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The Raven
Infinite Matrix Singularity Theory [I.M.S Theory]

For quite some time now I've had a theory brewing in my head. It can be considered more of a hypothesis since it has little or no scientific evidence to back it up. Logic, reasoning, and oddities seem to back it up, though. I've finally decided to compile the core structure of this absurd theory and, after drawing some diagrams, post it on UM.

I don't expect you to fully comprehend the theory, because in reality I don't fully understand it myself. It may sound absurd, but through it I believe it proposes a way the dimensions are connected. Using this interconnectedness, it then goes on to offer a beginning of an explanation to the well recognized duality of Yin and Yang, and further opposing forces such as the triality I have recognized in the third dimension. It's a long read, but I'd love for you to give me any feedback you've got.

The Theory

First of all, I am a strong enemy to the currently accepted scientific theory of the Big Bang. I do not believe in a beginning nor an end to time or the universe. I believe in Eternity, that is there is no end or beginning. The Big Bang was simply a rebirth. I also believe that the 4th-dimension is time. I will go on to elaborate on each of these concepts. I tell them now so you know my basic belief that has gone into this theory.

Creation: Time is like a mathematical equation. If you've had an education past the sixth grade, you'll probably be aware of repeating decimals. In a sense, this is the representation of time I have chosen. A repeating although for the most part, unpredictable, varying, and infinitely chaotic singularity.

Parallel universes exist in an infinite, unlimited amount. In our world perceived generally in three dimensions, parallel universes are created at an alarming rate. Action, reaction, and consequence conceive such things. When you slip and fall, failing to catch yourself, you had the chance of not falling. At that exact moment, a parallel universe or reality is created in which everything is identical, however you do not fall. From their you as a person exist multiple times in multiple universes, and the rest of your life is unpredictable and can take any course. Whenever there is an action, any other possible outcome is instantly generated in the parallel.

In relation to time, time is the antithetical absolute. That is, "Absolutes Absolutely Do Not Exist". However, because parallel universes exist, time is sometimes an absolute and sometimes has an end, or a beginning. When time ends in X universe, that universe instantly stops and progresses no further.

Time between creation and death is the time it takes for the two "rifts" to collide. The two interdependent rifts that create our reality are the universe we know, and the antithesis to our universe. This could possibly be the astral or another, non-material plane in which the laws of physics and everything we know does not apply; like a dark veil. Starting from the most recent "Big Bang", these veils coexist [Both being universes] beside one another, and they are like mirrors. This is why it is once again connected to possibly the astral plane, it being the 2nd universe. These two bodies are so close together that they are an infinitesimal distance apart. Eventually, as they expand as time passes [Going both directions, into the past and into the future, not just the linear view of "Time goes forward,] the galaxies and content inside the universe become so far apart that it is a great darkness. No stars would be seen as the galaxies are so far away that light cannot reach the next galaxy or celestial body. At this time, it is probably the veil between the two universes that coexist is breached. That is, the two universes collide.

Upon this collision, The Big Bang takes place. However, the Big Bang is not creation. It is simply recreation and assembly of matter that already exists and will exist. Both universes explode from this single point, the Singularity, as well as every parallel universe attached to the two core universes. This "Restarts" time, as it could be seen the two arrows of time [One going forward in time, one going back] have collided. Things in the past still "Happened", however every single trace in every single universe of the multiverse was beautifully eliminated; like the wiping of a hard drive. The data there was still there, but now it is overwritten with blankness ready to expand.

From this singularity that is the heart of the Big Bang, matter is cast out and the two coexisting universes begin expansion once again. It is probable the Big Bang takes place when they collide, because two physical bodies of such mass would spawn an incomprehensible amount of destruction. At this time, as well, the creation of parallel universes once again begins as the reality takes form again. Free will exists, so this reality will be different from the previous one. In partnership with parallel universes, once again another infinite amount of possibility is created. These all come from one point, the remnants of the two universes. Before we get too far, I must first say it is logical to believe that the destruction of these universes, the degeneration, occurs at the same speed the creation did. This is the first step at creating balance, which is seen in nature.

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This diagram is a flower like shape as the multiverse once again blooms from S, the Singularity. It is symmetrical because there is balance, that is things are being created at an equal although limitless and unpredictable, incomprehensible rate.

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This diagram shows creation as well. S stands for the singularity exploding in every direction. The triangles are shown opposing each other to stand for the two universes coexisting, A and B. Note that these universes, although not shown, can and do exist in every single direction in every possible manner. R in the diagram stands for Infinite Ray, which expand the lines of the triangles into infinity. Think of Triangle A as Positive, and Triangle B as negative. It is written this way because this is how reality is perceived in two dimensions. The spectrum of colors and the hues of purple stand for the variety of it all.

Dimensions and how they relate:

Many people confuse what a dimension is -- some think it is a plane of existence, or a universe. In reality, however, a dimension is a principal measurement required to comprehend or perceive a material or non-material object. For example, a cube is 3D. To measure and perceive it, we must have Height, Width, and Depth. Three dimensions. A square drawn on a sheet of paper is perceived three dimensionally because we perceive, generally, three dimensions, however to measure the simplest form of the square itself, we simply need two dimensions: Length, Width. The first dimension is Line, and we only need length. The Zero Dimension is point; a whole. It requires no measurement as it cannot be measured by any means.

The 4th dimension is time. We perceive time as it passes, not by our eyes, so to speak. A hypercube, being a 4-dimensional cube, must be measured with four dimensions: Width, Height, Depth, Time. The Time measurement comes into place when we measure the time it takes for the object to imprint itself into our individual time-line and is perceived. For example, the stars give off light that was created billions of years ago. We perceive it now. Each time we look up at the stars, we are creating new measurements of time that can be mapped as hypercubes. The three three-dimensional measurements can tell us how materially far we are from the source, but the fourth measurement of time will tell us how and when it is perceived. Thus the fourth dimension.

Dimensions are as limitless as numbers, however perceiving higher than the fourth becomes more and more difficult; in detail, that is. The number of dimensions required to measure the object is all we need to know about "Dimension", referring to the combination of three measurements in the Third Dimension, so to say.

