Is it true NASA is hiding videos that contain clear evidence that alien spaceships exist? I found on this website videos that were recorded on NASA cameras, however the images were recorded from a live source, before NASA had time to eventually black out the UFO space ships! The site is here if you guys wanna see the videos i just saw: http://www.unseen.net.tc/nasa_unseen.htm I recently seen on another site satellite images of the moon with areas smugged. They said these areas were smugged to hide alien bases! I cant find the site right now, ill post it here once i find it. Is this true?? Is NASA hiding the truth from us??

quite possibly yes. on the other thread heer a hacker is saying they blank ufos outta pictures for quite some time now, so yes its possible

In a word, no, it is not true. If these video clips actually showed any evidence of alien spacecraft, do you think that the government would've authorized their release, and that they wouldn't have been monitoring the web for any vestiges of these things being exposed to the public domain?

These clips show nothing identifiable at all...as anything but pieces of the nominal debris that float around the shuttle whenever the cargo bay doors are opened.

That last clip of the horizon shows absolutely nothing but a bright object sitting about an un-referenced horizon...apparently the earth. That bright object could well be camera artifact, or a reflection on the interior of the window where the camera was pointed to film the scene. This is alot more common, and certainly more plausible than the notion that these things show anything alien at all.

The claim that this last sequence is "undeniable proof" is typical of sites such as Unseen and Cosmic Conspiracies. There is nothing about these things that qualifies by any standard as "undeniable proof".

I don't want to load QuickTime to view that, but from the pics, I can see the skeptics crying "ice particles"

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I wonder if the US goverment knows about the truth

And you would cry,"its real, its real" without any true proof.

I don't want to download quicktime either but here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qYl1OMM0fk...E52080&index=28
is one that shows an object NASA filmed that I would call very interesting

and here are a couple more
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...7615&q=ufo+nasa

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...860630740&q=ufo

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8...454053277&q=ufo

Why the HELL would NASA take a load of pics with UFO's in them and blur them out, then release them!? Would it not make more sense to just... not bother, and hide them away!? Or am I missing something?

RKD

The most convincing video thus far in the UFO phenomenon world is the video seen through the link at the top. Very clearly some type of spacecraft taking evasive action from some type of missle or laser-fire. The others are space junk.

Clearly some type of spacecraft?

Evasive action from some type of missile or laser fire?


That's a stretch from a fuzzy blip of something on a blown up grainy image of an unreferenced, unscaled video taken somewhere by someone of something. That's about all one can say with any certainty about this.

You can neither tell what it is, or where it is in relation to the camera.

It is incomprehensible how such things can be used to determine such specifics. It is absolutely unclear what is seen in this clip.

We do not block out images

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im not here to spy on you.......just keep your mouths shut.

Ah, but you're forgetting the most important element when looking at video like this... *belief*. Those who are concluding that this is evidence for the existence of ET space ships already believe that there are ET space ships buzzing the planet!

Kinda puts the cart before the horse, doesn't it?

my reply to that first video is


...And stay out motherf%@&er!!
AHAHAHAHA!
(said the little earthlings)

the humanoid articles on the same website are pretty creepy

Lil,

Yes, ma'am, you are absolutely correct!
It is nice to have the clarity of your perspective here...makes me wonder if I have a brain sometimes

Well, I'm only clear on some things.

When it comes to understanding technical and engineering stuff your brain makes mine look like a peanut. I had to read Jay's Clavius site twice. The second time I got a friend (an engineer and amateur photographer) to do some *translation* for me!

Well I can certainly understand that. Jay put an incredible amount of work into that well written site of his, and of course he is currently in that field, and so is "current", as we say, in such matters.

Now, when it comes to biology (to wit...your comments on the dog-saliva discussion), your brain makes mine look like a filbert! But when you think about it, that's the beauty of diversity. You really have to love something to get to your level of knowledge and experience in something like biology.

But yet, a certain intelligence allows you to understand, no? Sure, the idioms of specific fields may bewilder, but you can research some astronautical idea and learn. I can research "gram-negative" and come to an understanding of it. Not an expert understanding, but sufficient to communicate.

You read what Jay says, then you can gain a fundamental understanding. It's the beauty of intelligence and open-mindedness that allows that.

The problem is...that fundamental inquiry...that intelligence is sometimes woefully absent, as we've seen!

It's like anything worthwhile, one has to put some effort into it. In a world of immediate gratification, some simply aren't willing to do this. I'm reminded of one fellow (a moon hoax advocate) who was advised to read Jay's site...he said it was "too much" and "too complicated"! Apparently, a position based on ignorance and fanciful speculation is just so much easier. Such a shame.

