Its more likely they would of killed each other...

did you not see my

no, and I have seen photos of hyenadogs and wild ligers

no u havent. a hyeana dog is another name for a africa wild dog but its not a hyeana dog cross. if thats what u are tlaking aobut a hyeana cantot physicaly produce offspring with a dog. and there are no wild ligers jesus christ look at the facts kid. show me it prove ot me ther are wild ligers show me a picture ofr link or anytihng

yes I have and I know someone who saw a wild liger

please prove this please. i can saw i once saw a flying pig but that doesnt mean its real

man your mean, and if i could show proof to don't you think I would have done by now

in the eys of science proof is all that matters. i mea u already said uve seen a croos between a hyeana and a dog which is impossible how can i belive any of ur supposed sightings now?

more commonly called African Painted Dogs





They don't exist

The only ligers were bred in zoos

Face the facts thecreeper...

fine as soon as you face the facts and admit you were wrong on other subjects we have fought over, then I would be happy to

Wow, are you really that close-minded...There things called facts...You LACK facts...No one will ever believe you without facts.

FACT:
There are no wild ligers

Fact: we do not Know everything there is to know

true...But we do know A LOT...like there are no wild ligers

Fact: what we know is a drop in the bucket compared to how much we DON'T know

Fact: We still do know that there are no wild ligers

Fact:it is possible that someone released ligers in to the wild

Fact: Its not possible at Gir Forest as its a National Park with Rangers 24/7...plus there are only a few ligers worldwide...No more.

Fact: you can't possibly know that

Yes I can...deal with it creeper...you are wrong.

Face the facts.

I said I would as soon as you face the fact that you have been wrong in other debates we have had

Fact: as a zoologist i can say there are currently no wild ligers. Fact: as a zoologist i can say that ligers are a creation of man to attract visitors to zoos in earlier years. Fact: its irevelatn weither we know every thing there is to know aobut everything we cna still say ehat we know is fact and fact is we know there are no wild ligers.

Stubborn as the day is long...

Well, you have just proclaimed your ignorance over the last few pages to the whole forum No one will believe you again.

okay I admit wild ligers are a myth, but you are 5000000 times more stubborn than I am, you can't even admit you have been wrong sometimes

On what, mermaids?

that, and you calling me a liar, I have never lied about anything on this forum

THIS WHOLE THREAD!


I am pretty sure I am right about mermaids not existing.

u did say u saw a hyeana/dog cross and a wild liger before. and ligers in the wild isnt a myth its nouthing its ignorance not to sound rude but i mean come on clearly u didnt think u woudl know more aobut animals thne i did u?

in english?, and I saw what looked like a heynadog, and I thought I saw a wild liger

nah u def didnt say it that way i love how people change ther stories when they know they lost

they Looked like hyenadogs, and wild ligers, my error I thought they were.

Where in the wild did you see them?

northern africa

Before or after moving from San Diego. ?

You don't have a picture do you? didn't take a snap and leave it behind with a neighbour? Gee, for a young fellow you sure are well travelled.

Maybe try not arguing. Sheeeesh. Arguing animal mating behaviour with a person majoring in the subject. How often do you think he sticks his head in a book on the subject? Where do you get off? How about, thanks, that information was great!! I know a little more. Nope, make up a story and argue it till another thread shuts. Posters like you need a 'special' forum.

Wondering about the pelts. Have they been inspected for authenticity? Seems very little to go on for as possible cryptid, great that someone is looking into it and all, there just seems to be one or two other cryptid accounts that have more evidence in their favour, and that seem more likely to yield results with an expedition. Dunno, I'd have this one down the list a wee bit. Those pics of the forced mating do look like the lioness is drugged. Moves very little through the series, I thought in Lion mating the female was quite aggressive, particularly at the beggining of the courtship.

so, I traveled there once on a trip, and the forum joke , uncalled for man

yea lionesses are quiet mean during courtship. it acutaly some times hurts them male lions penis' like all if not most (im not sure if ther anre any exceptions or not)are barbed and this causes some pain so they kindaa have to be subdued they often give the males quiet a few scrarches on the face. if u ever see on like animal planet or something the males will gently bite the back of the females neck this helps with the pain it causes a hormone to get released that dulls pain. and once its over they ususaly smack the male around again.

my brain just blew up, never tell me stuff like that,robbied

You started it You told it.
Be more sensible, do not argue imaginary things if you do not want a hammering

did not

The worst part of all that is that; don't Lion's lso mate like 20 times a day?? I always hoped reincarnatrion was for real and I would return as a Lion, having second thoughts now.....