From the reoccuring singularity, the content of the dimensions [Compiled number of measurements required to perceive the object or subject] grows and becomes more and more radical. Notice the below waveform graph, using the wave [Also relating to String Theory] to explain how existence is cast out from the singularity. As it becomes hotter, the red increases, showing that the higher dimension perceived, the more information contained.
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The Opposing Forces of the Universe:

As I have briefly introduced, you should now be clear that according to this theory there is an opposing force, a balance, to everything. Newton's laws classify this very effectively.

All of you have probably heard of Yin-Yang, which is a duality represented in Eastern Philosophy as the circle with two equal, opposite forces inside of it. Night:Day, Good:Evil, Dark:Light, White:Black, Male:Female. The dualities or opposing forces, equal opposites, could be listed all day. Although this is a grand way to describe our universe, it is the two dimensional way to describe it. What Yin Yang does not explain, this theory should.

There are two principal parts or measurements required to measure a two dimensional shape. Length, width. These are opposites, and fit the Yin Yang equation. This is a duality, an opposition of two. To make the same balance equation in the third dimension, you must have a Triality. Because there are three principal parts or measurements of three dimensional things, there must be three principal parts to this equation as well. This could be pictured as a "Yin Yang", but instead with three equal parts of the circle. White, Black, and Grey. Grey is not the opposite of white or black, but the combination. As the dimensions go up, so do the parts required for this greater "Yin Yang." White, Black & Shades of Grey. A spectrum of balance.

Three dimensional things all fit this figure acting as our Three-Dimensional "Yin Yang" which I will call "Trinity." For example, three dimensional things in reality include Birth:Life:Death, Black:Grey:White, Red:Yellow:Blue, Violet:Green:Orange, Up:Down:Middle. The list goes on and on, and surprisingly works for seemingly all things. If you were doing this 4-dimensionally, you would simply break things down into the 4 principal parts required.

The Limit to Perception
Because we are generally three dimensional creatures, we can only perceive with our senses, up to a certain amount. I am still working on this, but existing in the third dimension, it is likely we are able to comprehend an object or subject of any amount of dimensions, although only perceive one up to 27 dimensions. 3 x 3 x 3 = 27. If we were in the 27th dimension, we could percieve an object or subject with the dimensions from the equation 27 x 27 x 27...until 27 has been multiplied by itself 27 times; 27 to the 27th power.

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And so goes the introduction to this absurd theory. I'll answer any questions you have, but this is all I can write for now. Post your feedback and I'll respond. I look forward to it.
ImOne
If I'm not mistaken you're saying the universe existed before the big bang. That what we refer to as the big bang is only the latest expansion in an infinite series. This fits better with the 'cycle of nature' than the idea that we're riding the first and last expansion.

Jumping into the middle I.M.S Theory caused a bit of head scratching on my part so all I can really do is pick at it.

The way you describe parallel universe theory there would be so much creation that I can't really fathom it. Imagine just one universe with billions of entities involved in courses of probable action. We would need new universes not only to contain each entities probable courses, but every possible combination. In other words, just the one universe where I don't slip splits into trillions of universes for every possible combination of other people sneezing, or not sneezing at that moment. Then we need trillions times trillions where I slip 1/2 a second later. If this theory has any basis in reality the bulk of that reality must be non-physical in my opinion.

Many opposing forces exist, but the idea that opposites or trinities etc. can be applied universally is just a mental exercise and reality is not governed by it.

I didn't follow the Limit to Perception paragraph at all.
The Raven
QUOTE(ImOne @ Apr 28 2006, 10:31 PM) [snapback]1167615[/snapback]

If I'm not mistaken you're saying the universe existed before the big bang. That what we refer to as the big bang is only the latest expansion in an infinite series. This fits better with the 'cycle of nature' than the idea that we're riding the first and last expansion.

Yeah, I worded that a bit wrong. I do believe in an explosion of life, however not as the beginning, coming out of some random ball of matter that science can't explain. Multiverse, or in the case of parallels, Hyperverse, is the best way to put it versus Universe.
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The way you describe parallel universe theory there would be so much creation that I can't really fathom it. Imagine just one universe with billions of entities involved in courses of probable action. We would need new universes not only to contain each entities probable courses, but every possible combination. In other words, just the one universe where I don't slip splits into trillions of universes for every possible combination of other people sneezing, or not sneezing at that moment. Then we need trillions times trillions where I slip 1/2 a second later. If this theory has any basis in reality the bulk of that reality must be non-physical in my opinion.

It is quite a bit of creation to fathom, and of course at the colliding rifts, an amazing amount of destruction to fathom as well. This would seem to support some theory by a mundane physics theory, that if you touch something a trillion times over and over again, it is probable that one of those times the atoms will be arranged in just the right order so that you may go through the material object. Having instant parallel universes created with every possible outcome would ensure this.

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Many opposing forces exist, but the idea that opposites or trinities etc. can be applied universally is just a mental exercise and reality is not governed by it.

Well I'll still stand by it, as it seems to work for the 3rd dimension and down. Not sure how to apply it to the fourth yet. Just have to wait and see how it could work with the fifth and sixth. What I'm trying to say is that the more dimensions of an object you have, the more possibilities. If the 4th dimension, as proposed in the theory, is time and perception, then that dimension alone adds a whole new plethora of similarities.

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I didn't follow the Limit to Perception paragraph at all.

Neither do I. I'm still working that out in my head, as I seem to have forgotten the logic I put behind it. I should be able to fix it soon.

Thank you for your response. This is a fairly hard thing to grasp.
mars1102
interesting theory but i understood it fairly well...i think lol
anyway i dont have any criticsims but i did like this part

"The Opposing Forces of the Universe:

As I have briefly introduced, you should now be clear that according to this theory there is an opposing force, a balance, to everything. Newton's laws classify this very effectively.

All of you have probably heard of Yin-Yang, which is a duality represented in Eastern Philosophy as the circle with two equal, opposite forces inside of it. Night:Day, Good:Evil, Dark:Light, White:Black, Male:Female. The dualities or opposing forces, equal opposites, could be listed all day. Although this is a grand way to describe our universe, it is the two dimensional way to describe it. What Yin Yang does not explain, this theory should.

