Im a huge believer, and so is my mother. We talked a few years back when in a conversation about UFO's and ET's that in a scripture or prophecy that was a credible source, I don' remember sorry but, it had said something that the Government was suppose to ocme out with the truth about ET and UFO's to the public? The reason for this was because after a tradgey somewhere in the world happens a bunch of UFO's and ET make themselves known and the Government have no choice to come out and say they are real.
It was some kind of prophecy, just don' remember where it was from it was so long since I talked about it, anyone recall it?
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My dad was big on UFO's and all that. I grew up surrounded with UFO/alien info. - anyway, this is new to me. Is this a biblical prophecy?
I kinda remember hearing this on one of the UFo thread's....I have a friend who's into UFO's big time, I could ask him if you want....He run's a UFO site..... 
In the early 90s the UFO community was awash with stories that the turn of the new millenium would see an exhibition travelling worldwide documenting man's travels in space. Both Russian and American technology would be featured but the star of te exhibition would be conclusive proof that somekind of other civilisation has visited us.
In the end, nothing happened but the rumpurs were doing the rounds for a couple of years circa 1992
In the end, nothing happened but the rumpurs were doing the rounds for a couple of years circa 1992
I am the ALMIGHTY INTERWEB PROPHET and I fear that in the near future there will be war between two countries. This war will be won by one side, and the world will change as we know it today (only because i am speaking of the future which would mean the world would have already changed since today would be the past in the future). Aliens will show up and show themselves, but then be exterminated by the winning countries to only be known as a weather baloon gone in kahoots.
I am the ALMIGHTY INTERWEB PROPHET and I fear that in the near future there will be war between two countries. This war will be won by one side, and the world will change as we know it today (only because i am speaking of the future which would mean the world would have already changed since today would be the past in the future). Aliens will show up and show themselves, but then be exterminated by the winning countries to only be known as a weather baloon gone in kahoots.
i was watching something on tv the other day about the cult life of ufo's and there was suppose to be a place in the desert in america that was said to be a place where aliens would come and talk with the people there, the time came and went and no aliens.
There is still a man who lives there waiting for them to come.
There is still a man who lives there waiting for them to come.
I've actually heard stuff like this several times. I've also heard (several times) that the end of the world was coming due to Planet X, big asteroid, big comet, pole shift, extreme climate change...the list goes on.
Go figure...
Go figure...
QUOTE(DamienPriest @ May 5 2006, 02:18 PM) [snapback]1175613[/snapback]
Im a huge believer, and so is my mother. We talked a few years back when in a conversation about UFO's and ET's that in a scripture or prophecy that was a credible source, I don' remember sorry but, it had said something that the Government was suppose to ocme out with the truth about ET and UFO's to the public? The reason for this was because after a tradgey somewhere in the world happens a bunch of UFO's and ET make themselves known and the Government have no choice to come out and say they are real.
It was some kind of prophecy, just don' remember where it was from it was so long since I talked about it, anyone recall it?
I dont know about "Prophecy" But I do remember the 1969 Holloman AFB incident.. three flying discs were reported nearing the runway where upon one of the discs broke away from the other two.. decended and landed..There was a meeting between U.S generals and the three small grey extraterresrial visitors which was allegedly recorded on 800 feet of film..! Later the film was to be released by the U.S government along with other U.F.O related material to the public but was never released due to the "Watergate" scandal..? Is this what you are refering to..?
Here's a link which tells the story a bit more in depth..http://www.presidentialufo.com/disclosure_72-75.htm
For some reason I have a really hard time understanding what Watergate has to do with the releasing of UFO information? BTW, I was a young adult during that time, I remember it quite well.
QUOTE(Lilly @ May 6 2006, 02:45 PM) [snapback]1176836[/snapback]
For some reason I have a really hard time understanding what Watergate has to do with the releasing of UFO information?
Well thats how the story goes..?
QUOTE(Lilly @ May 6 2006, 02:45 PM) [snapback]1176836[/snapback]
BTW, I was a young adult during that time, I remember it quite well.
What the flying disc landing..? And I thought you were a hardened skeptic...? lol
There are a few people who claimed they were given UFO information by the government to produce a film or television program in which the government would admit it's knowlege of UFOs. One film was going to be entitled 'Cosmic Journey',in which the US government was allegedly going to display a preserved alien body and a section of a UFO.
