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ShadowDancer
I found this on MSNBC it freaked me out,
I put it in the Bizarre section, because to me, the reaction of the people is bizarre. The ones who don't react, I mean.

disturbing video. Please watch
coldethyl
This is really disturbing. I'm glad my kids are older.
LizFL
the story has been removed. can you tell us about it?
crouton
The link doesn't work anymore.

I had a disturbing experience in a grocery store parking lot one day. I was putting my groceries in the trunk of my car, when a large SUV type vehicle parked a few spaces away from me. A little boy and his father (I presumed) got out, and the little boy came around the back of the car that was parked between his SUV and my car while his father went around the front of the car (in other words, they were not together, the length of the car was between them). The little boy then said to me in a quiet voice 'Help me, I'm being abducted.' Or something like that, I can't remember exactly what it was he said. I was shocked. I didn't know what to do. I think I said 'What?', and he repeated 'I'm being abducted.' I just stood there, and then his 'father' called to him, and the little boy ran over to him and together they went into the store. I didn't know what to do. I got in my car, and drove around the parking lot trying to decide what to do. In the end I went home, very upset, and called my sister, told her, and then called some child-protection hotline and told them. They assured me that it was probably not true. But to this day I wonder. If it happened to me now, I would follow them into the store and alert the manager. But at the time, I was totally clueless, and in shock. The boy didn't look like he was being abused, or anything, but isn't that the way it so often is? It really showed me the importance of being alert at all times, and knowing what to do in situations like this, before they happen. I just hope the boy is allright.
ShadowDancer
QUOTE(Frank'n'Liz @ Apr 26 2006, 05:24 PM) [snapback]1164894[/snapback]

the story has been removed. can you tell us about it?

blink.gif that is wierd!!

It was an exercise done by a team of law enforcers, the same who go into schools to teach children about safety. This test they did, in a city street, a man walking in the public with a girl about 11 years old, and he is pretending to abduct her. He is grabbing her by the arm and she is screaming "No you're not my dad! HELP!" over and over, and the people walking by, stop, look, and keep ON walking.
ohmy.gif

Older couple, young couple, men alone, women alone, just walk by, don't do anything.
The man said he was there for an hour before 2 men stopped, checked it out, put down there bags and ran toward the man and the child. At that point the man yelled "cameras, police right there"... so in the end, if your child is in the street being abducted, pray go God someone with a conscience stops and helps.
It was messed up. It really disturbs me that all those people didn't help.
The one woman who walked by and did nothing said to the camera afterward "I didn't want the responsibilty, I figured someone else would help" ohmy.gif

Human nature is really scary.

Makes me worry about my son even more.
Conspiracy
people that dont help kids in those situations are horrible, i remember hearing on the news a few weeks ago that some 40 year old man in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada tried abducting a 13 year old girl off the street around 8ish at night or w/e and no one was around but some guy driving by stopped got out and saved her and chased that raper off before he could do anything to the lil girl
Regan17
I heard that some girl(14years old i think) was actually raped on the streets of Germany....and no one did anything until after it happened.
crouton
QUOTE(Conspiracy @ Apr 27 2006, 09:43 AM) [snapback]1165884[/snapback]

people that dont help kids in those situations are horrible, i remember hearing on the news a few weeks ago that some 40 year old man in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada tried abducting a 13 year old girl off the street around 8ish at night or w/e and no one was around but some guy driving by stopped got out and saved her and chased that raper off before he could do anything to the lil girl



In an obvious situation like that, yes, people who don't help are bad. But in my own defense, the boy who approached me looked healthy, and was well dressed. And I went into shock. I mean, I didn't expect anything like that to happen to me, ever!!!!. And I was all alone out in the parking lot, and had no idea what the man might have done to me, which still doesn't justify my non-action. It's easy to say afterwards 'Why didn't anyone help?', but when suddenly confronted with something like this, it's sort of mind numbing. Am I ashamed I didn't help this boy? Yes. At the time I hadn't thought about what to do in this type of situation. Now I know what I would do. It's important for everyone to be prepared if it happens to them. But don't judge so easily.
coldethyl
QUOTE(crouton @ Apr 27 2006, 06:52 PM) [snapback]1166413[/snapback]

In an obvious situation like that, yes, people who don't help are bad. But in my own defense, the boy who approached me looked healthy, and was well dressed. And I went into shock. I mean, I didn't expect anything like that to happen to me, ever!!!!. And I was all alone out in the parking lot, and had no idea what the man might have done to me, which still doesn't justify my non-action. It's easy to say afterwards 'Why didn't anyone help?', but when suddenly confronted with something like this, it's sort of mind numbing. Am I ashamed I didn't help this boy? Yes. At the time I hadn't thought about what to do in this type of situation. Now I know what I would do. It's important for everyone to be prepared if it happens to them. But don't judge so easily.