There are two principal parts or measurements required to measure a two dimensional shape. Length, width. These are opposites, and fit the Yin Yang equation. This is a duality, an opposition of two. To make the same balance equation in the third dimension, you must have a Triality. Because there are three principal parts or measurements of three dimensional things, there must be three principal parts to this equation as well. This could be pictured as a "Yin Yang", but instead with three equal parts of the circle. White, Black, and Grey. Grey is not the opposite of white or black, but the combination. As the dimensions go up, so do the parts required for this greater "Yin Yang." White, Black & Shades of Grey. A spectrum of balance.

Three dimensional things all fit this figure acting as our Three-Dimensional "Yin Yang" which I will call "Trinity." For example, three dimensional things in reality include Birth:Life:Death, Black:Grey:White, Red:Yellow:Blue, Violet:Green:Orange, Up:Down:Middle. The list goes on and on, and surprisingly works for seemingly all things. If you were doing this 4-dimensionally, you would simply break things down into the 4 principal parts required."

this part made a lot of sense to me and got my imagination moving a bit...good job!!
Immortal Norway
Wow... I can`t belive I just read all that... eccspecialy since I have heard it before.

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I'll answer any questions you have


Okay, so is there a 5th dimension and if so, what is it ?
Spunned
that was amazing... Eventhough I don't agree with it all, it was nice to hear somebody else give their opinion on this matter...

Nicely done... definitly
SandDunePsychonaut
You address many issues in your theory and I will here give my take on them, which I think you will mostly agree fits in to the theory.
Concerning your balance theory...my idea is that "God" or all that was, is, and ever will be (including us) consciously created the universe to know itself experientially and to express itself in bodily form. In order to do this god created what you have called the opposing forces of the universe and the Yin Yang. I call this the Divine Dichotomy. In theory, experientially you cannot truly know one opposite without knowing the other. In thought you can imagine what the essence of _____ would feel like. However without having felt both oh lets say peace and stress, or love and fear, or fun and boredom, but to know only one is to really only half feel what you are feeling without having felt the opposite. To know both is to truly feel.

To me it seems that what you called the 3rd dimension is how we perceive things that don't necessarily have a Dichotomy (or opposite) like God, or beingness of life, time, etc. So what we have is a Triune, or a unity of three. Body of the universe, life, and that which created it or is all of it. Or Body, Mind, Spirit. In theory there is only one of those entities, individuated into three parts. Concerning mind, body, and spirit, consider that spirit is feeling, mind is the processing of that feeling, and body is the tool in which to express that feeling.

The creation of this desire involved that which we call the big bang. All that is, was, and ever will be was compressed into an infinitely small point or "dimension". Upon this creation it exploded into the body of the universe which is still expanding. When the universe and all that is in it (matter) comes to know itself (remember) that who it truly is, was, and ever will be is truly one conscious creation experiencing itself subjectively, and that what it truly wants to feel is love, it then starts to retract back to what you call singularity, or s. With love comes a desire to be close. And close is a Divine Dichotomy relative to far. So once the universe (God's body made manifest) comes back to what you call point S, or God, it is filled with an incredible love, joy, peace and pleasure of knowing and feeling and being. Which are all Divine Dichotomies, which I have already explained as well. Because of this, S, that it then again orgasms or explodes (big bang) to start the cycle or expanding and contracting all over again. This is not unlike the bodily (tool for expression) act of sex in that it is moving back and forth. Its like a breathing of God's body. Thus, the new big bang or universe could be what you call a parallel universe.

I'm sick of typing now. Well, thanks for your theory and for reading my first post on the site. I think you'll find what I believe to be very similar to your theories.

Peace, Love, Unity, and Understanding my friends
The Raven
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Apr 29 2006, 02:51 AM) [snapback]1167784[/snapback]

Wow... I can`t belive I just read all that... eccspecialy since I have heard it before.

Interesting. Where have you heard this before?

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Okay, so is there a 5th dimension and if so, what is it ?

I'm not sure myself, honestly. As I explained the fourth dimension being time and its accordance to perception of an object, I would assume the fifth dimension is in a way, similar. The conclusion really waters down to what "type" of fifth dimensional object you are talking about. I can think of two examples, as of now:

Naturally Fifth: An object such as a five-dimensional cube which must be measured with an absolute minimum of five dimensions. Take a Hypercube or Tesseract, add in a dimension.

Defined Fifth: An object percieved and defined by humans to be measured with five dimensions. For example, a ship is plotting a course through space and is measuring the area through which it is passing. This can be measured in three dimensions, and then the travel/perception of the finishing point would be the fourth. Maybe the ship is also measuring how many asteroids are in their way. This could be a fifth dimension of their course. Although not literally a five-dimensional object and rather a three with an expected course, it is all the same measured five dimensionally.

Thank you for all of your responses so far -- I've really enjoyed hearing what you have to say. I'm glad it has made some sense to a lot of you; I'm still confused myself. However, it is still a developing theory, or rather a Hypothesis. thumbsup.gif
Immortal Norway
QUOTE(The Raven @ Apr 29 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]1168201[/snapback]

Interesting. Where have you heard this before?


Not shure, but the theory sounded familiar...
dindwyder
ok remember how u were talking about how the universes will spread out and will then collide... wat would happen in a parallel multiverse? would time keep going and the collision never happening? AHh thats so weird lol
jpatt
I really like and in some ways agree with the OP's ideas, as well as SandDune's - I see things in a similar fashion. Thumbs up for an excellent and detailed thread on something of USEFUL discussion!
Merreton
QUOTE(ImOne @ Apr 28 2006, 07:31 PM) [snapback]1167615[/snapback]

The way you describe parallel universe theory there would be so much creation that I can't really fathom it. Imagine just one universe with billions of entities involved in courses of probable action. We would need new universes not only to contain each entities probable courses, but every possible combination. In other words, just the one universe where I don't slip splits into trillions of universes for every possible combination of other people sneezing, or not sneezing at that moment. Then we need trillions times trillions where I slip 1/2 a second later. If this theory has any basis in reality the bulk of that reality must be non-physical in my opinion.


