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Mr. 420
I doubt that considering there hasnt been an epidemic of sleeping sickness since 1970. Though 40,000 people in Africa die each year, there have only been 3 epidemics since the 1800's.

frogfish
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doubt that considering there hasnt been an epidemic of sleeping sickness since 1970

I am making a point here..I know that.
Mr. 420
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Tangerine Sheri
Frog now your paranoia is showing.......It appears you buy into the fear propaganda lol....whatever works for you....My husband is fine 20 years later.....It seems again you are wrong....lol ( we have a nower poster who also managed to come back from africa alive and well ...You have insisted that there is long term studies on vaccinations it was posted on the vaccination thread ( although you claim it wasn't) purplos was very gracious and posted info on just this......I would ask you to back up your claim that their is these phantom long term stiudies over hte years......Frog pay attention in the class lol...........
Kahrie
QUOTE(Sheri berri @ May 6 2006, 04:56 PM) [snapback]1176635[/snapback]

basic minor sickness, I meant never anything serious, never anything requiring antibiotics..nor anything his own immunity couldn't handle..I 'm guessing your a younger person based on your fears, You are misinformned on illness and it seems very frightened of it...
The fear constructs people buy into.. no.gif .if a young person is getting sick alot their diet is bad a healthy immune system rarely gets sick....lol maybe your doctor can help you with understanding illness....
robbie earth to robbie we are talking kids here...stay with the class lol



obviously a younger person?! rolleyes.gif yeah o.k I'M OVER 20 im not misinformed i know alot about the immune system etc and the effects it has on children I HAVE A DEGREE in the subject. you can have a healthy diet and still be sick rolleyes.gif rofl.gif i have no fears only YOU DO when you want to contradict everyone elses ideas so they can agree with yours?! yeah right wacko.gif
robbieb
tlak about propaganda sherri ur posintg alot of it yourself all u have bene saying is there arent this or isnt that but u havent said anything aobut anything that proves hat u say is right. as far as im concerned vaccinations DO have a profound impact on the over all health of the world all u say is eathing healthy will prevent u from being sick but ur wrong u can be haelthy and still die of a stroke or cancer now im not saying vaccinations cure either of those although vaccinations are being worked on with cancer but anyway the thing is just because u eat right and were breast fed doesnt mean u are prevented from getting sick. none of us are supeman we are all mortal and our immune systems are not fool proof.


if i may ask did u further your education after highschool and if so in what field?
Kahrie
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tlak about propaganda sherri ur posintg alot of it yourself all u have bene saying is there arent this or isnt that but u havent said anything aobut anything that proves hat u say is right. as far as im concerned vaccinations DO have a profound impact on the over all health of the world all u say is eathing healthy will prevent u from being sick but ur wrong u can be haelthy and still die of a stroke or cancer now im not saying vaccinations cure either of those although vaccinations are being worked on with cancer but anyway the thing is just because u eat right and were breast fed doesnt mean u are prevented from getting sick. none of us are supeman we are all mortal and our immune systems are not fool proof.
if i may ask did u further your education after highschool and if so in what field?



AGREED. thumbsup.gif i was breast-feed and eat healthy I STILL GET SICK rolleyes.gif it's ignorant to think that just because you are 'healthy' your not going to get sick. i agree with robbieb you need TO GIVE US LINKS on your comments and so-called 'findings' because so far your just providing personal belief and opinion not HARD FACTS. next time take this to heart. happy.gif

OH and basic minor sickness?! I HAD WHOOPING COUGH AND BAD STOMACH problems that forced me into hospital so i do know what i'm talking about
robbieb
u also say there are no long term studies of vaccines. but ur wrong its called if it works or not. if they dont work things liek polio would still be around. due to the vaccine its next to unheard for anyone to get it.
Tangerine Sheri
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Tangerine Sheri
"Manipulating the immune system with 33 doses of 10 different vaccines before the age of five weakens immunity, ... leaving the child vulnerable to other infectious diseases. Some qualified scientists are suggesting that mass immunization is directly contributing to the now widespread increase in auto-immune, degenerative disease and allergic conditions. Parents and practitioners generally agree that children who are not vaccinated are healthier overall than vaccinated children, although no studies have been done to confirm this yet In my case it was a doctor who strongly urged me to research vaccinations contrary to frogs All doctors support vaccinations NOT TRUE, not all doctors support vaccinations...Medicine is changing there are alot of alternatives than ever before......