Walt Disney was also allegedly contacted about producing a UFO film:
Kimball stated in the speech that around 1955 or 1956 Walt Disney was contacted by the USAF and asked to cooperate on a documentary about UFOs. The USAF offered to supply actual UFO footage, which Disney would be allowed to use in his film.
According to Kimball, Disney went along with the USAF plan, which was not unusual. The use of Walt Disney cartoons, after all had been suggested by the 1953 CIA Robertson UFO panel as part of a public-education program involving the mass media to "strip the UFO phenomenon of its special status and eliminatethe aura of mystery it has acquired."
The discussions between the CIA people and Disney may actually have taken place, because in August 1955, Frederick C. Durant 111, who was a member of the Robertson CIA panel showed Walt Kimball's documentary "Man in Space" during the Sixth Congress of the International Astronomical Federation in Copenhagan.
Disney had also cooperated with the government in producing a number of war documentaries during World War 11 like the documentary "Victory through Air Power. In one year, during the war, Disney turned out over four hundred thousand feet of government films.
Disney was also, according to a December 16, 1954 FBI document made a SAC Contact for the FBI, which elevated him from his former position as an informant for the agency. The confidential internal FBI memo read,
"Because of Mr. Disney,s position as the foremost producer of cartoon files in the motion picture industry, and his prominence and wide acquaintanceship in film production matters, it is believed that he can be of valuable assistance to this office . . . "
Once Walt Disney had finished his meetings with the USAF, he began to work on the requested UFO documentary for the public. He asked his animators to think up what an alien would look like. Meanwhile, he waited for the Air Force to deliver the promised film. After some period of time the Air Force re-contacted Disney and told him the film offer had to be withdrawn. There would be no UFO footage as promised. Kimball told researcher Stanton Friedman that once he found out there would be no delivery of UFO film, he personally spoke with an Air Force Colonel who told him, "there indeed was plenty of UFO footage, but that neither Ward, nor anyone else, was going to get access to it. This caused a temporary halt to the project. As one account by Bruce Maccabee described it,
"Disney cancelled the project, but by this time a lot of animated film of creatures, had been completed by his artists. So Disney went ahead and made a short 'documentary' anyway, featuring Jonathan Winters impersonating various 'characters' associated with typical UFO lore."
"I specifically recall Mr. Winters as an old lady/grandmother who saw a UFO and reported it... then he portrayed the Air Force officer who investigated the sightings and offered explanations. He also portrayed a little boy in a room who had a telescope looking up at the stars and, to the little boy's amazement, an alien came through the telescope into his room. Of course the boys father didn't believe that story."
The UFO documentary was never shown in public, but Kimball did show the 15-20 minute piece at the 1979 UFO Symposium. The movie, however, did not contain any of the dramatic UFO footage everyone had been promised. What is important to note about this Kimball story about the attempt by the United States government to "spill the beans is that it was not the only time such an incident occurred.
In 1972-73 Colonel Robert Coleman, former USAF Project Blue Book spokesman, and former ATIC Commander Colonel George Weinbrenner, made an offer of "800 feet of film . . .as well as several thousand feet of additional material of dramatic UFO material to documentary film producers Robert Emenegger and Allan Sandler at the Pentagon. They would be allowed to use the UFO footage in a special film project they had been asked to join.
The promised film was reportedly dramatic footage of an encounter between the occupants of a landed UFO and officials at Holloman Air Force Base. It impressed Emenegger who described what he saw in 1988, "What I saw and heard was enough to convince me that the phenomenon of UFOs is real very real.
The project was described to the two producers as a documentary on a secret government project. When the two men discovered that the topic of the secret project would be UFOs, they were surprised because "they had assumed that the matter had been resolved with the closure of Project Blue Book in 1969.
The documentary was to be sponsored by the Department of Defense in a claimed attempt to do a public relations turnaround, which was needed because of the Vietnam War. At least that is the story Emenegger and Sandler were told by Bill Coleman. A number of different subjects were proposed for the documentaries, but no other subject, other than UFOs, were brought up.
The two documentary producers were told that the government was now ready to release all the facts about the alien presence on earth. They were shown evidence that they could use for their tell-all documentary. This evidence included:
* Photographs and films of UFOs. - Pictures of grey-skinned alien beings.
* A 16mm movie film of an alien in the company of an Air Force officer. The two men were told that this alien had survived a 1949 crash and it had been kept at a safe house in Los Alamos until its death in 1952.
* 800 feet of film showing a landed encounter between three aliens and Holloman Air Base officials during a landing that had reportedly occurred there in May 1971. Several thousand feet of additional material was also offered.
