I read a bit of it, but nowadays, to me the idea of hell is ridiculous. It makes no sense. People have had messages from the afterlife - visited the afterlife, had channelings from spirit and advanced souls in other planes, all saying there is no such place.

Why would there be? Eternal suffering, indescribable pain. Why? For mistakes made by those who are 'only human'. For those who believe in a creator, I don't understand how they can think they would be punished by a God that is supposed to be all-loving. Why punish your creation because you made it flawed??

I don't buy it. The invention of hell is an attempt to control the behaviour of men, through fear of the unknown.

We are now getting more and more knowledge about this unknown and there is only Love.

Well lets hope that for both our sakes your right, and we don't end up meeting in some hottish place! I do understand where your coming from! Though ask yourself this question, if you're to have ever lasting life, for what you have done in the mortal world, then why can't it be the reverse? Though personally, I do believe that there is some kind of punishment for those who murder and deceive and the like! Though precisely what it is we shall never quite know till we get there, there is nothing like belief without proof, everyone is right and everyone is wrong!

I'm not afraid of death itself only the way I might die scares me and I hope it's not to painfull. Death isn't the end, we are spiritual eternal beings experiencing a human life.

I wouldn't want a slow, painful death either. I think about death from time to time, I'm sure that we all do. It is one of the greatest mysteries. I look forward to death, though I don't want to leave. I am just curious to know what is to come.

I share the same thoughts.

NO. As long as it's painless and quick.

I don't believe in an afterlife, so no, I am not afraid or looking-foward to anything after I die. I think when I am dying it will be a relief to know.

oh honestly, what's with this thing and death. don't any of you believe in the actual person still living even though they have died in physical form. I do. I believe that the only thing that dies when you die is your physical exsistence. But your soul it is what the bible says eternal life. forever living. never dying.

I believe when i die, my body will be eaten by worms and bugs. Through natural decomposition, all that will be left is bone and hair. Hopefully i can finally catch up on all that sleep i missed out on.

what's to be afraid of? Either you belive you have a spirit in which case you don't really die.
or you beleive you just die in which case you have nothing to worry about after your dead nothing happens after your dead the universe stops for you.

that is just my feeling about death and i would have to say No I'm not afraid of death.

I for one am completely afraid of dying and I can never accept death not because of what happens right before or after death but simply so I have a stronger will to live. Plus no one knows for shore what happens after death but it very possible that no matter how good of a person you are. It still might be unimaginable suffering. I also don't care how I die so long as I'm trying not to.

Looking at the experiences with life after death, I realized that it isn't death that i should fear, but only how I die.

Nothing to painful, if I do die in a tragic accident.

However I'd like to die, maybe old or when you're given the choice to make your last breath, when all your family/loved ones are around you. I think that's the best way anyone would want to cross over.

And i agree Poopr-man, I'd like to live longer... I mean I've helped my parents and friends out with dealing with their problems and I'd like to help them even more. Although I don't want to go into councelling as a career

We all make heaven and hell right here on earth. Isnt the child molester in hell and the wise man in heaven? If thats true then it would make sence that when our body dies then we take that which we created while alive to death.Really I just mean Karma

From my experiences and thoughts, i've learned that life is a journey and it's what you do and learn in life, either changing your behaviour for the good or bad, that will ultimately decide your fate and the fate of the others around you.

Am I right?

That's exactly what I was going to say.Everything about death is scary; the pain before
you die;and what happens after death is the most scary. without awareness of what's
going to happen after you die keeps you in complete fear.

I'm very afraid to die, not so much the dying part; but what happen after i pass, will i be a ghost or in heaven (or hell) or will i just rot in ground.

Why you wouldnt have fear for death?, IT IS A NATURAL ANIMAL INSTINCT, WE MUST SURVIVE, and thats why we humans cheat because of our IQ, Medicine itself its the search of makink mankind inmortal in otherwords...

Is anyone else here glad that they're going to die?

HEHE, anyone who thinks that way can be considered INSANE, but think about it WE LIVE TO DIE!

I know sceptics and maybe non-sceptics too will think that im just a stupid teen-age wannabe who just comes up with these things, but I thought I'd still write it here.
I had a dream were I was standing by a gravestone, and there was some kind of funeral, and my name was on the gravestone. Otherwise I wouldn't bother writing about it here but it said that I had died on 17 may 2006 and thats on this wednesday and one other thing is that I hardly ever remember any from my dreams someties I remember some small things, but this time I remembered everything in detail, even the exact spot of the gravestone.
I, as an sceptic don't really think I'll die that day, but I would like to know what that dream meant, and if I do die then I would like to say goodbye to all, it has been great writing and reading here. bye

f*** Yeah!!!

But my time is not yet, i chose life about a month ago after carefully planning to end it. But, due to the help i sought and I decided that i didnt want my parents to bury their own child.... When ur depressed ur irrational, illogical and sometimes it feels that the only way out of this hell hole that prepeturates its self by thriving of ur own self loathing, is to remove urself from it.

