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Lizard King
Yeah. A little while back, my father told me a story. He said that one night about...I don't know, maybe 20 to 25 years ago, he had a strange experience while pulling into a parking lot somewhere. He can't quite remember where it was, he said that wasn't important at the time, he just wanted to get the hell out of there. He said that the sun had just set and he pulled into this parking lot. As he did this there was a man walking through it that had been flashed in the eyes with the headlights from my fathers vehicle. When this happen, the man's eyes glared a blood red like an animal's eyes would. My dad just kept on going and didn't look back. Now, I know that there can be some possibilities to this. Maybe the guy had on contacts that would create this sort of reaction. Or maybe it was something else. I know for sure that my dad had seen what he had said he saw, he doesn't usually like talking about that sort of stuff, but he is damn serious when he does. Have any of you got any info on this sort of thing? Any experiences? To hear this story from my father, it made my skin crawl. The only thing I can think of that would relate to this would be the 'red eye' occurence from the flash of a camera.
Henge_Witch
Yeah sounds like camera effect, the light shining on the back of the retina reflects the blood in the eye, or maybe he'd been on the booze all night and just generally looked like sh*t LOL
Taka
^^^ Agreed. My eyes appear red in every picture taken of me.
Every. Picture. (But I've not seen a person standing in a set of headlights, so I don't know if the effect would be the same.)

Really ruins the moment. disgust.gif

That's...really all I have to say.
The possibility of it being a person is just too great, to go off and call it some sort of demon-child. wink2.gif
srcinc
grin2.gif I dunno, it could have actually been something like a vampire or demon. I know alot of people say they doan exist and all that, but I tend to believe they do. Otherwise where would all the stories have come from. Anyway, it could have jus been nothing, but it could have been something. There really is no sure way of knowing.

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Lizard King
Yeah, well, it wasn't a camera flash because my dad wasn't taking pictures of the dude. His headlights reflected a red glare off of the persons eyes just like it would to a cat or dog. Something is really out there. My father would not tell this story to me if it wasn't 100% true.
earthchick
There is one possibility to think of......the man your father saw may have been blind with prosthetic glass eyes. Some glass eyes, especially the very well-made, realistic-looking ones, are quite retroreflective. It is possible that glass eyes made to look like brown eyes may reflect a reddish colour in a car's headlights.

A remote possibility, but a possibility just the same.
srcinc
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Yeah, well, it wasn't a camera flash because my dad wasn't taking pictures of the dude. His headlights reflected a red glare off of the persons eyes just like it would to a cat or dog. Something is really out there. My father would not tell this story to me if it wasn't 100% true.


I believe it was something...as I said before maybe a Vampire or a Demon.


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Lizard King
QUOTE(earthchick @ May 2 2006, 10:54 PM) [snapback]1172546[/snapback]

There is one possibility to think of......the man your father saw may have been blind with prosthetic glass eyes. Some glass eyes, especially the very well-made, realistic-looking ones, are quite retroreflective. It is possible that glass eyes made to look like brown eyes may reflect a reddish colour in a car's headlights.

A remote possibility, but a possibility just the same.



How can that be possible? Both his eyes lit up. If they were fake eyes, that means he wouldnt be able to see at all, therefore how would he be walking alone in a parkinglot at night?
Shadow_Wolf
QUOTE(Lizard King @ May 3 2006, 08:54 PM) [snapback]1173233[/snapback]

How can that be possible? Both his eyes lit up. If they were fake eyes, that means he wouldnt be able to see at all, therefore how would he be walking alone in a parkinglot at night?

At the risk of being politically incorrect... if he had two glass eyes he wouldn't know if it was night or day to go wandering round a parking lot...

Must confess I've never noticed car headlights cause red-eye, I don't think the human eye has enough roads to reflect back the relatively dim light (compared to a camera flash). I've certainly seen yellow/green eye with canids/felines respectively from a torch-beam.
earthchick
QUOTE(Lizard King @ May 3 2006, 04:54 PM) [snapback]1173233[/snapback]

How can that be possible? Both his eyes lit up. If they were fake eyes, that means he wouldnt be able to see at all, therefore how would he be walking alone in a parkinglot at night?