* Photos of UFOs taken by astronauts, which NASA had formally denied the existence of.
As the documentary neared completion, the two producers waited for the promised dramatic alien landing footage. Colonel Bill Coleman who had first made the offer to provide it in 1972, however, withdrew it. According to what Emenegger told researcher Tim Good, Coleman had declared, "The timing was politically inappropriate, due to the Watergate scandal.
The Emenegger/Sandler documentary, "UFOS, Past, Present, and Future released by Sandler Films in 1974, was forced to use standard animation, background film taken at Holloman, and "elaborate drawing of the so-called aliens. At least that is what the producers thought when they first ran the film. Later, indications arose that indicated 12 seconds of the actual Holloman landing might have been part of the "training film material they were provided. As an interesting footnote to the Disney story, Emenegger reported that he and Sandler had also talked with the Disney people during the time period they were working on the documentary. The people who they spoke to at the Disney studios "seemed to be involved and interested, but not have any particularly startling data.
In 1983, the United States government made yet another offer of dramatic UFO film for a UFO documentary. The offer was made to documentary film producer Linda Moulton Howe and HBO. They were approached and offered the same Holloman landing film along with a film of the live alien that lived in a Los Alamos safe house from 1949-1952.
While preparing to make a UFO documentary for HBO, Howe was given information by Richard Doty, a special agent with Air Force OSI at Kirtland AFB (Albuquerque). Doty claims that higher ups were willing to release special confirming UFO information for her documentary. Howe described the film offer,
"The government intended to release to me several thousand feet of color and black and white film taken between 1947 and 1964 showing crashed UFO discs and extraterrestrial bodies in historic footage to be included in the HBO documentary supported with official government confirmation."
As with Kimball and the Emenegger/Sandler team, the promised film was never released to Howe. Despite Doty,s claim that the government had authorized the release of film showing crashed saucers and alien bodies for use in the HBO documentary, it never materialized due to "political delays. When the alleged historical film footage didn,t materialized, HBO canceled the documentary.
http://www.planetarymysteries.com/ufo/disney.html
Walt Disney was also allegedly contacted about producing a UFO film:
Kimball stated in the speech that around 1955 or 1956 Walt Disney was contacted by the USAF and asked to cooperate on a documentary about UFOs. The USAF offered to supply actual UFO footage, which Disney would be allowed to use in his film.
According to Kimball, Disney went along with the USAF plan, which was not unusual. The use of Walt Disney cartoons, after all had been suggested by the 1953 CIA Robertson UFO panel as part of a public-education program involving the mass media to "strip the UFO phenomenon of its special status and eliminatethe aura of mystery it has acquired."
The discussions between the CIA people and Disney may actually have taken place, because in August 1955, Frederick C. Durant 111, who was a member of the Robertson CIA panel showed Walt Kimball's documentary "Man in Space" during the Sixth Congress of the International Astronomical Federation in Copenhagan.
Disney had also cooperated with the government in producing a number of war documentaries during World War 11 like the documentary "Victory through Air Power. In one year, during the war, Disney turned out over four hundred thousand feet of government films.
Disney was also, according to a December 16, 1954 FBI document made a SAC Contact for the FBI, which elevated him from his former position as an informant for the agency. The confidential internal FBI memo read,
"Because of Mr. Disney,s position as the foremost producer of cartoon files in the motion picture industry, and his prominence and wide acquaintanceship in film production matters, it is believed that he can be of valuable assistance to this office . . . "
Once Walt Disney had finished his meetings with the USAF, he began to work on the requested UFO documentary for the public. He asked his animators to think up what an alien would look like. Meanwhile, he waited for the Air Force to deliver the promised film. After some period of time the Air Force re-contacted Disney and told him the film offer had to be withdrawn. There would be no UFO footage as promised. Kimball told researcher Stanton Friedman that once he found out there would be no delivery of UFO film, he personally spoke with an Air Force Colonel who told him, "there indeed was plenty of UFO footage, but that neither Ward, nor anyone else, was going to get access to it. This caused a temporary halt to the project. As one account by Bruce Maccabee described it,
"Disney cancelled the project, but by this time a lot of animated film of creatures, had been completed by his artists. So Disney went ahead and made a short 'documentary' anyway, featuring Jonathan Winters impersonating various 'characters' associated with typical UFO lore."