i've just noticed that this really remind me of the Dune series by Frank Herbert, particularly about the part where paul is granted the ability to see into the future, how his mind was transformed into a computer that calculated every possible outcome of every possible action that he or anyone else made. if im not mistaken it was something like he was navigating throgh threads of possible outcomes that made up the universe/multiverse, and would branch away as you look forward, but as it came close, the path would be impossibly small. Now that was some hard reading there and im sorry if i didnt make any sense.
SNAP
I think everyone is looking too hard for something that is right in front of your faces. Everyone knows the truth deep down inside, but instead of accepting it, they feel the need to look for a more complicated answer. They are afraid to accept that their existence is no more meaningful than that of a monkey, deer, or an ape, or a lion. Your brain is more developed, giving you abilities to do things that other animals cannot, giving the illusion that you are something special. You are just a complex biological system, and you WILL die one day. After you die, there is NOTHING. There is no heaven, no parallel universes, and most of all there is no reincarnation. Make sense? for those of you who are scratching your heads - GO TO SCHOOL! anyone who has basic knowledge of physics, chemistry, and biology can connect the dots and see that the idea of a soul, a god, or an afterlife is completely ignorant. So many people live their lives in denial, with false hope, with irrational and illogical superstitions that i would expect from a monkey, not a HUMAN! How about instead of wasting time creating absurd explanations for your existence, you make the most of every day that you have. I also suggest that everyone who reads this goes back to school, becuase if your in a forum talking about angels, gods, superheroes, witches, etc.... you are in desperate need of some 1+1's and some abc's.

SNAP
ImOne
Gee SNAP, thanks for dropping in.

Your objective reality is a little out of kilter. Many people that believed as you do have grown to understand that the simple explantions fail to account for certain phenomena. There is much to be discovered.
SNAP
Which Phenomena?
Wombat
@The Raven

This sounds like a theory suggested by some French twins a few years ago, with something about two clashing sheets or something.

I cannot really comment about it as I don't have enough knowledge about this sort of thing, but I can say that once you reach this far into the creation of everything, any theory seems absurd. In fact it has not yet been clarified if the French twins' theory is pure genious, insane (in the literal sense) or just a hoax.

Oh well, good luck with that.
The Raven
I realize the insanity of this theory entirely, so I was reluctant to post it. However, since I have posted it, it has gotten the rambling thing out of my mind for good. Fine by me.

SNAP, you have made a complete mockery of yourself. When you have something worthy, factual, enlightening or intelligent to add to the thread, come back and share it. However, if you are intent on acting like a child denied the candy that grants you the limelight, your posts are completely meaningless. If you have the initiative and the imagination to create a theory like mine, kudos to you. If you are going to sit on your butt in front of a computer and rant "truth" to us, go somewhere else. Have a nice day.
SandDunePsychonaut
QUOTE(The Raven @ Apr 28 2006, 05:42 PM) [snapback]1167476[/snapback]

Infinite Matrix Singularity Theory [I.M.S Theory]


Parallel universes exist in an infinite, unlimited amount. In our world perceived generally in three dimensions, parallel universes are created at an alarming rate. Action, reaction, and consequence conceive such things. When you slip and fall, failing to catch yourself, you had the chance of not falling. At that exact moment, a parallel universe or reality is created in which everything is identical, however you do not fall. From their you as a person exist multiple times in multiple universes, and the rest of your life is unpredictable and can take any course. Whenever there is an action, any other possible outcome is instantly generated in the parallel.



Could it not be that the present universe in just like a computer/video game in which every possible action is pre-programmed? Your choices in the game could affect the course of the game but it will remain the same game nonetheless. This is not to say the universe is a cosmic game in which you could win or lose just an example.
The Raven
QUOTE(SandDunePsychonaut @ May 25 2006, 09:57 AM) [snapback]1204742[/snapback]

Could it not be that the present universe in just like a computer/video game in which every possible action is pre-programmed? Your choices in the game could affect the course of the game but it will remain the same game nonetheless. This is not to say the universe is a cosmic game in which you could win or lose just an example.


Yes, great example! Infinite possibility seems to be the most reasonable possibility.
Caana
QUOTE(The Raven @ Apr 28 2006, 11:42 PM) [snapback]1167476[/snapback]

Infinite Matrix Singularity Theory [I.M.S Theory]

For quite some time now I've had a theory brewing in my head. It can be considered more of a hypothesis since it has little or no scientific evidence to back it up. Logic, reasoning, and oddities seem to back it up, though. I've finally decided to compile the core structure of this absurd theory and, after drawing some diagrams, post it on UM.

I don't expect you to fully comprehend the theory, because in reality I don't fully understand it myself. It may sound absurd, but through it I believe it proposes a way the dimensions are connected. Using this interconnectedness, it then goes on to offer a beginning of an explanation to the well recognized duality of Yin and Yang, and further opposing forces such as the triality I have recognized in the third dimension. It's a long read, but I'd love for you to give me any feedback you've got.

The Theory

First of all, I am a strong enemy to the currently accepted scientific theory of the Big Bang. I do not believe in a beginning nor an end to time or the universe. I believe in Eternity, that is there is no end or beginning. The Big Bang was simply a rebirth. I also believe that the 4th-dimension is time. I will go on to elaborate on each of these concepts. I tell them now so you know my basic belief that has gone into this theory.

Creation: Time is like a mathematical equation. If you've had an education past the sixth grade, you'll probably be aware of repeating decimals. In a sense, this is the representation of time I have chosen. A repeating although for the most part, unpredictable, varying, and infinitely chaotic singularity.

Parallel universes exist in an infinite, unlimited amount. In our world perceived generally in three dimensions, parallel universes are created at an alarming rate. Action, reaction, and consequence conceive such things. When you slip and fall, failing to catch yourself, you had the chance of not falling. At that exact moment, a parallel universe or reality is created in which everything is identical, however you do not fall. From their you as a person exist multiple times in multiple universes, and the rest of your life is unpredictable and can take any course. Whenever there is an action, any other possible outcome is instantly generated in the parallel.

In relation to time, time is the antithetical absolute. That is, "Absolutes Absolutely Do Not Exist". However, because parallel universes exist, time is sometimes an absolute and sometimes has an end, or a beginning. When time ends in X universe, that universe instantly stops and progresses no further.

Time between creation and death is the time it takes for the two "rifts" to collide. The two interdependent rifts that create our reality are the universe we know, and the antithesis to our universe. This could possibly be the astral or another, non-material plane in which the laws of physics and everything we know does not apply; like a dark veil. Starting from the most recent "Big Bang", these veils coexist [Both being universes] beside one another, and they are like mirrors. This is why it is once again connected to possibly the astral plane, it being the 2nd universe. These two bodies are so close together that they are an infinitesimal distance apart. Eventually, as they expand as time passes [Going both directions, into the past and into the future, not just the linear view of "Time goes forward,] the galaxies and content inside the universe become so far apart that it is a great darkness. No stars would be seen as the galaxies are so far away that light cannot reach the next galaxy or celestial body. At this time, it is probably the veil between the two universes that coexist is breached. That is, the two universes collide.