LOL. It's always night time for a blind person.
mr. E
I don't know about anyone else, but i've only ever seen cats, dogs, and human eyes reflect green or yellow, not red. Sure, they sometimes reflect red in photographs, but i don't think there was that much direct light from the dad's headlights. The whole "reflected light off the eyes" explanation doesn't sit well with me.
rosedreamer33
As a child my grandpap had a pig and his eyes would shine red when we used a flash light.
Lizard King
QUOTE(Shadow_Wolf @ May 3 2006, 02:16 PM) [snapback]1173404[/snapback]

At the risk of being politically incorrect... if he had two glass eyes he wouldn't know if it was night or day to go wandering round a parking lot...

Must confess I've never noticed car headlights cause red-eye, I don't think the human eye has enough roads to reflect back the relatively dim light (compared to a camera flash). I've certainly seen yellow/green eye with canids/felines respectively from a torch-beam.



QUOTE(mr. E @ May 3 2006, 07:42 PM) [snapback]1173834[/snapback]

I don't know about anyone else, but i've only ever seen cats, dogs, and human eyes reflect green or yellow, not red. Sure, they sometimes reflect red in photographs, but i don't think there was that much direct light from the dad's headlights. The whole "reflected light off the eyes" explanation doesn't sit well with me.


Thank you for repeating what I had just said. Doesnt matter if it is night or day, if he had 2 glass eyes, he wouldnt be where he was. The car lights were obviously enough to reflect a red glare, because that is damn well what happend. It's the point to this incident. It happend. Not saying its an 'explanation' or anything.
earthchick
QUOTE(Lizard King @ May 4 2006, 06:10 AM) [snapback]1174019[/snapback]

Thank you for repeating what I had just said. Doesnt matter if it is night or day, if he had 2 glass eyes, he wouldnt be where he was. The car lights were obviously enough to reflect a red glare, because that is damn well what happend. It's the point to this incident. It happend. Not saying its an 'explanation' or anything.



I think it's safe to assume you don't know many blind people. I know a couple of blind people (they are actually husband and wife) who can and do go just about anywhere by themselves without help. The husband has 2 glass eyes, which is what made me think of that as a possibility. It takes training and practice but the blind can be quite self-sufficient. In any case I had said the glass eyes were a remote possibility.


The human eye also has a fair amount of retroreflection, which is why red-eye happens in photos. I can't see why car headlights couldn't have the same effect as a camera flash under just the right conditions, i.e. angle of the headlights to the eyes, etc.

I would never rule out the possibility of it having been some sort of supernatural being, but I think it makes sense to look at more ordinary possibilities first.
eden grange
maybe he was "seeing red" because he was angry? when you are so angry the reason you see red is because tiny blood vessels in your eyes pop and redden the eye.
Lizard King
QUOTE(earthchick @ May 4 2006, 05:08 AM) [snapback]1174112[/snapback]

I think it's safe to assume you don't know many blind people. I know a couple of blind people (they are actually husband and wife) who can and do go just about anywhere by themselves without help. The husband has 2 glass eyes, which is what made me think of that as a possibility. It takes training and practice but the blind can be quite self-sufficient. In any case I had said the glass eyes were a remote possibility.
The human eye also has a fair amount of retroreflection, which is why red-eye happens in photos. I can't see why car headlights couldn't have the same effect as a camera flash under just the right conditions, i.e. angle of the headlights to the eyes, etc.

I would never rule out the possibility of it having been some sort of supernatural being, but I think it makes sense to look at more ordinary possibilities first.


That could be it. I'm going to ask him more about it. Maybe he'll remember something else.
^SolidSnake^
Woah that's really interesting, did your dad getting any weird feelings when he saw this guy?
Lizard King
QUOTE(^SolidSnake^ @ May 4 2006, 02:09 PM) [snapback]1174728[/snapback]

Woah that's really interesting, did your dad getting any weird feelings when he saw this guy?



I don't remember asking him. I'm sure he felt that he needed to get the hell out of there. I'll have to ask him again, later.
mars1102
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I would never rule out the possibility of it having been some sort of supernatural being, but I think it makes sense to look at more ordinary possibilities first.


yeah the only supernatural explanation i can think of would be a mothman...other than that the guy was probalby baked out of his brain and his eyes were bloodshot.
Reincarnated
camera flashes make your eyes red in pictures. a light shining into human eyes such as headlights would not produce red glowing eyes. whatever it was, it wasn't human and if it had human shape, it sounds like a bigfoot sighting which is what i believe it was. and MANY i repeat MANY people who have had encounters say they had a feeling of terror, dread or the need to get the hell out of there even before they spotted the creature with their own eyes. the glowing eyes thing is also common, the most reported color is red.
Lizard King
QUOTE(mars1102 @ May 7 2006, 12:53 PM) [snapback]1178361[/snapback]

yeah the only supernatural explanation i can think of would be a mothman...other than that the guy was probalby baked out of his brain and his eyes were bloodshot.