"I specifically recall Mr. Winters as an old lady/grandmother who saw a UFO and reported it... then he portrayed the Air Force officer who investigated the sightings and offered explanations. He also portrayed a little boy in a room who had a telescope looking up at the stars and, to the little boy's amazement, an alien came through the telescope into his room. Of course the boys father didn't believe that story."
The UFO documentary was never shown in public, but Kimball did show the 15-20 minute piece at the 1979 UFO Symposium. The movie, however, did not contain any of the dramatic UFO footage everyone had been promised. What is important to note about this Kimball story about the attempt by the United States government to "spill the beans is that it was not the only time such an incident occurred.
In 1972-73 Colonel Robert Coleman, former USAF Project Blue Book spokesman, and former ATIC Commander Colonel George Weinbrenner, made an offer of "800 feet of film . . .as well as several thousand feet of additional material of dramatic UFO material to documentary film producers Robert Emenegger and Allan Sandler at the Pentagon. They would be allowed to use the UFO footage in a special film project they had been asked to join.
The promised film was reportedly dramatic footage of an encounter between the occupants of a landed UFO and officials at Holloman Air Force Base. It impressed Emenegger who described what he saw in 1988, "What I saw and heard was enough to convince me that the phenomenon of UFOs is real very real.
The project was described to the two producers as a documentary on a secret government project. When the two men discovered that the topic of the secret project would be UFOs, they were surprised because "they had assumed that the matter had been resolved with the closure of Project Blue Book in 1969.
The documentary was to be sponsored by the Department of Defense in a claimed attempt to do a public relations turnaround, which was needed because of the Vietnam War. At least that is the story Emenegger and Sandler were told by Bill Coleman. A number of different subjects were proposed for the documentaries, but no other subject, other than UFOs, were brought up.
The two documentary producers were told that the government was now ready to release all the facts about the alien presence on earth. They were shown evidence that they could use for their tell-all documentary. This evidence included:
* Photographs and films of UFOs. - Pictures of grey-skinned alien beings.
* A 16mm movie film of an alien in the company of an Air Force officer. The two men were told that this alien had survived a 1949 crash and it had been kept at a safe house in Los Alamos until its death in 1952.
* 800 feet of film showing a landed encounter between three aliens and Holloman Air Base officials during a landing that had reportedly occurred there in May 1971. Several thousand feet of additional material was also offered.
* Photos of UFOs taken by astronauts, which NASA had formally denied the existence of.
As the documentary neared completion, the two producers waited for the promised dramatic alien landing footage. Colonel Bill Coleman who had first made the offer to provide it in 1972, however, withdrew it. According to what Emenegger told researcher Tim Good, Coleman had declared, "The timing was politically inappropriate, due to the Watergate scandal.
The Emenegger/Sandler documentary, "UFOS, Past, Present, and Future released by Sandler Films in 1974, was forced to use standard animation, background film taken at Holloman, and "elaborate drawing of the so-called aliens. At least that is what the producers thought when they first ran the film. Later, indications arose that indicated 12 seconds of the actual Holloman landing might have been part of the "training film material they were provided. As an interesting footnote to the Disney story, Emenegger reported that he and Sandler had also talked with the Disney people during the time period they were working on the documentary. The people who they spoke to at the Disney studios "seemed to be involved and interested, but not have any particularly startling data.
In 1983, the United States government made yet another offer of dramatic UFO film for a UFO documentary. The offer was made to documentary film producer Linda Moulton Howe and HBO. They were approached and offered the same Holloman landing film along with a film of the live alien that lived in a Los Alamos safe house from 1949-1952.
While preparing to make a UFO documentary for HBO, Howe was given information by Richard Doty, a special agent with Air Force OSI at Kirtland AFB (Albuquerque). Doty claims that higher ups were willing to release special confirming UFO information for her documentary. Howe described the film offer,
"The government intended to release to me several thousand feet of color and black and white film taken between 1947 and 1964 showing crashed UFO discs and extraterrestrial bodies in historic footage to be included in the HBO documentary supported with official government confirmation."
As with Kimball and the Emenegger/Sandler team, the promised film was never released to Howe. Despite Doty,s claim that the government had authorized the release of film showing crashed saucers and alien bodies for use in the HBO documentary, it never materialized due to "political delays. When the alleged historical film footage didn,t materialized, HBO canceled the documentary.
http://www.planetarymysteries.com/ufo/disney.html
QUOTE(dunderhead @ May 6 2006, 03:18 PM) [snapback]1176929[/snapback]
Well thats how the story goes..?
What the flying disc landing..? And I thought you were a hardened skeptic...? lol
No, I mean, I remember Watergate and the time period in general.
