Fisherman also

Agreed. It's hard to not get excited when one finds tracks of what appears to be a giant snake. However, the thing with any snake, is that it's path is always going to be that of the largest area on the snakes body.

I mean i've seen countless baby corn snakes (about a 1.5 feet long, diameter of a pencil)... leave tracks almost an inch or so wide after consuming a young mouse... but yeah i was a little shocked the first time i came across track

I didn't know where to stick this pic... I know it's not a snake but still... wanted to share it, see if it's to be debunked, and dunno if a whole topic is good or what...

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any gator that is over 5 feet i think it is in florida that comes into contact with people is destroyed.

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That ain't grand.

That picture looks iffy...I never heard of a 23 foot alligator in FL...

I think its an exagguration...more like a 15 foot alligator.

Gator was actually, 13 feet and 1 inch.

my theory is instead of killign thme we release them deep in the everglades and hope they take out some burmeese pythons

You mean your proposal. Would need a lot of 13 footers to wipe them out though, as we saw with that python that blew it's belly, gators seem to be the ones getting eaten. Seems like those Burmese Pythons are on the top of the food chain in the everglades.
Hunting them for commercial purposes is one way to control their numbers.

once again you put your small amount of knowledge to the task and again you come to the wrong assumption. the gator that was eaten was a 6 footer. no burmeese python can eat this 13 foot gator. now if u do more research there are many clips of gators in the everglades making quick snacks of the burmeese pythons. a full gorwn male gator is the top of the food chain in the everglades NOT a full grown burmeese python. Gators are the APEX preadator in there domain. not a snake nor a moutain lion or bear can defeat a full gorwn one only another full grown one. comercial hunting in the everglades is not the ideal solution it would harm more then just the burmeese python popultation. a naturl solution is always better.

If that's the case than in it won't take long until we're left with just a pygmy species.

-Double post-

And once again, your small amount of grammar knowledge and understanding makes you look like, well you know what. I SAID, you would be needing a lot of 13 footers to do the job, get it??? Now, how many 13 footer alligators do you think there is out there?
Are you going to train all the gators then to eat nothing but Pythons?

that middle ones from weekly world news. which means its utterly fake.

13' gator is pretty big still! so that pic is the real deal?

can't say I've ever seen one that big in person. looks like it'd eat me pretty quick.

That wasn't necessary, you should try to keep any negative comments directed at other members to yourself.



Same for you. A lack of 'grammar knowledge' is not indicatory of anything except, well, a lack of grammatical knowledge.

Leave the unnecessary comments out or this thread will end up getting locked.

i'm not sure if a 13ft Gator would kill a 25 to 30 foot Burmese Python.....a python this size is flippin' enormous and as strong as hell.

a 25 foot Anaconda could kill a 13ft Caiman with ease....and has done quite a few times.[attachmentid=26055]

The bickering should be stopped...also, this thread has gotten off-topic.

I don't think this is fact, sorry robbie. I hear on the news the other day that Florida wildlife officials were simply relocating larger alligators with the recent fatalities. Some were killed, however they were believed to be responsible for the death of the women.


As for big snakes in the everglades... well i have a serious problem with that... And it's not
with the animals. It's with the irresponsible pet owners who rather then take responsibility
of dealing with their pet, they simply let it go without thinking about the long term
consequences. I don't think the answer to wiping out this foreign snakes species is by introducing more and more bigger alligators... officials have tried this once before...
In Austrialia with Cane Toads... and look how well that turned out.

Honestly, the only way to solve this problem is to have strict regulations for reptile owners, similar to those of austrialia. People have to know that to let an animal loose like that,
there going to be consequences... Whether it be jail time or fines. A strong message has
to be sent if Florida plans on keeping it's everglades the way they are.

Well, seems like you are guilty of it yourself with your comment. I'd say cool it or this thread will end up getting locked up.

What do you do with those already out there?
And are they breeding?

Topic is just expanding, I see no problem with it.

I take that back, you have a point there. This is Cryptozoology discussion alright.
To all, enough with the Burmese Python discussion then!

Thats one big snake.

Psyche said stop it...I suggest you stop NOW.

Psyche? You got it wrong. But no problem stopping it, hopefully others won't START it AGAIN. Now let's debate cleanly

The proportions of the snake still look off. The body almost seems like that of a crocodile. Like the legs cant be seen because the water is too murky. And I still think the measurements are off. If there was a snake that big someone would had to have taken more than 1 photo. There has to be a clearer image somewhere.

YUP! Not much excitement happened when the photo was taken.
Just one photo, I bet the story would say, they ran out of film or camera broke.

Atleast some people are staying on topic

One solution, one that i'm not totally comfortable with, and would have animal righs activists screaming; would be to do as they did back 50 years ago with rattlesnakes. Put a price on any boid found. Bigger the snake bigger the reward?

As is there are already part time volunteers, scientists and wildlife officials keeping an open eye out for these snakes and reptiles... Iguanas are running rampant down there as well.