^ PS Pffft, I wont justify that with a waste of another post creeper, sufice to say you usually put this much thought into all your posts and rebuttles. I expected no less from you.

now your making personal insults, for shame, have you sunk so low?

No, that was not a personal insult, it was a fact - you know, the things you avoid.

Sink low, geez seems anyone who dislikes your imaginary facts and nonsensical rebuttles 'sinks low' or attacks you.

In this case, I have further to sink, I had to take a number.

Can you take your precious wisdom to another thread and let the big kids play now? We would like to get back on topic.

Seen Ligers in the wild? personally? And argue your stories with a zoology major? How dare you use the line

"for Shame"

on me. And in finishing, I have yet to see you win an argument, nay, present arguable evidence in any form when debating with Frogfish. I do not know what you think you have proven him wrong on, but I am yet to see one thing.

What about a horny teenaged lion

thats the worst kind of lion, darn those horny teenage lions, why back in my day you waited tell you knew the girl more than 20 minutes before we started hitting on them,

One needs to watch oneself around a horny teenaged anything

When my wifes teenage Son walks in our door, even the fish stop swimming. They know anything that moves is in trouble.......and if it doesn't move, he will give it a damn good kick!

HEY!! I am one of those teenagers and I resent what you just said

Ligers in N. Africa? First of all, thats impossible...

Hyenadogs in N.Africa? Hunting dogs inhabit S. Africa

now frogfish im sure they were seen with the mermaid in san diago in the wild......

Actually, you'd be surprised to know that coyotes actually present a very ecologically important problem to the red wolf Canis rufus, which is very quickly losing it's gene pool through mating with coyotes. It's a very sad thing... and is becoming alarmingly common, because the home ranges are being pressed closely together (probably due to man... YET AGAIN! sigh). However, they are of hte same genus, Canis, which every dog is, and so can interbreed and produce sexually viable offspring, in theory... Sometimes barriers across space and time do allow a sort of inability to interbreed successfully, but this is not the case for the red wolf, sadly.

OK, assuming that the lion and tiger home range DID cross, that does not mean you would get interspecific mating at all. They would be more likely to try to kill (and maybe eat) each other than to mate. For one thing, the red squirrel Sciurus vulgaris isn't under threat from the grey squirrel due to breeding... it's because Sciurus caroliniensis can "survive" better, and is also responsible for habitat destruction as well.



... or he humps it til it DOES move oohhh, to be a teen again... erm.. I mean...




yeah... and it lasts like 20 SECONDS! Man that must suck! Going by what lionesses are like... no wonder they're so narky! They must be really unfulfilled!!
I'd hate to be a lion... 20 seconds!? I'd fear for my life! Or a gorilla for that matter... oh dear, I'm slipping into vulgarity again...

Frogfish, I have to say I admire your tenacity! Although I do kinda feel sorry for Creeper. We have a saying here, you argue like a Rangers fan (that's Glasgow Rangers), because they never back down (even when they're wrong- not that I'm saying you're wrong at all). I'm enjoying this thread... Maybe I'm sick.

RKD

if u read i did exclude red wlves from that due to a very very ver complicated and visicious debate apobut what they realy are is going on in the zoological community. officaly that are calssified asa species of wolf. but dna is showing that they are a possible wolf coyote hybrid. but this can be debunked by saying that the mtDNA may have come from a female coyote many many many years ago and that any coyote dna in them other then the mtDNA has been breed ut again after re breeding witgh red wolves. so in tern there basicly back to howthey were. the wolves taken for beeding in the 1930'3 i belive it was may have been after the time of coyote interferance so they show the signs of thecoyote gene. the introuduction of coyote mtDNA may have happend long beofre that time so most red wolves we found would havehadit anyway. but tyhen people say that there is the neuclear dna that has no markers in them that show them to be any diffrent then a wolfcoyote cross but this two has been said that they may gbe a very very ancient breed. this then means that after forming from the common ancestor they stoped evolving where as wolves and coyoteskept evolving and thus they woudl have no diffrent markers. haha i did my senior project in highschool on red wolves and i did 3 reports in college on them. personaly i belve them to be a species and they shoudl b left alone if classified as a hybrid farmers will kill them out once again due to no protection from the goverment. and that will be horrible.

ah right. Apologies dude, I'm supposed to be revising, so I'm kinda flicking between the two and scanning the posts...

Seems more interesting than Quarternary Paleoecology anyways...

RKD

its cool imsuppsoed to be doing a report myself lol