Shock is very debilitating. You shouldn't blame yourself for something like that. The situation you experienced was not an obvious one. In the video this topic refers to it is obvious that the child is being abducted and she is yelling that the man taking her is not her father. What you experienced was most likely a joke as the police stated. Don't beat yourself up.
ShadowDancer
the link works now
disturbing video. Please watch
aquatus1
I had to deal with this issue when I set up an Escape and Evasion course for my Sea Cadets. The simple fact of the matter is that crime tends to shock people who are not prepared for it, and a person approached by a young child and told that a crime is in progress will register shock. Right, wrong, good bad, doesn't matter. It happens, and you have to deal with it.

I trained my Cadets to, if the situation came up, force adults to help. That means that not only do they say that a crime is happening (i.e., I'm being kidnapped!), they also grab on to that person's arm and do not let go. In other words, instead of leaving the adult as a spectator, have them become involved, and you get a greater chance of them helping out.

coldethyl
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Apr 28 2006, 11:26 AM) [snapback]1167071[/snapback]

I had to deal with this issue when I set up an Escape and Evasion course for my Sea Cadets. The simple fact of the matter is that crime tends to shock people who are not prepared for it, and a person approached by a young child and told that a crime is in progress will register shock. Right, wrong, good bad, doesn't matter. It happens, and you have to deal with it.

I trained my Cadets to, if the situation came up, force adults to help. That means that not only do they say that a crime is happening (i.e., I'm being kidnapped!), they also grab on to that person's arm and do not let go. In other words, instead of leaving the adult as a spectator, have them become involved, and you get a greater chance of them helping out.


That is an excellent idea. Hopefully people would have a hard time ignoring a child clinging to their arm begging for help. I am going to remember that for my nieces.
Conspiracy
QUOTE(crouton @ Apr 27 2006, 06:52 PM) [snapback]1166413[/snapback]

In an obvious situation like that, yes, people who don't help are bad. But in my own defense, the boy who approached me looked healthy, and was well dressed. And I went into shock. I mean, I didn't expect anything like that to happen to me, ever!!!!. And I was all alone out in the parking lot, and had no idea what the man might have done to me, which still doesn't justify my non-action. It's easy to say afterwards 'Why didn't anyone help?', but when suddenly confronted with something like this, it's sort of mind numbing. Am I ashamed I didn't help this boy? Yes. At the time I hadn't thought about what to do in this type of situation. Now I know what I would do. It's important for everyone to be prepared if it happens to them. But don't judge so easily.



dont blame urself, atleast u had the thought of it being bad and wanted to help but didnt know what to do, most people just ignore it cuz they dont care or it doesnt hurt them so bleah, if i saw a kid being dragged around screaming id chase the guy down and beat him to a pulp
crouton
Thanks, coldethyl and conspiracy. At the time it was horrible, but now that I have thought about it, and know what to do if it ever happens again, I feel a little better about it. And the boy wasn't screaming, or being dragged or anything. It might have just been a case of divorced parents and he wanted to go with his mother, rather than his father. He certainly looked normal and healthy.
ShadowDancer
crouton, it probably was just that, you know how kids can sometimes want to make us look bad, I know my son has yelled out really loud "OUCH mommy that hurts!!" in the middle of wal-mart because I had flicked him on the shoulder for running away from me. He's a real actor. But as mentionned, if the child was screaming "HELP your not my dad" I think I would investigate further.
mars1102
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crouton, it probably was just that, you know how kids can sometimes want to make us look bad, I know my son has yelled out really loud "OUCH mommy that hurts!!" in the middle of wal-mart because I had flicked him on the shoulder for running away from me. He's a real actor. But as mentionned, if the child was screaming "HELP your not my dad" I think I would investigate further.


i agree, most of the time the girl in the video didnt say he's not my dad he just said "why did u run away" or whatever and she just started yelling...i would of thought it was a child being bad and walked by. i mean if someone would of said something all the guy had to say was "this is my daughter she's just being bad." and still made off with her
crouton
Thanks, mars1102 and shadow dancer. And shadow dancer, I didn't mean to 'abduct' your thread!!! original.gif
ShadowDancer
LOL
You didn't
Share all you want grin2.gif
Xyfer
Wow that video is frightening
Tobias Shamtul
if i sawthat id chasethe guy down and slam his head into the curb a few times then a wishbone on him tongue.gif
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