Upon this collision, The Big Bang takes place. However, the Big Bang is not creation. It is simply recreation and assembly of matter that already exists and will exist. Both universes explode from this single point, the Singularity, as well as every parallel universe attached to the two core universes. This "Restarts" time, as it could be seen the two arrows of time [One going forward in time, one going back] have collided. Things in the past still "Happened", however every single trace in every single universe of the multiverse was beautifully eliminated; like the wiping of a hard drive. The data there was still there, but now it is overwritten with blankness ready to expand.

From this singularity that is the heart of the Big Bang, matter is cast out and the two coexisting universes begin expansion once again. It is probable the Big Bang takes place when they collide, because two physical bodies of such mass would spawn an incomprehensible amount of destruction. At this time, as well, the creation of parallel universes once again begins as the reality takes form again. Free will exists, so this reality will be different from the previous one. In partnership with parallel universes, once again another infinite amount of possibility is created. These all come from one point, the remnants of the two universes. Before we get too far, I must first say it is logical to believe that the destruction of these universes, the degeneration, occurs at the same speed the creation did. This is the first step at creating balance, which is seen in nature.

user posted image
This diagram is a flower like shape as the multiverse once again blooms from S, the Singularity. It is symmetrical because there is balance, that is things are being created at an equal although limitless and unpredictable, incomprehensible rate.

user posted image
This diagram shows creation as well. S stands for the singularity exploding in every direction. The triangles are shown opposing each other to stand for the two universes coexisting, A and B. Note that these universes, although not shown, can and do exist in every single direction in every possible manner. R in the diagram stands for Infinite Ray, which expand the lines of the triangles into infinity. Think of Triangle A as Positive, and Triangle B as negative. It is written this way because this is how reality is perceived in two dimensions. The spectrum of colors and the hues of purple stand for the variety of it all.

Dimensions and how they relate:

Many people confuse what a dimension is -- some think it is a plane of existence, or a universe. In reality, however, a dimension is a principal measurement required to comprehend or perceive a material or non-material object. For example, a cube is 3D. To measure and perceive it, we must have Height, Width, and Depth. Three dimensions. A square drawn on a sheet of paper is perceived three dimensionally because we perceive, generally, three dimensions, however to measure the simplest form of the square itself, we simply need two dimensions: Length, Width. The first dimension is Line, and we only need length. The Zero Dimension is point; a whole. It requires no measurement as it cannot be measured by any means.

The 4th dimension is time. We perceive time as it passes, not by our eyes, so to speak. A hypercube, being a 4-dimensional cube, must be measured with four dimensions: Width, Height, Depth, Time. The Time measurement comes into place when we measure the time it takes for the object to imprint itself into our individual time-line and is perceived. For example, the stars give off light that was created billions of years ago. We perceive it now. Each time we look up at the stars, we are creating new measurements of time that can be mapped as hypercubes. The three three-dimensional measurements can tell us how materially far we are from the source, but the fourth measurement of time will tell us how and when it is perceived. Thus the fourth dimension.

Dimensions are as limitless as numbers, however perceiving higher than the fourth becomes more and more difficult; in detail, that is. The number of dimensions required to measure the object is all we need to know about "Dimension", referring to the combination of three measurements in the Third Dimension, so to say.

From the reoccuring singularity, the content of the dimensions [Compiled number of measurements required to perceive the object or subject] grows and becomes more and more radical. Notice the below waveform graph, using the wave [Also relating to String Theory] to explain how existence is cast out from the singularity. As it becomes hotter, the red increases, showing that the higher dimension perceived, the more information contained.
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The Opposing Forces of the Universe:

As I have briefly introduced, you should now be clear that according to this theory there is an opposing force, a balance, to everything. Newton's laws classify this very effectively.

All of you have probably heard of Yin-Yang, which is a duality represented in Eastern Philosophy as the circle with two equal, opposite forces inside of it. Night:Day, Good:Evil, Dark:Light, White:Black, Male:Female. The dualities or opposing forces, equal opposites, could be listed all day. Although this is a grand way to describe our universe, it is the two dimensional way to describe it. What Yin Yang does not explain, this theory should.

There are two principal parts or measurements required to measure a two dimensional shape. Length, width. These are opposites, and fit the Yin Yang equation. This is a duality, an opposition of two. To make the same balance equation in the third dimension, you must have a Triality. Because there are three principal parts or measurements of three dimensional things, there must be three principal parts to this equation as well. This could be pictured as a "Yin Yang", but instead with three equal parts of the circle. White, Black, and Grey. Grey is not the opposite of white or black, but the combination. As the dimensions go up, so do the parts required for this greater "Yin Yang." White, Black & Shades of Grey. A spectrum of balance.

Three dimensional things all fit this figure acting as our Three-Dimensional "Yin Yang" which I will call "Trinity." For example, three dimensional things in reality include Birth:Life:Death, Black:Grey:White, Red:Yellow:Blue, Violet:Green:Orange, Up:Down:Middle. The list goes on and on, and surprisingly works for seemingly all things. If you were doing this 4-dimensionally, you would simply break things down into the 4 principal parts required.

The Limit to Perception
Because we are generally three dimensional creatures, we can only perceive with our senses, up to a certain amount. I am still working on this, but existing in the third dimension, it is likely we are able to comprehend an object or subject of any amount of dimensions, although only perceive one up to 27 dimensions. 3 x 3 x 3 = 27. If we were in the 27th dimension, we could percieve an object or subject with the dimensions from the equation 27 x 27 x 27...until 27 has been multiplied by itself 27 times; 27 to the 27th power.

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And so goes the introduction to this absurd theory. I'll answer any questions you have, but this is all I can write for now. Post your feedback and I'll respond. I look forward to it.