Death and Taxes are the ONLY things that we are garanteed in this life. If i was not to die, say... become immortal, i would see those i love grow old and die, i would grieve and this cycle would happen continously, i couldnt stand that, i can bearly stand it now let alone having repeat performances...

define "sane" for me and then answer me this...

Are you a doctor of psychiatric medicine?

Death is just a part of life, so why be afraid?

*bump*

Thats just silly. Dreams mean nada.

Good luck with that deadline tomorrow Dark Lord...

Dark Lord- from what i understand about dreams, something in ur life is ending, which leaves something new and exciting to begin.

I have been dead.

Deadth is more beautiful than life



Cheers
MJ

Dont you mean clinically dead for a few minutes? I dont think that classifies as death exactly.

Pure and simply................Yes

4 days counts up good enough for you?

Howcome your jesus impersonation hasn't been heard anywhere then?

thx, still here and I hope I'll wake up tomorrow to

Guess what, I’ve died not once but twice… honest…..

First time in a car crash, wrapped it round a tree and the second more painful, a living death, the death of the mortal soul, toooooo many parties and way to many drugs can do that to a guy….

So do I fear death, hell no, bring it on just as long as there are no crosses and big nails to pin me to it….

Think I’ll enjoy life a little bit longer, fingers crossed…. Lol….

i'm not so much afraid of dying just afraid of dying young and not getting to live life, really don't understand the song that says "only the good die young"?

If your a good person don't fear it. trust me there, now if you've lead a double life and have been secretly coercing the farmers daughter for years well.. fear death... ive seen both axis. trust me good is way better. have fun and enjoy whatever fate lies in store for you. be good..

Because you need to tell people for them to tell other and so on.

I live alone, i died alone at home and now i am here alone at home.


I dont expect you to believe because this incident is beyond your understanding, it was beyond my understanding aswell until it happned.



Cheers
MJ

Most miracle makers here are conveniently alone when these things happen. I cant help but wonder though, if you were dead for that long, how could you have verified that being alone?

I am sorry but this looks unlikely to be a genuine article...



And I sincerely hope you keep up waking for many many years to come my friend... Life is too short to waste valuable time thinking about dying.

Like i said i do not expect you to understand what i say, i do believe that 99.9 % of people will not believe what i say.

There are some things in life you will only believe if you been through something of that sort in your life.

I long for the life of people who claim my stories are BS, because your life is eventless and happy.

Cheers
MJ

My selfish side wants to stay, but my curious side says lets see whats there.

a fellow NDE'r(?).
Question to ponder:

You had quite an endellable experience.
Don't you want to learn more?


Your experience was a wakeup call, an ah-ha moment, not the end but the beginning of your "new" journey.
No idea where you go from here, but I would suggest that your journey inward should begin.
Time to start peeling the onion.
Blessings

SORRY TO SAY BUT YOU STUPID GOTH IDIOTS MAKE ME SO MAD! Why do you all think about suicide and not go through with it. Its not hard to kill yourself just get a gun and pull the trigger and if you don't have a gun o.d. on some aspirin or just stab yourself. I'm not saying in anyway I want you to kill yourself but if your going to do DO IT THEN. Plus I don't know how hard your life is but allot of goths, and I know allot of goths, live with a family with a good income and get just about everything they want and for some reason or another decide that there life is hard and want they to end it. I live in a house where we can't even afford to have gas and we haven't had gas in our house for a long time. My hole life has been hard but I just embrace the challenges as something that will make me stronger if I get through it. I am very happy you weren't stupid enough to kill yourself though cause then that would be 1 less insight on UM. Sorry to be so mean its just that it makes me mad when people consider suicide when they could just fix there problems and live a happy life. No hard feelings I hope. :

Again sorry to be so mean.

so you cant afford gas, but you can find the time to spend on the internet. use that time to make money to buy gas.

Yes/no. Initially there may be suffering but the moment right before you go is very peaceful- like going to sleep. I know, I've been there and back.

I'm seventeen and live with my dad+ My dad is stupid and can't get his priority's strait= Being broke as hell and not having gas but still having the internet.

btw I knew someone would say that I just hoped no one would so I wouldn't have to get into how pissed I am at my dad cause it has nothing to do with the conversation.

No.

I find it stupid to fear the inevitable. u know it's comin so suck it up and live a good life like there's no tomorrow

i never feared death, my dad died when he was 27 and for some unknown reason i always thought so would i,,hell sometimes i think i pressed the issue.but i didnt,and now im 32 with a daughter and a beautiful fieance..and im still not affraid of my death.i would like to think i would die like a man with some dignity.if i have to die of something other then old age i would like it to be meaniingful,not shot for my nikes. i also worry more about how i will be rememberd.what mark on the world will i leave if any..

but i do fear the death of my loved ones.i worry about that more then i ever have my own mortality

I, personally aren't afraid to die but I am afraid to not live. I wanna die old knowing that I've lived a good life.

I wanna grow old enough to meet my grandchildrem and even my great-grandkids.

when you die life starts