BTW, I'm skeptical about most things. However, that said, I've also seen a "flying disc" (don't know who was piloting it, though). If I were to see some really good evidence that aliens were involved, I wouldn't be *hardened* for long!
QUOTE(Lilly @ May 6 2006, 04:46 PM) [snapback]1176956[/snapback]
No, I mean, I remember Watergate and the time period in general.
I know you were talking about "Watergate" I was acting the fool..? lol
QUOTE(Lilly @ May 6 2006, 04:46 PM) [snapback]1176956[/snapback]
BTW, I'm skeptical about most things. However, that said, I've also seen a "flying disc" (don't know who was piloting it, though). If I were to see some really good evidence that aliens were involved, I wouldn't be *hardened* for long!
Did you report your sighting to the aviation authorities to see if they could clarify what it was you had seen..?
Oh, it was reported. See here for details. To my knowledge it remains unexplained, strangest thing I've ever seen.
QUOTE(DamienPriest @ May 5 2006, 08:18 AM) [snapback]1175613[/snapback]
Im a huge believer, and so is my mother. We talked a few years back when in a conversation about UFO's and ET's that in a scripture or prophecy that was a credible source, I don' remember sorry but, it had said something that the Government was suppose to ocme out with the truth about ET and UFO's to the public? The reason for this was because after a tradgey somewhere in the world happens a bunch of UFO's and ET make themselves known and the Government have no choice to come out and say they are real.
It was some kind of prophecy, just don' remember where it was from it was so long since I talked about it, anyone recall it?
Damien Priest, I think I may know what you are talking about. A lot of Christians believe in "end-time prophecy" in regards to the return of Jesus. There will be a tribulation period in which the anti-christ will rise to ultimate power and end up persecuting all who do not obey him. It will be so bad that God will "rapture the church" or call home many people so they do not have to endure this hell on Earth. A lot of end time preachers say that the anti-christ and his one world government will explain these disappearences as alien abductions. Thus leading to disclosure.
I believe this is the tragedy you were talking about. I hope this helps.
QUOTE(DamienPriest @ May 5 2006, 09:18 AM) [snapback]1175613[/snapback]
Im a huge believer, and so is my mother. We talked a few years back when in a conversation about UFO's and ET's that in a scripture or prophecy that was a credible source, I don' remember sorry but, it had said something that the Government was suppose to ocme out with the truth about ET and UFO's to the public? The reason for this was because after a tradgey somewhere in the world happens a bunch of UFO's and ET make themselves known and the Government have no choice to come out and say they are real.
It was some kind of prophecy, just don' remember where it was from it was so long since I talked about it, anyone recall it?
There is no scripture or prophecy in the bible that says anything like that. There are scriptures in the Bible people have started to interpret as being Alien/UFO related that that seem to take God right out of the picture. But thats for another thread. Having said that even those mis interpreted scriptures were about things that have happened allready. The Rapture(although the word Rapture never appears in the Bible it is in fact a concept taken from several different scriptures scattered throughout the New Testament and given a name)
has led some people to hypothesize that all the people who dissappear will be said to have been taken away by UFOS. The aliens are the ones telling us this and are lying.
Hope that was helpful
QUOTE(WaltFreakinWhitman @ May 28 2006, 09:58 AM) [snapback]1208570[/snapback]
There is no scripture or prophecy in the bible that says anything like that. There are scriptures in the Bible people have started to interpret as being Alien/UFO related that that seem to take God right out of the picture. But thats for another thread. Having said that even those mis interpreted scriptures were about things that have happened allready. The Rapture(although the word Rapture never appears in the Bible it is in fact a concept taken from several different scriptures scattered throughout the New Testament and given a name)
has led some people to hypothesize that all the people who dissappear will be said to have been taken away by UFOS. The aliens are the ones telling us this and are lying.
Hope that was helpful
"[i]Walt Disney was also allegedly contacted about producing a UFO film:"
Walt Disney thats interesting but I guess they do have the credentials and experience
making cartoons for the Government
Walt Disney thats interesting but I guess they do have the credentials and experience
making cartoons for the Government
QUOTE(WaltFreakinWhitman @ May 29 2006, 02:20 AM) [snapback]1208975[/snapback]
"[i]Walt Disney was also allegedly contacted about producing a UFO film:"
Walt Disney thats interesting but I guess they do have the credentials and experience
making cartoons for the Government
well that would naturally be one of the best places to insert alien support
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