If you don't mind I would like to discuss your theory with you in more depth at a later time, as some of what you say makes sense to me. I could'nt have come up with what you have and need some guidance with it, as it is interesting. Here's a piece of my thought though. to amuse you. What if the universe is based on time moving in all direction's at the same time in all dimensions. The dimensions you know and the dimensions postulized by others. Add further this. That time really does not exist and that all universes of all dimensions occupy the same space and they are constently repeating themselves at different speed's within the same framework. A bit to chew on I know, but you have the math for it and I don't. Thanks
Caana
QUOTE(SNAP @ May 22 2006, 03:31 AM) [snapback]1200084[/snapback]

I think everyone is looking too hard for something that is right in front of your faces. Everyone knows the truth deep down inside, but instead of accepting it, they feel the need to look for a more complicated answer. They are afraid to accept that their existence is no more meaningful than that of a monkey, deer, or an ape, or a lion. Your brain is more developed, giving you abilities to do things that other animals cannot, giving the illusion that you are something special. You are just a complex biological system, and you WILL die one day. After you die, there is NOTHING. There is no heaven, no parallel universes, and most of all there is no reincarnation. Make sense? for those of you who are scratching your heads - GO TO SCHOOL! anyone who has basic knowledge of physics, chemistry, and biology can connect the dots and see that the idea of a soul, a god, or an afterlife is completely ignorant. So many people live their lives in denial, with false hope, with irrational and illogical superstitions that i would expect from a monkey, not a HUMAN! How about instead of wasting time creating absurd explanations for your existence, you make the most of every day that you have. I also suggest that everyone who reads this goes back to school, becuase if your in a forum talking about angels, gods, superheroes, witches, etc.... you are in desperate need of some 1+1's and some abc's.

SNAP


I agree that there is no heaven or reincarnation and that you are body, mind and voice and when any part of that die's you are dead. After the etc...I need to ask if you believe U.F.O.s are real, do you think so?
The Raven
QUOTE(Caana @ Jun 2 2006, 03:42 PM) [snapback]1215324[/snapback]

If you don't mind I would like to discuss your theory with you in more depth at a later time, as some of what you say makes sense to me. I could'nt have come up with what you have and need some guidance with it, as it is interesting. Here's a piece of my thought though. to amuse you. What if the universe is based on time moving in all direction's at the same time in all dimensions. The dimensions you know and the dimensions postulized by others. Add further this. That time really does not exist and that all universes of all dimensions occupy the same space and they are constently repeating themselves at different speed's within the same framework. A bit to chew on I know, but you have the math for it and I don't. Thanks


Sure, you can contact me any way you like -- the methods that you are able to use are in my profile.

On the topic of time that you are referring to, I don't really have the math to do it, just the ambition and the crazy thought patterns. Although I do understand math quite easily, I don't have a clue how to calculate what you're talking about here. Although you seem to define time as this, and say that time essentially does not exist, the process in which you define time would require time to pass. unsure.gif
chinitial
Thanks God the scientists do have a mind in the opposite way of SNAP thinking. They invented microscopes not thinking in the absurd idea invisible microscopic entities could be dwelling somewhere and telescopes and scanners, cellular mobiles in Star Trek, and now we are teletransporting photons.
Raven, the distance from here to...let's say 5 blocks away is one in terms of space according to our own perspective. Yet, for a frog jumping the same distance, an ant, a butterfly or a virus the measurement will be measured in their respective points of view. If I record the history of the universe in a video tape, let's say about 2 hours of a film, that's only an average time but it depends on the one who has the remote control to determine how long in terms of time it will take, if he presses pause-stop-forward-rewind-slow motion, etc. In terms of space the tape can be measured equally having X number of meters. If somebody asks how many angels can fit in the head of a needle, science has already answered that: as many as they can fit in Planck dimension which is trillion times smaller than a proton. Real scientists are usually modest while imbecil amateurs like SNAP come here as if they know a minimum detail about the science they are preaching about. Michiu Kaku, for example, was humble enough to admit nor he or his physicist colleagues do have a clue why on earth certain numbers like 4 or 10 fit like a glove in the superstring theory, so this is mathematical physics, part of science some ignorant people know nothing about.
The problem is that distance you are adding to measure can only be accepted in terms of our human perspective as we are measuring the rotation of our planet and the rest of planets but according to our perspective because we dwell here on earth. Nobody is in the center of the expanded universe to seethe things in better angle. It's like remaining in a hidden corner of the skydome in Toronto with a micro camera and thinking that we can see correctly the baseball game. That ridiculus thing is what happens with our scientific measurement. They sent satelites or probes or use Hubble and think the images we see represents accurately the whole universe. The question is: if science doesn't know what are gravitons, if we're gonna end up in Big Freeze, Big Bang, Big Dip or if there was a kabbalah God's tsimtsum Big Crunch instead of Universe's Big Crunch before the -eventual- Big Bang with so many holes in the theory, if we don't know if the expansion is a mere illusion caused because of the curvature of the universe, trying to explain the dichotomy of Yin Yang in hypothetical multiple explosive cosmos is just as etheric as imagining if neutrinos do have enough mass to shrink the eventual cosmos we're dwelling in...like intelligent virus living on balls floating in a huge swimming pool covered with black liquid, a pool that maybe has crystal borders reflecting some parts and giving the impression is bigger than it is actually, or a pool-cosmos with the shape of a saddle, a trumpet, bubble, onion and many ideas given by our experts "physicists" and "cosmologists". All ego thing.
Human mind is somehting that make meak the neurophysiologists. They say is holographic connected with holographic universe. If that's the case, there's a possibility your mind understood somehow something about the Great Delusion or maybe not so....
As it happens in a film with characters recorded in the each frame of celluloid film, you and I don't really exist...only the one who has the thought of the universe and the complicated X number of chess games. Got it?
The Raven
Eye-opening post Chinitail, thank you for taking my premature and rather absurd theory very seriously and in a very mature fashion. What SNAP is implying is similar to a "New Age" way of thinking, followed by the utter molestation of something similar to anamnesis, which he most likely does not understand in the first place. Those who claim to "know" and that the great thinkers of our time, our scientists, must "go back to school" are fooling themselves into a pit, attempting to hide their own ignorance. Live by the quote, "I only know the fact of my own ignorance." Tell me who said it and I'll have even more respect for you.

