Try deism.

Google the term "Deism".



EDIT: Sorry for the double post.

Shop a faith! What a novel concept! Dragonfly, might I also suggest a browse of the philosophies that apply to: "Humanism" and "Free Thought"

But I'm closely related. Anyway, you're going to shoot me from a weapon out of star wars that makes dust fly off of my face?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expans..._space#Evidence

Read that you can decide for yourself, but I read that they can see unbound objects moving farther away from each other.

Hubbles Law Something a little more in depth and credible, than Wikipedia. (It's information is not always credible Exe11er. One can edit the entries to read as they wish.)

So it's not just me. I thought i read some wierd things in there.

All religion have one main concept... make people to beleive the impossible.. later they think about that... how that could have possible.. as soon as we think the possiblity.. we try to find more truth rather than just belief.. scientology.. later we accept which is written earlier is true.. and we got suprised by their findings.. more n more amazed how could that possible in that olden days?

We are talking here about belief of each person's god.. without this beleif.. what are the possible things can happen to us? this is what our topic..

I wasn't talking about the topic. It's just the way you said things back there made me think you may have been talking about reincarnation in that particular post. That's why I asked.

Did anyone else catch this contradiction it this post?

On that subject:

The familiar sound of a train whistle as it recedes into the distance is a consequence of the Doppler Effect. As the train moves away from the listener, the crests of the sound waves are stretched out or shifted, resulting in a lower pitch. The faster the train recedes, the more stretched out the waves become. The same holds true for any wave-emitting object--whether they be sound waves, light waves, or radio waves. Conversely, the wavelength of objects that are moving toward us are shorter than those emitted by an object at rest.
Atoms emit or absorb light in characteristic wavelengths: hydrogen, helium, and all the other atomic elements have their own spectrum signatures. In the early part of this century, Vesto Slipher was studying the spectra of light emitted from nearby galaxies. He noticed that the light coming from many galaxies was shifted toward the red, or longer wavelength, end of the spectrum. The simplest interpretation of this "redshift" was that the galaxies were moving away from us.

archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu



What do you consider then is the proper "scientific method"?

This goes into more detail but it might be to technical for you to understand: koning.ecsu.ctstateu.edu

No contradiction. Strong evidence does not absolute proof make. Until we are able to travel to even the next galaxy, we will have NO WAY to conduct the proper, necessary observations to bring this theory closer to being proven. The scientific method is very strict, to insure that when we declare something proven it will not be disproved by the next observation. Remember, scietists less than 120 years ago considered it impossible for heavy than air craft to fly and had "proven" that to be true.



Again, I admit, we have great evidence, but we are far from proving it. Some "scientists" seemingly like to forget the rigidity of the Scientific Method because it's so damn hard to prove anything.



That is a great link zandore, I had read that article before, if you read carefully you will see what I'm saying about the fact that we can't prove the Origins of the universe or that it is expanding. Until we have the capability to send probes out into VERY deep space (intergalactic), we have no way of conducting rigorous enough observations to begin to even figure out how to prove the theory.

Some scientists have a problem with using the red-shift of light as indication that galaxies are moving away from us, because it would seem to indicate we are at the center of the universe (something Christians would be satisfied with, I'm sure, but it would really suck, if everyone else had to admit it.)

With opinions like this (type A) I am surprised the wheel was invented.

So, you are down to obscure attacks, zandore?

I am not arguing about beliefs. I am trying to help you and several others understand the rigors of the SCIENTIFIC METHOD and the importance of those rigors.

If you can't make your point because the scientific method gets in the way, you need to examine the overall validity of your point.

If you cannot understand the importance of the scientific method say so, and I will try to explain it better and I'm sure others will also try to help.

Flaming no
That is against the rules here you should know that PA.



I know about what it takes for an "Observation" to become a "Theory" and reading your posts you do not understand just what a scientific theory is.



You still have not answered my question (evading just as PA does)

What do you consider then is the proper "scientific method"?



All right then please explain to us then and provide unbiased links.

I hadn't intended to get into the middle of this, but since you brought me up specifically:

err, I didn't say this. I'm sure you know this, can you perhaps explain what you meant. It sounds like you were addressing me.

Interesting, I had similar thoughts concerning your posts

zandore, you provided a link to a great article in one of your previous posts. In my next post, I said I had read that article you were linking to and that it provided a great explanation of the Scientific Method.

Then just what was it you are trying to say here

I never like to talk about any particular god.. i like to answer and talk in general.. if a human known as god, it means he is near to god.. he should have an extraordinary powers... then he would have guessed his future.. or something like it.. but my previous post i told about a common man.. who later get enligten

Each teacher explain their subject with their knowledge... there you will learn only theory... only pratical class give you real meaning of what you learn.. until then what you learn before is just a subject or story or fiction..