QUOTE(Reincarnated @ May 7 2006, 12:58 PM) [snapback]1178374[/snapback]

camera flashes make your eyes red in pictures. a light shining into human eyes such as headlights would not produce red glowing eyes. whatever it was, it wasn't human and if it had human shape, it sounds like a bigfoot sighting which is what i believe it was. and MANY i repeat MANY people who have had encounters say they had a feeling of terror, dread or the need to get the hell out of there even before they spotted the creature with their own eyes. the glowing eyes thing is also common, the most reported color is red.


Haha, i've been there before. Anyways, my dad said that he didn't get any weird feeling, he said that he just wanted to get as far away as possible from that person or thing. The man looked perfectly normal. No mothman, no big foot. The odd thing about this is that his eyes glared red from the reflection of the headlights. Plain and simple.
Reincarnated
you should ask him to be 100% honest and ask if it looked non-human. i'm not saying he's lying but there are people who don't like to talk about what they've seen in fear of being rediculed or called crazy. i've seen a lot of red eyes and dilated pupils lol and i've never seen any glow or reflect light like that. i remember hearing human eyes can't reflect light like that to be visible by another human eye, i'm too lazy to look it up. whatever it was, i know i would be getting the f out there ASAP also.
earthchick
QUOTE(Reincarnated @ May 7 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]1178768[/snapback]

i remember hearing human eyes can't reflect light like that to be visible by another human eye, i'm too lazy to look it up. whatever it was, i know i would be getting the f out there ASAP also.


It can happen, but the conditions have to be just right. The person viewing the red eyes (retroreflection) of the other person, must be looking from just the right angle and be behind the light source. The light source must also be coming from just the right angle. So, yeah, it would be rare for all the circumstances to be lined up just right, but it can happen.

*Edit: With animals it happens differently. They have what is called a "tapetum lucidum" at the back of the eye that acts as a reflector. It is part of what gives them night vision. When people's eyes look red in photographs, it's not a reflector because we don't have a tapetum lucidum. It's the camera flash bouncing off the red blood vessels and red tissue in the back of the eye. The same thing can happen from just about any light source and can be seen if the conditions are right, as I've said above.
Lizard King
QUOTE(earthchick @ May 7 2006, 07:40 PM) [snapback]1179067[/snapback]

It can happen, but the conditions have to be just right. The person viewing the red eyes (retroreflection) of the other person, must be looking from just the right angle and be behind the light source. The light source must also be coming from just the right angle. So, yeah, it would be rare for all the circumstances to be lined up just right, but it can happen.

*Edit: With animals it happens differently. They have what is called a "tapetum lucidum" at the back of the eye that acts as a reflector. It is part of what gives them night vision. When people's eyes look red in photographs, it's not a reflector because we don't have a tapetum lucidum. It's the camera flash bouncing off the red blood vessels and red tissue in the back of the eye. The same thing can happen from just about any light source and can be seen if the conditions are right, as I've said above.


Sweet, I bet that's what it must have been. If the man would have looked nonhuman, my dad would tell me. Infact, he would have probably armed me with a gun when I got old enough to lift one. Heh. Well, that was nice. Watch out for the eyes, man. YEah.
battleangel
I've actually looked into this whole red eye thing a pretty decent amount. First of all, the guy was probably a human being. The human eye cannot normally reflect light back where it would be detectable unless, as many people have already mentioned, a picture is being taken. Red eye in a non photo, on the other hand, usually only happens when the person's eyes have severe refractive errors that cause light entering the eye to reflect abnormally off of the retina. The fellow didn't have to necessarily be blind but I can guarantee that his vision probably was pretty bad.
Lizard King
QUOTE(battleangel @ May 9 2006, 11:15 PM) [snapback]1182362[/snapback]

I've actually looked into this whole red eye thing a pretty decent amount. First of all, the guy was probably a human being. The human eye cannot normally reflect light back where it would be detectable unless, as many people have already mentioned, a picture is being taken. Red eye in a non photo, on the other hand, usually only happens when the person's eyes have severe refractive errors that cause light entering the eye to reflect abnormally off of the retina. The fellow didn't have to necessarily be blind but I can guarantee that his vision probably was pretty bad.