As for breeding populations, i have read about a breeding population of green iguana's found in some areas of florida, but as for pythons and other boids I haven't seen any articles. If anyone does find some, please post. Personally i can't see why there would'nt be pythons or boas breeding, i've read articles of wildlife officials finding as many as 100 pythons in the past few years. If they aren't, well it's only a matter of time.

This is just pure speculation, it doesnt look that big any way. There is not proof its 25 ft let alone more.

There's really nothing to compare its size with in the picture, so we can't tell how big it is.

Talking of big snakes.
Just wondering if anyone has seen this video of the largest snake in captivity. Fluffy This is the beautiful tiger retic, Fluffy, owned by Bob Clark. I suppose that if a snake can get this big in captivity within about 12 years with limited living space then who knows how big they can get in the wild.
Also anyone who likes snakes should like this video. Bob Clark which also contains a two headed King Snake and some more footage of Fluffy.

I agree. Plus, a 115 foot snake doesn't seem too strange compared to the Nguma-monene of the Dongou-Mataba River of the Congo. Natives claim to have seen it and it is said to be 130 to 195 feet long!

Most of you believer just never learn: Imagine how much pain an animal this big would suffer due to it's way of life? It'll have a greater problem chasing prey, greater problem on the water (where anacondas mostly lurks) and greater problem to avoid being seen!

My uncle was on the BBC expedition team when they caught the biggest name ever live. I gave his name already and he can prove it. He's a well credited nature journalist who's been travelled the world for this kind of thing. I followed his path but only got as far as Europe and Asia on my own expenses, so I hate when somebody stated an educationally useful post, but being rebutted by this simple, cliche and irresponsible line: "human haven't search all over the planet, it's not impossible this creature exist!". I'll say "Yeah, right!" to that!

And you trust some natives distant observations of some giant monster? Do you think that it is accurate? Even if the creature would be real, it's unlikely they would accurately estimate its size from afar or from legend...

hooooly crap! thats a nasty snake!! 5 tons REALY?!?! thats nuts.

It's a fake for crying out loud. No Anaconda ever weighed near one tonne, let alone 5.

no that you know of anyway...

The 1948 snake is bloody well a mere legend, sprung from some ridiculous sensationalist newspaper story. The same goes for the 135-foot 4 tonne snake. The picture that exist of the 1948 snake are obviously faked, and the picture of the other 135-foot snake shows a mere floating bloated dead corpse with nothing which to use for validating the size.

dont get me wrong but...that looks like a giant anaconda

The picture above was taken in 1959 by a Belgium helicopter pilot, Col. Remy Van Lierde, while on patrol over the congo. The snake he saw measured approximately 40 to 50 feet in length, dark brown/green with a white belly. It had triangle shaped jaws and a head about 3 ft x 2 ft. Experts have analyzed the pictures and have verified them as authentic. They also have verified the size of the creature by matching ground features to the snake. As the helicopter flew in lower the snake raised up 10 feet and looked as if it would strike at the helicopter if they flew any closer.

Oh they have not. The ground features beyond the snake are inconsistent and excessively blurred. No "experts" have said this picture is "authentic"; it's commonly discussed in giant snake stories (is it supposed to be a gigantic rock python or what?) but there has been no definite verification of its size.

It looks like somebody just took a picture of a small snake close to the ground and wrote a story that the picture was taken from the air. The same was done with a miniature model of bigfoot, the picture in Washington.

No, it's not. I ran it through a few translators, infact it's EXACTLY corret.


They did.

Who? When? Where? "Experts" my butt.

The information provided on the photographs is irrelevant. It's what was reported originally, doesn't mean the snake was actually anywhere near that size.

12 -13 ft gators are not as rare as you guys and gals might think.
most of the everglades in FL are protected areas that dont see alot of human traffic.
a 8-10 ft gator is a common site in populated lakes, retention pondsand other areas of Florida and they dont relocate or molest the animals unless they are found encroaching onto a residential property.

pretty much.. every body of freshwater in the state of florida has alligators.

when 12 ft gators are caught in backyard ponds.. imagine what is out in the deep swamp.

remember...
Just a few short years ago.. the giant squid was just another " seamonster" and pics and even carcasses were laughed off as fakes or mistakes.


Giant 50 ft + snakes and oversized 13-18ft gators arent out of the realm of reality.

You think rather highly of yourself for a noob.

it is true for a big snake lets say 15-20+ meters to have a hard time moveing in land but keep in mind in the depths of amazon, they mostly swim trough rivers, and do not go to far in to the main land.

for over 100s of years the tribes around the amazon river claim seeing gigantic snakes, far bigger than 30ft, Bull eaters, i do not think these are lies.
and what do you people expect for proof?
would u stand still if you saw a 20-30 meter snake comming by just to try to prove for the Rest of the world they do exist? i dont think so, u put your legz behind your back and run like u never run before.


GASH freakkin

When was that? Architeuthis was described in 1857, and there were plenty of beachings in the 1870-80's...