.....Does it make sense to mandate vaccines for every child given the risks involved? The public health strategy for eliminating diseases includes universal vaccines for everyone, regardless of risks to the individual." Some children must be sacrificed in order to achieve the goal of eradicating disease in a population. They tell us that more lives will be lost to the disease if we don’t vaccinate against it. But is this statement really true in the current reality of high-tech medicine in a population with effective sanitation and knowledge about the immunology of breastfeeding?


Karhie what is it you know about the immunology of breast feeding??????
Its interesting how i was pointed in the right direction by guess who a doctor...lol


We cannot wipe out every disease on the planet. It may be more sensible to focus on strengthening our children’s immune systems to deal with the increasing number of different “superbugs” created by the inappropriate and massive use of antibiotics than to inject numerous toxins into their delicate, developing bodies. If we use breastmilk, good nutrition, herbs, naturopathy, homoeopathy, or other immune-enhancing methods to keep our children’s immune systems strong, then why would we want to inject foreign material and toxins into their bodies, especially since there have been no long term studies done to prove their safety?


An increasing number of parents are not willing to take the risk of sacrificing their child to a point of view that goes against their core beliefs about health and wellness.

At the doctor’s office, parents are given a two-page “Vaccine Information Statement” which highlights the importance of vaccines and downplays the harmful effects. and you must sign a waver..... Many parents are coerced into vaccinating their children with the threat of losing their doctor, having their children denied school attendance, and charges of medical neglect. I have met peopel who have fleed states that threatened to take ther children for not wanting to vaccinate..... Children have actually been taken away from their parents, forcibly vaccinated, and placed in the care of the “state” when their parents chose to protect them from vaccines. Informed consent means that an informed patient (or parent) should always have absolute freedom to accept or reject any specific medical treatment or procedure. The patient (or parent) has the right to be treated sensitively and compassionately while learning about his or her options. The doctor is both ethically obligated and legally required to participate in a communication process that helps the patient to understand risks and benefits as well as alternatives. In my case I have a doctor such as this many don't .There are informed consent statutes and case laws in all 50 states in the U.S. Why don’t these revered informed consent laws apply when it comes to vaccines? Parents are almost never told about exemptions to state vaccine laws. They are usually told they do not have a choice.

I have stood and heard school officials lie and say you must be vaccinated to get into school NOT TRUE there are exemptions in most states.....

rotavirus vaccine, which was found to cause severe bowel obstructions. This vaccine was pulled from the market last year. A substantial number of babies were injured and required surgery, and one baby died from the vaccine. Frog are you reading this?????

We, as a society, have become obsessed with fear of infectious disease. This is mainly because we don’t understand it. We blindly put our faith in the medical establishment and public health officials who view disease as an enemy to exterminate at all costs, regardless of the number of damaged children and deaths that may occur in the process. When we accept these policies, we give our power over to the government and vaccine industry and let them intrude in our health care choices. The drug companies and government health officials need to be held accountable for the injuries, deaths and chronic illnesses caused by the vaccines they produce, promote, sell, and mandate for mass use. We, as parents, need to take our power back and make informed choices for our children.


A thankyou goes to purplos for finding this article......
frogfish
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I would ask you to back up your claim that their is these phantom long term stiudies over hte years......

Check out the CDC...I think they know more than you...lol

Tangerine Sheri
QUOTE(frogfish @ May 7 2006, 09:15 AM) [snapback]1178049[/snapback]

Check out the CDC...I think they know more than you...lol

I did no long term studies frog.......
frogfish
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I did no long term studies frog.......

CDC does...
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