That's nice to know. I'm going to go try this out on an old person or maybe someone with coke bottle glasses. That'll get me a restraining order for sure.
earthchick
Something else you could ask your father about: How intense was the red glow? Retroreflection from a human eye wouldn't be very intense, as it doesn't reflect that well. If the glow was very intense then there may be some other things to consider.
coldethyl
Maybe he was wearing those freaky contact lenses. Or really teeny tiny John Lennon type glasses. Or maybe some type of novelty glasses with the purpose of freaking people out.
greywolf
hi lizard king,
your dad sounds like a smart man.if i would have seen that i would want to get out of there too!
frogfish
Its called Red Eye, when the light bounce of your eyes from a camera flash so your eyes look red.
earthchick
QUOTE(frogfish @ May 13 2006, 05:19 PM) [snapback]1187155[/snapback]

Its called Red Eye, when the light bounce of your eyes from a camera flash so your eyes look red.



Oh really!? Wow! Ummm, maybe you should read a thread before you post.
battleangel
QUOTE(earthchick @ May 10 2006, 09:09 AM) [snapback]1182453[/snapback]

Something else you could ask your father about: How intense was the red glow? Retroreflection from a human eye wouldn't be very intense, as it doesn't reflect that well. If the glow was very intense then there may be some other things to consider.


Yep, it wouldn't be a glow like giving off its own light but a dull red glow.

najaesouljah
well my father had caterax. The doctors decided to do lens replacement surgery. After the surgery if he looked a certain way the one eye would shine like an animals eye.(He even had a serial number for it,seriously)
battleangel
QUOTE(najaesouljah @ May 17 2006, 06:12 PM) [snapback]1193204[/snapback]

well my father had caterax. The doctors decided to do lens replacement surgery. After the surgery if he looked a certain way the one eye would shine like an animals eye.(He even had a serial number for it,seriously)


Yep, I've seen mention of cataracts and cataract surgery also causing this effect. Pretty much anything that really mucks with the way the eye is normally set up can do it, I think. Maybe the fellow that was spotted was a cataract patient. thumbsup.gif


Caana
QUOTE(Lizard King @ May 2 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]1171260[/snapback]

Yeah. A little while back, my father told me a story. He said that one night about...I don't know, maybe 20 to 25 years ago, he had a strange experience while pulling into a parking lot somewhere. He can't quite remember where it was, he said that wasn't important at the time, he just wanted to get the hell out of there. He said that the sun had just set and he pulled into this parking lot. As he did this there was a man walking through it that had been flashed in the eyes with the headlights from my fathers vehicle. When this happen, the man's eyes glared a blood red like an animal's eyes would. My dad just kept on going and didn't look back. Now, I know that there can be some possibilities to this. Maybe the guy had on contacts that would create this sort of reaction. Or maybe it was something else. I know for sure that my dad had seen what he had said he saw, he doesn't usually like talking about that sort of stuff, but he is damn serious when he does. Have any of you got any info on this sort of thing? Any experiences? To hear this story from my father, it made my skin crawl. The only thing I can think of that would relate to this would be the 'red eye' occurence from the flash of a camera.


The enegy parasites can enter a persons body and control it utterly, Depending on what the empty one was doing with the man. These parasites can do many things as they play out the horror fantasy's they like to put us through. They are trans- dimensional and have knowledge from billions of scenario civilizations and they can manipulate all matter. If one wanted the person they are controlling to have red eye's and possably fangs to go with the eye's to better terrorize people with them, they can make it so and if any witness's saw what it was doing it would block the witness's memory's of the event if it did'nt decide to kill them too. Your fathers instincts saved him, even though he did'nt conciuosly reconize what it was, his mind remembers what it could have been. It's possable that in a former scenario he did have an encounter with the thing, which his mind would remember. Don't you have situations from your own life here, where you just know it had gone the other way? but ended up being different. Read my other posts, the parasites effect everything.

One more thing, because some of my initial posts are strongly against the religious and how the empty parasites use them to torment everyone else here. I feel it nessasary to say that whatever I write is not personal and that I like debate and good or bad comments. thanks
coldethyl
QUOTE(Caana @ Jun 2 2006, 04:31 AM) [snapback]1214778[/snapback]

One more thing, because some of my initial posts are strongly against the religious and how the empty parasites use them to torment everyone else here. I feel it nessasary to say that whatever I write is not personal and that I like debate and good or bad comments. thanks


Okay so you think the person was infested with an alien parasite?
Caana
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 2 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]1215473[/snapback]

Okay so you think the person was infested with an alien parasite?