Unclear? What type of object in space moves like that? Unreferenced? That is the planet Earth, and we know the size of the planet Earth. A video taken by someone somewhere? Uh, yes, an Astronaut in space...........

Agreed, Lil....sadly.

I guess you didn't get the premise here.

There isn't anything to say where that object is in relation to the camera. It could be outside a window, or a particle inside of a spacecraft, between the camera lens and the window, or any variety of possible things. There's no scalar reference, the video is blown up and grainy, there is an unclear horizon or something apparently spherical in the frame, and several objects moving about in the field of view.

Maybe it's a video from a spacecraft...maybe a shuttle. However, it is completely unidentified, shows nothing but articfacts that have been seen on dozens of videos taken from space (dust particles, ice particles, etc....), and you can make out no detail whatsoever in the picture you're looking at.

To declare that this is clear evidence of an extraterrestrial craft is utter speculation. It is completely baseless, which is characteristic of the oftimes wishful thinking and constructs of those who wish to believe that NASA is covering up something...

No one intelligent can make any assumption whatsoever about what this clip is showing.

Also somewhat telling is that if this is a video taken from orbit, the cameraman, or woman doesn't seem to have been phased in the least by this alien apparition appearing in the viewfinder. The camera hardly moves at all when this thing appears. One would think that such an occurance would make the camera operator jerk a little, and zoom in on the object.

No such thing occurs of course, which would tend to imply that it was nothing unusual.

I can't find the forum for a b&w video of ufos moving about.

Taken from a satellite.

Hope to post here if I find it again.


This might be the thread.

I checked this one out.

Thanks for the links. I spent an afternoon at youtube looking at ufo videos.
I have dialup so need the quick ones. I'll post some stills if I have time.

I like that zig zap flight pattern. A one man spark-o-craaft, amazing to
get up so high. Who would do such a thing.

That round orbe is a classic Foo.. see sparks that ring the bottom. Amazing what a
flat coil on the floor and 2 or 3 spark gaps can do ain't it though. Well some 15vac
on a coil at a yet undetermined frequency.
WWII Germany was inventive or did they have pre war clues from Mr. Tesla.

Well thats my spin on that one, have fun ya'll.
Be back to put in stills.
From a youtube video, must be TT Brown (saucer craft using turbine or jet exhaust).
Must have a Caddy engine, see the dual exhaust.

^parts of that one were overhead and you see a ring of sparks. Those kids with garbage
cans are getting hi tech. Or did they do a cover story.
The next is from China and a perfect ball a lightning that gets a cloud to ground blast
twice. You gotta see it. Buy do I see wings on the disc of light.

Still a disc of lightning from a flat coil on the floor of a saucer craft getting zaped for
going out in bad weather.
China:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy_P-GH8T_M

Her is the bunch, my computer is too alow to verify video and still:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvo2AtaJWqE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEPDGzMSWsU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47ysQ7zMtcI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CewH99F0K0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0atxvZjyeA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy_P-GH8T_M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7jrmkeU78I

You know their hiding info. If they weren't they would unlock the vaults at area 51 and NASA's Case files on UFO's and make it available for public view. They know there's truth to it. That's why they dont want us to see. If aliens and ufo's didn't exist they would give the public concrete evidence to show that we have nothing to worry about. They would be able to to give logical explanations for every sighting that's ever happened and step by step how the government responded. But their not doing that, so that show's they are hiding stuff from us. Alot of stuff.

what if they dont have ufo evidence to speak of? there are many theories of what is in area 51 and if there was a few dead aliens being stored there, dont you think the alien collective would come and rescue them?

bada pow!!!
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...ndpost&p=470301

thats nice footage of meteorites lol if you freeze frame you can see that when entering earth's atmosphere. The ufo's toy with aircraft by coming in close but leaves the telescope alone? so bada pow is more like where's the ufo?

Coolio

Personally I think saying that something moving in outer space is an alien spacecraft is jumping the gun just a tad (not saying it ain't an alien spacecraft because it possibly could be), just the fact that NASA is removing these from the videos re-runs does make you question what they are.

That first video in youtube was INCREDIBLE. It was definitely a spacecraft of some kind. That was not a meteor or a satellite.
I think its so funny how the american gov't hides all these things from their own people and yet taps their phones (of course I'm not saying its always bad, the hidding stuff thing. sometimes is better that way. no one wants to create a mass hysteria.)