I'm starting to get away from the belief in duality and triality, because it's just making everything fit into your theory instead of your theory fitting into everything. Don't force the world into your definition, define the world. That is what I'm coming to have more faith in. Sometime I'll collect more of my ideas and update IMS theory. In the mean time, anyone can contact me through the ways listed in my profile or this thread -- I would love to discuss my theory more!
SandDunePsychonaut
QUOTE(The Raven @ Jun 19 2006, 04:43 PM) [snapback]1237891[/snapback]

Eye-opening post Chinitail, thank you for taking my premature and rather absurd theory very seriously and in a very mature fashion. What SNAP is implying is similar to a "New Age" way of thinking, followed by the utter molestation of something similar to anamnesis, which he most likely does not understand in the first place. Those who claim to "know" and that the great thinkers of our time, our scientists, must "go back to school" are fooling themselves into a pit, attempting to hide their own ignorance. Live by the quote, "I only know the fact of my own ignorance." Tell me who said it and I'll have even more respect for you.

I'm starting to get away from the belief in duality and triality, because it's just making everything fit into your theory instead of your theory fitting into everything. Don't force the world into your definition, define the world. That is what I'm coming to have more faith in. Sometime I'll collect more of my ideas and update IMS theory. In the mean time, anyone can contact me through the ways listed in my profile or this thread -- I would love to discuss my theory more!


Yup, there is no meaning of life, and that's the greatest gift...to make of it what you may please.
Matches
I completely agree with all of the post, my Raven. *ruffles feathers*, or at least all but the last part, which I didn't completely understand.

On the subject of parallel universes:

For every movement of the smallest air molecule, there is a different reality. There's even a reality out there where Snap has half a mind to not try to come up with something so stupid and sell it to us.

What separates these realities is chance and probability. In a microcosm, look at a game of D&D. (Yes, leave it to a nerd like me to think of D&D.)

In the game, the roll of a die or a set of dice may decide your character's fate. You have an almost equal chance of the die rolling to each of the numbers. I say almost because the die may wear differently over time on some corners, the way it is rolled, etc.

Say this die is rolled unobserved, under a cup or something of the sort. This die is in one instance at all possible places under the cup for it to fall, and displaying all possible numbers as the one rolled, in theory. Reality is like a wavelength, but becomes 'solid' material when observed.

Take the Schrödinger's Cat theory for example. A cat is placed in a box with a vial of poison and a rig that will smash the vial if the radioactive decay of a material makes a meter go up to a certain point. While the cat is unobserved, it is both alive and dead at the same time, because the many realities haven't yet split off. When the cat is observed, we take our reality, like taking one road of many at a place where paths split.

The same goes for the world around you. Before you turn around, the world is just free-floating energy, but we create the world around us by observing, making things seem solid.

If this is confusing, don't worry. It confused me at first too when I was reading these books last year during library club at the high school. Ask if there's anything you don't understand.
Merreton
QUOTE(Morian @ Jun 20 2006, 01:31 PM) [snapback]1239169[/snapback]

I completely agree with all of the post, my Raven. *ruffles feathers*, or at least all but the last part, which I didn't completely understand.

On the subject of parallel universes:

For every movement of the smallest air molecule, there is a different reality. There's even a reality out there where Snap has half a mind to not try to come up with something so stupid and sell it to us.

What separates these realities is chance and probability. In a microcosm, look at a game of D&D. (Yes, leave it to a nerd like me to think of D&D.)

In the game, the roll of a die or a set of dice may decide your character's fate. You have an almost equal chance of the die rolling to each of the numbers. I say almost because the die may wear differently over time on some corners, the way it is rolled, etc.

Say this die is rolled unobserved, under a cup or something of the sort. This die is in one instance at all possible places under the cup for it to fall, and displaying all possible numbers as the one rolled, in theory. Reality is like a wavelength, but becomes 'solid' material when observed.

Take the Schrödinger's Cat theory for example. A cat is placed in a box with a vial of poison and a rig that will smash the vial if the radioactive decay of a material makes a meter go up to a certain point. While the cat is unobserved, it is both alive and dead at the same time, because the many realities haven't yet split off. When the cat is observed, we take our reality, like taking one road of many at a place where paths split.

The same goes for the world around you. Before you turn around, the world is just free-floating energy, but we create the world around us by observing, making things seem solid.

If this is confusing, don't worry. It confused me at first too when I was reading these books last year during library club at the high school. Ask if there's anything you don't understand.


True, but in an infinitely fluctuating universe we can only reley on our senses which are also fluctuating how are we to say that we are creating our reality?
The Raven
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The Limit to Perception
Because we are generally three dimensional creatures, we can only perceive with our senses, up to a certain amount. I am still working on this, but existing in the third dimension, it is likely we are able to comprehend an object or subject of any amount of dimensions, although only perceive one up to 27 dimensions. 3 x 3 x 3 = 27. If we were in the 27th dimension, we could percieve an object or subject with the dimensions from the equation 27 x 27 x 27...until 27 has been multiplied by itself 27 times; 27 to the 27th power.

This part of my theory can now be totally scrapped. I don't know what I was thinking. However, to explain this flawed logic, my theory was that by multiplying the dimension by the power of itelf (X^X) you would therefore be able to measure interconnectedness. For example, that 3^3 = 27 would that mean the third dimension is directly or primarily linked to the dimensions up to the 27th, in a sense allowing us to perceive and comprehend dimensions up to the 27th, being 3-dimensional creatures. The only reason I ever thought of this crazy idea was because M Theory used a similar number and I found the coincidence to be shocking.

Regardless 3-dimensional objects can be bloomed into an object of many other dimensions by measuring it with measurements that do not neccesarily constitute need as a 3-dimensional object. For example, an example of how a naturally 3-dimensional object can gain a 4th dimension, which is in IMS theory assumed to be time, is by perception. The perception of the object is in a sense a dimension, such as when you look at the sun your eyes are picking up on the object and tracing an invisible route in line with the path of your senses, your eyes seeing the light, your body feeling the warmth. Because similar connections can be made with 3-dimensional objects and thus making it 4d or Xd, the whole idea to a limit to perception is gone.