Yeah, Because I've seen it before, I wrote something to rusticen, whatever. What I wrote is in my inbox and I haven't figured out how to transfer it to secret society's yet. I did mention I'm barely computer literate. Anyway I think what I wrote to him would explain it in a less flamatory manner and in more depth from what I believe to be happening then most of my attempt's lately, It's pretty good.

There like blobs of clear air that move through the air and some have white gold pinflash's and others have a black dot pinflash. It's alway's in the creatures center of mass. They hang out in groups of the same color or as individuals. Most of my life that I can remember, they've alway's been around. The only times i've observed both colors together, they've alway's stayed on opposite side's of the room or darted and circled at a set distance from each group or individual. everywhere, floor to ceiling.

When I track them, I can see them when they come near and when they notice me watching them, they come close and brush up against me and circle around me. Some times, when they want my attention, one will turn the waveyness of it's mass white and buzz back in forth in front of me. When I say buzz, it's a low buzz and brief. I won't respond to them, except with contempt and that the've earned. When I ignore it, it goes to the wall and i'll hear a sharp crack. I'f it get's really pissed, it will bump me and nudge me and the others will brush all around me because they know it bothers me, especially when they brush my head and stay there. Their touch is slightly cool.

The more powerfull ones, the one's I can feel in the room when they come, are much larger and the pinflash's are larger. They pop in a couple time's a week to check on me.
Twice, two massive one's. The first of them was when I was little, we had pine groves and fields on 30 acre's and I used to sit and sing out there. I studied them alot while out there. One day I felt something in the distance, it felt like when the medium sized ones were near but a whole lot stronger and it was getting even stronger as it drew nearer.

I felt a great sense of peace and joy all of a sudden. I looked up and I saw the biggest pinflash I had ever seen, White gold in color. I felt warm and refreshed and I felt a gentle pressure all over me. The other one's, all the small and medium thing's, were swarming somehow within the big one's mass, which I have alway's been able to see on all of them.
I heard a melodious sound, it had no meaning. The peace and joy were them greeting the big thing. Somehow I could feel it.

The second one I think, was related to the black dot one's. It was years later when I was 34yrs old. I was lying in bed and it was too hot to sleep when it grew suddenly cool and this overpowerfull sense of dread came over me. I could'nt move and it was cold. It was outside my window then and I could see out my window, as it was open and right next to my bed. I saw the mass or a part of it. It was too dark to see if it was black but a smaller part of the mass was touching me and it felt horrorable. Through the window and its mass, I saw two white gold pinflash's. They where large but not quite as large as the huge one from years ago.

All of a sudden, the cold feeling went away and I sat up and saw the two lighter pinflash thing's moving away and I felt the other one move away rapidly. When I was still young I went through some experience's. Those are what gradually made me realize what I was dealing with, or I should say attached themselves to me for some reason. I have seen them take control of people, both type's. you must understand that their colors don't denote good or bad, because both types are hidious and kill people without hesitation.

That's enough for now, but if your interested, I can write more. just let me know. Thank's


coldethyl
QUOTE(Caana @ Jun 2 2006, 08:38 PM) [snapback]1215750[/snapback]

Anyway I think what I wrote to him would explain it in a less flamatory manner and in more depth from what I believe to be happening then most of my attempt's lately, It's pretty good.

That's enough for now, but if your interested, I can write more. just let me know. Thank's


I don't think it's inflammatory at all. Are you writing a story is that why you say it's pretty good?

You can write whatever you like. I must say that's a tall tale... yes.gif
Caana
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 3 2006, 02:03 AM) [snapback]1215788[/snapback]

I don't think it's inflammatory at all. Are you writing a story is that why you say it's pretty good?

You can write whatever you like. I must say that's a tall tale... yes.gif



When I say pretty good, I meant my being able to express my experiance's better. Any one's sum expieriance's can be described as a story and debunked as a "tale".
coldethyl
QUOTE(Caana @ Jun 5 2006, 11:52 AM) [snapback]1219147[/snapback]

When I say pretty good, I meant my being able to express my experiance's better. Any one's sum expieriance's can be described as a story and debunked as a "tale".


