....

I do believe He created more than just us. Part of my point is that if they exist, they must be recognised as His creations. I am certainly not doubting that we as humans are experiencing close encounters of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd kind. We just need place credit where credit is due, and focus on Him. If these encounters are not real, then they certainly are a part of satan's plan to keep us distracted.

With all respect to religious belief, you need to make room that the "divine" elements of the bible can be more mundane phenomena. So this can ctually be the other way around completly.

One thing is surely true, as far as I can tell: Whatever's behind the whole phenomenon, if it is conscious, it is intentionally eluding and confusing us. But it also shows itself. If its intent is to confuse, then it shows us what it wants us to see, just as in psy-ops or counterespionage. So we can't take anything it intentionally shows us at face value. I hesitate to even look at the weird lights and other objects in the sky, because clearly they are meant to be seen-- which is to say they are there to confuse us.

I don't think those things, whatever they may be (hallucinations, aliens, faeries, demons, whatever), are trustworthy in the slightest. So in a very close metaphorical sense, they are the Prince of Lies.

I think the point is something like this: If Ultro from the planet Nyquil shows up and tells you a bunch of stuff, don't believe one damned word. Because you've either lost your mind, or you're dealing with an interdimensional traveling salesman. Caveat emptor.

--Scott

You shouldn't interpret the bible this literally. I don't think that Satan is the actual ruler of the skies. It probably has some kind of sybolic meaning. That's my guess. But I certainly do net agree with your theory.

Satan is the prince of darkness and his power comes from peoples pain his a lier and a master of disguise he can lead nations to fight each other and he is the one who persecutes us day and night but with power of knowledge shall we overcome him.

Mikrob, how would you interpret that verse then? This verse clearly calls that what is wicked and its follwers the ruler of the kingdom of the air, or in KJV, the prince and power of the air. And just curious, what is your theory? Are you confused?

I really don't know how to interpret it properly. But I don't know much about symbology. But I'm not a big fan of the bible, at least, I definitely support and acknowledge the morale value of the bible (the ten commandments etc). But I don't believe that you should see 'ruler of the kingdom of the air' as the sky, it probably has some other meaning which is not really clear to me.

It just sounds a bit weird to me that Satan (or his henchmen) is flying around in state of the art airoplanes. My theory on the UFO phenomenon is that the strange flying object are to property of the U.S goverment.

But I must compliment your theory because it would actually explain why UFO's are being seen for century's. UFO sightings have reported in the Middle Ages for instance.

It just sounds a bit weird to me that Satan (or his henchmen) is flying around in state of the art airoplanes. My theory on the UFO phenomenon is that the strange flying object are to property of the U.S goverment.


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I don't think satan is actually flying them........................

could be illusions that he has made, he was an angel until he went against God.

his demons are evil and will stop at nothing.

Then look for demons here:

Have any of you read the Whitley Steiber book communion? I have and seen the movie. Now I am not one to believe the "true-life" story of alien abductions written by a sci-fi author, however, Communion is a great read. In it there is a scene where Whitley goes into a room where the aliens appear to be motionless, in mid air. Puzzled, he goes up to them to see why they are not moving. He reaches out and touches the arm, and there is no actual body, just the outer layer of skin. He reaches up and touches the face and ends up pulling off their mask. It turned out to be a suit and mask that the aliens were wearing. Now his abductions have happened his whole life supposedly. He was also supposed to be on friendly terms with them. So why would they hide themselves from Whitley? I happen to think that they want us to think of them as alien creatures from another planet

God could have created other life out in the cosmos. That life could have come to Earth or is here now! However, do we know exactly what "they" are?

One never knows, do one?

I just finished two books about this theory, 49erscout.


Nephilim by L.A. Marzulli
The Unholy Deception by the same author.

they are very well written and go into detail about aliens being fallen angels. I personally had never even thought of it before but Marzulli is very convincing. I think they are other books out there about this, but I'm just putting in my two cents. You might be interested in them.

Thanks Qarrah! I will check them out.

Why couldn't God have created both us and aliens in his own image? If the legends of the grays are true, it sounds like they have two arms, legs, eyes, etc.. I don't know much about the Bible, does it specifically state anywhere that we were the only beings created?

with all the greed and corruption id say satan exists and god doesnt

i don't think the Greys, Bigfoot etc are products of Satan there is no proof that they are as well as there is no poof that they arn't either

Where in the Bible does it say Satan rules for 1000 years? ( It's a rhetorical question it doesn't say it anywhere) But I do agree with the point you are making. Satan as we have him defined in our Bible will deceive and lie to us and he has a whole lot of experience doing it. The thought that these unknown things could be manipulating our leaders playing off their arrogance and greed is scary. But if you read the Bible and believe it then these things or something like it are gonna happen and it's not a bad thing.

so...in answering a question with a question, what is this deception you are speaking of to begin with.

Or better yet.

What is the point of the post,
to say that society's mindset is the subject of some kind of deception or riteous undertaking(which is already obvious)?

or are you just trying to say that the idea of UFO's is evil?
or are you just trying to subliminally glorify the bible in saying that the reason everythings going to shambles is because of this 'devil' the bible speaks of ? sounds to me like another harpist tryin to raise a here hear to the bible and christianity or whatever...
spare us the additional hysteria and don't do's that already plagues the unnatural numbers of us what is this supposed to get me to buy into the readings of the book of the bible, just because it unspecifically relates to something by being glory hog and stating the inevitable?

nothing against religion but why does everyone have an explaination from the bible?

why do people begin to incorporate the completely heresay idea of religion into everyday events, or natural occurances...like all it does is create hysteria and disorder....common theme? organized religion seems to be the devil in that too many problems are associated with it. i.e. fighting holy wars or doing things 'in the name of god'...i think we went wrong as soon as we started intellectually communicating with each other... like do people not see that we are the same reason were bitching about, like what if its 'the devils' work, is saying that it is gonna make it go away somehow? when you close your ideas to a set mindset...your in a sense drowning yourself from the truth in that you forgot the ability to learn for yourself after you set all your faith into something some job collaborated that could have relevance into any scenario...its called blinding by faith...

sometimes i don't think all of it is 'the devil's work' but the free-will of man, that all these tragedies are happening in this world.

An easy fulcrum. It is not cool to believe in the bible so if you state anything against the Bible you have instant agreement and following amongst "the Cool Knowers" You know - Werewolves, Vampires, ridiculous fantasies like that, as the prepetrators of these daydreams all have one thing in common - the most evil looking and sounding is the most desireable. Not very cool around your mates to give unto others, turn the other cheek, share love, help the less fortunate etc. Also, people like to be right. Crapping on the Bible gets all the above as well as athiests and the like on board. Mention a religion and you are a bit of a loner. Nobody likes to be alone. Coward's way out really, strength in numbers without having to gain or earn trust, even though the numbers in this case are false economy. There are more "Harpists" for Werewolves and Vampires than the Bible in here. Don't think this post glorifies the Bible in any way that I can see. Wouldn't make me want to race out and buy copy.


You might say the bible is interpretations, and you would be right, know what it's real purpose is? To propgate giving unto others, turning the other cheek, sharing love, helping the less fortunate etc. You do not have to die for God - that's been done, you are just expected to pick up the message of treat each other nice. Gee, how uncool. Real evil is turning on each other and causing pain.

Satan a UFO pilot. Nah, I don't think so. This "theory" is a bit whacky for me. The Bible states that God made all things living. As for Greys, they would have to exist first before they could be created. There is not one reliable and undeniable shred of evidence to prove that they do exist. They seem a bit too "Hollywood" for me.

Spot on. We make our own decisions.