I'm still confused in all of this jumble, but feel free to keep adding and commenting.
8THCHAKRA
QUOTE(The Raven @ Jun 22 2006, 01:33 AM) [snapback]1241199[/snapback]

This part of my theory can now be totally scrapped. I don't know what I was thinking. However, to explain this flawed logic, my theory was that by multiplying the dimension by the power of itelf (X^X) you would therefore be able to measure interconnectedness. For example, that 3^3 = 27 would that mean the third dimension is directly or primarily linked to the dimensions up to the 27th, in a sense allowing us to perceive and comprehend dimensions up to the 27th, being 3-dimensional creatures. The only reason I ever thought of this crazy idea was because M Theory used a similar number and I found the coincidence to be shocking.

Regardless 3-dimensional objects can be bloomed into an object of many other dimensions by measuring it with measurements that do not neccesarily constitute need as a 3-dimensional object. For example, an example of how a naturally 3-dimensional object can gain a 4th dimension, which is in IMS theory assumed to be time, is by perception. The perception of the object is in a sense a dimension, such as when you look at the sun your eyes are picking up on the object and tracing an invisible route in line with the path of your senses, your eyes seeing the light, your body feeling the warmth. Because similar connections can be made with 3-dimensional objects and thus making it 4d or Xd, the whole idea to a limit to perception is gone.

I'm still confused in all of this jumble, but feel free to keep adding and commenting.








What many of you SEEM to fail to realize is that physical dimensions are a manifestation of the mind and that by using your minds logic you are further diluting the truth of the Tao.
I have gone from being someone who "thinks to understand" as Socrates did, to one who has chosen to exist but thinks for sheer enjoyment. I may consider myself a sophist who lives to think rather than thinks to live. I myself as being a thinker sees these virtual dimensions as being no less real than the ones we can percieve because by thinking we are perceiving them. On the other hand we are part of the universe and by looking at the universe through a spotlight concioussness we are decieving ourselves into believing that are personality is our true identity. My point is that we really can't ever know, as we are one.

vladdimpailer
this sounds much like a theory i had a while back but didn't have the patience to type all that out, something like this theory could get a NOBEL prize for science if you could get it published and all
Startraveler
There are a few analogs of your ideas in theoretical physics of which you may or may not be aware.

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Parallel universes exist in an infinite, unlimited amount. In our world perceived generally in three dimensions, parallel universes are created at an alarming rate. Action, reaction, and consequence conceive such things. When you slip and fall, failing to catch yourself, you had the chance of not falling...


Of course this is Hugh Everett's interpretation of quantum mechanics. All probabilities are realized in different universes when the state vector is reduced.

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Time between creation and death is the time it takes for the two "rifts" to collide. The two interdependent rifts that create our reality are the universe we know, and the antithesis to our universe...


This is similar to Steinhardt and Turok's ekpyrotic model in which the big bang is caused by "the collision of two three-dimensional worlds moving along a hidden, extra dimension. The two three-dimensional worlds collide and 'stick,' the kinetic energy in the collision is converted the quarks, electrons, photons, etc., that are confined to move along three dimensions. " That doesn't really deal with dualities or necessarily the "antithesis to our universe" but it's a similar concept nonetheless.

Of course, these particular parallel worlds aren't the same sort of parallel universes as those from Everett's interpretation. Anyway, just wanted to throw that in.
explorer
If our infinite universe and all of it's space-energy possibilities create all other possible Universes, would not all the possibilities of those other Universes create all other possible Universes too? We'd end up with infinite duplication of all possible universes! I can't say it's impossible!

I think Rene Descartes postulated that if the Universe is infinite then there would be infinite stars, therefore infinite light and no darkness. But we have darkness, hence the universe is finite. A conditional logic if I'm repeating it correctly.

I prefer to think that space is infinite and matter is finite. Some suggest the big bang was a cancelling out of matter and anti-matter (duality again) and what's left over is the total amount of matter/energy in the universe.

Observations in the last decade suggest that the Universe is expanding at an accelerating rate, because the redshift from distant supernovae is not as strong as expected. Link. At an extreme, this implies that eventually the light from the farthest flung stars will not be able to reach Earth, or anywhere, because space will be expanding too quickly for light to travel through it. Can space travel at faster than light speed? Is space a form of dark light, the most negative energy? Or is science totally wrong in it's observations and we are back on square zero. Maybe we are just theorising ourselves and dreaming the Universe?

If the expansion of space takes the galaxies with it and reduces the gravitational attraction between interacting galaxies, perhaps we'll end up with a starless sky. It may also mean an open universe where black holes do not have the power to suck galaxies inside and do not eventually eat the universe, then each other and then reform the original singularity leading to...another Big Bang? So maybe the Universe is infinite and within it infinite possibilites are...possible.

So great theory Raven. Keep up the Good Work.
donrobison
What an interesting bit of supersticious-dogma your concocted. The real power of any model or theory lies in its ability to predict and agree with experimentation. By this definition you theory is completely impotent.
explorer

Superstitious maybe, but dogma? Dogma is what you are exhibiting. So experiments that would satisfy peer reviewed journals of the existence of something like Milewski's Superlight may not yet have arrived. But first must come the theory, based on previous observation, experiment and postulation. Theory does not by necessity need to fit what is already experimentally confirmed as acceptable to existing theories, although some would prefer that it is. We would have been long stuck in an ice age of discovery if it did.

"Radio has no future. Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. X-rays will prove to be a hoax." - English scientist William Thomson, Lord Kelvin, 1899

Be cautious with definition, but not closed.


The Raven
QUOTE(donrobison @ Jul 4 2006, 02:42 PM) [snapback]1257296[/snapback]

What an interesting bit of supersticious-dogma your concocted. The real power of any model or theory lies in its ability to predict and agree with experimentation. By this definition you theory is completely impotent.


First of all, thank you for your posts Explorer and Startraveler, you've added a good bit to this thread that I was meaning to get out. My idea about the two universes and the rift is indeed from a theory I have heard, however I'm starting to doubt it and feel the need to eventually expand upon it.

To donrobinson, I am not a scientist, nor am I old enough to even go to a university. If I was able to and looking to enter the field of science it may be another story. However, IMS theory is just that -- a theory. A hypothesis, really, based on noted similarities and patterns between natural law, expanded on to possibly encompass what we cannot yet see. If I was able to test some of the things in IMS theory, I would, but I am not a titled scientist, I have no funding, and I have no scientists to work with me. Therefore I'll keep expanding on this theory and stick to reading about other scientific theories to tickle my fancy. If you would like to give me the resources and time to begin testing IMS theory through experiment, go right ahead.
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