Well that's all I was asking you don't have to be defensive.
Caana
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 5 2006, 06:55 PM) [snapback]1219286[/snapback]

Well that's all I was asking you don't have to be defensive.



No, not defensive at all, Just describing what is the most commom reaction.
DarkImperial
did you guys watch beyond belief: fact or friction?

there was this story on the red eye. The grandma had eyes that was glowing red at night and if I can recall, it is fact but I forgot the reason why.
coldethyl
QUOTE(DarkImperial @ Jun 7 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]1222063[/snapback]

did you guys watch beyond belief: fact or friction?

there was this story on the red eye. The grandma had eyes that was glowing red at night and if I can recall, it is fact but I forgot the reason why.


I used to watch it but I've not seen it in a while. If I had to guess I'd say something to do with cataracts? hmm.gif
Daniella2310
QUOTE(eden grange @ May 4 2006, 09:12 AM) [snapback]1174167[/snapback]

maybe he was "seeing red" because he was angry? when you are so angry the reason you see red is because tiny blood vessels in your eyes pop and redden the eye.

w00t.gif Can that really happen??

mizmez
Hi, hope this works, just registered.

I used to work as a waitress in a nightclub, in a smaller part of the club I saw this chick who was sitting with her friend. Her eyes shined red. It was pretty funny cos she looked evil but everytime I'd walk past I'd look at her and realised that where she was sitting, the club lights were doing the red thing to them. Sorry I'm a lazy typer, hope it makes sense.

I knew it was the same situation cos of the:
"As he did this there was a man walking through it that had been flashed in the eyes with the headlights from my fathers vehicle. When this happen, the man's eyes glared a blood red like an animal's eyes would."
avatar186
Many of you guys have said the same thing over and over, personally i believe the earth is gaining more and more energy. I know a fella, ive known him since i was 7, he has an INTENSE amount of energy, not to mention becouse of his job, he has an INTENSE amount of focuse, probly close to samadhi as the indies call it. the only problem is his focuse goes outwards not inwards, he can FEEL things just by looking at them.

NOW, he has higher perception, not conciousness, unfortunatly i cant help him anymore, anyways, i had pissed him off extremly bad a while back, he has brown eyes, but when his energy is flowin like a b**** the turn GREEN,wtf is with that huh? now he was mad, his eyes turned GREEN and the part of the eye nearist to the pupil turned f***ing RED, it was some deep sh**, now you tell me how brown eyes can turn green and red. ha! i think more energy is coming to our earths, the earths vibrations would just have to increase, thats all it would take, since energy is vibrations.
This man may have had an extreme amount of energy, look into the indies, the same people who are thought of as good, are also depicted as demons, not neccecarily bad, but the fact that they can look as such. its all over people. but what do i know.
Raptor
^That doesn't make any sense at all.

How does he have any more 'energy' than anyone else, and what type of energy? What do you mean by his focus goes 'outwards'? What does he feel?

Do you know how energy works? How would kinetic energy from the Earth do...anything?
coldethyl
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jun 12 2006, 05:03 AM) [snapback]1227981[/snapback]

^That doesn't make any sense at all.

How does he have any more 'energy' than anyone else, and what type of energy? What do you mean by his focus goes 'outwards'? What does he feel?

Do you know how energy works? How would kinetic energy from the Earth do...anything?


Totally agree. I couldn't make hide nor hair of that post.... hmm.gif
avatar186
lol, you know what chi is? chi is feeling. the physical five senses, are your tools for experianceing energy. scrath your arm, thats energy, me personally, i can move physical sensation threw out my body, its the easyist sense to master. external chi is being able to FEEL outside your body. hold your breath, as you start to suffucate, you feel energy, do some excersice, your energy is pumping. its hard for people to get in touch with "energy" as its called. try buy robert bruces astral dynamics. or just try scratching your hand, and learn to move the feeling, i can creat feeling on my body without even touching it, and i can move it. anyways, good luck with your stuff guys.

we all vibrate, energy is vibration, not everything vibrates at the same rate. im sure even air vibrates, i think the atoms of everything vibrate, if everything stood still, you probly wouldnt be able to move, nothing would probly move, haha. but im just assuming that. look up samdhi, his focuse goes outwards,instead of inwards, exactly that, external not internal. he can feel things, exactly that, a car going by, he can feel the vibrations, the engian, the wheels etc, a person crying, a dog dying, a persons joy, he can feel them, even a dying spider, he can feel its pain. or joy, or whatever, anwayys, good luck guys.
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